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Hi All,


A hear.  A go do am for ona.  A still dey wait for Aiijay.


AIIJAY

Na wetin be your e-mail address?  Dat na de ting wey a dey take koni koni dey ask you for long time.  Now you don make me ask you openly, make dem bad bele pipu hear!  You think sey na only our pipu dey here?  How you fit ask person help you but you no give am your e-mail address?  Why you forget dat one sef? 

How person for post letter go Sokoto when de letter sef e no get address?  You don hear dat tori before?  Make you write am like Peetah. 

A still dey wait for you.



kiwi992.

NB:

Dayo, a beg me a no understand de Hausa wey you nak dere.  Me a be Kalabari.

Hi,



AIIJAY

E bee lyke sey u no dey heer de ting wey a dey tok.  Man wan helep awa sista but haw him fit send leta go Sokoto, de leta sef e no get address? Ey? De leta e no go loss for road? Peetah wey dey for Port sef don no de ting wey a dey tok. See as him tok pa him own. A wan post de leta fo una. Na u a dey weyt.

Eef u wan mkae peson com yua ile, yoo no go gee am address?  Wetin dey do you?  Wy you no dey fit take koni koni heea de ting wey a dey tok?  A bi u wan mkae a kol de nmae 4 yoo?  A tire sef!


AGNELLA

Mkae u dey nak brokin if u be 9ja.  A don tok u sey ee dey dere.


DAYO

A go luk propa propa kom tok yoo afta.
Dayo, e be like sey Aiijay no dey folo de ting wey a dey tok.  De omoge dey tink sey a no wan helep am.  A beg mkae u tok am for me - de ting wey shee for do ef shee wan helep. 



kiwi992.

Killahut,


Thanks for the input. 

I don't know as to whether you are a Kalabari or an Ijaw per se but I think there's too much of a leaning towards the Ijaws in your narration of Kalabari history.  It seems as though you are narrating it from the point of view of an Ijaw person - i.e. giving it an Ijaw perspective, if you see what I mean.

I say this because we, as Kalabari people, have never seen ourselves as Ijaws (although grouped by the colonialists as belonging to the Ijaw tribe).  The typical Ijaw towns (Nembe, Brass, Yenagoa, Sangama and so on) are much too far away from Kalabari kingdom, almost nearer to Warri and Sapele in the Mid-West than to the Kalabari towns and villages or indeed, Okrika, Bonny or Opobo.  Hope you get my point and not take offence at it 'cos any Kalabari would tell you that.

Having said that, I would say that you've shed some light on this, some things about which I'm either not aware, not taught, or have totally forgotten, being that I have been away from Nigeria for most of my life - 34 years to be precise and have never been home in all of those years!

As a primary school kid in BAKANA, I can't ever remember our being told about the existence of 'canoe houses' before the Portuguese came on the scene.  I can but, only go by the history of the Kalabari people as we were taught in primary school, and as narrated to us by the elders of the town. 

Still, you and I are not quite far-off in our narration of Kalabari history.  In saying that, I'm from Iyalla's compound in Bakana so do know that Fouche is Ifoko - a part of Bakana and not too far away from Iyalla polo.   

As I said before, I don't quite get the Ijaw part of your narrative, as we Kalabaris don't see ourselves as Ijaws.  Neither do I agree with you on the bit about Ibani, the Kalabari language, or the part about the other Kalabari towns not having moved from Elem Ama, amongst very many other points raised in your write-up.  Albeit, a good account of Kalabari history, I must say.

Understandably, none of us was present at the time the history of the Kalabari people was being made, that many hundreds of years ago, to give a witness account of what went on, hence must be most careful not to sound pedantic as if the one were present at the time.

I do know however, that Okrika and Kalabari have an almost identical language and fought so many wars in the olden days.  I never knew either that Ibani (Bonny) and Kalabari languages are similar!!  Surely, Kalabari language is NEVER similar to Ibani, or is it?  Never heard, never been told that, either.  In saying that, there was a guy from Bonny that lived in West Bromwich.  He dated my cousin and I can swear that he never sounded like a Kalabari whenever he spoke to me.  Never!  Okrika, most definitely yes but not Ibani (Bonny), as you seem to imply.  Maybe there's a mix-up here.    

Iyalla is the Kalabari name of my family whereas, the Europeans addressed us as 'Yellowe' in view of the skin-tone of my late forefathers.  Thus the name Yellowe is exactly the same as Iyalla and my family members bear either of those two names.  I'm a direct descendant of the Iyallas, as my dad, the late Dr C.I. Berepiki was the last born of Ine, daughter of Paramount Chief Iyalla.  My late uncle, Chief Vincent Yellowe was the chief of Iyalla's compound in Bakana, at the time I was at home.  I know for sure that the Iyalla family originates from Tombia (we have Iyalla's compound in Tombia even now), but not the Ibani Clan bit from which Tombia originates, according to you.  I also know that Paramount Chief Iyalla founded Bakana and handed over the ruling of the town to his cousin - Chief Braide, as he was the elder of the two.  I don't ever remember being told in primary school history class (or by the elders, when I was a kid at home), that Bakana fought against Elem Ama (Elem Kalabari) - whatever for?  However, I do know that Paramount Chief Iyalla and his people were the first to move from Elem Kalabari to found Bakana.

There are some other key points in your narrative about which I totally disagree and beg to differ because I don't live at home and so can not verify the facts from our elders.  That said, I'll never give credence to the history of the Kalabari people as written by the European colonialists other than one by the English anthropologist and crowned Kalabari chief -  Chief Dr Hutton of Buguma.  I guess he is still alive and living amongst his fellow-Kalabaris, even though a white man.

Maybe a Kalabari that lives at home, and is well-up on our history would come in here to add their piece to this discussion.  I would really want to have a third opinion on this.

Kalabari people, where are you?  Come in please.




kiwi992.
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Hi All,


E be lyk sey bad bele pipu de na ere.  Dem oluku pipu, so a go dey try nak brokin.

Ona wey a don shoa de domot, shey bi ona don gowe ncide de ile?  A-bin cnd ona peypar.  Ona fo dey luk fo ona ting wey ona geav de bobo. 


TALIBAN

Omo, u4 dey reed ull de ting wey a don ryte.  Mkae u reed am gon gon.  Dem dey dere.  Dis ur oruko-e sef na wa!  LOL!!


CHUK

E no mata, a dey doo am 4 9ja.  A beg mkae u tank God/Allah, nobi mee.


AIIJAY

U sef!  Na wa o!  Hau mi a fo no de domot wey yuuar ile dey wen yuu no gee am pa ere. 


AGNELA

Mayk yoo dey rede de ting wey a don tok tok beefo.  E dey dere.  A tire fo dey tok tok de ting wey a don tok tok beefo.  A beg!



kiwi992.
_{Nigerian jobs for Nigerians}

Sod off, you bitch! 


Get your arse out of here.

You are NOT welcome in a Nigerian Forum.  INDIANS AND AUSTRALIANS ARE THE WORST FOR RACISM IN THIS WORLD.  What on earth are you doing here?  Chasing after money, money, money!

Just remember, we Nigerians could easily wrap our little fingers round you when it comes to intelligence.  What can an Indian teach a Nigerian except speak a bit of English, add lots of Hindi to it and shake head!  Totally incomprehensible when they talk to you in a training class.  Fools!

I've been to your over-populated racist country and I know what you lot are like.  I even made it possible for one of your lot to leave that shit hole of yours called India, to come and live in the UK.

Any wonder why Idi Amin kicked out you dirty, garlic-smelling fools out of his country?

Sod off!



kiwi992.
_{Nigerian jobs for Nigerians}

Hey You Vaishali,



You better get the hell out of this Forum.  You bloody Indian bitch!

You lot are nothing but racist pigs, selfish, crooked and always chasing after money.  Such greedy lot!  You are NOT welcome in a Nigerian Forum, so get lost!  Okay?  A Nigerian Forum for Nigerians and friends of Nigeria.  Understand?  When did you Indians become friends of Nigeria? 

Just remember, we NIGERIANS are a million times smarter than you pumpkin heads and always willing to help each other for FREE, whilst you are here to SELL your crappy services for money!  How so typical of you fuckers. 

You suffer the most racism in the West (worst than black people), yet you discriminate against others simply on account of the colour of their skin.  Any wonder as to why Idi Amin kicked you lot out of Uganda?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN A NIGERIAN FORUM?  You Indians and the Australians are the worst in this world for racism.  You stink.

Piss off!



kiwi992.

Hi Nna,



You're on! 

Just three more Nigerians to go by Saturday at the latest, for me to sponsor on this batch.

Please be patient.



kiwi992.
_{Nigerian jobs for Nigerians}

Dayo,


You are on!

I just need four more people for this batch by Saturday at the very latest.  Thing is that I don't want to sponsor separate individuals, hence prefer to do it in batches of five.

Please be patient.



kiwi992.

Hey Guys,


You must prove to me that you are Nigerian - MUST!  Read my posting above, on this.  If not, don't bother 'cos I'm NOT interested in sponsoring anybody that's not Nigerian.

By the way, merely giving you the link is no use.  You would need to be invited by a member before you can get registered on that website. 

Once you prove your Nigerian nationality to me, I'll sponsor you but definitely won't be anybody's mentor.

Hope you understand.



kiwi992.

^{Nigerian jobs for Nigerians}


NB:

Ten more NIGERIANS to sponsor (in batches of five) and that's it.  No more!

Listen You Lot,


Port Harcourt does NOT belong to the Ibos.  Okay?  Comprende?  It belongs to the decent Ikwerre people.  The Ikwerres are NOT Ibos either.  Why lay a claim to the Ikwerres if those people are constantly rejecting your claims?  Leave it, okay, enough is enough!

You guys can but only create resentment amongst other Nigerians in view of the way you've chosen to carry on with yourselves.  What's all this feeling of superiority? - the BIG CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDERS, I mean.  Why oh why?  I don't suppose you are suffering from some kind of complex or are you?  I hope not 'cos we are all Nigerians.     

I wish to God that you guys would STOP claiming all things and everything.  People have been bombarded in this Forum with Ibo claims of this and that, such as: 

Ibos are the descendants of the Jews
Ibos are the descendants of the Ethiopians
Ibos are the descendants of the Sudanese
Ibos are the only fair-skinned tribe in Nigeria
Ibos are the most friendly tribe in Nigeria
Ibos are the most educated in Nigeria
Ibos are highly aspiring
Ibos are the businessmen and women of Nigeria
Ibos own Kwale
Ibos own Port Harcourt
The Ikwerres are Ibos
Ibos built pyramids
Ibos this Ibos that, the list goes on and on!  I really get sick of all this. 

Why don't you lot find something better to do with yourselves instead of all this cheap talk?  Why don't you just be proud of who you are and capitalise on your strengths and just carry on with your daily lives?  Why don't you?  Why the air of superiorty?  Why the chip on your shoulders?  Why?

You talk about education, I haven't yet seen anything useful that you guys have contributed to the betterment of this Forum in terms of education, except politics and culture. 

Nobody has really said anything extremely bad about you Ibos - and many examples abound.  I have spoken out on so many occassions in defence of you lot in this Forum even though I'm not Ibo.   

What I'm saying is that I don't dislike you BUT I'm sick to the back teeth as to how you guys have chosen to carry on with yourselves.  As you can see in all my postings, I have tried to be as objective as possible by calling a spade a spade and not try to knock anybody simply on account of the one's tribal grouping. 

PLease STOP this carry on and be proud of who you are.  Be proud of being a Nigerian or Biafran if that makes you happy. 



kiwi992.

Mate,


I'm really sorry but I'm ONLY interested in helping fellow-Nigerians.

If you are one of us, please tell us which part of Nigeria you are from and write something here, in your native tongue, then tell us what it means and ask someone to please confirm it.  Once I'm satisfied that you are one of us, I'd be more than happy to help you.  If not, don't bother. 

Sorry about that.



kiwi992.

Hi Gold,


You're alright.  No probs.  Good luck in your quest.



kiwi992.

Hi,


Done.  Please check your e-mail.



kiwi992.

Hi Rita,



You're alright.  No probs.

We are all Nigerians and should be there for each other in times like these.  Oh yeah, to the other ladies, please don't argue 'cos Rita isn't going anywhere near an Indian for a husband.

My apologies to the Indians lurking in this Forum.  However, I've got to speak my mind.  You know very well that you lot are all bloody RACISTS.  Please go and find your own Indian woman to marry.  You hate everybody, including the mixed-raced Indians in your country, whites, blacks and almost every other race in this world except yourselves.

By the way, anybody that comes in here to criticise me for what I've just said, do remember that I have been to India and so, do have a first-hand experience of what's going on in that part of the world.

Oh yeah, my first teacher in elementary school whilst in Nigeria was a Ghujurat (Mr Adikhari).  I've studied with Asians (Indians, Pakistani and Bangladeshis) over here in the UK and in India, I eat in Asian restaurants almost everyday ('cos I'm too lazy to cook!) - I like karai ghosh, pilau rice and roti.  I've also dated two Asian girls, lived in Asian digs, in addition to having countless Asian friends. My mechanic is Asian as well.  So, I'm speaking from experience. 

Vishi, I know you are here, stalking me.  I told you why I wouldn't wish to marry you.  I guess you do remember now, just in case you've forgotten it.  Hope you've found yourself an Indian husband by now.   



kiwi992.

Hi,


You need to register first, then logon and start downloading.


kiwi992.

NB:

Wao, you're alright. No probs.

Hi,


Thanks. Hope we've all learnt something new. 



kiwi992.

Hi,


Done.


kiwi992.

Hi All,



Request obliged.

Goodluck to all of you:

golterp@gmail.com, sheyiontop@yahoo.com, olusap@ymail.com, shonolaku@yahoo.co.uk, obascular@yahoo.com

Please read the e-mail from the nickname 'Peter Harrison' and don't delete it, thinking it is spam. Any problem, please let me know.



kiwi992.

Hi Ow11,


Tell you the truth, I thought the write-up was much too long so I didn't bother to read all of it.  I decided to skim through the rest, after noticing a significant error under 'SETTING'.  There, the writer mentions 'canoe house'. 

Be rest assured that there is no such thing as a 'canoe house' in Kalabari kingdom.  Most definitely not!  Take it from me - I originate from Bakana and if I don't know my own history then I might as well give up and not bother knowing anything about other people and their cultures.

Any Kalabari would tell you that we have family compounds (polo).  Such compounds as Princewill polo, Erekeosima polo (Buguma) Bob Manuel polo, Briggs polo (Abonnema), Iyalla (Yellowe) polo, Braide polo, Davies polo (Bakana), and so on, in all the thirty three towns and villages that make up Kalabari kingdom.  Those are NOT 'canoe houses' as the writer seemed to imply.  Surely, they are compounds, stupid!  What a plonker - he's got his history mixed-up!

The compounds are a grouping of related family members, their wives (both Kalabari and non-Kalabari), subjects, workers, ex-slaves (who got automatically assimilated into the Kalabari society through various native ceremonies and change of name to a Kalabari one) - by the way we don't call anybody a 'slave' (omoni bo), never!  It is a derogatory term in Kalabari society.

In ancient times, each compound in every town was required, in times of war, to bring forth an armada of boats (omu aru), armed with canons (kurusu), guns (alagba), gun powder and so on.  By the way, we got our arms and ammunition from the Europeans as a result of trading with them, being that the peoples of the Niger Delta were the first to come in contact with them.  The boats in the armada were usually manned by strong and fearless male warriors.  Each warrior wore a bandana on his forehead, with a white feather stuck through the bandana, immediately above his right ear.  The warriors rowed the boats frantically but in a synchronised manner, accompanied by a frenzied beating of the traditional drums (akwa) as well as other musical instruments such as nkuro, kuku, and so on.  The atmosphere in the boat was highly charged, the warriors all hyped up, and fearless of death because they were going to war inorder to protect the Kalabari kingdom.   At the helm of the armada was the coxswain (pronounced 'kok-sin') - or 'commodore' in modern military terms.  He was the one in-charge of his own armada of war boats, their steering and direction.  He was the one who would be standing up all the while in the leading boat, and pouring incantation into the river with the local gin (akamiri) and calling out the names of our ancestors, the water spirits, as well as the goddess of the Kalabari people (Awomine Akaso - a female whose shrine still stands today in Elem Kalabari, otherwise known as Elem Ama) and so on, for safety and protection.  Each boat in the armada had buntings and raffia dorned all over it and most of all, flew the flag of its compound to signify its origin. 

The armada was a common war effort by every compound making up a Kalabari town or village, inorder to maintain the integrity of the Kalabari kingdom i.e. to protect its people, land and rivers as well as fight its enemies.  If an aggressor attacked a Kalabari town or village, that meant that the one attacked ALL of the Kalabari towns and villages and would be faced by the combined Kalabari forces.

The war boats would usually rendezvous at strategic points along the banks of the various rivers in Kalabari - for example along the New Calabar River (Bakana), River Sombreiro (Abonnema), Asari Toru (Buguma), the rivers in Tombia, Elem Kalabari, Kula (which is right at the tip of the Atlantic Ocean), Ke, Degema, Obuama (Harry's Town) and so on.

Having an armada was a necessity for us because Elem Kalabari (Old Kalabari) was frequently attacked by its neighbours in ancient times.  It was for this reason that the Kalabari chiefs took the strategic decision to split Elem Kalabari into three main towns and thirty smaller towns and villages, so as to re-locate the Kalabari people in various key areas of the Niger Delta, inorder to forestall any attack from unfriendly neighbours and Europeans invading from the sea.  This was a movement of the Kalabari people, many hundreds of years ago and long before the slave trade ever started, with Paramount Chief Iyalla (Pina Pina Inai), his chiefs and people moving first, to found Bakana, then Abonnema and lastly Buguma (the capital of Kalabari kingdom and where the ama nyana bo - king, resides), followed by the rest of the towns and villages.  Good thinking on their part if, you ask me.

The boats never ever, formed the basis of a family unit - what the writer calls 'canoe house'  I'm most surprised that the writer, a Kalabari, doesn't know that!  Any Kalabari child would tell you that.

If you look at Google Earth or a map of the Rivers/Bayelsa States, you would see the strategic location of the various Kalabari towns and villages.  An example being Bakana, located nearest to Port Harcourt, to forestall any attack from Okrika, Bonny and Opobo, then Buguma - located where it is, to forestall any attack coming from Iwo Fe and sorrounding areas (the Ikwerres never waged any war against the Kalabari people in the olden days, so we never saw them as a threat, still we had to be prepared, just in case), whilst Abonnema was strategically located to fend off any attack from the Ijaws (Nembe, Brass and so on).  So are the other towns and villages - Tombia, Kula (to ward off any attack coming from the Atlantic Ocean, UNTIL help arrived from all the other Kalabari towns and villages.

The Ibos never waged any war against the Kalabari people in the olden days because that would have meant their having to cross the rivers to invade us, which they couldn't, simply because they are an upland people that didn't know the topology of the riverine area or indeed, how to swim, for that matter.  Rather, we waged wars against them (sadly), for our own selfish reasons, mainly to fuel the slave trade.  They still hate us up 'til today for that and I don't blame them for it. 

In view of our first contact with the Europeans, we (the peoples of the Niger Delta) were the first to trade with the rest of the world as well as being heavily involved in the shameful slave trade.  In Kalabari, we have a collection of traditional clothing called 'india', 'madras' 'njiri', jewellery, artifacts and so on, that were procured as a result of this.  These are never sold, instead, they remain in the family heirloom and have done so for centuries.  They are used to dress up the bed on which the departed is laid (only if the one died very old as opposed to dying young), and such special occasions as weddings, to dress up a woman on her emergence from the fattening room (iria) and so on.

Going by the names of some of our traditional clothings as mentioned above, I'm of the strong opinion that the Kalabari people must have had strong trading links with the Indians in the olden days.  Other than that, I couldn't figure out as to how traditional clothings that are centuries old could have been given Indian names by our forefathers.   

Talking about independence and self-reliance, I was taught to be independent by my dad at a very young age and that has helped me a lot in my adulthood.  If that runs through the Kalabari people, then that's all well and good.  However, I can not vouch for the rest 'cos I don't live at home.  One thing though, I know that the Kalabaris are a fiercely proud people.  Much too proud if you ask me and tend to look down on other neighbouring tribes.  That's surely something with which I don't agree, especially, after having faced racism living in the West.  The Kalabaris would never wish to do anything to tarnish the family name either.   

Lastly, I feel the writer made too complex a thing of the so-called 'counterfoil' choice scenario.  I didn't quite like his use of the word 'counterfoil' either.  There are much better words that would have clearly imparted the idea he was trying to convey.  Again, the scenario should have been made a lot simpler.  That said, I understand that he was writing from the Nigerian perspective and way of self-expression.  The rest of the discourse seems to be too long-winded for my liking.  Too much waffling, if you ask me and not straight to the point.  However, the facts are essentially true except the major error that I pointed out.

Oh yeah, the English anthropologist, Dr Hutton immersed himself in Kalabari culture and tradition and was made a Kalabari chief.  He spoke the language much better than most of us as kids whilst I was at home.  I remember that he used to call us up and correct our Kalabari grammar!  He actually wrote a book about the Kalabari language with a family member of mine - the late Dr C.I Berepiki.      



kiwi992.


NB:

Without wishing to stir up things and with all goodwill in the world, I honestly feel that the Federal Government of Nigeria should engage in genuine dialogue with MEND because, going by the history of the people there, they know the riverine area like they know the back of their palms, as shown here.  It would be nigh impossible to defeat them simply for that reason.  If anyone thinks that military action is the only solution to the problems there, then, the one needs to have the one's head examined.

The peoples of the Niger Delta have been fighting wars from time immemorial.  They had been engaged in wars with the European slave traders that came from the sea (under the pretext of Christianity), hostile neighbours, and so on.  It must be noted that we were never conquered by the European slave traders, despite their guns and ammunition.  Rather, we were their trading partners in the illicit trade involving human beings.  I can, but only attribute this military success to our sound military strategy.  That experience had taught us how to engage in a military theatre.  The military strategy that's involved in all of this is all too self-evident, even in this little write-up of mine.

Hope you can see my point because I don't condone violence of any sort.  Dialogue and fair play is what would win the hearts and minds of the peoples of the Niger Delta.

Now, lets get talking seriously and unite Nigeria once again.  Let's start re-building the country and cast out the corrupt politicians by throwing them to the sharks to feed upon.

Hi Rita,



TheBlessed has said it all.  Exactly what I'd been hinting at.  You can see even now that they want to use you.  Can you not see it? 

Na wetin?  You no dey hear?  A beg e do sef - e do!  Pipu don dey tell you but e be like sey you no wan listen.  Make e no be like sey na your death dey push you.  A beg make God no gree.

To say a be you, a for dey look for beta dudu wey be 9ija or oyibo.  Make you leave dem oluku (ode) pipu alone a beg!  Dem pipu wey go dey act like sey dem bi mumu all de time, dem too yanma yanma sef (ask any Hausa here for the meaning of that expression).  Dem too wayo and dem too worship owo.  Everything na owo.  Dem fit take juju sef put for your head go take you make owo.

A beg make you dey look for our pipu or oyibo.  Any dudu beta pass dem.  Oyibo dem beta pass oluku 100 times!  Oyibo dem sef no like de oluku pipu because dem know sey oluku pipu hate dem well well. Oluku society na nothing but hatred because you get different colour of skin from dem. The Hindu religion na about hating oda people wey get different colour of skin from dem. Dem wey dey hate oyibo yet na oyibo dem country wey dem dey live! Oluku life na hate oda races, play ojoro, and selfishness all de time. Dem so selfish, you nogo believe! Greed na him go kill dem. Everything na owo, hatred and selfishness. Wetin you tink sey make Idi Amin drive dem comot for him country? A be you never hear dat one before? Wey dem go dey shake dem head wen dem dey nak tori for you!   

Na only wen wata don pass garri de oluku pipu go say dem be co-dakie (Ghanainan for dudu) - like when oyibo dey attack dem.  Oyibo no get time for dem at all, at all.  However, oyibo dem like dudu propa.  If na me, e go be 9ija, if not, na oyibo.  With oyibo, you go know where you stand pa (with) am - no mago mago!

Even de time wey a go for dem high commission wey dey for Birmingham, go take visa, de titi wey dey for domot dey hala to her friend sey 'him be 9ija', even though she dey see say a carry oyibo bukuru (although dem write where dem born me - Bakana for 9ija).  So, me a just turn round ask am 'so?', na him she shut up.  Dat one na him be de first sign for me.     

Me wey don go dem ile see as dem be propa propa, a no fit talk de ting wey a take my korokoro eye see.  Pipu wey no like de pikin wey dem titi and oyibo sef born (like Obama) na you dudu wey dem for like?  Wetin wey you tink sey make me a run from dat dem omoge?  You sef, na wetin dey do you?  E be like sey you no dey hear.  A beg make you run comot from am.

Anoda ting, if you don old pass 24 or you don sleep with bobo before, a guarantee you sey you no get chance for marry am.  Dem all dey look for virgin and small pikin to marry.  God punish dem!!  As  TheBlessed don talk, na you go pay the dowry for the bobo head.  Why titi for go pay dowry for bobo head?  No be so dem dey do am for 9ija abeg.  A bi you wan make him pipu treat you like boiboi?  If de dowry wey you pay no big, dat one sef na anoda ijogbon!  Na big kpalava be dat sef.  Dem fit drive you comot for the ile sef.  You for ask dat bobo why dem no dey want titi pikin for dem society.  Dat na because of de dowry ting, a dey tell you now.       

See now, Rita, you've made me speak pidgeon English.  The very first time in this Forum - just in case anyone thinks I'm not Nigerian.  I bloody am!

All the best Rita.




kiwi992.

Hi Rita,



As regards the Hindu religion, I don't know if you are aware that there are hundreds of gods and goddesses that the Hindus worship.  Some of them are for money, family, prosperity, protection, health and all what not.  Don't be surprised to find a shrine in the homes as well.

My friend (the Indian girl who wanted me to marry her) told me that she was going to bring her god into my house.  You wouldn't imagine how that freaked me out, considering that I'm a Christian.  Anyway, I reluctantly agreed to it but then told her that in that case, she would have to put it away in some corner of one of the bedrooms upstairs.

The Hindus are in the majority in India.  The Sikhs are seen by the Hindus as hard working but trouble makers.  The Moslems are hated by the Hindus.  The Christians are always killed by the Hindus.  A Christian church in New Delhi was burnt down whilst I was there. 

The Indians of a mixed-race are highly discriminated against by their fellow-Indians.  How so sad!  Do remember this.

The hotels are serviced by people with the darkest colour of skin.  If you are sqeamish about snakes then don't go to Madras.  There are lots of them there.

There are a lot more Christians in Kerala.  Oh yeah, and lots of fish too.  Goa is highly westernised because it is a holiday resort.  Agra - is where the Hindu Golden Temple is. 

A train journey from one part of India to another could take very many days and are jam-packed.  Avoid the trains if you do decide to go.

India is full of people.  People everywhere, you wouldn't believe your eyes.  You'd hardly be able to walk anywhere.  Oh yeah, and many motorbikes, autos, and Marutis (Suzuki cars) too.  People drive crazy there.  Don't be surprised to find people driving on the wrong side of the road.

However, the society is orderly.  You'd see lots of demos there and the police don't harm the people - they only use sticks to move the crowd on.  A truly democratic country that puts Nigeria to shame.

India is very hot.  I nearly passed out in the middle of the street due to the heat.  Don't drink the local water - always drink spring water such as Evian.  Take malaria tablets with you.  You need to go there with summer tops, pants (I didn't mean knickers), shorts, sunglasses and sandals.  Never buy any food from the roadside vendors either.  You'd come down with a runny stomach.   

Finally, be mindful that you don't get ripped-off in the shops.  I went to a shop in South-Ex, New Delhi, to buy a pair of shoes for myself.  The shop keeper tried to rip me off!  I was supposed to have bought a size nine.  I got back to my hotel room, tried it on but it wouldn't fit.  So, I took it back to the shop inorder to swap it for the right size.  The salesman climbed some stairs to get to the store room.  He then brought me a 'fresh' size nine pair.  I checked it and it was the same damn pair of shoes that I had just returned!  He climbed upstairs again with the shoes, got down and tried the same trick.  In the end, I got fed up with it all and asked for my money back.

Oh yeah, in March they have the 'holi' festival in India.  It's the time of year when an Indian girl could go up to a man and ask him to marry her.  So, many men like that festival.

I guess it's decision time for you now, isn't it?  Please think about it most carefully.



kiwi992.

Hi,


Sorry to hear about your plight.  An incestious relationship yes, silly mistake yes, but sadly, these things do happen.  You mustn't be villified.

My advice is not to tell your dad.  Never!  Your mum perhaps but definitely NOT your dad.  Best to confide in your best friend and ask her for moral support.

You could always get rid of the pregnancy if you wanted.  There are many ways to do it if it is not too late (twelve weeks, that is, I think).

There is a doctor called KatyEkiti in the medical forum.  Try and post your problem there to see what response you could get from her and other Nigerian doctors that are primarily based abroad (but not those in Nigeria) 'cos those at home would advice you against abortion and are far less-tolerant.

Don't worry too much about it 'cos there's always a solution to every problem.

Goodluck to you.




kiwi992.

Hi Rita,



The idea your intended wants you to stay with his mum is because that's the culture in India.  It would give his mum the opportunity to assess you as a potential daughter-in-law.  More like sussing you out, if you see what I mean.  Guaranteed, you won't go down well in her eyes as a possible wife to her only son, to think that there are at least 600 million Indian girls for him to pick as a wife, out of a population of 1.2 billion.

Just remember that you won't eat meat.  It'd all be vegetables.  I lost so much weight when I was in India such that my friends here noticed it.  One even asked as to whether I wasn't fed in India.   

Just be careful when you go to India, you hear?

Here's why:   

Whilst I was in New Delhi, the hotelier asked to take me to the River Ganges (about two hundred miles away), at midnight.  Oh yes, at midnight!  It was going to be three of us - him, his wife and I.  Being a seasoned traveller, I quickly got the idea and declined the offer. 

A few thoughts came into my mind: 

   1.  Why me?  (I was only a guest in their hotel for Christ's sake).
   2.  Why midnight?  (At this stage, alarm bells started ringing in my ears - boin, boin!).
   3.  Did he have an ulterior motive?  (He must have, putting two and two together) 
   4.  Maybe to offer me as a sacrifice to their god.  (That couldn't be too far from the truth)


Another example:

I boarded an 'auto' (Indian three-wheeler taxi) and asked to go to the training centre.  Guess what?  The taxi driver decided to head somewhere else, instead.  Knowing me, I immediately asked him to stop the taxi, he did and I just got out, swearing at him until people gathered round.  They then asked what the problem was, so, I told them and they were kind enough to order me another auto.

The question is - where was he trying to take me?

Ye another example:

I went to Uttah Pradesh (UP) - the next state to New Delhi, and I was told-off by other trainees for having gone there.  I was told that I could easily have been kidnapped 'cos it was a common occurrence there.

You make what you like of my experience.  The rest is up to you.




kiwi992.

Genovate,


Please STOP spamming this forum.  Okay? 

You've advertised your services here a few times.   Isn't that enough for you?  One got deleted by the moderators ('SAP Materials wanted' thread), yet you keep on coming here to advertise.  Why do you have to be so desperate in wanting to enrol Nigerians in your institution?  Have you already saturated the Indian market or what?

The fact that you've resorted to spamming shows how unprofessional you lot are, at Genovate. 

Buyer beware! 



kiwi992.

Hi,



Warning number two:

In India, there is the caste system.  The darker the colour of your skin, the lower down the social ladder you are.  Indians, especially the Hindus practise this.  Please don't forget.  I've been to their country and saw it all with my eyes.  Absolute disgrace if you ask me - an absolute disgrace. 

The parents of my Indian female friend agreed to my marrying their daughter.  My friend wanted me to marry her and so approached her parents about it and they agreed to it.  Sadly, I backed out of it after careful consideration.  I felt sad about it but I knew that I made the right decision.

The first word that I learnt while in India was 'kala' - meaning black.  I kept hearing that word everywhere that I went in New Delhi.  I then asked the hoteliers and so they told me what the word meant. 

In the UK, the Asians (strictly meaning Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis) suffer the most racism as compared with the blacks, yet they, the Asians would discriminate against you more than the whites.  If they ever see you with one of their girls, they would never stop staring at you.  I experienced this whilst going out with Azra who was Pakistani.  I finished the relationship 'cos I got sick of the stares.

Maybe he wants to marry you because he'd like to go and settle in Nigeria or he is after some paper.  Let one Asian into your village and his Indian family and friends would use all the tricks in the book to come and settle in Nigeria.  Trust me, I know the Asians very well 'cos I have many of them as friends.  I've lived in their houses as well, whilst living in student digs.

The Asians are very materialistic and the men are put under a lot of pressure by their family members.  You won't see his salary at the end of the month because it would go into the family coffers.  His parents would keep the money.  They are very crafty people as well.  They like to act daft but they aren't.

Oh yeah, you'll be treated like a slave or even worse.  The whole family would move in with you and you'll cook for everyone of them all the time. 

Hope I've not rained on your parade.  Sorry about that, if I have.  I was only trying to open your eyes to what the Asians are like.  Experience is the best teacher they say but you don't have to wait and experience it yourself.  Learn from others' experience.

You've been warned as a fellow-Nigerian. 




kiwi992.

Hi All,


I'm not Ishan but I'm a bit shocked to read this:

KB1:
I'm proud to be Ishan as well. By the way from what part of the nation are we from again, I kind of forgot?

Well friend, I'll tell you which part of Nigeria you are from, even though I'm a Kalabari (Niger Delta).  Going from memory as a kid whilst in Nigeria, I know that the people of Ishan come from the former Mid-West State.  Some of the Ishan towns are located very close to the North and indeed, very hilly - e.g Auchi, whilst one is located at the confluence of River Niger and River Benue (Agbede, I think).

The following are typical Ishan towns:

- Auchi
- Agbede
- Agenegbode
- Fugar
- Irua
- Jetu
- Uromi
- Ubiaja
- towns making up Owan Division

Please get to know your roots.  If a non-Ishan such as I, knows your roots as much as I do, then you should know it without even thinking about it.  By the way, Ishan is the name of the ethnic grouping as well as the language spoken there. 

That said, I used to know someone from Auchi who grew up in Nigeria before coming over here, yet claims he doesn't understand or speak Ishan.  Typical case of being in self-denial.  Bloody shameful, if you ask me.
 


kiwi992.

Hi All,


This is a great idea and thumbs up to the Nigerian head of state.

It's about time and all.  It makes me want to shed tears for my country, considering the level of corruption amongst politicians.  Bare-faced corruption that has made Nigeria a laughing stock of the whole world.  A country that no-one wishes to deal with, because of the level of corruption there.

I've always wondered as to why those robbing politicians hadn't been prosecuted just like it's done in other parts of the world, not knowing that they've got immunity from presecution.  What a bloody joke that!  What a joke!

Who on earth can be above the law?  Nobody but nobody but nobody.  It's about time that they faced the full force of the law because Nigeria has gone to the dogs with these acts of thievery on the part of its politicians.

The oil would soon run out and nothing concrete has been done with the revenue.  Just go to Dubai and see what they've done with their oil revenues, whilst the Nigerian politicians are busy lining up their own pockets.  It's a shame really.

I wish that this planned course action would come to fruition.  That would serve as a legacy to the current Nigerian President when his term of office comes to an end.  We just need to prove to the world that there are decent Nigerians in politics and that not all of them are corrupt.



kiwi992.

Hi Max,


Glad to hear about your musical talent.  Yes, flying and music are closely related due to the good co-ordination skills required in both of them. Try it. You'd be good at it.

You said:

Now, more that ever, I think I'd like to give flying one more chance.

If you live abroad and can afford the cost of the flying lessons, please consider it seriously.  Even if not for a career, then for leisure.  You can always hire a Cessna 172 or Piper PA-28 for around £110 an hour (dry) and take your friends up in the air. 

Good luck.



kiwi992.

Hi Briz,

Briz:
Hi kiwi992,

I got some simulation files on BASIS, but am not sure if dt is all i need.

and practicing in an environment, i don't know ao possible it is. because i just look at how it is been navigated in the simulation.

I don't hv authority to go to wher i want to.

How can u help in getting the software for BASIS.

I have that for SAP Business One, but i think i hv to connect to a Server to access it. don't know.

Plz help out.

Really sorry but I can't.  There's nothing else that I can do except to send you in the right direction which is what I've already done. 

Hope you understand.



kiwi992.


NB:

I won't be answering anymore question about SAP.  So, people, please don't get offended if I ignore future questions.  I think I've done my level best for my fellow-Nigerians.