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ddippset:
Not when Messi has;

1. More Ballon dors.
2. More Individual International awards.
3. More goals scored per game.
4. More assists.
5. More trophies.

Best player at Euro 2016 was Griezman. Who's talking about winning side?
O please!

Shows you Portugal won as a team.

Messi on the other hand completely conquers every tournament he plays.

He has 4 tournament golden balls already.

That's what you call flop?

Please stop clowning yourself.


And to your analogy, what happens when the genaral that counquers one country only defeats the general that conquers 4 diffetent countries, in a head to head battle?

Tell the world he is greater because he conquered 4 countries

No one is surprised that u guys are delusional.... conquered all tournaments he has played in ...in ur little delusional world.... keep on dreaming...its allowed

Beedude:
That is how u people fail. The UCL Final between Barca and Juve was MAY 2015. Now tell me how that isnt almost 6yrs ago? They played 2 UCL finals in 6yrs.
I mentioned years and u are busy counting seasons.
If u can't handle the truth, its nobody's fault.

Footbakl is not measured in years but seasons cos the tournament started in 2014 and not 2015

Beedude:
That is how u people fail. The UCL Final between Barca and Juve was MAY 2015. Now tell me how that isnt almost 6yrs ago? They played 2 UCL finals in 6yrs.
I mentioned years and u are busy counting seasons.
If u can't handle the truth, its nobody's fault.

Footbakl is not measured in years but seasons

pquaver:
Stop talking rubbish oga. It is you that is talking and saying rubbish to defend him. How do your compare Uruguay and Russia.. Uruguay is a world cup winning nation, Copa America multiple winners and has produced regular household world-class talents.. Which one has Russia done.. As far as Worldcup history is concerned you know u cannot mention Ronaldo anywhere near Messi.. Your Ronaldo is a perennial group stage exiter. Messi has never left in a group stage so better respect yourself in that aspect not to talk of Worldcup achievements.. Oga go sit down joor

But u used ur other mouth to call Porto a small team forgetting the fact that they are former champions league and nations league winners and multiple league winners and have produced world class coaches and players in the past ...hypocrisy go kee una

Kilishihunter:
Here we go again He scored and assisted in it before his injury against Chelsea and you are saying Rubbish Ronaldo got injured early against France in the euros final but all his goals should not count because he was injured abi What about those that didn't play shit but were still given medals See if you are not happy he has four Go to his house Beat him up Check his trophy cabinet Look for his 2005/2006 UCL medal and go and remove it Then tell FIFA and UEFA he has 3 ucls so that they can update it Beverlyjean you've come back with this your vertical thinking How does juve not even qualify against a 10 man Porto side So what would have happened if they met bayern Liverpool or PSG

Who did he score and who did he assist...saying trash.... that same year lehmann was awarded best keeper in the CL cos he dint conceded a goal despite getting a red car in the first half of the final.... u wanna compare a fringe player messi in 06 that only started 2 games and missed the rest of the tournament to a captain that played every minute till he got injured in the final

ddippset:
Nonsense!

Imbecillic analogy.

Ideally the official way to compare 2 footballers head to head is the number of best player awards won; which is the ballon dor.

Not the number of countries played in..

You cannot be comparing 2 sportsmen and be talking about number of countries when there are official ballon dors won to determine the best player!

It's just like saying that in a competition between 2 students, that the one who attended many schools is better than the one who attended only 1 school, even when the second guy has won more best student awards.

Plain foolishness.


BTW


Trophies are won by a team, not an individual.

Messi has won the best player of the tournament at;

1. The Under 17 World Cup.
2. The FIFA World Cup.
3. The Copa America.

Ronaldo has never been the best player at any tournament for Portugal. He is always carried by the team.

At Euro 2016 he had Eder to thank. At UEFA Nations Cup he had Bernado to thank.

Then we can categorically say modric is better than iniesta and xavi... and van dyke is better than Maldini and ramos ...

If ronaldo has never been the best player for Portugal in any tournament, then pls tell me who was best in 2016 winning side at euros and the last world cup in Russia...pls tell me who was Portugal best player... u must answer this...


Forlan also won best player in the 2010 world cup... even tho he dint make the final and had no impact in the quarters...


A general in the army that conquers 4 different countries will b made a field Marshall and a general that has only conquered one country will b below him

paulolee:
barca is keeping messi to stabilize d team bcoz dis time without messi is dead and also those wages are given to him for past glories bcox leo av paid his dues In gold..
barca would av sold him since if they are paying him for UCL bcox even messi knows he cant even guarantee dt team winning d league or even d copa..
cr7 was sold to a new team and being paid mad wages to win d UCL n its a total different story...
lastly, messi scored a superb goal against PSG in paris bt ur cr7 didnt score any in both legs against a small Porto even with 10 man...u no get excuse abeegi

Superp goal with 5.2 ...what if the paupers penalty miss... so they are paying him for champions league glory of many years ago ...inukwa...I never hear this one b4. ...they are paying him huge because if past glory ....messi fans una no go kee person ... they disgraced u guys 5.2 and u are talking about scoring a superb goal ... but u guys insulted Ronaldo despite scoring the goals for juve as they were eliminated...u see y they say messi fans are hypocrites... u guys condemned Ronaldo , called him penaldo and tapnaldo but ur man 5 goals this season in the CL had 4 penalties, now who is the penalty lord ?? E b like say na God de shame una ooo

Kilishihunter:
You must Sha find a way to involve Messi See highest level of insecurity I hope you know Juventus is not going to win a 10th straight scudetto and you people that were shouting Mr. Champions league He carries his team alone He can do it on his own He plays like a 25 year old Blah Blah are now changing your mouth talking Rubbish What did he do against Porto on Tuesday except to be groaning and whining and dodging freekick It's now you remember juve's defense even with Bonucci chiellini de ligt and demiral is bad but barsa's conceding large goals is Messi's fault right Juve brought him to win UCL So that means he shouldn't score again abi Juve should just count their losses 120m gone to the gutter At least messi has delivered 4 ucls for Barca Ronaldo has no tangible legacy in juve for now Only in man United and real Madrid Abi was it to win serie A and coppa Italia that they were winning regularly they bought him Even the serie A sef they won't win this year Chai

And stop claiming messi delivered 4...he was inconsequential in the first...Ronaldinho delivered the first not messi...messi that dint feature from quarters and only played 2 group games... for Messi fans, in their books, that is called delivering ...una no well for head

Kilishihunter:
You must Sha find a way to involve Messi See highest level of insecurity I hope you know Juventus is not going to win a 10th straight scudetto and you people that were shouting Mr. Champions league He carries his team alone He can do it on his own He plays like a 25 year old Blah Blah are now changing your mouth talking Rubbish What did he do against Porto on Tuesday except to be groaning and whining and dodging freekick It's now you remember juve's defense even with Bonucci chiellini de ligt and demiral is bad but barsa's conceding large goals is Messi's fault right Juve brought him to win UCL So that means he shouldn't score again abi Juve should just count their losses 120m gone to the gutter At least messi has delivered 4 ucls for Barca Ronaldo has no tangible legacy in juve for now Only in man United and real Madrid Abi was it to win serie A and coppa Italia that they were winning regularly they bought him Even the serie A sef they won't win this year Chai

U are the one with insecurity issues cos this thread is about Ronaldo...messi wasn't mentioned...so what u doing here...whenever u guys see Ronaldos name in the news, ur hearts start to beat fast.... remove the log in ur eye first b4 condemning someone else... with the heavy wages that has depleted barcas books in the search for CL glory , what has that midget given them in return?? Even league, he can't win again ... he has now stepped down from league to copa titles... this is the 6th consecutive year that he has disgraced barca out of CL ...barca were busy throwing away money not knowing that iniesta nd xavi were the ones that were winning the CL titles for them ...them retire , Messi no fit see final again , in 6 4kin yrs ... with the same team ooo...at least Ronaldo changed teams of which his former team de see red since im japa

ddippset:
Am allergic to senseless comments.

What law states that a great player plays for many clubs?

Lemme tell you something; No player would leave any club unless;

1. He is going to a bigger club.
2. He is going to earn more money.
3. He is not desired and pampered by his club.

*Messi plays at Barca, there is no bigger club.
*Barca have pampered Messi so much, they refuse to let go of him.
*Barca pays him astronomically.

Yet he is not greater than Ronaldo because he has refused to leave Barca!

What stinking logic!!

Ur logic is stupid..... even during car production a car is tested in different terrains b4 its certified. Messi has failed with his national team and that alone is enough reason ... Ronaldo has succeded in every team he has ever played for ...No difference between Messi and Lewandowski

EdoAirline:
see nonsense you are spewing...

Messi see penalty him no fit score...

oh before I forget....the same penalty make messi no get any international Trophy

please try to connect the brain to the mouth before speaking

If not for penalties messi for de one goal...he was awarded 5 penalties this season just to boost his goals

OJEEMAH:
Ashamed of what exactly?? You guys always use double standard to compare MESSI & RONALDO. Ronaldo played about 150games more but has less than 50 goals more than MESSI but you guys still he's a better scorer but you want us to feel ashamed comparing a 36 year old to a 33year old right?

Its not any double standards... goals scored is different from age ...guy....

Beedude:
6yrs should start from 2015 final against Barca. They later played another final in 2017 or so with R.madrid and lost. I won't reply u again since u can't air ur view politely.

Nope...6yrs starts from 2016

2015/2016 yr 1
2016/2017 yr2
2017/ 2018 yr3
2018/ 2019 yr4
2019/2020 yr5
2020/ 2021 yr6

Beedude:
'Put Ronaldo in the team of 2015 or 2017' made me laugh. Are u talking about Ronaldo of 28yrs or 35yrs?
It is just glaring to everyone that Ronaldo didn't singlehandedly win UCL for Madrid as some fans claimed. The club built a very strong team around him. Hence, the reason for the success.
Juve are the loser in this deal. Dybala has been affected somehow with the signing of Cr7. He is the future of Juve cos Cr7 will leave soon

U should understand when metaphorical statements are made...they say Maradona single handedly won the WC for Argentina dont mean he played alone , but he was the star man , he was the instrument that clicked the rest... Ronaldo is that instrument already and we all see it thru his goal records all they need is a team to get it done... Conservative teams cant win the CL , thats what atletico is suffering....only hight scoring teams can win the CL ....

paulolee:
my gur forget all this ur epistle...you said his job is to score goals bt he didnt score any against a minor porto..
Juve didn't sign him to win d league bcoz dey av bin winning it for previous sesons before he came in..
Juve didn't sign him for the goal records u are mentioning which are good numbers...
my point is dt, alot of money was used to bring him to Juve n the president said its bcox of d UCL, if juve keeps failing to win dt UCL and cr7 keeps cashing out each week, dt means bad business...
if messi joins PSG or city with d aim of winning d UCL n he ends up not winning any, no amount of goals, assist or awards would stop d media from saying the move failed...dts my point

Just like messi is doing at barca now... for the past donkey years , they keep on increasing his wages to the extent that it has wrecked their books ...all because of CL , or do u think they pay him that much to keep on winning league titles...barca want the CL but the man keeps on failing on that aspect...at least watching juve past 2 CL campaigns, it was only Ronaldo doing the scoring...but messi had always failed to put a single goal whenever they get knocked out , after commanding leads ....

ThierryJay:
Your comment is full of lies and sentiments which is not worth my reply or time. Allow the person I quoted to respond (hopefully more sensibly).

Point out the lies please...

Rubbiish:
U are the one not OK!
Didn't u read what Cobolli Gigli said??
So now it is their leaking defence??
All u sentimental oafs will never see things from logical perspective! Why pay him ridiculous amount if there is nothing special about him to singlehandedly deliver the club to championship?? But will be relying solely on other team members to deliver?? Why the ridiculous amount?? Placing too much importance on a single player has never favoured any club! It happened to PSG & now it is juventus turn, I hope they learn from this! All these over hyped players are useless without the help of other players!!!

And who the Bleep is cibolli , what was his achievement as juve boss ?? U are not smart

Beedude:
U will give him all the credit if Juventus had won UCL but don't want to blame him for the loss.
Why are we like this in Nigeria?

Y wud u blame him for the loss?? He has don his own by scoring goals, its left for the defence to defend his goals...

Beedude:
But when they win he will be the reason for winning?
Juve played 2 finals in the last 6 years without Ronaldo. And since he came they have never passed Q/finals. Losing to underdogs like Ajax, Lyon and Porto. It is what it is.

In 6 years they only saw semi final once ...and that was it 2017...2016 round of 16, 2018 quater final...stop saying trash

Rubbiish:
U are the one not OK!
Didn't u read what Cobolli Gigli said??
So now it is their leaking defence??
All u sentimental oafs will never see things from logical perspective! Why pay him ridiculous amount if there is nothing special about him to singlehandedly deliver the club to championship?? But will be relying solely on other team members to deliver?? Why the ridiculous amount?? Placing too much importance on a single player has never favoured any club! It happened to PSG & now it is juventus turn, I hope they learn from this! All these over hyped players are useless without the help of other players!!!

U are certainly not ok...did u just say depending on other teammates to deliver...in the oast 2 seasons, did any other player score in the knockout apart from Ronaldo... juve scored 7 knockout goals ,all scored by one man... or do u think he will b scoring per game?? If a player can guarantee 30-40 goals a season and u still blame the player for the clubs woes, then u need to check ur brain ...haba, what sort of hatred is this ...he is tge second highest scorer in Europe this season behind Lewandowski...in a team that will hardly score 3 goals a game


But u failed to mention messi that is the highest paid player in football....his wages have crippled barca and what did they get in return...constant disgrace in the CL

Beedude:
But this same Juve have been to 2 finals within 6 years without Ronaldo. What has changed ? Losing to teams like Ajax, Lyon or Porto at Q/final stage is enough to tell u Juventus doesn't need Ronaldo. Dybala is the future, with few young bloods he will do the trick. Barca are also making same mistake by keeping Messi.

They had pirlo, pogba, vidal , tevez, buffon , chiellini and bonucci were in their prime, Daniel Alves, evra, marchisio , higuain , mandzukic...with allegri as coach...those were generals ... compare that with Ramsey, mckenni , bentacour, demirel , sandro, Danilo, rabio , bernadeschi , kulusevski ,... the only exceptional players in that team is Ronaldo, chiesa , cuadrodo that is forced to play RB ....put Ronaldo in the team of 2015 or 2017 and juve wud hv won the CL...he was the difference when they both met in the final

Juve should learn from real madrid....they acquired Ronaldo for a record transfer....he cudnt win them the CL in his first 4 seasons but they saw how lethal he was in attack ...all they did was to acquire another Central back in varane as a back up, got cavajal from leverkusen , acquired modric and alonso and the speed of bale to support him and Ronaldo shattered the CL goal record scored by hitting 17 and winning them the CL ...he did it a futher 3 times... juventus are not smart enough to take advantage of his goals... in 2017 , Ronaldo had only 2 goals in the CL entering the quarter final , his team mates helped to get them to the quarters and the Ronaldo took charge...thats when he scored a hat-trick against bayern in the quarters, a hat trick against atletico in the semis and a brace against juve in the final to lift the cup and win top scorer yet again... juventus are just fooling themselves...its not everyone that can win a race with a ferrari

Rubbiish:
To whom much is given, much is expected!
They can't be giving ronaldo elephant pay & he keeps bringing ant results & u expect the club not to complain?

Are u OK...someone that averages 0.90goals per game even at his age..... replace him with Lewandowski or mbappe and the result will still b the same... juve lacks offensive play ... if he was finding it difficult to score, I wud understand...but he has been hitting the net on the reg...he is the second top scorer in the whole of Europe only behind Lewandowski.... what else do they want from him...they should go fix their leaking defence

plethora007:
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The Portuguese has delivered on and off the field for the Bianconeri, but their mounting financial problems could force them to sell the superstar

Cristiano Ronaldo is the reason why most people expect Juventus to progress past Porto in Tuesday's Champions League last-16 second leg in Turin.

But there are also those who believe he is the reason why the Bianconeri have a 2-1 deficit to overcome.

Juve were abysmal in the first leg at the Dragao, and Ronaldo unusually ineffective. As the Gazzetta dello Sport pointed out in their match ratings, the Portuguese had Rodrigo Bentancur to thank for avoiding the ignominy of being labelled the worst player on the pitch.

Just like barca became worse after xavi and iniesta retired

paulolee:
I love dt tag *expensive mistake" but I think its more like an "expensive flop"....
weeks after dt cr7 transfer to juve, napoli president de laurentis said its better to improve a squad by getting 2-3 key players for 120m than buying a 34yr old player for such amount and cr7 fan boys started attacking his comment...
its 3 seasins n no UCL, and perez n cr7 agent are d biggest winners .
I said it countless times dt a crafty Perez dt I know wont sell an efficient cr7 for such price, he would rather improve his deal n keep him..
the last seasin UCL dt Madrid won taught dm dt they av to start preparing for life without cr7...barca still de tink am..

U are definitely a Ronaldo hater.... how can u call him a flop ?? He has been juves top scorer for the past 2 seasons including this season... if they don't win the CL with Ronaldo, then they hv themselves to blame...cos they dint take advantage...Ronaldo can't b forever young , juve had the chance to boost their squad when he was hitting it hard... only if they had quality to assist him in the past 2 season when he was the only one scoring in the knock out stages... his job is to score goals which he has been doing , defending the goals he scored is not his job... juve don't plan on how to replace their aging defence.... sandro has been very weak defensively and is always out jumped by opposing strikers ... cuadrado is not a natural RB ... they don't even have a good DM ... they only go for players that are free in the market... Dybala has totally lost form after recovering from the deadly covid virus.... ronaldo has scored about 88 goals in 105 appearances for juve and u call him a flop... if juve had the kind of formidable defence they were known for, they wud hv won the CL ...

ThierryJay:
Lol, Is that all? I'm disappointed o. Very weak attack. You sure say you ready for my counter?

What counter...ur people have not appeared in a CL final in 6 years ... only one semi final in 6 years , disgraced out in 5 consecutive CL knock out games ... and u guys are still hyping...messi is most definitely overrated... u guys should even feel ashamed comparing a 36 Yr old to a 33 Yr old ... when Ronaldo was messis age, he personally
destroyed that same PSG home and away

Techiekingee:
Oga, we are talking about the match juventus vs Barcelona....tell me if ur Ronaldo with 2pks was a better player than Messi in that match....stop complicating urself.....

Ps.. football started 6years ago

He was a far better player...pls what did messi do in that game?? Did he score?? Did he set up a goal?? And u say he performed better after collecting 3 unreplied goals...u guys should hide ur heads in shame... the question is was he effective?? The answer is NO!!! Persom score 2 goals for match and u say the one that was busy hitting balls that cudnt beat the keeper was better ...u well so ??

Techiekingee:
See talk....if they had asked u to pick an opponent for juve between, Bayern and Lyon or psg and porto.....which would u av chosen....
Making silly excuses for Juventus losses.... There's no excuse for juventus loss to Porto...oga just swallow it......after bringing in mr champions League....slayer of atletico......only to be eliminated by Lyon and porto...just die that matter.... it's complete disaster

Same Porto that man city cudnt score away this season, lyon that eliminated man city... u guys still think archaic ...ajax, lyon both got to the semi finals and I wudnt b surprised if Porto do same... u think its by big name, Porto are former champions, something PSG or Roma has never achieved

pquaver:
Oga they are all crucial.. If Scholes did not end up scoring they story can change. If John. Terry scored sorry na him name. If he scored the penalty he would be 7 points behind inter now. If he scored against Milan na coppa Italia win. If he scored again Iran he would have played Russia instead of Uruguay.. Stop making excuses.. All penalties are crucial if not kuku play am go throw in na.

So u feel playing the host nation will guarantee victory?? Look at how u reason just to discredit him...russia and Uruguay were about the same thing in the world cup... at least he had the best performance for Portugal in that world cup and was selected in the world cup team of 2018...ur messi was nothing but a disaster in thst same WC ...had only his favourite meal ( Nigeria) as team to score ... half of his world cup goals hv come against Nigeria...

Uzi11enzo:
Ronaldo since leaving Real Madrid

2018/2019 - Eliminated by the little Ajax (Note : Ajax got dismantled by Tottenham in the semi final. This same Tottenham got dismantled by Messi nd barca 4-2 twice)

2019/2020 : Eliminated by Lyon (Note : This same Lyon got dismantled by Lionel Messi when barca trashed them 4-2 with Messi scoring two wonderful goals, as well as rendering two beautiful assists. Lyon were lucky that they didn't get beaten by a bigger margin)

2020/2021 : Eliminated by 10 man Porto. This one is funny as fûçk. Your goat couldn't even score one at home nd away hahahaha that's a embarrising for someone of his caliber.

Ay the end of the day, Ronaldo is țřăšh without Real Madrid! Juventus should have never bought him bcus he's a tap-in-naldo. Juventus does not and never needed someone who only knows how to tap in goals, they needed someone to win them the UCL. It's why they WASTED a Hundred million pounds on him.

You and your goay should be ashamed of yourselves. *Spits!

So u are calling out the lyon team the previous season.... so Leicester that fought relegation the previous season b4 the won the Premiership the following season was the same.... look at how u guys think ... so because barca defeated them the previous season , it meant the remained the same the next season... after the defeated juve on away goals rule , they then beat man city 3.1 to get to the semis ...or are u not aware of that?? Lyon was hot 2 seasons ago.... Ajax as well was hot when they defeated juve...do u know that same season they disgraced real madrid 4.1 in Madrid and bayern cudnt defeat them over 2 legs 1.1 and 3.3 ... their arrogance was the reason y they dint get to the final, cos they led spurs 2.0 at half time but were arrogantly going for more goals and they conceeded in the last minute to b sent home , that game was their only defeat in the competition... but check barca...getting disgraced year in year out...3.0 juve , 3.0 roma,4.0 Liverpool, 8.2 bayern , 4.1 psg ...haba

Techiekingee:
Destroyed my foot....did u even watch the match or u're just here to argue......Messi was the only player that flourished in that Match... Ronaldo fans didn't even have the mouth to banter....asides d two penalties, he was totally toothless....why was McKenzie chosen as man of the match and not Ronaldo ...??....oga destroyer....u tink ts by scoring 2pks

Ps, we are talking about a knockout stage, u are bringing group stage.... everyone knows it was a terrible match.... Simeone's men just went to Turin to defend....simple

After flourishing, he collected 3.0 and also collected 5.2 after flourishing... ... so scoring 4 pks out of his 5goals is ur meaning of flourishing... u guys should start telling yourselves the truth... that guy has not advanced to the final in 6yrs heading to 7yrs now ...has won top scorer in the CL only once in 6 yrs

Cammo:
He didn't miss the penalty, he was denied of it. Know the difference. At least he scored, arguably, the most fantastic goal of the season. LOL!

... messi fans have come again ...so he dint miss the penalty, he was denied ....another messi fans classic