fratermathy:


I am not supporting anything. Just wanted us to debate the issue a little bit but you've made a stronger argument here so I rest my case.

You still think he's made a stronger argument here?

Black witchcraft doesn't know anything good. They only kill, steal and destroy

harbjar:

FUNNY HOW YOU CALL USMAN DAN FODIO A JIHADIST ND DONT SEE THE CRUSADERS THE SAME WAY.... HOW BIAS

You are so ignorant. Crusaders where formed to defend themselves from Jihadists. Are you always **** just being mischievous?

IdeyFindWife:


NBC?

Those id1ots have been missing the mark since 1802.

While it's true that US Hiphop/Rap genres, of which most of these guys are copy-catting, have an history of hyping Chicks, Cribs, Class, Cars & Blings gotten with ill-gotten Cash while shooting Vids that openly mime and promote these themes even to the point of tacitly endorsing "hood & gang violence" yet in the US, nobody or very few people actually do that. From Brooklyn, to Inglewood to Georgia to Philly, all gees know to keep their sh!t on the lowkey.

It'd be a rare case of stupidity-on-steroids or death-wish syndrome for anyone of them to be, actually, "moving keys" (i.e. kilos of white powder), defrauding folks or murdering people and actually singing about it! The cops would be on you faster than the raps bars you're supposed to be spitting and life can be very difficult for some type of ex-offenders in the US, i assure you, plus all the endorcements and stardom will just go poof once your imagery becomes a bit more than most of the law-abiding public can tolerate, hell, even Gees, pimps, dealers and hoodrats'll tell you they don't "want no cop trouble"!

But Nigeria's case is the opposite because these NBC theives have been taking bribes and lookin the other for so long the lowlife dregs actually have more sense of authenticity than the "good hardworking folk" now. Enough musical artistes and Nollywood are into yahoo-yahoo, wire-frauds, scams, drug-trafficking, prostitution even petty theft like Seun Egbegbe and co who go around stealing publicly and getting spanked but not quitting like deranged goats.

I guess we had it coming because a corruption-ridden haven like Nigeria can't have musicians doing showbiz "just for the art" for too long!

You have only succeeded in praising others and destroying your own. So you actually did not make any point. Americans sing about crime and many of them practice what they sing about and a whole lot of them have been arrested and jailed and some of them know how they keep their game with the Police and the FBI. Those arrested and jailed come out without losing their image or popularity except if they lose their voice from the trauma of jail. American singers write and sing about crime and they actually practice what they sing about. some have been caught with drugs. some have been caught with powerful dangerous weapons. some have been caught in fraud. others have been caught in rapes and paedophilia. I just don't understand why people like to praise foreigners and destroy themselves insensibly. I would understand if actually what you wrote is true. but it's not. American law enforcers are also corrupt. believe me

harbjar:

and the story says " usman dan fodio killed the xtains or forced xtains into islam??" pls go and read ur books to gain knowledge nd stop speaking on things u ve no idea about

No wonder APC is described as an islamic party. you always deny the obvioius. religion and party of lies. No wonder, satan is your father. You tell me what Usman Dan Fodio did if not kill people and forced his religion on them. I read my history and I'm very much aware of what jihad means and how dan fodio carried out his own jihad. And I'm very much aware how syria, Turkey were conquered. and how almost all Europe were almost conquered if not for the formation of the Crusaders.

harbjar:

how mischievous... took a phrase out out a very long statement so as to suite our judgement.... and in ur mind you ve quoted the qur'an
quran 48 v 29
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.
quran 25 verse 52
So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them (by preaching) with the utmost endeavour with it (the Qur'an).

The only gospel Islam recognizes is the gospel of the sword. They don't believe in Evangelism. take Turkey as a case study and see how they were islamized. If not for the crusaders that rose up in defence of Christianity, the whole of Europe would have been conquered.

harbjar:

which muslim army came to
nigeria
egypt
indonesia
malaysia
sudan
libya
gambia
senegal
mali
guinea
Morocco
bosnia
Tunisia
france
england
tell me .... unlike xtainity that was spread the swords of the ruthless crusaders....

I will answer you that of Nigeria. Ever heard of Usman Dan Fodio?

Some are not even ashamed to mention crusaders. What led to the formation of the crusaders? Wasn't it the same Moslem extremism?

only a fool will compare asking for secession with asking someone to vacate your cities. if the Arewa youths are really interested in helping Biafra, what they need to do is call on federal government to conduct referendum. after referendum, people from both countries will give a time of grace for different groups to evacuate to their respective countries. Not evacuation before referendum. Arewas are hypocrites.

maureensylvia:
am Igbo

am anti Biafra

The he goat NNAMDI KANU is a scam who must have been paid heavily to whine mouth anyhow, u all know when war starts which we don't pray for he will fly out leaving his ipob

lemme ask y will Dia ever b unity when in Igbo we have IPOB, MASSOB, OGHANEZE NDI IGBO, lolz everybody wan chop national cake.

we Igbo's in north are against ipob!!!


nobody should ever tell us to come back home cos we have made enough investments here which eventually if we come back will be eaten by gullible Igbos

don't b surprise that those telling us to come back home are those depending on us for feeding. I tire ooo

I believe Dis ultimatum will b resolved before 1st October

I stand with ONE NIGERIA

I doubt that you are Igbo. If you are Igbo and truly typed this, then you need deliverance.

Igbankes don't practice Igbo customs. Those names listed up there are neither Igbanke or Ika names. Those are simply Igbo names that don't have any place in Ika language and naming pattern. Igbanke has been Edo from a very long time. Anybody has the right to write whatever he likes. Anybody can forge any write up. The truth is Igbanke as it is now doesn't belong in Edo but belong wherever the Ikas and other Aniomas belong.

baralatie:

do you understand the implication of recession in s.a

I understand. The load on the government is just too much. Government practically does everything for them. will even marry their wives for them and give them everything. build their houses, buy their cars. they don't have or do nothing. What a lazy set of people. you'll understand if you ever visited or stayed there

Wait, does this mean one can travel to Morocco without Visa?

The worst South African Government is the best of Nigerian government. but the most industrious South Africans are the laziest Nigerian. SA has very good government but very lazy populace. If you know how much the government spend on the citizens despite not making so much money like the developed countries, you would wonder why SA took so long before getting into recession.

Homosexuals are demented. They need our help not our support to continue in their madness.

And for some people that don't know, Rastafarism is a very spiritual religion that started in Jamaica. Rastafarais are some of the most spiritual people in the world that can only be compared with the Hindus. Though the religion is somewhat like a movement but it's a religious movement that has a very high spirituality

Student125:

I dnt want to do this but I think u lack common sense. Go back and read all my comments on this issue, if u really have something up there u would comprehend my point that we are all bound to have natural dread (dada) but cuz at a point we cut it. whether 8days after birth, one year or when they are fully established, once u cut it (birth hair), dada is gone for good.
And I even said go check history of those having dada on their head, they've not cut the first hair since birth.
So why attach spirituality with something obvious.
I won't reply ur mention again bye.

You are a student that has refused to learn because you think you know better than your teachers. I pity your teachers and lecturers.

Marpol:


When you don't cut or groom your hair for a long time it tangles and becomes dreads.

Most white garment members don't cut their kids hair from infancy and as such it tangles.

And when they comb an infant hair and he or she cries too much they take it as a sign that his hair shouldn't be touched.

Wrong. They start from infancy. It's only someone that's a dada that has a law of not touching his head. You got it all mixed up.

akin33:
Because they are possessed with demons that look like that. it is a person. that is highly possessed with marine spirit that prophesy. pls, don't be deceived, dada (dreadlock) for a not mean that someone is a prophet. We have number of persons in the Bi le history who did not have dreadlock before carrying out God task. Only Samson the Bible recorded to have dreadlock. Before Samson was born, they have been a prophecy that his mother should not drink alcohol and the child hair should not be cut. Outside Samson, anyone you see with such dirty hair must be possessed with strange spirit please.

what about John the Baptist? Was he possessed?

SalamRushdie:


No , but I have followed the one the ones in Nigeria for a while and found out the all have link to white garment churches

Yes, most of them have links with spiritual churches but if there are a slight number of them that are not spiritually linked anywhere else in the world, there is a chance of it happening in Nigeria too. Those places with less prevalence has some natural non spiritual dada. I don't think all of them are spiritual.

SalamRushdie:


Do you follow thier parent about in the night when they slip into white garment church secretly to seek the future?

No. so you might be right. depends on your point. I know it's more prevalent in spiritual churches than it is with other denomination, other religions and atheists. What exactly is your point? that all natural dreadlocks are spiritually influenced?

Student125:

Till u are one...listen to yourself. do u expect dada to be fully established at one? y not leave till 5yrs and c d result.

You sound stupid. Dada starts becoming visible immediately at birth on babies of spiritual churches. I have 3 cousins that were dada and they were not going to spiritual churches. their parents don't follow any spiritual laws. It's not only spiritual churches that give birth to dada children. But the point here is that it's much more prevalent in spiritual churches.

Student125:

I don't have time to argue, I gve up on u
Since there is spirituality, you don't want to think outside spirituality.
Someone said they don't till one year, the point is they still cut the birth hair before it fully establish to dread.
Check those with natural dread, they have not cut it since birth.
Unless you have someone that after cutting ( wether 8days - 12months or maybe 24month) still grow dread naturally after the cut, then you can comeup with another argument.

There's no laws in spiritual churches where they don't cut hairs till one year. And there is no where that dreadlocks grows out after cutting out the first original natural hair. so is your point that there's nothing like natural dread?

AmuDimpka:
And you have ended up twisting it


Having lived in Lagos for years doesn't make me a Yoruba

cheruv is an impersonator

Student125:

You just showed how ignorant you are.. y do you always term everything spiritual in Nigeria, no wonder Nigeria is like this. I guess twin are still demon and so they shld b killed(ur spiritual).
And for your info, most people shave off their new born babies hair 8days after birth for the naming.

You're the ignorant one here. Are you trying to tell me there's nothing like spirituality? And who shaves hair 8 days after shaving? Is it the Igbos that has the highest numbers of Sabatharians and even non Sabbatharians practice an indigenous naming culture similar to the Jewish naming culture which all spiritual churches also follow?

How exactly is Messi more talented? Messi plays like he's fighting and football is a big deal. Ronaldo plays like he's doing nothing while achieving much. What is talent? Talent is the natural ability to do something well and efficiently without putting much efforts and work.

Akinloye1095:
The reason is that most of them don't normally shave the head of their new born baby after birth. If child is born and his/her hair is not shave, there's a great probability of having deadlock

who shaves a babies hair immediately after birth? You do't know what you're talking about. Just keep shut. All over the world, I noticed dreadlocks are more prevalent in two groups. The Jamaica Rastafarians and the Nigerian spiritual churches. I don't know how the Jamaicans do theirs but I'm certain the spiritual churches don't do anything on theirs. It's what I've witnessed. Traces of dada starts showing immediately after birth. so I think those talking about shaving and combing don't even have any idea about this. It's a spiritual stuff

Student125:
The question you guys should be asking is
1) Why do we have it only on white garment church members.
2) Have you seen a Muslim with natural dread before?
3) Why do some cut it at a point and it will never grow again after that.
The answer is simple, natural dread occur when you refuse to shave off the first hair from birth, maybe according to their doctrine, they don't shave their hair after birth. Just imagine what will be of a hair not shaved from birth to 2yrs.
oh u don't still get it, imagine not cutting ur hair for 12months nt to talk of leaving a curly hair from birth to 24months.
I don't know if this is applicable to whites but if we all decide not to barb the first air from birth, we will all have natural dread(dada).

You do not know what you are talking about. So keep shut

petsarena:
Something must be behind it,have seen children from same parents all born with dreads. I notice that because of their belief, some parents who attend these white garment churches even allow the hair of their new born to matt so as to be dada.

Lies. nobody allows hairs to matt. Majority of those born with dreads are shaved off at a young age after the required ritual. stop saying what you don't know

I see some cynics and skeptics trying to argue this. A high number of members of spiritual churches have natural dreads. this is not a thing of keeping it for their spiritual belief neither is it a matter of artificial. they don't do artificial dreads in spiritual churches. almost all children born in spiritual churches are dreads and majority of them cut it but there are many rituals they perform before cutting it. Carrying artificial a taboo in spiritual churches except you are ready to follow the laws that goes with it like not touching dead bodies of humans and animals, not drinking etc and how many people are ready to do artificial dreads and keep these laws? And for those saying they keep dreads because of their believe, the opposite is the case, A high percentage of those born with dreadlocks get it cut after performing all the required rituals to avoid the wrath of breaking the laws of that goes with it. In spiritual churches, dreads are not just a fashion, it has a very strong spiritual symbolism that not doing it has some very strong negative effects and nobody is willing to risk that