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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:33am On Jun 05, 2020
Kazikazi:
Don't compare Dar with Accra.Dar is in the league of Jo'burg.
Kid lay off them drugs
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:29am On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
uhm no!!
I thought you were bringing some elaborate report or say you've visited this places but instead you are choosing mercer that ranks cities based on livability are you okay? the same mercer that has said kigali is the most livable city in Africa twice in a row, by your logic we should conclude it to be the most developed city in Africa right..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:25am On Jun 05, 2020
popizaino:
By implying dar is bigger than Accra then it should be competing with Lagos in urbanization which I seriously doubt, but anyway I will take your words for it.
Dar seems bigger by urbanization than Accra but to compare dar with Lagos I would be lying lagos is bigger than Nairobi even more people more buildings.
Basically by landmass it's very difficult to tell. by development I would put

Lagos and Nairobi in the same class
Dar, Addis and Abidjan in the same class
Accra, Lusaka, Harare and Luanda in the same class
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 8:19am On Jun 05, 2020
popizaino:
I will not argue with you since you’ve been to both Accra and dar e salam, but I need to ask you if really think dar is bigger than Accra considering tema is also part of Accra.
to be honest I can't tell.. Dar seems bigger and way busier than Accra. Accra gives small city vibes where people take things slow. Dar generally seems more developed, better hotels cleaner beaches both cities have very good food and are relatively safe even to walk at night.
so
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 8:13am On Jun 05, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Let's start from railway and brt. Lemme disgrace you here grin grin
Dude cherry picking doesn't make a city great. I mean Abuja has better transport network than nearly all African cities doesn't mean it's better. I have nothing to gain or lose by saying this I've had the privilege of visiting many African countries and I have appreciation for each one of them..Accra floors Nairobi my home city in food, culture, safety I can state it here this are facts.
However which is.more developed? Nairobi of course.
same with Abuja as I said all the cities I mentioned are more developed than Abuja where Abuja floors them is on roads and urban planning period.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 7:50am On Jun 05, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Dude it's fact? Nairobi development is all about skyscraper. And they even look ugly. What can Nairobi beat Abuja on this list below.

Stable electricity
Stable water
Good road network
Clean street/ clean environment
House planning
City planning.
Health system
Railway
Brt etc.
Nairobi, Dar, Accra, Abidjan, Lagos, Dakar, Addis,
all southern African capitals excluding Malawi floor Abuja in all aspects you've listed except roads and city planning.
you might also want to add the social aspect and safety in cities as criteria for competition.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 7:45am On Jun 05, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
I have even watch their videos just now on YouTube. None of them you listed are ahead of Abuja. None
Abuja is ahead of Windhoek and Pretoria??
hahaha okay like someone said you'd make a very good comedian.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 7:41am On Jun 05, 2020
rvp2018:
Yes but so does Kigali and the likes of Windhoek, Gaberone. I'd put those in 3rd tier - because they are smaller cities - with about 1m or less people. Accra would be in the 2nd tier with Kampalas, Lusakas, and many such cities. The 3rd tier would like led by likes of Windhoek, Gaberone, Kigali, etc.
Kigali like Abuja social life is non existent. It would be unfair to list this cities with Accra in the same breath.
Think of Accra as a smaller Dar or a bigger Mombasa, with better social and nightlife than both
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 7:36am On Jun 05, 2020
Abohboy:
Port Louis, Windhoek, Gaborone and Pretoria are definitely ahead of Abuja, trust me but Lusaka I don’t believe that one
Windhoek, Pretoria and port Louis yes Gaborone No.
Lusaka is arguable remember a city is not only about roads and being planned if we go by that Windhoek and Kigali would lead. If I happen to live in Nigeria I'd definitely be in Lagos despite it being chaotic and unplanned unlike Abuja.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 7:34am On Jun 05, 2020
rvp2018:
Yes but so does Kigali and the likes of Windhoek, Gaberone. I'd put those in 3rd tier - because they are smaller cities - with about 1m or less people. Accra would be in the 2nd tier with Kampalas, Lusakas, and many such cities. The 3rd tier would like led by likes of Windhoek, Gaberone, Kigali, etc.
Fair enough.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 6:55am On Jun 05, 2020
rvp2018:
Accra belongs to the 2nd or even 3rd tier of Africa cities - Mombasa, Abuja, Lusaka, that kind.
Yes that's true but it would top that list.
However Accra has some aspects that are better than most cities I'm talking about social and safety this are very important in city rankings.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 6:53am On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:
This is just funny cos I am not the one saying it but WTTC(world travel and tourism council) .Not until three years ago Kenya has always been placed above us by thesame reputable, globally recognised organisation..Kenya's tourism industry has been declining tremendously pre-covid19...
I am guessing you do not know that they are various kinds of tourism..e.g business tourism,sport tourism,Health tourism,leisure tourism, Entertainment tourism,Eco tourism...Nigeria thrives very well in sport, entertainment, business tourism, cultural tourism than Kenya does..if you are talking leisure tourism yes I know they are undeniably ahead of us...but when you summarised the whole thing up and check out the total generated revenue then kenya becomes a child's play..
I am guessing you don't know the amount of shows alone in Lagos that pulls visitors from all corners of the earth..
Do you know how many movie awards shows,fashion shows,music shows,music awards show,fashion awards show,lagos carnival,Lagos boat regatta, that pull visitors annually...
Let's not even get to December which is the craziest..you would literally see Lagos govt sponsoring shows for the youths that fetches them visitor....example would the One Africa fest...do you know it is sponsored by Lagos govt..and do you know how many Africans visit Lagos just for that show anually...heck what of those music concert that spring up around that time..Don't you know they all have the backing of the govt..
And then you come to the grandest of all which is Calabar festival which brings competitors all over the world and have them compete for a full month...

What of cultural festival like those ones they do in osun(vaxx should know more about this one. I am not too familiar with the name)...

Below was a Kenyan news quoting WTTC..they said this not me and even if you doubt just go to WTTC website to confirm what that Kenyan newspaper said...
You do realize that Nigeria has Africa's largest diaspora? some are even.second and third generation in their countries of birth. This is what has contributed to Nigerian tourism. When you land at Murtala you can be sure 80% of the people will be Nigerians or descendants of Nigerians. This is a huge advantage to you. Plus also the remittance they bring is crazy amounts. But when it comes to hospitality in General? Nigeria is at the bottom of the barrel even in west Africa.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 6:42am On Jun 05, 2020
Just30:
now you are ranting

cheesy grin grin

You can't mention one area of Development that Nairobi will outpace Accra but throw words around.

Those are baby argument
Its is babies who argue ' he stole my thing she stole my thing ' without mentioning the thing in question.

That is how you argue.
Anybody who doesn't agree with you is "ranting" fyi all this cities in Africa are ahead of Accra.

Addis Ababa
Abidjan
Lagos
Dar es salaam
Nairobi
Luanda
and all southern African countries capitals excluding Malawi.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 6:37am On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:
Kevomtaani has been jiln5 all this while.. grin
I am 100% African bro been on nairaland since 2013. kiss
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 6:36am On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
If we did an actual list, and not listened to blogs, it would look like this(in no particular order)

Johannesburg
Cape Town
Durban
Pretoria
Gaborone
Windhoek
Casablanca
Port Louis
Rabat
Lusaka
I would remove Pretoria, Gaborone, Windhoek, port Louis and lusaka.
I would add Nairobi, Dar, Luanda,Addis and Abidjan.
Kigali would get an honorable mention.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 6:33am On Jun 05, 2020
popizaino:
You live in a glass house yet you throw stones anyhow. Nairobi with slum is still miles ahead of Accra.You should be ashamed your eldorado Accra host the world’s largest digital dump site amid other multiple slums.
grin grin grin it's called keeping your country man in check.
it's like he gets his high by being cheered on by Nigerians
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:02pm On Jun 04, 2020
Just30:
all cities have slums

Except in most cities, the slum is not what define their city.

But for Nairobi, the definition of that city is slum
Cool story bro cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:47pm On Jun 04, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
You mean this Enugu
Seriously you are quoting Enugu in a forum where discussions are around Accra, Dar es salaam, Nairobi, Lagos and joburg? I give up with you.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:44pm On Jun 04, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Abuja has 24/7 electricity. Steady water supply and even skyscrapers too.
Water and Electricity steady in Abuja? seems I know the city more than you..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:42pm On Jun 04, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Abuja
See that's all you can show about Abuja is roads. Nobody is denying that. it is indeed a planned city. but just move your camera towards lugbe, kuje or dugbe for an honest review.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:24pm On Jun 04, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
When last did you visit Abuja. And where and where in Abuja have you go to. You're very stupid for comparing Abuja with other west Africa cities in terms of development.
I visited Abuja a few years back..but doesn't matter I have in laws there now. Abuja is well planned and has good roads inside the city. That's it.

Nothing and I mean nothing will make someone relocate from Dakar, Accra, Lagos or Abidjan to go and live in Abuja
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:21pm On Jun 04, 2020
vankelvin:
Don't waste your time on some of these Nigerian's,
They mistake ''City planning'' for development..
What Abuja has is proper planning, in any case, how big is Abuja City proper,? not the land size?
In this 21st Century, you just pick any information on the internet to buttress your point, like how?
Go on Youtube where some Nigerian bloggers claiming Abuja is the 2nd Most developed and beautiful Citiy in Africa?
Only in SA, Johannesburg, Cape-Town, Durban, Pretoria, which of these Cities can you compare Abuja to?
Talk-less the number of cities in North Africa, Luanda, Nairobi, Dar Es Sallam, Addis Ababa,?

So I'm always not surprised when they claim Abuja is developed than Lagos, Dakar, Abidjan and Accra.
Its not surprising at all.
I know, funniest thing is most people even don't live inside Abuja. Most people live outside the city limits which is unplanned..but trust me wayyyy livelier than the city itself
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:18pm On Jun 04, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Enugu
Enugu is not a city worth putting up in this forum you and I both know this. let's leave it there.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:15pm On Jun 04, 2020
popizaino:
You are just one incorrigible liar.

Mere looking at the pictures exposes you once more.just shut up for once so we could think you are well informed than to keep talking and erase all doubt .
You know I like you, I find you exactly like me. you call out b.s even from fellow country men just like me. doesn't mean you don't like your country just means you have appreciation of facts and truths
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:12pm On Jun 04, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
You clearly don't know Abuja. So no need of arguing with you. Travel to Abuja and see for yourself.
Haahahahah I don't know Abuja right....
Abuja is so boring that you will find half the city on jabi lake and silverbird on Saturdays. On Sunday morning and Friday afternoon to night the whole city is dead Abuja has nice roads and that's about it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:08pm On Jun 04, 2020
samorobo:
Forget it, there is no stadium worthwhile in Kenya...it's all a crappy dilapidated mess..
This is true. Kenya has failed miserably in Sports facilities. The amount of corruption in Sports despite Kenya's success is astounding
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 9:04pm On Jun 04, 2020
samorobo:
Lol you are following report from Kenya corrupt govt...
You should use globally recognised, reputable source like world,tourism and travel council (WTTC)..
KENYA is behind Nigeria and Ghana in tourism...
It is common sense that a country that has had tourism before independence and a country that has been more stable and has a national airline will obviously achieve success in Tourism. Kenya, Tanzania and Zimbabwe and now the new boys Rwanda are ahead of all west African cities and countries when it comes to tourism. Er don't have to chest beat about this or use emotions this are just facts. I do however acknowledge Ghana's effort in tourism marketing they have made significant strides but saying Ghana receives more visitors than the countries listed above? even you know this is a lie
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 8:57pm On Jun 04, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Don't mind the Otondo.
Hmm you are referencing a blog as your support document? let me put it this way when it comes to city planning and proper roads within city limits Abuja is ahead of almost all Cities in west Africa except Abidjan.

When it comes to economic activity, electricity, water supply, buildings..Accra, Abidjan, Dakar and Lagos beat abuja by 10, 000 miles
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 3:45pm On Jun 04, 2020
Just30:
This is Ghana tourism Minister speak with figures from the Bank of Ghana and you are talking about forbes.
It was wrongly reported in January or so that Ghana earned 1.9 or so billion and forbes picked it up.

Real figures came out 7 days ago.
https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Year-of-Return-fetches-Ghana-US-3-3bn-964762

Like i said, you Kenyans just love to make noise

funny

grin grin grin grin
Let me get this straight..you really believe Ghana earns more money in tourism than Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Kenya and Rwanda? just be honest this are countries that have modeled their economies around tourism facilities that's why all this countries have more bed capacities than any other country in SSA excluding S.a. you want to tell me Ghana through one year of Marketing has exceeded all this countries decades of Marketing? I think after Jesus changing water to wine your tourism figures is the second most amazing miracle.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 3:21pm On Jun 04, 2020
Austine1212:
Any proof of that claim?
Please check ATTA. African travel and tourism association it has listed all African countries in tourist numbers
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 3:17pm On Jun 04, 2020
Torture2020:
Just shut up! Some Africans are just too fvcking stvpid for my liking. And. Am not kidding.

There are big challenges facing Africa, instead for Africans to discuss how to find solutions that face them collectively, they are here talking nonsense. Talking crap while the majority of their people wallow in hunger, poverty etc. some fools think posting beautiful buildings on nairaland is the solution to all their national problems. Very stvpid and senseless ediots

If you would just ease up the anger and the cursing maybe just maybe people can listen to what you have to say.
Competition has always been there in existence since time immemorial even if this thread ends there will always be Ghana vs Nigeria, Tanzania vs Kenya, S.a vs Nam. it's just human nature. No need for it to be personal.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 3:12pm On Jun 04, 2020
Just30:
https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Year-of-Return-fetches-Ghana-US-3-3bn-964762

Now you can educate yourself

Tourist come to Ghana and spend more than Kenyan tourist spend
www.forbes.com
How To Spark A Global Movement: Ghana's 'Year Of Return' Welcomes 1M Visitors

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