₦airaland Forum

Seun, you just showed how much of a fake athiest you are.

Every atheist believes in the freedom of humanity not bound buy laws which are repressive..

Good luck though, you will be remembered as one of the people fighting against free speech

slowpoke

hummerwise:
tell that to man united fans
van gaal ideology carry dem wea dem dey 2day
yeye

[size=14pt]" Its a Filursophee"[/size]

SEUN

if you join the protest agianst the bill to censor the Social; Media in Nigeria

then you are a fvcking hypocrite

[size=13pt]OP, when Boko Haram was killing Christians and Muslims said Nothing.. the damage was done....


" Boko haram is a result of Northern Elites"- Reverend Kukah[/size]

[size=14pt]His Nigga is wearing a Fake Man utd jersey

maybe if he found work, he could afford a real one [/size]

LadyExcellency:
Ekwueme was responsible for emergence of South-South Region during the 1994/95 constitutional conference

Former Vice President Atiku Abubakar at a function in 2012 wished he had supported the Ekwueme proposal on the restructuring of the country during the 1994/95 constitutional conference.

Atiku who now wants the country structured in such a way that it would strengthen the various geopolitical zones admitted that the present structure is impeding the country’s progress.

He said “I want to recall that during the 1994-95 Constitutional Conference, Dr. Alex Ekwueme, the Second Republic vice president of this federation, introduced and canvassed for the concept of geopolitical zones.

“I was among those who opposed it because I thought that Ekwueme, coming from the defunct Republic of Biafra, wanted to break up the country again.

“Now, I realise that I should have supported him because our current federal structure is clearly not working.

Dr. Ekwueme obviously saw what some of us, with our civil war mindset, could not see at the time. There is indeed too much concentration of power and resources at the centre.

“And it is stifling our march to true greatness as a nation



http://sunnewsonline.com/new/new-twist-in-clamour-for-polity-restructuring/


Chuba Okadigbo as senate President mobilized Umar N'Abba the Speaker of HOR to overturn President Obasanjo's veto.


Little boy stop discussing issues beyond your intelligence

Ekweme fought for everyone here, calling for total restructuring here..

I am talking about an Igbo man in the same light as ken sawo wiwa..

go on

Duru1:
If Gowon could not call for Ojukwu's arrest, it means he did not have legal or military authority over eastern region. One wonders what pedigree Gowon has to divide eastern region into state other than provocation.

Ojukwu was in charge of his own Army, had influence and shite..

Gowon could call for his arrest but who was going to arrest him?

Duru1:
This is typical issue with Nigerians when they try to reap where they did not sow. If you do not fight for the alleged referendum, what else support is needed from the so-called SS aftermath? Unfortunately, most Nigerians are still locked in 1967 but today is not yesteryears.

oh I did not mean we would join Biafra, I meant we would support your struggle to be independent for yourself.

Duru1:
Eastern region became a separate entity when the military governor of the region did not recognize the position of the coupists who killed the head of state. Gowon could not venture into eastern region or have ant authority over eastern region. If Gowon had such authorities, there should be no civil war. Gowon could simply call for Ojukwu's arrest. If eastern region was not a separate entity as the period in discussion, why did the federal government of Nigeria led by Gowon attend the Aburi peace conference?

No, Gowon could not simply call for Ojukwu's arrest.

the eastern government had to be recognized as a legal separate country by the Nigerian authorities, but it wasn't,

Duru1:
It only Nigerians that ignorantly think war when self-determination is mentioned. You once claimed to be educated but lack every symptom of learned person. Europeans have seen countries divide into two without a shot fired in anger. Is this candor elusive to Africans? Why must anybody think war because certain group of people simply want to depart from the imperialistic creation such as Nigeria? Again, clarity is the hallmark of well educated individuals. Could you please elaborated on the bolded so that Biafrans can know who are "us" in the above post?

he meant if you guys get a referendum, we in the SS would support you, if you go Ojukwu 2.0, its OYO for you

Duru1:
Bros I have no time with people who seemed apathetic to historical facts. Nuskka and Bony (Ubani) were in eastern region and you should ask yourself what Nigerian soldiers were doing in eastern region.

Nigerian Soldiers had all the Republic rights to be in eastern Nigeria...

Truckpusher:
I gave them a simple illustration here.
The number of their kinsmen that are flooding into PHC, Calabar , Uyo , Warri and Yenegoa is a clear sign that their states aren't faring better than the Niger Delta states compared to people from these states flooding into their own states though I love Enugu yeah! I love that city , this is where tourism is suppose to flourish.
People do not migrate for fun but because of hardship and in search of a better life but the chest beating chimps won't just listen.
These days I have refused to point out their flaws vigorously lest they should become smarter.
Most of them here that are making noise up and down has a lock-up shop in warri , PHC , Yenegoa and Uyo et al or they are related to someone that has a shop in these towns yet they call these people backward.
Who runs a shop business and even hawk in a town where there is no purchasing power?
Delusion of grandeur is disease my friend.

haha they will attack you for saying this ohh

LOL, its the truth, they are flocking the SS looking for opportunity they don't have in the South East, why? Cuz we have created a situation whereby our people can trade with anyone..

but they cal us ignorant

Duru1:
Per the bolded, this is homely applied to those who shout south-south today and forgot who fought for it. I had rather get to my house empty-stomached than filled up belly and die on the road.

which Igbo man fought for South South?

which igbo man played an essential role in this region having 6 states?

which Igbo man was crucial in the creation of NDDC?

Duru1:
For umpteenth times, Biafra did not declare war or wanted to go war with anybody. Biafrans were simply what is all about human instinct which self preservation. Eastern region cannot simply capitulated when the people of the region have been massacred and yet illegal government of Nigeria led by bunch of nonentities whose people have just committed atrocity against easterners divide their region into states. When the people said we preferred to remain with regional status, war was declared on them. It is very shameful that most Nigerians tend to stand history on its head.

YES, Biafra declared War,

Ojukwu was importing South African and French Mercenaries, and was also importing weapons from black market weapon dealers, its a sign of treason

Truckpusher:
Yeah , that's the ugly bitter truth.

"And ye shall hear the truth and the truth shall make you mad" - Aldous Huxley

Honestly it stupid when they call us " helpless", we have gotten a region, six states, derivation, a Ministry, a commision, and offshore royalties.

we did all this by using our heads and playing the patient game gradually, how is that stupidity? How? they need to see the truth OHH

Obiagu1:
Quote of the Year:
[i]
The reasons why Ijaws and other minorities in the South South are “content being Nigerians”
Ignorance and helplessness. That’s all. The minority tribes in Nigeria’s Niger Delta generate a bulk of the country’s revenue but they’re some of the poorest people you can ever find in Africa. Most Nigerians from the west and north barely even know they exist.

[/i]By a NigerDeltan.


Definitions:
Stupidity is when you ask for resource control for 50 years out of a 100 years your oil is supposed to last and you keep asking for the same thing when you are not succeeding.

Ignorance is when you don't know that you are jumping head first into a pit full of shit in 50 years time when your only bargaining power is exhausted and you have nothing to show for it.

Helplessness is when you are used and dumped and you have nothing to fall on to and no one cares if you still exist.

Stupidity is when you forget which country you come from and think you are in Europe where they just let you go like that, Stupidity is not realizing that the SS got derivation, NDDC and Ministry of Niger Delya

Ignorance is failure to realize the Importance of History and Patience and trying to run a Marathon like a Sprint ( i see you south east)

Helplessness is when the SS since the war has gotten a region, gotten more states, gotten derivation, gotten non oil dichotomy, given access to offshore bases, gotten a ministry, has had a president, while South east has gotten Nothing.

Duru1:
Even if you were weakling duck when your house is divided by a bully, you can, at least, quack. Gowon position was not recognized by the eastern region after the botched coup of July 29, 1966. Therefore, Gowon has no legal pedigree to mess with eastern region with his idiotic 12 states creation. You seem to misplace your facts due to junk education you received in Rivers State and Nigeria. I guess Biafra would have done a better job on this your issue of education or lack thereof.

Gowon was doing his JOB!!

he was Leader, and he had to fight no matter what, stop bringing Gowon in. Its Ojukwu who should have used more educated means and methods to lead the eastern region to greater heights not shouting War.

Gowon creating more states was Vital to Nigeria's survival, that what Truckpusher has been trying to say when he says " the SS has done the best with what they have", to work with the Northerners you need Brain and Patience, not war

Truckpusher:
Unfortunately the elites in the SS are hell bent on stealing from us too.
You see Nigeria is a difficult country - Don't be surprised if this war breaks out today , southerners would still be the ones supplying the Nigerian military weapons from abroad.
Henry Okah was supplying Niger Delta militants arms to destroy his homeland .

I guess Stealing is something we have to live with " FOR NOW", a SS Governor might steal, but if he leaves the education budget to invest in History, Social Sciences and the Integrated Sciences, we would have a Golden Generation..

Duru1:
Per the bolded, it is no longer in doubt how shallow you are intellectually. Do you mean that Ojukwu should build regional economic powerhouse on a region Gowon has already divided into states? The breakages of the regions into states were the pure declaration of war on eastern region of Nigeria by illegal Nigerian government led by Gowon.

Gowon was not even a major general before the War started, he was made a General doing the start of the war to give him more Power.

ojukwu should have been smarter, he could have found a way to emancipate his brothers with education, pushing war was too extreme

Truckpusher:
With Boko haram the North is at our mercy but as a peace loving people we will let them control the monster they created.

They invited Islamist fundamentalist to do their dirty job but after the job will this strange cleaner go just like that ? I doubt it and this is the beginning of their story of woes.

This is a result of lack of education, when you create an Extremist group, you keep them as far away as possible from you, the Americans did not make the Cartels strong enough to invade but they made taliban and al-qaeda overly military trained, but kept them half way across the world..

It was a rookie mistake that would happen in a world where History is not taught, thats why we in the SS MUST emphasize on Education, WORLD Class education

bloodyBLOGGER:
oga, where you take dey see all these your proverbs dem?

Yesterday, na the one of person wey dey drown for ocean but they worry about person wey no fit swim for him bath tub for house.

the guy na Pete Edochie of Nairaland..

Truckpusher:
They are already achieving that but all of a sudden they want to throw all that away for some ego induced mentality.
Control the economy from the North to the South and watch who would be crying secession at the end of the day. Let the North keep gallivanting on oil they don't have because by the time the oil is useless the place will be so chaotic that even the agriculture will become useless - Do they need a soothsayer to know that without a standing Nigerian army that Boko haram will take over the North in just one week?
The Northern oligarch are already losing it , what you're seeing now is akin to a drowning man - He'll clutch to anything including a serpent.

the Northern Oligarchs created Boko Haram, but now Boko Haram has gone rogue, I am loving it..

zimoni:
You've said it all Bro. We don enter the forced-marriage already, we need to apply wisdom. Development of our regions and making it attractive to investors should be our focus now not secession. Secession, to me, is a long thing. Going to war again will only destroy what we have worked hard to achieve for years.

Gradually, we shall get there. FG is encouraging investment in mining of solid minerals, it shall be easier to discuss regionalism or outright dissolution of Nigeria when every region becomes viable.

God Bless Us All.

Thank you, but lets not trust the North still, they will find a way to make their poor remian illiterates even if a major oil reserve is found in the North.. i don't trust Fulanis

Truckpusher:
Honestly, the autonomous nature of the Igbo man did not give him room for unnecessary patience and diplomacy . But one has to weigh his options carefully before taking a calculated risk which is what the Igbo man lacks in abundance but let's be fair here - There is a conspiracy to keep the igbo man down and this is bad and totally unacceptable .
Sometimes I understand their plight and frustration because how can a people so vibrant be held down by some crazed zombies that has total disregard for nationalism and self development but wanting to drag the Niger delta into their problems is a no no situation even as we find ourselves in the same boat. We are children of circumstances and it would be unfortunate to for us to take any calculated risk that will backfire. At least not now.
If I were Ojukwu I wouldn't go to war but I'll build a regional economic powerhouse because once you win the economic war then the military confrontation will become a walk in the park.
Why is North Korea not attacking South Korea on a full scale invasion ? Because the big boys interests are in the South.
Win the economic war and watch the North come to the negotiating table.

This is what i have been telling my Igbo Cousins, focus on economy, Money will buy the Politics and Influence. You have the Human resource, the entrepreneurial spirit, forget Biafra as a Seceded Nation but see it as an autonomous economic powerhouse, him to called me a " coward"

Truckpusher:
Edwin Clark's action didn't go down well with vibrant Ijaw youths that understood that the task ahead isn't something that would be accomplished by Ijaws alone.
Besides , the bulk of the people that engaged in the armed struggle were mostly ijaws while the Ogonis expelled shell from their land and the Ogbas choses to negotiate with the two oil majors for scholarships from primary to university education both national and international level , employment quota and infrastructural development and contracts as well as health facilities and youth sustainable programs which I'm a living beneficiary of almost all of them.
So, tell me why would a neighbor after seeing people like us benefiting from these things want to ask his child or ward to bear arms to get his right back or go about it violently ?
We are making progress, it is a slow one but we'll not go about it violently and if that's what makes us ignorant and lost so be it - Pick up arms and demand for your right , we are waiting for the outcome.

I will buy you Beer if I knew you personally..

keep giving them South East Brain food, they can't see the value in " slow and patience"

Duru1:
I guess you are too educated to fail for the political shenanigans born out of idiocy. For example the bolded in red, there is nothing such as "true or false federalism". The term "true federalism" is used by clueless and dishonest losers.

The term true federalism means a democracy were each individual state is in total control of it affaiars, and the executive power only enfore federal laws and taxation.

Its the stepping stone to Fiscal autonomy

Truckpusher:
At a point common sense will not push you far - An educated mind is a goldmine.

yeah, but a mind with common sense, can be a catalyst for Inception ( mental emancipation)...

I support you though, thats why the first push should be proper federalism, where education's budget per state is the highest, then we move on to proper fiscal autonomy..

Truckpusher:
Great points my friend .
But think again what do you will happen if the old regional structure is restored under a democratic govt.
You'll see the emergence of fearless and eloquent and violent outspoken personalities like Nnamdi Kanu and Asari Dokubo which will lead to the benching of the old order in the South which do not have a strong control over their own people like the North and if these guys are pan Africanist in nature it will rubbish the old order which will send out a strong message to their counterpart in the North and with the shades of Islam they are so done.
This is the last thing the house master wants to see it happen.
Have you bothered to ask yourself why Northern elites aren't bothered about the level of illiteracy in the North while their Southern counterpart aren't bothered about the poverty rate and ignorance in the South? The logic simple;keep them hungry and uneducated and watch them scramble to survive. But feed them and give them education and watch them ask hard questions.
Nigeria needs education but we are too polarized on region, religion and ethnicity that it will take the intervention of the gods to free us from ourselves.

I don't think you even Need education to be a pan- Africanist, all you need is common sense..


common sense is cheaper than education

Truckpusher:
You're perfectly right , but the Hausas too are victims just like the Kanuris and other conquered people in the North - The main culprit here is the invader from Futa jallon( Fualnis ) whose nomadic lifestyle won't let them settle in a place hence they are scattered all over West Africa spreading chaos and mayhem as they march on , Islam was only a place of succor.
Ghadafi came at the wrong time - African leaders were not ready to protect their own and even Nigeria that would have protected him was in the hands of the West under the arrangement of the West . In fact if Jonathan had made any move to help Ghadafi don't be surprised how he would have been thrown out of office disgraced and even jailed.
These people knew what they are doing and the feudal North under the stranglehold of the Fulanis is always at their service and if you doubt me ask Mohammed Murtala who paid with his life or Ojukwu whom they saw as a threat to their stranglehold on Nigeria, the moment he made a run for it they activated their boys. Yet in this 21st century poor student of history wants to repeat it again.
What do you think when you see the FG after independence have always made policies that will keep the south economically attached to whatever they are churning out from their factories in the West ?

History needs to be taught in all SS and SE schools, so that our future generation should know who their enemies are. Simple.

Gaddafi waited too long to put up a change, he was pan African in Africa but a socialist in libya, the West hated that, as for the Fulanis, they are creating enemies in their own North for themselves, their time is coming, and they know it..

Truckpusher:
If anyone from the SS and SE thinks that the Anglo-American empire will support any liberal and capitalist leaning black man from this gulf of Guinea should visit a psychiatrist.
The west will prefer to help the feudal North against the liberal South and this was proven in 1967 even as they were Christians and Catholic.
I've seen the West for who they are and I'll not even entrust them with my emancipation at any point - The west do not help any country that run with the same ideology with them especially countries they've exploited before colonization.
As a young boy I had the same mentality but I can tell you that these guys in number 10 Downing Street and Washignton will never help you achieve emancipation from the their appointed guardian of the black gold which is in your backyard - Forget all the shouts of "death to America" their elites are in bed with the west.
Those that do not understand and know the importance of historical events will only continue to rely on the same people that put them where they are.
It might interest you to know that a bulk of the black soldiers that helped the British to subdue the great Benin empire during the punitive expedition were of Hausa/Fulani extraction.

The bolded does not surprise me, the West needs loyal fools who back against Nationalism, thats why the Hausa's are their West African "accomplices", thats why they killed Gaddafi, because Gaddafi was a proper pan-Africanist who saw the light in African Nationalism not Globalization..

the West won't support SS or SE Nationalism, but we SS should keep on doing what we have done and work on our progress, the North would be stupid to notice a change..

Truckpusher:
What would you have us do ? Pick up arms against the govt. for some folks to use it and enrich themselves like Asari and co ? Thereby bringing criminality into our doorstep - The kidnapping that has engulfed this nation today was as a result of the same struggle that have been hijacked by criminal elements and till this very moment someone is being kidnapped, raped and murdered all thanks to the so called Niger Delta militants which I prefer to call criminal enterprises that enriched their pockets using the Niger Delta as an umbrella to perpetrate all manners of evil.

We won't destroy whatever progress we've made so far all in the name of wanting more.
Wisdom demands that you ask for more with more compelling evidence while holding unto whatever we've achieved , it will surely take time but this is the only way as any other way would be counterproductive and that isn't to say we are happy but creating an atmosphere of chaos won't pay us any good. Do you know how many companies that left the Niger Delta since 2005 and haven't even come back, do you know how expatriates that left this land because of the mayhem caused by armed struggle ? Do you know how many people that have been made jobless today as a result of the criminality that followed the Niger Delta struggle ? Do you know how many young men and women that died as a result of avoidable chaos and mayhem ? Don't worry , start the madness in your land and you'll understand that armed conflict is a lose-lose situation for everyone even when you're fighting for your right.

Stupidity is when you start a senseless chaos in your own house destroying your house all in the name of wanting to build another one.
This method might take time but it's the best way out.

Thank you for liberating their minds, we have made progress, and this is what we can do best, but they act like we have United States backing the SS against Nigeria

The people fighting corruption and also corrupt

LOL