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Negro_Ntns:
Where does the Yoruba word "ma da saria (sharia or justice or penalty) fun e" come from?

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56375:-what-should-be-jonathans-priority-by-mans-chief-parties-&catid=1:national&Itemid=559
From Lawrence Njoku (Enugu), Gordi Udeajah (Umuahia), Leo Sobechi (Abakaliki), and Wole Oyebade (Lagos) News - National

AS the debate over the planned single term for the President and state governors rages, the Chairman of the Enugu, Anambra, and Ebonyi states’ chapter of the Manufacturers Association of Nigeria (MAN) Dr. Chike Obidigbo, the National Chairman of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Victor Umeh, and others have asked President Goodluck Jonathan to focus on the economy and not disappoint Nigerians.

Obidigbo said venturing into matters such as tenure elongation at this early stage could distract the President with unbearable effects on the economy and most Nigerians.

In a statement made available to The Guardian in Abakaliki, Obidigbo said the popular thinking among Nigerians now remains that the presence of technocrats in the present federal cabinet would spur the President to greater heights, especially towards the provision of infrastructure and social amenities as well as boosting the industrial base of the country.

He wondered why the President should venture into another round of arguments over the term limits for the President and state governors, insisting that whether he would benefit or not is immaterial at this time.

“What is his business with term limit? Is that part of the reason most Nigerians trooped out en masse to vote for him on April 16? I hope Mr. President is not about to disappoint us so soon? The proposed bill is not only ill-timed, it is ill-advised,” the MAN chief said.

He enjoined the government to fashion out appropriate measures to cushioning the effect of increasing cost of domestic items such as kerosene, adding that escalating prices of basic food items could trigger social upheavals if unaddressed.

To Umeh, the proposed single tenure bill would be opposed by APGA.

Umeh told journalists in Umuahia at the weekend that though the President might have good intention for proposing the bill, the arrangement would not make those elected under it to be accountable to the people.

The APGA leader, who was in Umuahia to attend a priesthood ordination at the Mater Dei Catholic Cathedral, said: “The President may have good intention for proposing this Bill but a critical analysis of the implications of passing this bill is that the President and governors will now be elected for six-year single tenure. So, it is very dangerous because from the blast of the whistle, they may decide to abandon the electorate and there is nothing that you can do to them in view of the immunity clause in our constitution, it means that it will be very difficult to remove them from office when they are going wrong.”

Also, a presidential aspirant in the defunct National Republican Convention (NRC), Dr. Joe Nwodo, said in Lagos at the weekend that the debate on tenure elongation is a sheer waste of time.

He said the argument for and against the number of years in office was misplaced, as the basis of remaining in office should be premised on performance.

Nwodo said: “The question is not the number of years, but of what has been achieved. Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos stayed for four years and he took the country unawares. It is a question of how well, so we should not waste our time on the number of years.”

Meanwhile, the Conference of Nigerian Political Parties (CNPP), has set up a campaign team to enlist the support of other Nigerians against the proposed tenure elongation.

At a press conference in Enugu yesterday, CNPP said there was need to stop Jonathan on his tenure elongation proposal, expressing fears that Nigeria’s number one citizen may be heading for dictatorship.

CNPP said that this became necessary after a careful assessment of the body language, mannerisms and antecedents of the President, saying the body had come to the inevitable conclusion that he might emerge as a dictator in the mould of African “big men” such as Paul Biya of Cameroun and Abdoulaye Wade of Senegal, if not called to order.

The group’s National Publicity Secretary, Osita Okechukwu, alleged that the President had never kept any of his promises to Nigerians, stressing that a cursory assessment showed that “big men” in their route to power look humble, honest, and un-ambitious, until they get to the zenith of power.

The first major test of the recently passed Freedom of Information Act is unfolding as radical Lagos lawyer, Femi Falana, has demanded for record of total disclosure of all disbursement of fuel levy collected by the Federal Roads Maintenance Agency, FERMA, since 2007.

Beaf:
You are spot on. Practically all "Islamic" banks are owned by pork chomping Christians, these banks in turn have shares in gambling and defence businesses.

"Islamic" banking has zero to do with Islam and everything to do with profit. Religion is a tool with which to clobber the vulnerable, hopeless and gullible.
In Nigeria's case though, it is a much more cynical weapon; it is the tool of the core-Northern elite to nurture and propagate their hegemonistic ambitions. It is all a long range plan of divide and rule; the aim is to "seem" to address the needs long suffering Muslims, as against the rest of Nigeria, a subtle, but nevertheless dangerous and obnoxious divide and rule tactic.

Boko haram has been seen through, headed away from the senseless bloodbath it was meant to provoke and confined to the streets of Maidugury. Even more than that, security agencies on the lookout for al qaeda operatives have their beams intensely focussed on the core-North. With loss staring them in the face, they have reached for a desperate measure; maybe the next Northern riots or bombs will target "Christian" banks.
The World is watching and the Mutallabs in US gulag are singing and spilling. Its a long chess game that the mallams have already lost.

In the meantime, Middle Belters and Southerners with the means should go all out to 100% own these banks, control the flow of cash from source to destination, own the street.

Sanusi is a man from an extremely priviledged home, who chose to shun Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, the LSE etc; he chose to sit a a degree in Sharia and Islamic Studies from the African International University in the dust ridden backwater, Khartoum, Sudan. A very strange decision for a young man from a super connected, moneyed background at an age when it is natural that his mind, like those of his peers should have been on girls. That is a very instructive point about the mans makeup.

Beaf:
^
Lol!
Bros, shine your eyes before it is too late.

Beaf:
What a funny guy! Here is a man who cannot even choose a couple of commissioners to serve the masses. He is going to single-handedly build schools and roads before the end of the year. He makes grand and highly deluded speeches; he promised to turn Osun state into the centre of Yoruba culture and tourism before the end of the year, not stopping there, he was going to massively export yams to Lagos by train and bring back the farm implements that would help Osun build its very own replica of Oke-Arin market.

Oke-Arin market? The man is mad. Nigeria's very own Don Quixote.

Its history repeating.
We never learn our lesson, African history is replete with all sorts of megalomaniacs and madmen. This is Jeane Bedel Bokassa of the Central African Republic, a thoroughly ugly fool that in 1976, declared himself the "Head of the House of Bokassa" and "His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor of the "Central African Empire." He took a personal part in the toture and execution of his enemies and his "empire" was modelled after that of Napoleon.

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ndu_chucks:
@aloy-emeka and koruji - you people are a confused lot. It is impossible to implement some unconstitutional sharia clause. If any state pases laws which are opposed to the Nigerian constitution, those laws will be overturned by the courts. How many court challenges have we had to these unconstitutional sharia implementaion you talk about.

Do you people even know, what the constitution provides for, as far as sharia is concerned? Continue to live in ignorance and you will not seek the remedies you deserve when your constitutional rights are trampled upon. olodos

LFJ:
Let me make a clarification between the two, maybe this will help your understanding of the different between the profit and interest, at least from Muslim point of view. Money is not a commodity, meaning, we cannot buy and sell or lease money, interest in reality is buying and selling of money. The “profit” that comes out from this “transaction” is called interest.

Any other forms of increase in return (excluding those that came from forbidden transactions) is what is call profit in Islam. Or to take it further, profit is the residual return to the entrepreneur after all the factor of productions is paid their respective shares.

According to some scholars, they said interest drive economy is dangerous, it destroys the economy, instead of investing your money in real commodities/business and risk a loss, you might as well sit on your money, lend it and enjoy the “fixed returns”; no companies or jobs were created. It did add something to the economy, but the reality is that it destroys more than it creates.

Profit comes from the production of real goods/services and added real value to the economy.

http://www.osundefender.org/?p=18718

The governor of Osun State, Mr Rauf Aregbesola, has said that his administration would begin the construction and maintenance of roads across the state shortly after the rainy season.
He also stated that before the end of the year, the government would show the public an example of how public secondary schools must be like, the prototype of which would likely be completed by September.

Giving the hint in Ijebu-Jesa, the headquarters of Oriade Local Government Council Area of the state last Wednesday during the commissioning of some developmental projects carried out by the council chairman, Honourable Taiwo Fatiregun, the governor said that for a government to perform, it needed an appreciable period of time to handle budget, initiate policies and put in place programmes that would benefit the people forever.

He said: “The roads are going bad, no doubt, and that is the indication of poor management of our resources in the last seven and a half years, but whoever wants to attempt road maintenance and construction now, during the rainy season, is just wasting money and time.

“We are reserving our energy and resources till after the rains. You will see superlative performance on road maintenance and construction. We are not comparable to those that wasted our resources for seven and a half years in any way and I am happy that our people noticed this before they chose us in preference to them. By the grace of God, we shall not disappoint them.

“Before the end of this year, you will see the example of secondary schools that we are going to build and there will be no local government council area that will not have samples of it. The schools will be unique and they will take a large number of students, such that the present schools locations that are not worthy of our pupils would be dedicated to other things, while several of them would be able to match standard, beautiful and attractive academic institutions anywhere in the world”, Aregbesola noted.

Commending the council boss for his achievements within his short stay in office, the governor said that the performances of his proxies in all the council areas would be a tip of what would be recorded as an achievement and performance of the present administration from local government to the state level within the next one year.

He said that inspite of the little allocation to the council areas, the council bosses were still taking good governance to the doorsteps of the people, saying, “it is their allocation that they are using now; we are conserving the Excess Crude Oil fund that is meant for capital projects; which was being used by the last administration to eat pepper soup. “The fund is with us and by the time we are set, we will release that fund to them and you will see the amazing things that they will do with it”.

The essence of governance, he said, was to see government touching the lives of the people, adding that government has no business being in position if the welfare of the people is not affected.

“Whenever I read the tantrum of those who ruled us for seven and a half years without anything to show for it, I laugh and tell myself that as much as God lives, no matter how cocky they are, within the first two years, with the level of our performance, they will declare publicly that they did not perform at all.

Islamic law prohibits the consumption of alcohol, permits caning and amputation of limbs, and calls for separate schools and public transportation for males and females. Muslim supporters in Nigeria insist that Christians will not be affected. But in Zamfara, where the state purchased additional buses so that men and women would not ride together, there have been numerous reports of Christian women waiting hours for a bus that transports females.

KADUNA, Nigeria - In late Nov 2002, Officials canceled the Miss World pageant in Nigeria. They decided to move it to London. The initial reports claimed a newspaper report on the event sparked the rioting that has killed about 200 people and injured thousands. The announcement came after three days of rioting triggered by the pageant and a newspaper's reference to the prophet Muhammad. Fueling the clashes are long-standing hostilities between the various tribes of Muslims and Christians in Africa's most populous nation, where rioting and fighting between the groups is commonplace. Previous riots in Kaduna have escalated into religious battles that have killed hundreds since civilian government replaced military rule in 1999. Islamic groups have complained for months that beauty pageant scheduled promotes promiscuity.

ndu_chucks:
Are you sure about what you wrote above? If so would you kindly tell us which Northern states implement shariah in a manner which is unconstitutional? Thanks

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/25929-suspected-boko-haram-agent-arrested-in-ibadan

Written by Adebayo Waheed Monday, 01 August 2011

A suspected member of the Boko Haram sect was, on Saturday, arrested by security conscious members of the public while he was trying to locate “the biggest churches” in Ibadan, Oyo State.

The suspect (names withheld), who pretended to be a physically challenged beggar, was arrested at Omitowoju area, off Salvation Army Road, Ibadan, in Ibadan North- West Local Government Area of the state.

Nigerian Tribune learnt that the suspect had approached a group of people to beg for alms, when his mobile phone rang.When he brought it out from his pocket, the quality of the handset caught the attention of his  would be benefactors, who became curious and suspicious, wondering how a beggar came to  be in possession of such an expensive handset.

Unfortunately for the supposed beggar, one of those he begged for alms, could speak the Hausa Language with which he was conversing with the person at the other end and this reportedly gave him away.

When it dawned on him that his handset had attracted the attention of the people, he quickly moved away while still speaking with his caller.

But unknown to him, the person who could speak Hausa Language among the people, followed him so he could  hear the conversation between the supposed beggar and his caller.

The man later disclosed that the “beggar” was telling his caller that he was still going around to locate the big churches in Ibadan for possible attack.

The “beggar” was consequently pursued, arrested and beaten and a roving motorcycle (popularly called okada) was chartered to take him to the Mokola police station.

Unkown to the people, the supposed okada rider was a policeman, but was in mufti.

Nigerian Tribune further gathered that the suspect’s handset, which had N13,000 credit, further fuelled the suspicion that he must have come to Ibadan for a special assignment.

When contacted, the state Commissioner of Police Moses Onireti said it was meant to cause confusion in the state, saying that the man arrested was not from Boko Haram.

Kobojunkie:
I am not really informed on the part in bold . . . but sure, the Governor should get the people involved.

bamosagie:
There are questions that Sanusi should be answering that nobody is asking.

Question like, what will be the minimum capital base of non-interest banks?

Since their loans & savings are without interest, how will they pay for the facilities, properties, infastructures, rates and salaries of staff employed in course of thier business? who will be the financiers of this banks and what is in it for them?

[size=14pt]Since interest is not involve in their operation are they exempted from paying tax?[/[/size]b]
How will generate more funds to keep their operations afloat? what are steps they use in recovering loans given out?

[b]please educate those of us that practise other faiths so that we can erase all forms of suspicion from our minds.

Kobojunkie: The State does not have to pool all it's available resources into repairing the whol 120km stretch. Repairing just 0.5km of that road is better than repairing none at all. That road has been a death trap for years, yet it remains one of the MAJOR roads that links Ogun with businesses from outside.

Just like Lagos, Ogun also has too many state roads left to make good --- the state does not need to first repair all of it's roads ( and for those who are stuck on that word, make them perfect) before it considers working on a MAJOR ROAD like this one.

I really hope other state governors, rather than cry and wail all year, would get to working, not for their egos, but at least with the understanding that those who ply these roads regularly, need them repaired.

Kobojunkie:
Well, up to this point, the excuse with Lagos has been that "It is Federal Road", and somehow a crime for States to step in when the FG Fails . . . at least according to the Nairaland Lagos hounds .

Desola:
Applaudable move!
Let's hope that Lagos would pick up the tab for the remaining leg. It would be a brilliant ACN fusion.
Fingers and toes crossed.

tpia@:
hmm, maybe i need to tone down my SUism so i can benefit from the largesse of our nigerian men and eat a bit of the national cake.

afterall why am i doing sufferhead and typing long grammer when dressing skimpily and showing some skin will net me a lot of goodies and greenbacks.

all the "intelligent discussion" is getting me nowhere cos i'm as broke as ever?

dayokanu:
WHy should you in any way relate this to Islam and absolve Christianity of it even in the face of glaring evidence

claremont: Marriageable age is subjective, and varies depending on a lot of factors one of which could be religion. Therefore, the opinion of the Muslims cannot be said to be wrong, because they are measuring the marriageable age of a girl on the basis of the provisions of their religion which is entirely appropriate.

BetaThings:
What is barely out of diapers? anyone less than 18? In Sweden, the age of consent is 15. So are they out of diapers?   My problem is that we have on account of innovation leadership concede all reasoning to the west. Th eother day, it was somebody saying that Jonathan and Sambo should be wearing suits. What part of our culture are we not going to jettison
Our suicide rates are lower in part because of certain cultural practices eg extended family. Can we cope with higher suicide rates
If we copy all the time, those people will never respect us
Rapid? It is either ok or not. If it is ok, why the delay? Of course, it is really disgusting

Negro_Ntns:
Serxval instinct and physiological clock determine readiness for inter-course.

There are early bloomers and there are late bloomers. Serxval desire in humans is complex, a 16r old can become excited by visual, touch, smell, audial. Its a very strong desire that build overtime, without the proper outlet and suppressed too long it can manifest as resentment, rebellion and create problems in other areas of life and cause life-long problems.

We should not regulate biological clocks.

md4real:
Some people are funny. Pragmatically, have u seen a girl of 16-19 that just finished secondary sechool? Go check em out and see what is term maturity. Solid bosoms, big body and possibly, not even a birgin anymore. What do you expect? Marriage shikena!

Obiagu1:
I didn't say marriage, I said consent

Obiagu1:
Age of consent should be lowered to 13 yrs. The high age of consent in many countries leads to an increase in the number of g.ays and les.bians.

Negro_Ntns:
I see! Our acceptance of it is in reference to whether or not Western Nations are okay with the practice.
I'm sure Islam would have been badgered again, as usual, if there was no North American or European legitimacy to reference.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56124:-why-child-rights-act-should-be-reviewed-by-adamawa-speaker&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

Why Child Rights Act Should Be Reviewed, By Adamawa Speaker .
Saturday, 30 July 2011 00:00 From Nkechi Onyedika, Yola

SPEAKER of the Adamawa State House of Assembly, Sadiq Ibrahim, has called for a holistic review of the Child’s Rights Act to remove provisions that contravenes some religious principles.

He urged the Federal Government to forward the Act to the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) and Muslim bodies to enable them scrutinise the Act and address areas of conflict.

The lawmaker spoke when he received the Minister of Women Affairs and Social Development, Hajia Zainab Maina, who was on advocacy visit to the state. Ibrahim noted that the Child Rights Act, which had gone through second reading at the state’s Assembly suffered a setback during the third reading when members discovered that some of its provisions contradicted Islamic laws.

He cited a section of the Act which stipulates that “it is a criminal offence for any father to give out his daughter for marriage before the age of 18,” adding that the Islamic principle on the matter provides that a women would be eligible for marriage as soon as she attains maturity.

The Speaker contended that issues of maturity are not determined by law but questions of fact that could be established from the physical attributes of a woman.

Ibrahim insisted that for any provision of the ACT that contravenes the principles of Islamic, the controversy would be resolved in favour of Islamic law.”

He said: “A woman may be matured before the age of 18, there is also an issue of choice. A woman may decide to get married before the age of 18; can you prevent her from making a choice of marrying the husband of her wish before she reaches the age of 18? These are fundamental issues we need resolve.

The Assembly has agreed that there are certain misdeeds in the Nigerian society that can be tackled by the Act such as the Almajarai (street kids) syndrome, begging and hawking by children, which are un-Islamic.

“We will not watch our children being destroyed with tribal marks, undergo Cores mutilation; these are unacceptable to our society.   There are so many provisions of the Act which are good for our society but there are also certain grey areas which we do not agree with and need to be reviewed. This is not about religion but about cultural values that we hold with respect. There is need for a holistic review of the Act.”

The Speaker noted that the state Assembly is already working on the domestication of Convention for Elimination of All forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) adding the women deserve to be respected.

Earlier, Maina appealed to the House to put in place appropriate legislations that would guarantee the rights of women and promote the welfare of children.

tpia@:
Nigerians and the culture of cheating.
Anyway, she's eating her own share of the national cake and oil revenue be that.

OAM4J:
I have a dream! One day the road will be fixed.

But seriously, this is bad. The is the same road Allison Maduake wept over in 2007, and more than 4yrs after, the road remains a death trap to many Nigerians. Jesus wept!