BigIyanga: Breaking it down for thick-skulled folks. It means that black SAs have the worst health outcomes. Highest HIV rate in the world means that you guys are recklessly unhealthy and unsafe. 1 out of 4 SA black is diabetic.. so quality of life amongst black people is actually lower if you were a country on your own without whites and Asians.. Whites and Asians dont really want to share that country with you guys if not for your mineral resources. Only 5% of your population go tertiary institutions and only 3% graduate. Whites and Asians fill up your unis.. and they control over 70% of top exec and mgt positions. You guys are in a really deep trouble. Your GDP ownership of your country is very minuscule. You guys own less than 10% of the aggregate economy which is less than $40bn.
How does South Africa having HIV nullify the fact that South Africa has a higher standard of living to Nigeria? I want an answer for this none..not the self-flattering nonsense you're spewing
Disclaimer12: Are u circumcized? Do you know your father ? I'm sounding like a prophet already right ? 😂 Bra, I've entertained u enough , run , bounce lol , go check the spaza shop you're targeting! Amandla! Awethu 😂! Viva Dudula ! viva ! Viva McKenzie! Viva 😂, we all waiting for you guys one day ! Now run along boy
O' you have no idea how downright stupid you sound
Disclaimer12: Really 😂, tell me your understanding of economics, you can full yourself all you want, we all know that the only time south Africans are happy to compete is when the Springboks are playing at the world Cup and we all know why , lol ! There's absolutely nothing a Black south African is contributing, check the taxi business that's run by your uncles and tell me if you're proud
Actually, such is what you tell yourselves to make your plight a bit palatable...
Disclaimer12: Hau Mfethu, we all can see why the white kept u in shackles till 1994 many many many years after other countries gain independence we all know you're weakling and it takes the effort of other black country to rescue you in "1994" the real joke is on u bafo
And you're all over the place chasing the same white man to his countries ..even risk drowning in oceans.. You guys are such a pathetic nationality
Disclaimer12: Nope, how can a full grown man like me engage in intellectual debate with an uncircumcised kid? In an anonymous platform, nah, my ancestors will disapprove, I just enjoy getting you emotional and your swearing and cursing prove I'm poking the right button 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Exactly my point.. "I'm uncircumcised" "I don't have a father" bla h blah.... All these "intellectual debates" to a Nigerian. No surprises though
Disclaimer12: Engaging a BLACK south African in an intellectual debate is like flogging a dead horse, you're showing me photos of BRAVE men who risked it all in search of food for their families, yet your lazy ass drug infested brain can't even compete in front of your father's house , I ask again, which Spaza shop is your own target 😂
Which Brave men? Brave men enslaved by another AFrican country in the 21st century? 😂
And yeah, you're proving my point exactly. You have to risk drowning in the Mediterranean in search for food.. This is slavery
Disclaimer12: By the way do you know your REAL Father? Coz we heard over 70 % of you don't even know your father's, hence the reason u all behave like headless chicken
So these are "intellectual debates" you're talking about?
Disclaimer12: Engaging a BLACK south African in an intellectual debate is like flogging a dead horse, you're showing me photos of BRAVE men who risked it all in search of food for their families, yet your lazy ass drug infested brain can't even compete in front of your father's house , I ask again, which Spaza shop is your own target 😂
What do you know about "intellectual debates" There's nothing remotely "intellectual about you
Disclaimer12: Didn't u say the Zimbabwean are the ones working , youre dominated even in the E-hailing business , check all the Bolts , check the Uber , before u find one single SANs , you'll wait for 12 hours, you're all restricted to your hostels and shacks , drinking, smoking drugs and blaming your supplier , lol
Boss. you have no understanding of economics.. you're now just embarrassing yourself
BigIyanga: Better standard of living with the highest HIV rate in the world? Better tertiary education, yet your enrollment rate is 5%, highest dropout rate amongst all races, lowest graduation rate. Better economy when 90% of economy is controlled and owned whites and Asians. Go play somewhere abeg
How does having HIV nullify the fact that South Africa has a better standard of living than Nigeria? do tell I have access to better tertiary education..so? better literacy even Yes, best economy in Africa..and if you know how the economy is generated, you'd understand economy is generated through factors of production.
[quote author=Disclaimer12 post=133218911[b]]Who are the "we" ? Black south African can't contribute to any GDP[/b], the only thing black south African contribute statistically is multiple babies with different mothers, and large HIV statistics, there's nothing positive about you lazy morons[/quote]You've just shown me you have little understanding of economics.. GDP (goods and services produced)..who's producing all those goods and services if not the South AFrican people? You're so stupid it hurts
Disclaimer12: Proven me right yet again 😜, your lazy emotional self still fell for the lies and propaganda, we know what's going on braz there's never been any single confirmed incidence linked to any spaza shops, your president confirmed that the chemicals used to kill rats in your dirty black neighborhoods was the cause of the deaths, but what's your solution to these? Let's steal the spaza shop , you're more concerned about stealing the spaza shops than the kids that died as a result of poor black neighborhood hygienic
You're the one relying on propaganda fool..I'm on the ground seeing these things happening in my own country.. You're again defending criminality, it says a lot abut the Nigerian pscyhe
Disclaimer12: And you're a slave in the same country, your only consolation when u see a successful Nigerian is lying to yourself that it's illicit deal, show me one mechanic shop own in Joburg by a BLACK south African lol, tell me one aspect of economy that have Black south African dominating aside the TAXI ranks and we all know what's going on there
LOL.. you're really in no position to call anyone anything, let alone a slave,.....Look at your people drowning like slaves they really are..,..When such is happening just know...
Disclaimer12: Which Ethiopia spaza shop is your own target 😂, we heard you guys are trying to chase them and steal their shops , I know you'll come up with a delusional propaganda of fake and expired product, your brain are wired to believe everything your master Choked down your throat ! I have never seen people so Lazy and lacking self confidence!
Stupid fool,, if you knew what you're talking about you'd know Kids in South Africa are dying left right, and center because of these spazas run by Pakis, Somalis and Ethiopians.. These people create their own Coke, snacks, etc in dodgy and unhygienic places .. so when our kids are dying due to food poisoning what do you expect mor0n? First of all, these people are illegals in South Africa
that's why I keep saying..you fools have no clue what's happening in SA.. but the your mouths are big, and the only thing you know is screaming "xenophobia" without understanding the real context
Disclaimer12: Let me help you, we are criminal, we sell drugs, we commit intellectual fraud and take back some bread stolen from you by your white masters! We are not Inkabis, we don't have highest gender based violence, we dint have one of the highest Murder case, we don't have one of the highest Rape case, I will remind u again, there's NOTHING positive about a BLACK south AFRICAN aside his HIV certificate, run along and get circumcized before u come here to talk to men, you're all CRIMINALs, Lazy bunch
You're criminals in another man's country boss. I don't know what you're even defending.. or defecting from..there's nothing positive about your group.. You're a cancer, you're parasites
I said show me one country that has banned South Africans due to crime, I;m still waiting
Disclaimer12: slowpoke 😂, you can't defend south African without sounding stupid , the Stockholm syndrome has damaged your brain, I ask again, why are you guys so weak and Lazy ? Do u know how many hours in the sky to come to SA? Yet Nigerians are calling shot there while u dare not or CAN'T even cross border to Mozambican to act tough, you're only Shaka Zulu in your enslaved mind we heard your new found passion now is now to steal spaza shops from the Parkistani and Somalis , 😂 shows how shallow minded you are,no Single business idea, i don't even know if talking to a boy who's yet to be circumcized 😂 or another fucking dirty gay
Stop using fancy terms like "Stockholm syndrome when you barely understand their meaning.. We aren't exactly the ones chasing the white man all over the place are we? You're literally dying in oceans in pursuit of the white man and his country.. Pathetic fools
Call us "lazy" all you want...facts speak for themselves you are poorer than us!! we preside on the best economy the best GDP We host world cups with all our laziness we have the best of everything.. that's why you're flocking here not the other way around..what's there in Nigeria for an average South African? Nothing
Disclaimer12: Can u please go to the prison and ask for the roll calls , then you can come back and tell me who are the real criminal, an average south Africans have criminal mind , Let's pretend we don't know who are the Inkabis , let's pretend we don't know the people that killed Senzo, kill AKA, let's blame it on Zimbabwean, let's pretend we don't know you have highest rate of Gender base violence in the world,I think south Africa definition of a crime ks when it's being committed by another black person, like I said, the internet don't forget, one day you all will need Zimbabwean,
it's either you fools are braindead or delusional.. show me one country that doesn't have criminals, just one! The fact that South Africa has criminals or AKA was shot by a South Africans doesn't any way mean we must tolerate your crminality.. Seychelles has it's own criminals but still decided to ban Nigerians from entering their country, why? because you go to countries and amplify the criminal landscape in those e countries eg. South AFrica..
If an average South African has a criminal mind, I shudder to think what makes a Nigerian.. you're one nationality that is assumed to be criminals before you even open your filthy mouths.. Your legendary appalling reputation the world over stems purely from crime . Why do you think your passport is akin to toilet paper? why are you always deported? why are you regularly held up at airports? or bet yet show me one country that has banned SOuth Africans because of crime.
Sepukku: 1.Nigerians who commit criminal activities are far from innocent victims when it comes to anything. The day you hear me defending them is the day I leave Nairaland.
2. Please arrest and deport criminals from your society Nigerian or otherwise. Noone one here says you shouldn't
3. Please expel all black foreigners from your country whether they be economic migrants, legal residents or hard working naturalized citizens. They are infiltrating your societies and are going to cause the disapperance of the "Dlaminis" and the Motesepo surnames. 6 million versus 60 million is at overwhelming odds.
4. Please protect your borders from invading hordes of SADC members seeking employment and choking your economy and stealing resources reserved for your people.
SOUTH AFRICANS FIRST!!
How am I doing on accountability now, eh?
Stop complaining when we complain your people then? why does it hurt or make you uncomfortable? or deflect and call it "xenophobia"? lack of accountability
Disclaimer12: Take it or leave it, you're third citizen in your own so call country, the white come first, the coloured, then your lazy ass families , your new found passion now is trying to steal the Ethiopian spaza shops 😂, formulating lies and propaganda, you can't even run your immediate family, you think u can handle any business , I'll say again, you're fucking lazy
And here are the facts.. I by virtue of being a black South African already enjoy.. 1. A better standard of living (better amenities) 2. better healthcare 3. have access to superior tertiary learning 4. Have access to better infrastructure 5. Have access to better healthcare (free) 6. Have better access to better electricity 7. I'm from a country with the best economy and GDP 8. Have better access to water and sanitation 9. I'm from a country classified as UMI (Upper Middle Income) 10.. Beter looking women Can you even boast the same?
let's not forget who's flocking to who's country for a better life..
Disclaimer12: Show us who killed Senzo, show us who killed AKA, show us who are behind the Inkabis, go to any hostel if you have the balls, why do u have the highest gender based violence in the world? Why do u have one of the highest murder rate? Why do you have the highest rape case? Who are the ones behind "protection" levy, who are the ones behind the cash in transit heist? Your problem is a Zimbabwean stealing cell phones , or a crime only a crime when committed by another black person
here's the bottom line. stupid. We have your criminals running amok in our country.. with 0 South African criminals in Nigeria. You're making excuses for your criminality
BigIyanga: What an act of cowardice to call real masters like De Beers that owns and controls your diamond mines an imaginary master?? Openheimers are the richest family colonialists in Africa.. and they all made $$ from yours mines..Nope, they’re not your problems But a Somali cab driver or kiosk provision seller is a real threat to SAs… Your Stockholm Syndrome is incurable .
How is this different from your Kleptocratic government that is abusing your oil revenues, your officials having children enrolled in prestigious overseas schools, getting medical treatment in Geneva.. while your fools are busy drowning in oceans trying to flee abroad.. ? You're left with the distinction of being the capital of poverty? The worst of everything! worst infrastructure, literacy. healthcare, electricity. water and sanitation.. All those things are resevered for your leaders, their cronies and their families. Igwe sit down! you're the last dog to bark
Spin it how you see it... These are problematic A Nigerian drug dealer and scammer A Zimbabwean murderer and rapist A Mozambican carjacker and murders Pakistani home affairs scammers
Sepukku: You want me to start crying for you neh!.I am not accountable for Nigerians committing crimes in South Africa. YOUR GOVERNMENT IS!
They do not know how to enforce laws to tackle criminality in your country which is why you have drugs streaming in from Brazil at an alarming rate into your shores and these syndicates using Nigerians as middle men
Mail and wire fraud committed by Jewish syndicates, White Zimbabwean, Indian syndicates and your privately owned reserve banks funneling untaxed money out of your country that is depriving your gogos of that precious 350 rand stipend.
Face your ANC neh!
You're proving exactly my point, blaming everyone else including other south African government except yourselves.. You're always these innocent victims despite your predisposition to crime being the stuff of legends. You never take accountability
Sepukku: How so. I did not challenge, avoid or obscure the assertion of delinquency and crime committed by "foreigners". I merely advanced the argument by adding my findings to its premise.
Saying all the chaos of you people is" in our heads" is automatically absolving yourselves from accountability.. think you're smart
You served nothing but showed that South Africa has its criminals, which is hardly a revelation. You think you're cooking but you're stating the obvious.. I'd ; like to see South African criminals raping, scamming, car-jacking , traffikcing people in Nigeria
Are you Nigerians this stupid or what? Showing South African criminals in South Africa proves what exactly? Does having criminals mean we must accept murderers from Zim or drug dealers from Nigeria? So because America has gun-violence it must accept cartel violence from Mexico? This is literally what you fools do best. deflection and protecting criminality.. No country tolerates foreign criminals, we're not gonna be the first ones. Are South Africans proving a criminal menace in Nigeria? No! so why m,just we tolerate foreign delinquents?
Sepukku: He will comeback with well it's us committing crime in our own country so leave us alone to commit crime on ourselves. Do we go to other people's country to commit crime?
I really hope they drive most the foreigners out of their country. I would love to see what the aftermath would look like and if I were a betting man it likely will stay exactly the same.
whether it stays the same or doesn't it, doesn't change the fact that we harbour your deliquenmts and criminals.. no amount of sugarcoating will change this..
Disclaimer12: 😂 You're fucking lazy, your laziness is legendary, the whole world knows this , calling a Nigerian peanut brain shows how shallow minded u are, you can't engage an average Nigerian in an intellectual debate lol! Did I hear u say imaginary master ? Like really? Lol! Why don't u ask yourself why you were kept as slave till 1994? When all African countries already fought for freedom, it takes efforts of other countries to rescue u from the apartheid, now you're fighting for a country u never built , clown! Every single thing in SA were built by the white , go to your township and location and imagine how your country would have looked like without the white your master ! You'll cry till they Kingdom come, Nigerians will come to your land with a single bag and leave with as much fortunes as he desires including your girlfriend , get your lazy ass up and work, ordinary Bolt and Uber are dominated by foreigner in your country, because you'll rather buy Polo on credit and go 🤣 crazy, multiple baby mamas without any good income , Lesotho are even taking over your mines 😂, Lazy bunch of people
LOL, Fucking "lazy" and yet our GDP (goods and services produced) is the biggest in Africa? who tf produces those goods and services? lazy people? We are an upper-middle-income country, and you're a lower-income one? lazy people much? We have a higher GDP per capita than you, fools meaning an average South African has more bucks to spend than an average Nigerian, no wonder you're the undisputed capital of poverty.. We have the highest tax collection revenue in Africa, you have one of the world's lowest one to tax since you lots are dirt poor.! Where do the highest number of black dollar millionaires reside? Johannesburg, South Africa,, you peanut brains have nothing on except for japa, jealousy and big mouths..
Whenever a Nigerian coon talks about "whites" the words "masters" are sure to follow, why? it's projection.. white people are YOUR masters, that's literally how you see white people. you're obsessed and fascinated with them.that is why you idiots are known for cooning to the white man and your worship for him.. last time I checked, you were capsizing in boats all over the oceans trying to make your way to the same white countries..show me one SOuth AFrican drowning in the Mediterranean en route to Spain I'll wait
actually, if slavery means.... a better standard of living than you better literacy better GDP and GDP per capita better electricity better water and sanitation better infrastructure better healthcare
by all means ill definitely take being a "slave" than being a Nigerian Your people are applying for asylum in South Africa right now, despite Nigeria not being in a war..says a lot about your desperation
If black South Africans never as much laid a brick to the development of their own country Im wondering who's responsible for the development and infrastructure boom post 94..? Aliens..? We've leapfrogged you in just 30 years despite getting your independence in the 60's ..you've been stagnant ever since.. you fall short of everything we've achieved since our democracy..where are your universities, airports? hospitals, roads, etc that rival those built post 94?
Disclaimer12: Just as expected you lots never disappoint, everyone else are your headache but your master who still have possession of over 80%of your land and economy, there's no way you can defend south Africa without looking dumb, the entire population of foreigners in your country is less than 8% if your population, but yet they give you so much anger and frustration like foreigners only exists in your country 😂! Keep looking for people to blame for your ineptitude and your FAMOUS Laziness! The land belong to God, anyone can make living anywhere , no one stops u from going to seek better life anywhere else, but your cowardice, laziness , multiple baby mamas, booze and drugs won't allow u see the world beyond KZN and Gauteng! You'll keep fighting, migrants will keep making money and dominate u in front of your father's house ; Don't (
Typical nonsense. You're busy telling me about imaginary masters and I'm telling you about the real chaos and destruction y'all are causing.. South Africa is an Upper middle-income country boss.. it got there by blood and sweat of SOuth Africans ..what do you have to show with your lower-income failed states? You idiots. scream laziness on every turn but the only thing you coneheads are good at its running away from that zoo.. so shut it.. Showe me one African country with as much African population as south Africa I'll wait.. you know nothing about the problems South Africans face with illegal migration..you only have a big mouth and a peanut brain like a typical Nigerian