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walls01:
is it not what I was telling you in the beginning that the things of the spirit sound foolish to man natural thinking.

again whether a animal swallows or eat is it not literally the same as in feeding. you say to a woman has a baby eaten? do you say has the baby swallow his formula. think of this

Kikiki, well that is not where the question actually focused ... God said sand but in reality not sand but eggs and other preys

Wall01 what do you have to say about the above lie?

walls01:
that is so untrue. in fact you hardly know when a person lies. what seems like lie to you is true to someone else. it all depends on the level of consciousness

Well the level of consciousness I talking about is very low that even a 7 year old girl could tell...

Like this one

Genesis 3:14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.

But what Snakes really feed on

Snake eats the pupae, or eggs, of ants and centipedes. The largest snakes, the Pythons and Anacondas, have been known to eat, deer and pigs! Most snakes live off of insects, rodents, birds, eggs, fish, frogs, lizards and small mammals. All snakes swallow their food whole.

walls01:
exactly. something is not adding up. in the realms of the spirit every man know who is who. if you ask the native doctors, the occultic men and does that worship different gods they will explain better to you.
not this common sense of atheist that say what they don't understand saying common sense apply to everything physical

Well, I am not an atheist, I am just not buying the ideas of religions

walls01:
there goes the collapse of man's common sense guys like you brag about. I don't expect you to understand spiritual things at your level, I just pointing out to you the limit of man common sense

You can't know everything but you can understand when someone lie to you.

walls01:
yes physical. the universe is a physical body but the spiritual controls it

Yoruba belief about how the earth is found is differ from igbo - to hausa - China - Indian - Egypt - Arabic countries - Israel - They are all different believe so why do you think what bible said about the creation is the original?

walls01:
yes anything physical is under man understanding. now this physical universe what started it from common sense

Nobody Knows, It has be in existence before me, and no book has a clear proof of how it came into existence

walls01:
evolution did explain how the universe was thought to have started in his theory.
OK then using man common sense, how do you or what do men say about the beginning of the universe

I am talking of something physical but yet irrational

Check the below thread out

https://www.nairaland.com/3984372/excuse-heaven-god

walls01:
true, but common sense do not apply in spiritual matters. think of this with common sense, what happened in the beginning or before the beginning of the universe

We are not even talking about spiritual matters here.

walls01:
true, but common sense do not apply in spiritual matters. think of this with common sense, what happened in the beginning or before the beginning of the universe

So what did spirit say about the creation - Since it is from spirit I will take it to be perfect I'm listening

walls01:
even scientists don't know. do not act like man can reason everything with his brain

Yes but we have the brain power to reason when something does not go well with common sense

walls01:
how did the universe begin?

How do you expect me to know this when I am not a scientist? abi what?

walls01:
even your brain has limit it can reason. now reason this, in the beginning what happened?

In the beginning of what?

701ecilana:
That's why you have no business trying to insult Felix's intelligence. We know the passage he quoted to be far from corroborating each other. They are different incidents that it's really going to be very stupid for any sane person to make the claims he made in this thread.

How can he say at the point Jesus was 8days old and was taken for circumcision and dedication was when Jesus was hid in the Temple for 12years.
Does this kid know anything about the Jewish Temple and it's layout?

He needs to do a research on that.
Where did Jesus and his parents lived for that 12yrs? In the out Court, The Inner Chamber or the Holy of Holies? Kids run around talking stupid.


I know he is a kid with a smartphone who sees that atheists open threads and abandon them but gets on insulting Christians, notwithstanding, i decided to spend this time contributing here for the sake of the audience reading not even for him.

If you didn't call him to order, he'd ve gone off hauling insults on us, but it doesn't bother me, because in real life, he can't be my house help.
Good nite.

I guess you need to read this

andeemoore:
*Signs of Matured Christians*
✅ They speak the truth at all times
✅ They are good listeners
✅ They hardly take offense
✅ They are quick to forgive
✅ They are reliable
✅ They are supportive
✅ They have appetite for prayer and fasting
✅ They rely on the Word of God
✅ The more God lifts them up, the more they become humble
✅ They hardly defend themselves
✅ They are quick to repent
✅ They seek peace and pursue it
✅ They love people and they are compassionate
✅ They know when to talk and when to be quiet
✅ They are full of wisdom in many aspects of life
✅ They respect people and are very sensitive to people's feelings
✅ They have a lot of patience and they are not short tempered
✅ They fear God
✅ They give honour where it is due
✅ They are content with what they have
✅ They have good leadership skills
✅ They are hospitable
✅ They are not carried away by all kinds of teachings
✅ They are good followers
✅ They have a sacrificial spirit
✅ They don't gossip and look down on people
✅ They have faith
✅ They take part in church activities and attend church regularly
✅ They are clean in every aspect of life
✅ Their spirits are sensitive, they hate sin
✅ They don't act holier than others
✅ They don't compete with others

*Ask yourself: Am I a matured Christian?*�
May God give us the grace to identify and work on our weak areas.

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When I say you're a fish brain you thought I insulted you.. No, it is just the fact

benodic:
@ malvisguy212



and you need an open mind and an open heart. two very important ingredients for spiritual growth.

@ cyborg123



the Jews whom the old testament is about do not believe Jesus is the one the prophecy is about because so far as they are concerned their war mongering god will send them a general who will liberate them from the Romans and not someone who will ask them to turn the other cheek. The Catholic Church were the ones who gave those interpretations after choosing the books they want to make up the Bible.

@ achidisucre



ECKANKAR has its own Holy book called The Way of The Eternal.



ECKANKAR is a religion of its own. It is the path to Spiritual Freedom. The Religion of the Light and Sound of God. Light and Sound being the means through the Holy Spirit, the pure essence of God, manifests to Soul. example is the sound of the wind and the light that appeared as tongues of fire during the pentecost. Contact with the Holy Spirit leads you to all truth. ECKANKAR presents the truth as it is, removed from all social trappings, dogma, politics or traditional cultures and speaks directly to Soul which we all are.



We don't work with believe but rather with knowingness. we know that Jesus Christ is a Spiritual Master of the Christ Level of Consciousness and he is still very active in the inner planes ready to teach any Soul who have developed enough spiritual disciplines to meet with him in the inner worlds. Just like other Spiritual Masters.
The Spiritual Masters do not quarrel or compete amongst themselves to showcase who is greater than the other. only the ignorant followers who are under the influence of the ego do so. when you are able to move into the inner planes in full consciousness, you will see these things for yourself. and when you have experienced them, the arguments on who is right or wrong ends. you become a love driven soul and all you care for is to care for and love your fellow souls despite differences in race, language or religion. then your journey back to your true home in the abode of God truly begins.

Wow

She is right

I just must help and put this on the front page

bobowaja:
Matthew and Luke disagree

Matthew and Luke give two contradictory genealogies for Joseph (Matthew 1:2-17 and Luke 3:23-38). They cannot even agree on who the father of Joseph was. Church apologists try to eliminate this discrepancy by suggesting that the genealogy in Luke is actually Mary's, even though Luke says explicitly that it is Joseph's genealogy (Luke 3:23). Christians have had problems reconciling the two genealogies since at least the early fourth century. It was then that Eusebius, a "Church Father," wrote in his The History of the Church, "each believer has been only too eager to dilate at length on these passages."

THE ANGEL'S MESSAGE

In Matthew, the angel appears to Joseph in a dream and tells him that Mary's child will save his people from their sins. In Luke, the angel tells Mary that her son will be great, he will be called the Son of the Most High and will rule on David's throne forever. A short time later Mary tells Elizabeth that all generations will consider her (Mary) blessed because of the child that will be born to her.

If this were true, Mary and Joseph should have had the highest regard for their son. Instead, we read in Mark 3:20-21 that Jesus' family tried to take custody of him because they thought he had lost his mind. And later, in Mark 6:4-6 Jesus complained that he received no honor among his own relatives and his own household.

JESUS AND JOHN THE BAPTIST

A. WHAT DID JOHN THE BAPTIST KNOW ABOUT JESUS AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?

John's first encounter with Jesus was while both of them were still in their mothers' wombs, at which time John, apparently recognizing his Saviour, leaped for joy (Luke 1:44). Much later, while John is baptizing, he refers to Jesus as "the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world", and "the Son of God" (John 1:29,36). Later still, John is thrown in prison from which he does not return alive. John's definite knowledge of Jesus as the son of God and saviour of the world is explicitly contradicted by Luke 7:18-23 in which the imprisoned John sends two of his disciples to ask Jesus, "Are you the one who is coming, or do we look for someone else?"

B. WHY DID JOHN BAPTIZE JESUS?

John baptized for repentance (Matthew 3:11). Since Jesus was supposedly without sin, he had nothing to repent of. The fact that he was baptized by John has always been an embarrassment to the church. The gospels offer no explanation for Jesus' baptism, apart from the meaningless explanation given in Matthew 3:14-15 "to fulfill all righteousness." Other passages, which indicate that Jesus did not consider himself sinless, are also an embarrassment to the church (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19).

Luke, who claims to be chronological (Luke 1:3), tries to give the impression that John did not baptize Jesus. Luke's account of Jesus' baptism occurs after the account of John's imprisonment (Luke 3:20-21).

C. WHY DIDN'T JOHN THE BAPTIST BECOME A FOLLOWER OF JESUS?

If John knew that Jesus was the son of God, why didn't he become a disciple of Jesus? And why didn't all, or even most, of John's disciples become Jesus' disciples? Most of John's disciples remained loyal to him, even after his death, and a sect of his followers persisted for centuries.

The gospel writers were forced to include Jesus' baptism in their gospels so that they could play it down. They could not ignore it because John's followers and other Jews who knew of Jesus' baptism were using the fact of his baptism to challenge the idea that Jesus was the sinless son of God. The gospel writers went to great pains to invent events that showed John as being subordinate to Jesus.


JUDAS ISCARIOT

It is very unclear in the gospels just what Judas Iscariot's betrayal consisted of, probably because there was absolutely no need for a betrayal. Jesus could have been arrested any number of times without the general populace knowing about it. It would have been simple to keep tabs on his whereabouts. The religious authorities did not need a betrayal - only the gospel writers needed a betrayal, so that a few more "prophecies" could be fulfilled. The whole episode is pure fiction - and, as might be expected, it is riddled with contradictions.

1. The prophecy

Matthew says that Judas' payment and death were prophesied by Jeremiah, and then he quotes Zechariah 11:12-13 as proof!

2. Thirty pieces of silver

According to Matthew 26:15, the chief priests "weighed out thirty pieces of silver" to give to Judas. There are two things wrong with this:

a. There were no "pieces of silver" used as currency in Jesus' time - they had gone out of circulation about 300 years before.

b. In Jesus' time, minted coins were used - currency was not "weighed out."

By using phrases that made sense in Zechariah's time but not in Jesus' time Matthew once again gives away the fact that he creates events in his gospel to match "prophecies" he finds in the Old Testament.

3. Who bought the Field of Blood?

a. In Matthew 27:7 the chief priests buy the field.

b. In Acts 1:18 Judas buys the field.

4. How did Judas die?

a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.

b. In Acts 1:18 he bursts open and his insides spill out.

c. According to the apostle Paul, neither of the above is true. Paul says Jesus appeared to "the twelve" after his resurrection. Mark 14:20 makes it clear that Judas was one of the twelve.

In Matthew 19:28, Jesus tells the twelve disciples, including Judas, that when Jesus rules from his throne, they will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

5. How did the Field of Blood get its name?

a. Matthew says because it was purchased with blood money (Matthew 27:6-.

b. Acts says because of the bloody mess caused by Judas' bursting open (Acts 1:18-19).

What a break down!

Babalawos:
Aboru Aboye

You should consult IFA first to know your Ori.

If Orunmila is one of your Orisas that came with you to earth, then IFA mysteries becomes very easy for you to understand.

There are two ways of learning IFA.

First is by apprenticeship which is the traditional way of learning IFA mysteries. It is free, you dont pay money for apprenticeship but you pay with your years of staying in the shrine and learning IFA. Years of IFA apprenticeship ranges from 5 years to 21 years before initiation.

The second way of learning IFA is by paying for IFA training manuals and even at that you still need a renowned babalawo to put you through because IFA is 100% practical and not everything you can find in IFA books like your Ojugbona blessing you with his own ase after serving him well, your Ojugbona taking you to different astral realms, spiritual kingdoms, covens... for introduction, your Ojugbona teaching you how to prepare Esu water which you can never find in any book online or offline.

ATR is very broad

Thank you for reading, leave a comment

Babalawos

Hmmm, IFA is really broad o... 5 to 21 years of study will be impossible

ogashman:
lol....if they offer all those services then members would Go home worse than they were wen they came

I tire o

Beyhiodie:
hmmmmmm

Hmmmmmmm

Babalawos:
Yes I am serious

Please I want to learn this IFA

maybe

Bridgetania:
let me just state it here and now..if u all like quote me..but na una business be that..
I believe the bible and will continue to believe the bible..whether everyone on NL becomes atheist....
Its my belief..my problem.my mind..
If u dont believe the bible..fine...ur business!...but i will continue praying for u...
Do have a lovely day and night ....

well thanks.

701ecilana:
That's why you have no business trying to insult Felix's intelligence. We know the passage he quoted to be far from corroborating each other. They are different incidents that it's really going to be very stupid for any sane person to make the claims he made in this thread.

How can he say at the point Jesus was 8days old and was taken for circumcision and dedication was when Jesus was hid in the Temple for 12years.
Does this kid know anything about the Jewish Temple and it's layout?

He needs to do a research on that.
Where did Jesus and his parents lived for that 12yrs? In the out Court, The Inner Chamber or the Holy of Holies? Kids run around talking stupid.


I know he is a kid with a smartphone who sees that atheists open threads and abandon them but gets on insulting Christians, notwithstanding, i decided to spend this time contributing here for the sake of the audience reading not even for him.

If you didn't call him to order, he'd ve gone off hauling insults on us, but it doesn't bother me, because in real life, he can't be my house help.
Good nite.

See this girl sha, I can't and will never be your house help.

God provides for everybody so no quata

701ecilana:
It doesn't matter if you insult me, i know you'd do the same to your mom, so why shd i bother. But If you were my son, then, then i'd know what to do to you if you insult your elders.

Na who born monkey?

Well, I have apologized for insulting you. But instead you to respect yourself, no

But why will the bolded be said by someone who indirectly trying to say she is old enough to be my Mom?

and besides how can insulting someone on a faceless forum refers to insulting ones Mom.

If I respect you, you should respect yourself, peace.

He he he, this small small girls sha

Is this maturity?

or stupiduty?

Well don't come back here to insult your Daddy or else I will have no choice but to flog the demon out of you.

Claim you are older to be my Mummy and I will claim to be your ancestor

bobowaja:
I have no problem with whatever he said (I am indifferent towards the outcome whether true to false). The responsibility is on you guys to either refute or corroborate his claims.

I told you that I am an advocate of live and let's live. We can all coexist without forcing each other to our point of view

What a kindhearted and peace maker you are, God bless you bro

701ecilana:
Your reinforcement will fail you. You opened a thread you can't defend. You lifted two totally different incidents from the Bible yet with all the common sense you claim to have, you couldn't decipher that they are indeed different.

If as at when Christ was presented in the Temple for dedication and circumcision was when when King demanded the Male kids be killed, do you think Jesus would have survived inside the Temple in the Domain where King Herod was a king?

Your common sense did not tell you that as at when the Maggi came to Jerusalem looking for Jesus him and his parents weren't hiding yet.

Clap for yourself. You became an atheist so that you insult your elders.

I have schooled you enough.

You are waiting for reenforcement yeah? Keep waiting. The one who called us has ran away by the way. Enjoy your long wait.

... That is why I hate insulting people especially ladies... They show the pains a lot, sorry sis.

bobowaja:
I give it up

You are indeed beyond redemption as those atheist posit. Get well bro.
Good night and have a nice dream.

Oh thank you very much bro... You inspired me... Good Night and sweet dreams.

felixomor:
I thought u said u had gone....
Mscheww, yeye

Quote where I said that

Seriously the problem with felixomor is now clear

He tends to mistook God to Religion
As he did mistook typos free text to intelligence.