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If that happens I trust PO
Nothing like unwritten o

It must be written in the stars!
Loud and clear

Chidibe212:
BAT is going to steal his cards in the SS
Obi is loved yes but Nigerian politics is dirty and not in the hands of the masses yet with Inec up there.
And we all know there is going to be lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer
So how will he be president?

You are entirely CORRECT!!! from the bolded above Including lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer of ADC

That's what I have been trying to make my fellow Obidients see without emotions. Obi cant be president with the bolded above.

BUT with Atiku or a strong Northerner Taking it from TINUBU, Obi can be President in 2031 as long as there's an agreement by ADC stakeholds to uphold Obi being President in 2031 after Atiku

Who else remembers when Reno as mad and clownish as he is was begging a certain group of people not to insult northerners?
Well the chicken has come home to roast.
Under 2wks
1. ADC happened
2. Strange but also familiar faces at the coalition unveiling
3. Wike can't sleep
4. Presidency did media space
5. Bwala on TV ranting
6.Bayo on TV ranting
7. APC announced media propaganda team
8. Boss : Tinubu didn't make PMB president!
9. Lauretta: BAT didn't even want PMB flagbearer!
10. Shettima: GEJ didn't even have powers to remove a councilor!

All is not well in the north friends of BAT!
5m/8m, damn!
Someone needs to go to daura and beg cos all is not well!

We I'm from NC (Benue) precisely so if coalition brings Atiku no prob
PO even sweeter!
That's one vote, there are other million people too that would think that way.

helinues:
Count NC out of where Atiku will get the votes from

Exactly but some of them are even anti north with their submissions as if they will borrow the needed million votes from Ghana!

PO cannot do it alone
If he could he would have started his party and not join the coalition
I believe he has seen it all
There's strong chance if at all PO will be flagbearer tambuwal may pair him but I still doubt if tambuwal can pull that needed weight

Chidibe212:
Yeah you are really right from your analysis.
Obi's votes will split BATS own if Obi is on the ballot under a different party that isn't ADC but this TINUBU will rig it very well now he is an incumbent and Obi will loose. So the best option is a coalition and the most best option is to front a Northerner FIRST against this TINUBU. The only big weight Northerner NOW is Atiku. This is what I am trying to make my fellow Obidients see without emotions but they tagged me anti Obidient.

I will prefer Obi not having a joint ticket or deputize Atiku but he should back/support Atiku in 2027. Then in 2031 Obi can have his chance as long as there's an agreement with all parties in ADC stakeholds because without an agreement the North will renege on it in 2031.

It's a hard pill for alot of people even for me too to swallow cos I literally did Permanent Voter card 2023 just because of PO

But with the way BAT and wike are behaving like emperors, we don't need an oracle to tell us how 2027 will be.
Only the north can go head to head...it is a necessary evil
That's what I strongly believe too especially since they literally gave him 5/8m and they're now fighting...

The south will still consider Obi even as Vice, forget the online sentiments of Obi or nothing
Most will still vote the joint ticket
It was done 2019, grassroot won't have problem voting it again!
South won't vote BAT ticket but they plan on rigging thoroughly, still it is poised to be split once obi is on the ticket.

Chidibe212:
So, don't you think the south will want to support a Southerner in 2027 to complete the 8 years?
I am not in particular about the South completing their 8 years. I am in particular about removing THIS TINUBU'S bad regime that have brought hardship across all tribes, regions and religions in Nigeria AND he will not do any better if he comes in Again in 2027. That man didn't say what he can do. He only said "It's My Turn" and we are seeing what his turn is doing. He has no plans. His policies are against the masses that are not as wealthy as the elites including politicians.

Anyway zoning talks aside, I think Obi has more chance of getting into aso rock if Atiku wins in 2027, there are so many reasons why. This is what I am talking about and I believe one of the reasons could be the ones I have been mentioning about. It's only a Northerner that can defeat this TINUBU and I have mentioned my reasons earlier

The fun fact is those numbers go a long way since they usually come as a "whole pack" and not pices like other regions produce.
This should be a political flex and advantage if used well to allign with other regions based on SE interest

By now SE leaders would have been doing alot to encourage more voter turn out over the years inorder to get more bargaining chip but what are they doing? Some of them are even contributing to more voter apathy in the region.
This will not go well in the future cos other regions won't come to deliver it at your doorstep and that's the truth.
This political class will not, you have to overwhelm them with something to gain anything.
And now that BAT has obviously started fire somewhere, there's an opportunity to exploit.
I hope SE handles it in the wisest way possible cos like me I'm from Benue, we need PO or at least someone better than BAT and PMB, it is tough in NC cos of mixed variation of interests so alot of people will actually want to see how SE handles this situation this time around.

You have to have cards to play the numbers game with them.

Chidibe212:
I wish @jmoore can see sense in what you just typed, I wish.

SouthEast on its own, we are very small when it comes to numbers compared to other regions

The agreement was actually a 4yr term arrangement for every single 6 geo zone until Obj started his greed and started 8yrs.
This explains why uptill now Atiku has continued to contest cos his region hasn't had presidency same as SE and NC

Obj hijacked it
Yardua happened and arrangements now became survival of the fittest.
This one of 8yr north and 8yr south is just APC brainwashing cos they know how Nigerians behave with ethnicity.
If not what stops the champions of operation southern turn from zoning to SE? Have you wondered why?
People are quick to jump at Atiku cos of this propaganda.
Did wike support PO in pdp 2023? Why? Why not declare support to the fellow southerner who zoning most favored? Instead wike said on TV PO cannot win.
He still wanted to contest knowing fully well SS has gotten presidency already but who is always shouting southern turn? Same wike and APC
Why? To give to same region in the south that has gotten 8yrs presidency and 8yrs vice presidency!

Fgs I don't understand why a lot of people don't see the whole picture
It stinks of hypocrisy!

Felabrity:
The zoning circle is every 8 years, which is a two tenure for every region, which is why you said earlier that the south will not have another opportunity again till 2039, meaning it will be a complete 8 years from 2031.

So, don't you think the south will want to support a Southerner in 2027 to complete the 8 years?


Anyway zoning talks aside, I think Obi has more chance of getting into aso rock if Atiku wins in 2027, there are so many reasons why.

Well I'm not Igbo so I don't understand the last statement sha but that's okay
Maybe I can put it in Trump's words...
PO doesn't have the cards!
BAT is going to steal his cards in the SS
He is loved yes but Nigerian politics is dirty and not in the hands of the masses yet with Inec up there.
And we all know there is going to be lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer
So how will he be president?
Can you explain?
Pls don't tell me Nigerians are tired of BAT cos suffer no deh tire Nigerians! Hunger can be there but you need something else like religion ethnicity to ginger Nigerians... just like some propaganda chiefs are shouting southern turn when in the end they will go to the south and give it to the person who had 8yrs OBJ and 8yrs Osinbanjo!

Chidibe212:
You said "As far as Election is Concerned" that's you trying to be inconsiderate in my own view. If by balancing the equation, it should go back to the North.

And if Obi doesn't do well in his First Tenure, I will clamour for his remove despite we are from the same state. We Igbos don't asslick that why you hear "Igbo e nwe Eze"

You are still playing like I said

This is not about who is suffering most!
If you were locked inside a room with a madman who doesn't even understand he is mad
Will you challenge the mad man to start fire and see who gets hurt the most?

In as much as some good sections of Nigeria is enlightened there are other areas where people don't understand and can't even make the best decisions for themselves collectively.
This is an abberation quite all right but the fun fact is this qouta constitute quite a very large demography of the whole country.
This is what the political class has been capitalizing on for decades.
If you don't understand what structure is, this is the grassroot structure they talk about. The ability to confuse and convince this large section of the demography who often decide to sell votes or vote stupidly or otherwise maybe religion etc and another fun fact is you can't disenfranchise them!
Have you wondered why no governor looses LG elections to opposition in their states? The rulling party always clears it...why? structure of rigging
This is where the numbers to use in Rigging come from.

So will you as a normal person decide to sit back and let their decisions bind on you and the entire country at large? And for how long?
If you understand what I just stated then you will also understand why the wrong leaders have always been elected.

They hold the power right now but this opportunity presents for a startegic takeover by leaders who can reform electoral system to suit more enlightened voterbase through either Atiku or PO
I strongly believe any of them will reform inec no doubt

jmoore:
Which region has the highest poverty rate?
Which region has the highest illiteracy rate?
Who is going backward?

You can't even see the picture at all.

Deh play Nigeria at large will still continue
Only SE will loose and by 2031 and 2035-2039 Nigeria would have gotten another PO from another region

You all should better support him now that pan Nigerians are happy with him
If you insist on him or no... your choice
It will be wise for SE to get along with this allignment with the north.
If you refuse this chance going forward, hmm chances will not be bright for SE
You can't live without working with other regions
Nigeria is big!
You negotiate with interest
Not deciding not to participate! That's childish

jmoore:
All these blackmail won't work. Southeast will not vote for Atiku.

In fact, if Obi doesn't win in 2027, SE will start boycotting future presidential elections..

That's BAT begging to be president

Well he's now in total control imagine the level rigging they're planning right now

Stakes are high seriously, and Obidients need to watch keenly and support PO with whatever decision he comes up with
PO knows best that's why he decided to join the coalition

Felabrity:
just so you know, Obi votes were reduced in almost every states

From Rivers to Delta to Bayelsa to Kaduna to Abuja to Edo to Lagos

Yet he won 12 states


Tinubu and Atiku governors foughted for also won 12 states each

That's the strategy and it's a bold one
SW and SS can give BAT if they want no problem as far as SE delivers block and north does too, no shaking
Infact that won't be the first scenario, BAT can't even have block either from SS or SW(maybe 60%)
Highest SS and North central will split and he will need more numbers that no other region outside that will give him
BAT will be a toast
The numbers don't lie

helinues:
Atiku presidency, a Northerner can't sell in both SW and SS

Change begins with seeing and accepting faults from oneself
The culture of pretending to the outside of our bad state, character and values as a nation is over
Hard truth to bare!
They either do something about it or consumes everybody not just the citizens!

Sccarrr:
And who will bear the consequences after dragging themselves through the mud in front of the whole world ,the leadership or the citizens?

The problem is can BAT go after them? He is toast if he goes after members of that CPC cult!

Yes like the harm of BAT's certificate being released!

Well well, Nigerians are ready to rub themselves in the mud Infront of the whole world since the elders and leadership has refused to be wise!

Sccarrr:
It is deeply troubling ,many individuals seem unaware of the serious harm they are inflicting on the country’s reputation.

Yes that is the stupidly wicked former governor from my state!
Always on the bad side of history
How does Southern presidency help Nigerians now that we continue suffering pro max?

He didn't loose cos of zoning anyways, he lost cos the people especially from my LG were done with a devil like him. He ran for Senate after his woeful tenure and failed!
He should not say it's cos of zoning.
If it's cos of zoning is it only SW and SS that makes the south?

This message is for those that care to consider non-emotional approach to 2027.
Has anyone noticed how BAT has used state apparatus to penetrate PO base in the SS?
BAT has cornered SS leaders already, they won't fight for obi even if APC wants to steal their votes for BAT and definitely online tweets won't be able to fight them. They will flood military and police (ofcos it only happens in the south all the time, and they get away with it)

SE is on their own as far as South and the equation is concerned right now.
There's no sugar coating it anymore for those who want the truth.
BAT will rather die than release presidency to someone from the SE!
He is not GEJ that let buhari take it without fighting back with state powers. Only a northerner can challenge that political power right now. Look around you, even the SE leaders are dinning with BAT just out of fear and intimidation because I don't want to believe it's money.

South-easterners will have to be pragmatic to swallow the bitter pill and allow OBi deputize Atiku
ATiku with backing of CPC bloc will flood the core north and those votes there will be hardest to rig cos they will fight for it unlike if it is OBi as the flagbearer.
It is simple no one fights for another man's right especially Nigerians. North will fight for what is their own! (Don't blame them)

Kenneth okwonko was also saying same thing.
In as much as Obi is a better personality and the best, Nigeria is not an ideal system for the best to compete at least not for now.
How many people make it through merit in Nigeria even outside the political arena? Talk less of the dirty politics Nigeria practices!
Think!

Some PO supporters like me won't mind, even the online warriors shouting Obi or nothing will bend with time before 2027.

The way some are thinking is that PO can make normal Nigerians really come out and vote for him but what they fail to digest is the fact that BAT and inec will not allow an ideal system for their votes to count for PO!
You need an old horse like Atiku on the ticket even if he is a necessary evil!

There are no two ways out for PO
APC is trying to deceive him to resigning from the coalition if he doesn't get the ticket, they are only massaging his ego to use that as a weapon.
PO doesn't have the grassroot political structure to curb and oppose rigging that happens in the rural areas and that's where the elections are won.
Enlightened Nigerians will vote in mass but in the end their votes won't count cos we will all go back to X to be shouting at inec when inec has already cooked in BAT (at 3am) already.

It happened in the last election, they called it glitch
They will do it again!
They have just done another one in Edo...

PO chance will be after 4yrs of Atiku,he needs to make sure they work together to get the right reforms in Inec before Atiku hands over, and he will win cos I know they will obviously do better than Tinubu and PMB so Nigerians will at large vote for him.
That is the only time a clean person like Obi (a son of no man ) can win a national election in Nigeria without the cabal.

It will not and cannot happen when BAT and INec is still functioning in this manner. They will split SS votes seriously... Rivers results last election will be child play in 2027 for the whole of SS
I'm not even going to consider anything from SW cos they will go all out to kill anyone for BAT in that region in 2027 no jokes.
Also Middle belt they will do everything to rig it for BAT.

The only person that can win right now is someone with an unbroken base which is why Atiku is doing so much to gather buhari's CPC from the north. Whatever crumbs fall from the table of the south will make coalition winner with this approach.

Boss mustapha has said the obvious but some emotional beings are arguing it out.
Once you have a strong northern candidate, an alliance with any part of the south be it SW or SS or SE will win you the elections.
Buhari failed always because neither SE nor SW or SS ever supported him with block votes in all those times.
He won in 2015 not necessarily because of SW,(Fgs how many votes does SW ever give to a presidential candidate historically? It shows in every other national elections)
If he(PMB) had gotten a strong alliance with any other southern region he would have gotten the needed votes to win.

If you combine block votes of SE and block votes of Northern block, added with crumbs from other regions, any other person is toast in the elections. It is simple arithmetic! Not emotions.
What the coalition should solidy on is the recent hate on BAT by the north they should work to make sure they really heat everything up there against BAT and it is done deal.

PO will be president, yes I believe so but whether it is now or never depends on his choice today with the coalition!

If at all I wail it won't be because he is Yoruba!
Of what use is he to his Yoruba brothers?
We still use same market
The joke is on you!

Ikaeniyan0:
Tinubu is the President of Nigeria, why will I wail? You're the one wailing in pains because a Yoruba man is the president of Nigeria.

Hahahaha
They don't get the script Boss just dropped yet

PMB would have gotten it if he had an alliance with any other region in the south...not necessarily SW.

Boss just said SW is inconsequential once the north signs agreement with another region in the South!

Kukutente23:
You guys tell yourselves so many lies
It is only in your corny universe that a man with 2million votes will say he made a man with 12million votes president only to run himself and get 8million votes out of which 6million came from the man he claimed to make president

Is that so
How will he get SS?
You guys don't really understand how other regions and tribes look at your brand of bigotry politics really!
SS will never deliver for BAT they have never voted along with SW and it won't start now that the country is even more polarized with bigotry.
SE is no go area!
BAT should better travel to daura to beg if not it is over

Seniormanchi:
Tinubu plans for 2027 hinges on 2 items

1. Cover up losses in the north with votes from the SS, We expect the Yorubas to give him more votes.
2. Buhari coming out of his silence to endorse him once more.


We know 2 will never happen, and 1 seems a foot . But 2 years is a century in politics

Continue wailing
BAT is going back to Lagos
Y'all can continue your bigotry there

Ikaeniyan0:
Why should Northern votes be remove from Tinubu vote?

Will you also agree south eastern votes should be remove from Peter Obi vote?

Peter 0bi will never become the president of Nigeria

But they say he is a master strategists!

Even 2023 elections, remove northern votes and he had just 3m in the south!

Coalition will defeat Tinubu!

God will bless you for rubbing it to their faces!
I'm from Benue state and I don't follow at all with this propaganda about southern turn as if they have been fair with it

Validated:
During the build -up to 2023 elections, the SW came with rhetorical arguement that it is Southerners turn. They were everywhere telling that the South should queue behind Tinubu. Fast forward to 2025, the Yorubanization of Nigeria has shown us that the SW never meant Southerners, rather South Westerners.
Check this Southern Presidency appointments:
President: Yoruba
Chief of Army staff: Yoruba
Min of Fin: Yoruba
IGP: Yoruba
CBN: Yoruba
FIRS: Yoruba
NNPC: Yoruba
NPA: Yoruba
NCS: Yoruba
Financial Reg Council: Yoruba
Fed Character Comm: Yoruba
The list goes on for atleast 40 strategic positions in Nigeria, federal character principles are jettisoned for parochialism.

As far as SW is concerned, it is AWALOKAN, the SS and SE are not considered competent enough in this so called "Southern Presidency"

Not a problem, there is a saying that whoever the pear become available for, let him lick to his satisfaction. But let noone come and hoodwink us with "Southerners turn" in the name of equity.

Speaking of equity, let us do the maths, because numbers do not lie. For the analysis, we will assume that Tinubu will complete his current tenor by 2027.

OBJ - (South West) 1999 - 2007: 8 years
Yardua (North West) 2007 - 2010: 2 years
GEJ (South South) 2010 - 2015: 6 years
Buhari (North West) : 2015 - 2023: 8 years
Tinubu (South West): 2023 -2027 4 years.

By 2027, the number will be as follows:
Southerners: 8+6+4 = 18 years
Northerners: 2+8 = 10 years

So, the North can demand another 8 years to even out to the South 8 years advantage. If we want EQUITY, let us allow the North meet up with the South. A more equitable arrangement would even be to give the South East the concession in 2027, after all what is good for the Yoruba is also good for the Igbos.

Pen drops

Even buhari that was steadily maintaining 10m votes + and still loosing didn't blackmail and insult other groups that later supported him to win in 2015
But Obidients think they can blackmail someone because of a little 6m votes?

My timeline on X is filled with all sorts of insults and tantrums from Obidients on their fellow coalition mates just 3 days into the coalition!

Where were these kids when presidential elections used to record close to 30m votes across the country?

They think Nigerian elections revolve around their 6m votes

They think tinubu will write a paltry 8m for himself when he's in control of inec?

Odin13:
Post of the week.

Obidients majority of them knows nothing .. about nigeria politics
They come online to insult Arewa and still wish everyone must vote for Obi..

Let all go for primaries and support our party’s candidates..


Anything but Bola tinubu is welcome

No
You all need to have Sense and decorum and work towards building a formidable platform to that will penetrate into the north while maintaining his Southern support base OR you allow Nigerians to let BAT run away with it without stress!
How do you people want to win with PO alone ?
Why did PO decide to join the coalition?
Why didn't he stick with Abure?
Is coalition by force?
Only 3 days into coalition and someone can't rest from toxicity of insults from Obidients!
How do you guys want to get support from the north when you spend 24hrs insulting the only people from that same north who seem interested in pitching tents with PO?

Politics in Nigeria is not Uzobu zobu
All these online noise and insults will not help but cause more problems.
Time for zoning or flagbearer isn't now still far away close to 2027 instead of you people to focus on campaign for the new platform you all are swimming in your delusions of PO or nothing!

See how tirelessly Atiku is working to galvanize northern support into the coalition
Can PO do that?
Abi he wants to continue with his 2023 template?

Infact even PO hasn't come out to state his role in the coalition yet fgs

Even with the strong support he got in 2023 from the south, he lost woefully in the north and that was why he lost 2023 to Tinubu. He knows he needs the northern fellows but you immature and highly toxic group of children won't work to build bridges across the Niger.

You think it's about your little 6m votes alone?
Northern votes will more than double that for PO in 2027 if you guys work for this coalition instead of doing this Ozobu zobu insults and tantrums everywhere!

Mind you I support PO but I don't consider myself as an Obidient I am not part of this low level toxicity toxicity forum!
I follow my mind which tells me PO this time but still I will do whatever he PO decides to do in the coalition flagbearer or not!

Master strategists of election rigging don deh fear

Before 2027, membership will be more than election results votes!

This was the position of all sane people but agbado crew was everywhere defending bad precedents!
There are other ways to discipline members within the chambers, but they do not have a right to deprive representation of a constituent that voted.

Make Atiku and wike take am easy before they kill this old man with Bp

The other one who is an agbero will get drunk and b spilling nonsense why? Becos Nigerians love street and gutter behavior that's why they will come and say he is more politically relevant...not his track record or character but cos of his gutter behavior they so much eulogize

Drs in civil service in countries like US Canada UAE can buy luxury cars from their pay!
Tell me if a Dr in civil service here can buy luxury cars throughout their lifetime work!
There are countries where civil servants can afford luxury, those are saner climes.
And Nigeria can as well be a good example at least for once Fgs
Do we have to continue hiding behind show me where in the world it's done?
Elsewhere Even if they can't afford it within a month pay, they can save up in years and achieve their dreams.
Here someone spends a whole lifetime to keep doing hand to mouth and you people trying to make it look like it's a norm, it's okay

Wawelexy:
You are just arguing out of context.. You are changing the whole narrative...

Go back to my post and show me how I defended poverty... You are just shifting goal post ..

Show us anywhere in the world where what a civil servant earns can afford the luxury lifestyle we are talking about here... Without any side business... just what they earn according to what the guy said in the advert...

I'm not even sure you know the difference between luxury and basic things for living...


If the guy had shaded government directly without calling out civil servants, it would have made sense...

Are you expecting the government to over pay staff just to be able to live a luxury lifestyle? cos I really don't understand your point exactly...

Everyone knows the government are doing bad... But that ad is total rubbish.... Take it or leave it