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all4naija: Please, provide a better source.

You are in denial.

all4naija: Why don't you remain neck for once and answer the question while waiting for the throat to answer its own?

Lol! @ ask the neck

HIV is not a laughing matter all4whitepeople!

http://www.360nobs.com/2013/06/nigeria-now-has-second-highest-hivaids-population-in-the-world-naca/


Nigeria Now Has Second Highest HIV/AIDS Population In The World – NACA
The National Agency for the Control of AIDS, NACA, on Tuesday disclosed that 3.4 million Nigerians were living with HIV/AIDS, the second largest globally.

The agency’s Director-General, Prof. John Idoko, stated this at a Senate public hearing on a bill to prohibit discrimination against persons living with HIV/AIDS. Idoko noted that while the national prevalence stabilised at about four per cent, 13 states still carry higher burden.

He said that the country was behind target in several important indicators, affirmed that one of every three people in need was currently receiving treatment. Idoko, who said only 18 per cent of HIV positive women receive prophylaxis against mother-child transmission, noted that more than 40 per cent of HIV positive persons do not know their status.

Senate President, David Mark, who declared the hearing open, called for an end to stigmatisation and discrimination against persons living with HIV. Represented by the Deputy Senate Leader, Senator Abdul Ningi, Mark said the citizens should be educated more about HIV. He said, “It is important for all to be educated to know that HIV is just like any other disease. Once identified, all a sufferer needs to do is to access treatment and maintain a healthy lifestyle. “Infected people are hiding under common diseases like diabetes because of discrimination.

They will not tell you that they are HIV positive for fear of being discriminated against in their workplaces. “That somebody is infected does not mean he is not good or morally upright person or that he should be denied employment or barred from his social networks. “HIV is a disease that can be contracted both intentionally and accidentally.”

The Chairman, Senate Committee on Health, Senator Ifeanyi Okowa, noted that the HIV pandemic poses a big challenge to health and development across the world. He said, “In the countries that are worst affected, including Nigeria, the impact of HIV/AIDS have eroded decades of developmental goals and gains, stultifying economies and destabilising societies.

“There is no doubt that HIV is expected to continue to be a leading cause of mortality and morbidity in many countries and population, including Nigeria. “We must begin to be proactive in the implementation of action plans that are workable and friendly, and advocacy must be carried out at all levels of the society. “HIV poses a serious obstacle to the attainment of decent work and sustainable development and its effects are concentrated among the most productive age group.

“HIV problem has been made worse by the violation of their fundamental rights at the work place, schools, communities and the larger society on the basis of real or perceived status, particularly, through discrimination directed at persons living with HIV and AIDS.”

- HealthButton

all4naija: You have no argument here. I think you say we don't have roads to drive good cars and don't have airports at all.

South Africa is gradually dying away for Nigeria to rise! All hail Nigeria, the GIANT of Africa!

Don't go around saying things u clearly know nothing about.

And since ur such an all4whitepeople thing that u r,u clearly are not aware that Aids kills and not HIV. I don't blame you though. The HIV Stigma is the worst in ur country.

Thanks for unblocking me u discriminatory biatch. U just blocked me cause of ur boyfriend all4whitepeople

[quote author=1,2]This slowpoke was probably denied a VISA to SA. He should be worried more about that Shiithole country. Nigeria to SA is just like Mozambique or Tanzania, got nothing to Offer.[/quote]Someone please tell all4whitepeople to get over it and let go and move on with his life instead of repeating himself over and over again. Surely he has a life outside NL. :-/

[quote author=1,2]This slowpoke was probably denied a VISA to SA. He should be worried more about that Shiithole country. Nigeria to SA is just like Mozambique or Tanzania, got nothing to Offer.[/quote]Someone please tell all4whitepeople to get over it and let go and move on with his life instead of repeating himself over and over again. Surely he has a life outside NL.

all4naija: No xenophobia, no animosity for white people and attacks on foreigners on the streets and just to mentioned but a few. Religion infiltration can not be labeled as crime though. So leave Boko Haram out of it. UNODC states clear there is more crime in your society than Nigerian's.

Guys I think all4whitepeople was klapped in yeoville once and he can't get over it.

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]And Nigeria will be behind because of its blacks. In the end, no one cares what the reason is for SA's success. It's a success story. No need to worry about it.

What matters is the reason for Nigeria's failure.[/quote]. Continuous failure is more like it.

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]They're too used to their nations failing and they have no success around them. No wonder the skin bleaching.[/quote]I think the noise of the generator has destroyed this mans thinking! -all4whitepeople


[quote author=Coma_Berenices]The only thing that's over-exxagerated is Nigeria's place at the table of normal people. How can you speak to normal people when you have no electricity?[/quote]Last time he said they have generators and power is power regardless of the source! Buaha!ha!ha! all4whitepeople is very funny . I'm sure as you type the generator is making so much noise that's y u end up repeating ur self over and over again like a 3 disc nollywood movie.
all4whitepeople

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]They're too used to their nations failing and they have no success around them. No wonder the skin bleaching.[/quote]I think the noise of the generator has destroyed this mans thinking!

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]The only thing that's over-exxagerated is Nigeria's place at the table of normal people. How can you speak to normal people when you have no electricity?[/quote]Last time he said they have generators annd power is ppower regardless of the source! Buaha!ha!ha! all4whitepeople is very funnny

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]You'll have to do better than that.

You'll have to list the malls that you had before South Africa came to Nigeria. The supermarkets you had. And then you might earn the right to open your mouth.[/quote]One zambian friend of mine told me shoprite is such a big deal there! Some even snap pics infront of shoprite.

Can you imagine!

zetdee: MTN A BLACK RUN CAMPANY IS THE ONLY AFRICAN CAMPANY ON TOP 100 MOST VALUABLE BRANDS IN WORLD. its number 79.

www.bdlive.co.za/business/technology/2013/05/22/mtn-cracks-top-100-in-most-valuable-brands-survey

On one of his mindless rants, all4naija said some really nasty things about MTN. DON'T HATE APPRECIATE. he he he

Perhaps you need to write appreciate in his native language,he currently does not comprandehend the term. all4whitepeople

zetdee: MTN A BLACK RUN CAMPANY IS THE ONLY AFRICAN CAMPANY ON TOP 100 MOST VALUABLE BRANDS IN WORLD. its number 79.

www.bdlive.co.za/business/technology/2013/05/22/mtn-cracks-top-100-in-most-valuable-brands-survey

On one of his mindless rants, all4naija said some really nasty things about MTN. DON'T HATE APPRECIATE. he he he

Perhaps you need to write appreciate in his native language,he currently does not comprando the term. all4whitepeople

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]There's only one point here. You self-hatred because you come from a losing nation. That's all.[/quote]...Or family

all4naija: The argument is about SA. The whites are responsible for the development of that country,PERIOD!

You can cry baby!

They're responsible for the development in YOUR OWN PERIOD!all4whitepeople

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]Well, there's nothing new in his outbursts of frustration. He's been around black failure so long in Nigeria. That's all he's come to know. Guess the idea of any other nation doing better turns his world upside down.[/quote]So we must emphathise with all4whitepeople then hey..

[quote author=Proud.SAfrican]Oh this guy all4naija should be all4whitepeople coz he thinks if black people were left to their own devices we wouldn't progress. Its sad really.[/quote]Lol! @ all4whitepeople

zetdee: He claims to have a white mother, so don't be surprise by his views, alot off Nigerians are obsessed with white people, but he takes it to a new level.

True story, they are shame. Its shocking. I'm sure he dreams of being white in his sleep. How sad!

zetdee: If you follow the guy's posts on other threads, you'll know not to take much of what he says seriously, he exposed himself as a troll long ago.

Hey this troll has energy yeeerRreee!!!!

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]Why should anyone listen to you? Speaking like a scorned woman. Coming out here from a dark land. No electricity. All slummed up. All cut up with divisions to the point of spilling blood. Get real, will you?

Now because of some small spark you found along the way you think you've seen the light? Tryna work it out. Tryna get brolic on the Internet.

Darknoss from Lagos.

Who said you could open your mouth and speak to normal people? The envy sickness has consumed you to the point of losing all sense of shame. I've been to South Africa. I've been to Nigeria. You shouldn't be speaking.

King Chaka airport was built from the ground and sealed up right in front of my eyes while I was in South Africa. Long after apartheid. Now it ranks higher than US airports. Second best in the whole continent, after Capetown and before Johannesburg, all of which were upgraded while I was in South Africa. I was in South Africa when the Gauteng train line was built. I personally worked with some of the roads upgrade teams that did the work on the interstate highways of Johannesburg. No point listing everything here. Instead of appreciatin, you're busy spitting venom and hatin.

What kind of African are you? A jealous brother. Else don't speak because those of us who've seen South Africans work know better. Have you even flown out of Nigeria? Spending your time speaking ill against a country thousands of miles away from you. A country you've clearly never been to. How many hateful words are gonna come out your ignorant, loud mouth? Whites, blacks, what did the South African people ever do to you? It's their goddarn country and their business. Mind your own. Every second spent up in other people's business is time away from your own business. And God knows your business needs attention.

Someone tell me this person isn't for real.

And I'm not your mister.[/quote]He's not for real, he's just here to keep the thread active and to entertain us.

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]This is pure continental jealousy and wilful ignorance from my father's people. The Nigerians.

Talking about airports, I was actually in South Africa for the opening of the King Chaka airport. I went up the control room and spoke to the politicians. I was truly inspired.

I just checked now and am excited to see the airport is ranked second best in Africa. The best is Cape Town. And 3rd best is Johannesburg.

These top 3 airports rank higher than any of my airports in the US. Even I can't hate on that.

http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/africas-top-three-airports-rank-higher-than-any-airports-in-the-usa/26124/

Take a bow South Africa.

This is disgusting small-man mentality from Nigeria. I wouldn't worry about this. This is classic Nigeria doing outside what they do well at home. Hatin'.[/quote]I bet he's a yahoo boy. Think about it.

zetdee: I don't think any of your points have any meaning. The point is without black South Africans providing the cheap labor, the country would not be developed to the extent it is today. The present of black people doing the dirty work, allowed white people to pursuit other activities which they wouldn't have had time to do if they didn't have blacks. The South African white population is the size of Norway, but SA ranks higher than Norway in terms of infrastructure and development. While other African countries were fighting civil wars, black South Africans were working in mines, farms and manufacturing under very difficult conditions to make their country wealthy, saying they didn't contribute to where the country is today is ludicrous. You were boasting on the other thread about eko Atlantic to a Ghanain, but got irritated and played the race card when a south african was showing pictures of development in Durban which has happened within the last 5 years. Below are projects by Chinese companies, that will also be using Chinese labor to build them, remind Nigerians not to brag about them when their finished.

www.thisdaylive.com/articles/chinese-firm-to-build-four-airport-terminals-in-nigeria/141882/

. His points never have meaning. He just takes up writing space.

all4naija: First and foremost, I know you didn't read the thread with an open mind and that is a bit disturbing to know while looking at the argument from the title perspective. It is clear nobody really wants to put any country down based on the history it has behind it not until some South Africans who would want to pride themselves around thinking they are better than others want to be worshiped. We have seen these types of people coming around to brag about their development and using barbaric terms for us who aren't South Africans. Many of their defenses as views are centered around what we know becomes of the present generation of the people who once suffered in the hand of their own people(the white masters). Mind you, we are just stating things the way they are and it is palpable most of you don't like things to be addressed from a factual angle. That is the basic reason that leads the thread to what soon becomes part of the racial discussions leading to many discourses here.

On the side of history you are trying to bring into this matter to hide reality on ground points out you have not been able to view the matter from a wider perspective that requires of you some elements of truth and research. That is, you haven't really look into the reasons why the white people of that society choose to remain there. Those reasons I would try my best possible to spell out to you in the light of truth.

In the past, almost all African nations colonized with best controllable rudimentary. If I am fully right, Ethiopia is the only country that is not in that aspect of African past experience. The colonial era makes some huge impacts on African society and development which can be seen in the remaining architectural buildings that littered many countries around the continent, arts found in the museums, those places of worship in many cities and villages and just to mention but a few. They bring with them some sanity into African barbaric practices like sacrifices to idols, they bring modern education,they bring civil society and many others which are the backbones of what many African society is based on today. Indeed, no African nation can boastfully say his or her country doesn't have one or more of these aspect of live.

After the colonial era many African nations got independence(mostly in the 1960s) that sees the white masters and their families returning back to their various countries. It is correct to know only South Africa remains to be accepted to be home to many who refused to go back to Europe due to the reason they have made that place their home by developing it to their own taste that is never replicated elsewhere around Africa. That gives us an insight into what becomes the struggle for freedom in post-colonial South Africa that the world can't address immediately. The reasons why such development is not replicated in other countries in Africa is that they(colonial masters)never intended to called those places home because no huge resources discovered as at then, many have no compelling climate and large economies to work with as they are often used to. South Africa is the only country that yield much(in gold,diamond,etc as at then) and the whites decided to develop it for themselves, which becomes a focal point to fight for the next African freedom taking so many lives with it in the modern time to fight. Arguably, what to be fought for by others who know what to be subjected to imperialism means. Before the 1994 freedom is granted the nation experiences routinely internal disturbances which are far worse than what we are seeing today coming from Boko Haram in Nigeria. It usurps the peace in that nation and many black South Africans turn to crimes for their grievances. That soon makes that country becomes the most crimes ridden nation in the world as of today, which, they are now blaming on Nigerians living in that country.

Having said the aforementioned reasons, South Africans blacks come around to brag of their development in this thread all rather this forum how developed their country is and the reason why others most worship them requires no long reasoning before to tell them who are actually behind what they are boasting of without their own good inputs. It is absolutely clear we are trying to let them know the reasons why their nation is developed than others in Africa. That generally leads to what soon become the argument that brings in diverse views with so many discourses we are seeing now.

As we progress through these reasons it is right South African blacks don't want to stop beating their chests about how developed their country is while they are still living in the squalor of Townships in most developed nation of Africa as their forefathers land. It is a shame the indigenous people of South Africa coming here with aura of puffiness to tells us how much they are better than and claiming it to be for their hard-working nature and the educated society. Those we know are questionable evidences when fully scrutinized to the least details. The least can even be demanding as the blacks of that society are not educated while they claim most of the advancement in that society comes from them.

I would advise you to take a glimpse of the previous posts in this thread to have a better understanding of the idea on what the topic is all about and the reason the argument turns into what we it is now. Only for many to come here blaming me for stating facts as they are. Another thing is that many South Africans tend to remove the whites from the picture of the development of that country and give excuses on how they left the present government with huge deficits. That alone speaks lot about their stand on the argument and why they are not ready to say the truth.

You would agree with me here that South African development is nothing of the blacks of that society effort inputs but of the mechanism that has been put in place what their white masters of the past who are willing to stay and make that country their home. Therefore they develop it to their own taste and bring about what we know of South Africa of today. And, that must be mentioned and commended.

Thank you.

This post is is like a nollywood movie, dragging on and on to part 4 instead of getting to the point. Half the time its not making sense. Gosh! The element of drama must be in the water.

all4naija: First and foremost, I know you didn't read the thread with an open mind and that is a bit disturbing to know while looking at the argument from the title perspective. It is clear nobody really wants to put any country down based on the history it has behind it not until some South Africans who would want to pride themselves around thinking they are better than others want to be worshiped. We have seen these types of people coming around to brag about their development and using barbaric terms for us who aren't South Africans. Many of their defenses as views are centered around what we know becomes of the present generation of the people who once suffered in the hand of their own people(the white masters). Mind you, we are just stating things the way they are and it is palpable most of you don't like things to be addressed from a factual angle. That is the basic reason that leads the thread to what soon becomes part of the racial discussions leading to many discourses here.

On the side of history you are trying to bring into this matter to hide reality on ground points out you have not been able to view the matter from a wider perspective that requires of you some elements of truth and research. That is, you haven't really look into the reasons why the white people of that society choose to remain there. Those reasons I would try my best possible to spell out to you in the light of truth.

In the past, almost all African nations colonized with best controllable rudimentary. If I am fully right, Ethiopia is the only country that is not in that aspect of African past experience. The colonial era makes some huge impacts on African society and development which can be seen in the remaining architectural buildings that littered many countries around the continent, arts found in the museums, those places of worship in many cities and villages and just to mention but a few. They bring with them some sanity into African barbaric practices like sacrifices to idols, they bring modern education,they bring civil society and many others which are the backbones of what many African society is based on today. Indeed, no African nation can boastfully say his or her country doesn't have one or more of these aspect of live.

After the colonial era many African nations got independence(mostly in the 1960s) that sees the white masters and their families returning back to their various countries. It is correct to know only South Africa remains to be accepted to be home to many who refused to go back to Europe due to the reason they have made that place their home by developing it to their own taste that is never replicated elsewhere around Africa. That gives us an insight into what becomes the struggle for freedom in post-colonial South Africa that the world can't address immediately. The reasons why such development is not replicated in other countries in Africa is that they(colonial masters)never intended to called those places home because no huge resources discovered as at then, many have no compelling climate and large economies to work with as they are often used to. South Africa is the only country that yield much(in gold,diamond,etc as at then) and the whites decided to develop it for themselves, which becomes a focal point to fight for the next African freedom taking so many lives with it in the modern time to fight. Arguably, what to be fought for by others who know what to be subjected to imperialism means. Before the 1994 freedom is granted the nation experiences routinely internal disturbances which are far worse than what we are seeing today coming from Boko Haram in Nigeria. It usurps the peace in that nation and many black South Africans turn to crimes for their grievances. That soon makes that country becomes the most crimes ridden nation in the world as of today, which, they are now blaming on Nigerians living in that country.

Having said the aforementioned reasons, South Africans blacks come around to brag of their development in this thread all rather this forum how developed their country is and the reason why others most worship them requires no long reasoning before to tell them who are actually behind what they are boasting of without their own good inputs. It is absolutely clear we are trying to let them know the reasons why their nation is developed than others in Africa. That generally leads to what soon become the argument that brings in diverse views with so many discourses we are seeing now.

As we progress through these reasons it is right South African blacks don't want to stop beating their chests about how developed their country is while they are still living in the squalor of Townships in most developed nation of Africa as their forefathers land. It is a shame the indigenous people of South Africa coming here with aura of puffiness to tells us how much they are better than and claiming it to be for their hard-working nature and the educated society. Those we know are questionable evidences when fully scrutinized to the least details. The least can even be demanding as the blacks of that society are not educated while they claim most of the advancement in that society comes from them.

I would advise you to take a glimpse of the previous posts in this thread to have a better understanding of the idea on what the topic is all about and the reason the argument turns into what we it is now. Only for many to come here blaming me for stating facts as they are. Another thing is that many South Africans tend to remove the whites from the picture of the development of that country and give excuses on how they left the present government with huge deficits. That alone speaks lot about their stand on the argument and why they are not ready to say the truth.

You would agree with me here that South African development is nothing of the blacks of that society effort inputs but of the mechanism that has been put in place what their white masters of the past who are willing to stay and make that country their home. Therefore they develop it to their own taste and bring about what we know of South Africa of today. And, that must be mentioned and commended.

Thank you.

This post is is like a nollywood movie, dragging on and on instead of getting to the point. Half the time its not making sense. Gosh! The element of drama must be in the water.

[quote author=Coma_Berenices]Didn't realise there were so many of these threads here.

But my father's people are jealous of everyone. It's not just South Africa. It's also Ghana. If it's not Ghana, it's us, Black America. If its not Black America, it's the Igboz if it's not the Igbo, it's the Yoruba. If it's not the Yoruba, it's the Muslims. If it's not the Muslims, it's the christians.

Tell-tale signs of failure and dispair. When you can't take care of your business, you spend time in other people's business. So many decades of failure, the people are starting to think it's because of the color of their skin. When did Nigerians become such a "small" people?[/quote]Makes me think of a dinasours brain. You know how empty tins make the LOUDEST noise.

blitz8701: White people played a huge role in developing africa as a whole. We all know that, even nigeria wouldn't be anywhere without white people, we wouldn't be having this conversation on niraland if it wasn't for white people. They have invented a lot of things that we as africans and the rest of the world use currently, even the clothes on our backs is thanks to white people, the english we're able to speak and insult each other here with questions like "where would SA be without whites is thanks to westerners. Yes white people build SA at the backs of black people. But whites taught us how to survive in the modern world and we have used that knowledge to build a better and more improved SA. The white mans development stopped and ceased after 1994. In fact a huge number of them left and a lot of western countries thought the country would go to the dogs, but look at us today, we are stronger than ever.

I've said this before and I will say it again "this thread is stupid, and it has been created by people with envy and jealousy of the progress that has been made by SAs. Was UCT the best university in africa before 1994? NO! Was OR Tambo the best airport in africa before 1994? NO! Did the apartheid government host the first world cup in africa? NO!. White people came to nigeria and left 50 years ago, nigeria has been free for over 50 years, so tell me what do u have to show for it? Keep envying our success and I promise u that u will go no-where. U have a 30year head start before SA gained her freedom. We were freed 30 after u and yet we are 50 years ahead of u,I wonder how that works? Ohw I know tribalizm. The real question that I would start pondering and posting it online afterwards if I were u is "where would nigeria be without tribalism?" Always remember my dear friend "TOGETHER WE STAND DEVIDED WE FALL". And ohw all4naija "white-mans lap dog" this is adressed to u.

.The real question that I would start pondering and posting it online afterwards if I were u is "where would nigeria be without tribalism?"

blitz8701: White people played a huge role in developing africa as a whole. We all know that, even nigeria wouldn't be anywhere without white people, we wouldn't be having this conversation on niraland if it wasn't for white people. They have invented a lot of things that we as africans and the rest of the world use currently, even the clothes on our backs is thanks to white people, the english we're able to speak and insult each other here with questions like "where would SA be without whites is thanks to westerners. Yes white people build SA at the backs of black people. But whites taught us how to survive in the modern world and we have used that knowledge to build a better and more improved SA. The white mans development stopped and ceased after 1994. In fact a huge number of them left and a lot of western countries thought the country would go to the dogs, but look at us today, we are stronger than ever.

I've said this before and I will say it again "this thread is stupid, and it has been created by people with envy and jealousy of the progress that has been made by SAs. Was UCT the best university in africa before 1994? NO! Was OR Tambo the best airport in africa before 1994? NO! Did the apartheid government host the first world cup in africa? NO!. White people came to nigeria and left 50 years ago, nigeria has been free for over 50 years, so tell me what do u have to show for it? Keep envying our success and I promise u that u will go no-where. U have a 30year head start before SA gained her freedom. We were freed 30 after u and yet we are 50 years ahead of u,I wonder how that works? Ohw I know tribalizm. The real question that I would start pondering and posting it online afterwards if I were u is "where would nigeria be without tribalism?" Always remember my dear friend "TOGETHER WE STAND DEVIDED WE FALL". And ohw all4naija "white-mans lap dog" this is adressed to u.

The real question that I would start pondering and posting it online afterwards if I were u is "where would nigeria be without tribalism?"

all4naija: Thank you for this your quiet approach and it makes things to be relaxed a bit. If you have been following my comments in this thread you would see where are stated them fairly in details. To point to some of them for you, xenophobia in a condition of poor development without the whites in SA would turn things back into the stone age making it worse than Somalia. Incessant attacks on innocent foreigners on the streets will make SA without the white man development looks like a nation in war all rather a failed state, and just to mentioned but a few.

Thank you, once again.

Utter bull crap! Only u know what makes u think our country would collapse without illegal immigrants.

olire: oga you are talking jackshit. It is on the news today that desmond tut won't vote for ANC because of the corruption introduced. You are where you are today beacause thw whites ruled for a long time. I can bet my fucking arse that if your black pple rule for 10 more years. You will c where you will be. So my brother stop arguing and concede to the fqact that you are better because whites helped. Look at Zimbabwe. Whites ruled for some tym but when Mugabe entered. He has been there for years and we all know their story.

you are talking jack shit. We are already in power for more than 10 yrs.