Thereddevil: Reason guy.. How would strangers with guns walk into the idol houses and forcefully take away artifacts(most of which were our gods) and the Kings wouldn't protect them with their lives? Let's say you know better than i do, could you please tell me how you think these white men looted these artifacts and the lives of the kings of those days weren't lost during the loot?
REASON WITH YOUR BRAIN, HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY THIS.
Thereddevil: You don't have to think to know this, except you find it hard to perceive little things... Give me lists of kings ruling in those days of slavery and how many of them stopped ruling cos they were enslaved?
Boy, you reason at of point.....the lies they told you has eaten deep into your system.
BENIN ARTIFACTS WAS RANSACKED by this white men...WAS IT NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION...... when quoting me.
Thereddevil: They were helpless cause of the guns? Have you ever asked yourself why the Kings were never enslaved?
And who told you the kings or head of clansmen weren't enslaved then.
If truly our forefathers sold themselves as SLAVE.....how come benin artifacts made with Gold and bronze was taken to europe, and they still haven't brought all back.
They INVADED us.... forced us... killed us.... enslaved us....
AFRICAN YOUTHS, IT'S HIGH TIME WE STOOD UP AND DEFEND OUR CONTINENT FROM ALL THESE WESTERN SCAVENGER, WHO TAKES PRIDE IN CAUSING UNREST IN EVERY PART OF OUR MOTHER LAND, SO THEY COULD LOOT OUR RESOURCES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.
OUR HOPE FOR AFRICA CAN ONLY BE REALIZED, THE DAY WE STAND UP AGAINST ANY FORM OF OPPRESSION STARTING FROM OUR AFRICAN LEADERS.
I often find myself reflecting on the many observations my father made as it relates to inevitable change. "Fools try to ignore facts, but wise men must face facts to remain wise. Fools refuse to change from their silly old ways and beliefs, but the mental flexibility of the wise man permits him to keep an open mind, and enables him to re-adjust himself whenever it becomes necessary for change."
YellowbaMoslem: Bro Move on, it was still the same white that abolished slave trade.
If not for the same liberal Whites, Luther King wouldn't have achieved that milestone.
In medieval ages, the whites did worst to themselves. Slavery and Racism didn't start with black man.
The whites have been doing it to their selves even before colonial era in Africa.
They have move on with civilization, can black ever move on.
I as a Nigerian, would feel comfortable walking in the streets of london, than walking in the streets of Gombe as a Southern Christian.
Inside the same Nigeria.
Bro, Blacks have failed not only their selves, but their creator.
blacks can never move on to civilization when some of us still have this mindset, like the ones on this thread.
That black is bad..... you are telling yourselves that your country men are bad... same way our forefathers passed the lie to us that we sold ourselves as slave.
You are equally stating that white men are better, despite the evil they did to our land 400years ago.
Despite the evil they still doing to our black brothers in their country today... george floyd publicly murdered.
You telling me you pick them any day.... over your fellow black brothers
Tell you what bro, 400years is a long amount of time.... and you asking we the youth of africa to THROW AWAY THAT HISTORY JUST LIKE THAT.
THEN YOU ARE EQUALLY STATING WE SHOULD FORGET ALL THE NAMES OF THE HERO'S WHO FOUGHT FOR US AND LOST THEIR LIVES.
I SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
I CAN NEVER FORGET.
MY KIDS WILL NEVER FORGET.
THEIR KIDS WILL NEVER FORGET
ITS CALLED HISTORY, AND HISTORY IS NEVER MENT TO BE FORGOTEN.
YellowbaMoslem: Tribalism and jungle mentality of a black Man is a Billion time worse than Racism.
I would even find it easier to live in Russia, than say I dey go Sokoto or Kano for holidays of 1 week. Nothing go carry me enter North.
Lai lai.. I rather spend the rest of my life in the so called Racist California, Moscow or Paris.
your decision and I respect that bro, but before you think of spending your life na in racist california or moscow....I would have preferred you to go there in the 1800 or early 1900 when it was really hot..... before the time of our lost freedom fighters.... Martin Luther King who paved some path for us... before the time of nelson mandela...I would have loved you to be among the black men that experience that era.
YOU DON'T CARE, YOU ARE NOT THE ONE BEEN CHAINED HERE.
THAT'S BLACK MAN HEART, WE ARE OUR GREATEST PROBLEM.
lebron7: Ok slave boy So what is all this your argument driving at?
when you finally ready to learn about your fore Fathers history.... you drop that bobo juice.... and go back to page 1 and read my post all over again....till then....wallow in ignorance
Conner44: About the first bolded please kindly explain how I validated your points? If for anything I’m sure I decimated them but as usual you’d rather bury your head in the sand.
The second bolded fully exposes the underlying reason for your emotional pattern of reasoning. Yes the whites invaded most of Africa but that will never make me twist history just to make myself feel better.
no history was twist, you Just another lost black soul afraid to learn about his root.
You just another lost soul afraid to see this white men and their tricks they used on our ancestors.... and still using till today.
You just another lost soul that prefers to hear lies, than what really happened centuries ago.
NO AFRICAN SOLD THEMSELVES AS SLAVE, WE WERE INVADED WITH GUNS AND GRENADES.
WE HAD NO CHOICE THAN TO SUBMIT.
THEY TOOK OUR BROTHERS FORCEFULLY AS SLAVES TO HELP BUILD THEIR COUNTRIES.
I WAIT TILL THE DAY YOUR FINALLY WOKE... BUT DEFINITELY NOT TODAY
Conner44: All I see in your post is “they said - they said”.
About our ancestors living in trees of course as it is a lie. Humans have never lived in trees so that statement (wherever you read it) must have been made as a joke. Humans have always lived on the ground an not in trees.
About our ancestors using strictly sign language of course you should also know this is a lie. The lips and tongues of our ancestors have always been in use. Sign language is a rather modern concept formulated for the convenience of communication with invalids and special needs human beings in our modern society. If per adventure it is confirmed that Africans used sign languages in the past then it is a bonus for us as we will be the ones accredited with its invention instead of the white men.
About them saying we were black monkeys well of course we were black but not monkeys. That’s just another word they use to incense Africans and make them emotional as you are now. If you’ve watched the movie ‘the gods must be crazy’ you’d recognize the lead actor who is the hunter from an existing African tribe. Did you think that man and the women in his village wore those garbs and spoke those word just for the production of that movie? No. He is a real human from a real part of modern day Africa from a real tribe that dresses and behaves exactly as he was doing in that movie. I am sure if you ran into such a person tomorrow you’d be tempted to call him a ‘black African monkey’ wont you?
So you see you’re reasoning emotionally not rationally and hiding from the truth. Even if civilization began in Africa as a fact it won’t take a way the truth that it didn’t advance as rapidly as the whites own civilization did after they started theirs.
You validated all my points but still coming out like a 2faced man.
This is not about emotion or whatsoever...it's about black history ... and we the younger generations never forgets.. what our ancestors had to pass through 400years ago.
This is not they say ..or they said.
It's what happened then. And what's still happening till today.
Your last paragraph....I agree... the white might have advance rapidly than we Africans with the help of guns,grenades, electron....BUT THEY CAME AND STOPPED OUR CIVILIZATION
Have ever thought..... what life would have been like if the missionaries didn't come to africa with their religions.
Conner44: But everything you posted that they said about us is true. Why are you burying your head in the sand?
So you see the truth and choose to disbelieve it because it is bitter?
You sir are a hypocrite
did you really believe our fore father's lived on trees..... meanwhile drawings are found in caves and mountains till today.
They said africans can't communicate orally, only use signs..... but we have different ancient languages discovered from Africa.
They said we are black monkeys, with no purpose of life, yet when they came with guns... they ransacked our ancestral homes and made away with our ancient artifacts...and craft work...like benin case....
Bros...when will you be woke?
I will wait till that day comes.... maybe you can never be woke.
lonelyisland: Celebrated you say!? For your information the whites knows what's right and wrong, when they do the wrong things and you oppose them, they kill you and then they celebrate you as the greatest. Check all saints, check all the black activists of the past. Don't be surprised if Nnamdi Kanu is killed today and tomorrow you see him being celebrated as the greatest hero of our time. My brother fear the whites
Malcolm x did no wrong for fighting for afro americans....he was killed by black men like the ones we have on this thread... with same MINDSET that all black freedoms fighters are evil....all black men are evil.
Nelson mandela, spent most years behind bars,....he was let down by his so called brothers.
Martin luther king murdered fighting for this same black men here on this THREAD.
they don't want to see reasons that this white men are the most barbaric creatures on the earth surface.
Do you really believe our ancestors sold themselves to slavery with their own hands?
Those are lies bro, they wanted us to believe. They made that up to cover the atrocities done to our motherland.
My grand pops used to tell me life in the early 1800s was as easy and free like a bird. No stress, though we have our own internal conflicts.. during the colonial era.
So that got me thinking, if the 1700, 1800 to 1900 before the invasion of this white folks was smooth. We don't even know what money is.
All we do is trade by barter, you give me fish..I give you starch or yam...till this white folks came to desecrate our land.
Then they decided to leave us by handling power to North, turning us against ourself.
go to the schools in the uk, whenever they managed to teach about AFRICA OR BLACK CULTURE.. THEY TEACH LIES... LIKE SAYING AFRICANS SOLD THEMSELVES AS SLAVES
AFRICANS CAN'T WRITE, THEIR ONLY KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH SIGNS
BUT YET THEY RANSACKED OUR ANCESTRAL HOME, AND MADE AWAY WITH DIFFERENT ARTIFACTS..
TheGoodJoe: Excerpts from an article on slavery in Nigeria. The Untold Story Behind Mobee Royal Family Slave Museum
he started by telling us that During the slave era, Badagry as a whole served as a slave corridor where slaves were brought from all over the country e.g oyo, Ibadan, Ogun etc to be exported to different parts of Europe.
In Badagry was also a market called Blekete slave market (established in 1502). On every Blekete market day, 300 slaves were being sold on the average per day and 17,000 yearly. Note, likely Nigerians, bringing other Nigerians to get sold to the white men for slavery. so they introduced barter system to settle the problem of exchange. To achieve this, they brought in items such as dry gin, canon gun, gun powder, mirror, camera etc in exchange for human beings.
I quickly thought within me that, so some people were actually free. If this is true, then it means our agonies were brought upon us by our selfish leaders. Because what this implies is that these chiefs actually have slaves which they in turn sell to the whites as slaves. smh https://www.nairaland.com/3525148/untold-story-behind-mobee-royal
You will always be slave with a mindset like this.
Because you truly don't know your ancestors history.
Your a lost soul.
Take yourself at of my thread please. I won't tell you again.