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smokinloud:
Your picture does not prove anything. Only population stat of the Jews from and before 1948

as at 1948, ur jews were 15million world wide and less than 600thousand of which existed in the middle east. mostly the rest in america and europe. how manage, if jews are not from europe and america?

smokinloud:
The military can declare curfew for a specific mission but that does not make the community a military Zone. The community was opened and free from curfew few weeks after

from ur own post, its clear the surrounding areas after the fence in gaza is a militarized zone.

smokinloud:
Palestinians were never Arab. Arab were colonizers' tennant with a tennant agreement with their landlord (The Ottoman)

how can ottoman be a landlord to arabs, wen ottoman was colonized by arabs? when ottoman speak arab till today? wen ottoman is in the arab league as we speak? who is really the landlord?

smokinloud:
Jews is Anglicisation of Judean Yahuda. Every scholar agreed to that even Arab Palestinians

We saying the same thing. Palestinians were never YAHUDA They were Judaeans. wotever YAHUDA means, originated from Europe and has nothing to do with Palestinians

smokinloud:
are you sure you're not a bot?!. How could you quote a an article that doesn't give specific location for me in this argument?!.
Just how?!.
*Is Sderot a military Zone?!
*Is Be'eri a military zone?!
* Ofakim a military zone?!.

As usual you must lie to promote the cause of Palestine.

U PROBABLY NEED GLASSES
cos is clearly stated THE AREA SURROUNDING THE GAZA STRIP, A CLOSED MILITARY ZONE.

HIS WAS IN FAR BACK 2017

Israeli soldiers patrol close to the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip on October 30, 2017, near Kibbutz Kissufim in southern Israel. (AFP Photo/Menahem Kahana)
The army has declared the area surrounding the Gaza Strip a “closed military zone” in light of unspecified activities in the area, the military censor cleared for publication on Sunday.

The nature of the military activity in the area and the exact location of the closures were not allowed to be published.

The army said there were no new special instructions for Israeli residents of the Gaza border region, though existing orders keeping farmers away from certain areas along the border remain in place.

I think qouting the times of israel, will cure ur fakeness grin
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-declares-area-around-gaza-a-closed-military-zone/

smokinloud:
PALESTINIANS WERE ALWAYS JEWS DURING THE TIME OF HERODOTUS THAT THE BOOK IS TALKING ABOUT SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY POINT

Palestinians were never Jews. Palestinians were Judaeans. Jews originated from Europe. they have never had any connection to Palestine until recently.

smokinloud:
THE PALESTINIANS THAT HISTORY ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BEFORE THE ARAB CONQUEST WERE JEWS 100 PERCENT. THE GREEKS AND ROMANS WERE JUST COLONIZERS. STOP DRINKING CAMEL URINE LIKE A 7TH CENTURY ILLITERATE PROPHET

maybe u know about jews more than the jews themselves.
cos the jews are from europe and have never been in the middle east until the 9th century BC

smokinloud:
The communities attacked was never a military Zone or a border. YOU CAN'T SUPPORT THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE WITHOUT LYING

THIS WAS IN FAR BACK 2017

Israeli soldiers patrol close to the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip on October 30, 2017, near Kibbutz Kissufim in southern Israel. (AFP Photo/Menahem Kahana)
The army has declared the area surrounding the Gaza Strip a “closed military zone” in light of unspecified activities in the area, the military censor cleared for publication on Sunday.

he nature of the military activity in the area and the exact location of the closures were not allowed to be published.

The army said there were no new special instructions for Israeli residents of the Gaza border region, though existing orders keeping farmers away from certain areas along the border remain in place.

I think qouting the times of israel, will cure ur fakeness
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-declares-area-around-gaza-a-closed-military-zone/

smokinloud:
You've drank camel urine early this morning. I said 8th century B.C. which is around 721 BC before the establishment of the Roman Empire. That time Arabs were only indigenous to Yemen and a tiny fraction of Arabia Peninsula. There is no error or fake there

Stop talking about arabs. palestinians have never been arabs. and they are still not arabs till today.

THIS IS HOW FAKE U ARE.
this work was 5century not 8th

smokinloud:
source of the criticism is alhaq.com a Palestinian website.

and so? how about the proponent of the king david site been raving zionists, using the place to gyp stupid pilgrims?

THE LOUDEST CRITICISMS TO THE KING DAVID SITE IS JEWISH
https://emekshaveh.org/en/the-debate-over-king-davids-palace/
Rejection of the theory that the LSS is one Structure
Further criticism of Mazar’s theory was presented by Prof. Israel Finkelstein, Prof. David Ussishkin, Prof. Ze’ev Herzog, and Lily Singer-Avitz, of Tel Aviv University. They claimed that the exposed walls of the Large Stone Structure were poorly preserved, and that their reconstruction as part of one structure is unfounded based on such facts on the ground. Moreover, the researchers claimed that many of the loci that Eilat Mazar alleged were sealed, and thus could be deemed accurately dated areas, were in fact damaged by later construction and therefore may not be considered reliable sources for accurate dating. Furthermore, the team of researchers found evidence that the Large Stone Structure and Stepped Stone Structure were not built as one complex, but rather constitute layers of fortifications built and rebuilt over the course of several hundred years, at least from the Iron Age I (1200-1000 BCE) up to the Hellenistic period (332-63 BCE).

Criticism by City of David’s excavators
Two of the City of David’s excavators in recent decades, Prof. Ronny Reich of Haifa University, and Eli Shukron of the Israel Antiquities Authority, both claimed that Eilat Mazar’s dating is inaccurate and viewed her opinion that the LSS had changed the character of the city as incorrect.8 Reich and Shukron base their claims on the unearthing of walls in various sections of the City of David archaeological park which indicate the city developed substantially only in the 8th century BCE.9

smokinloud:
You are not having a discussion with an Abdul. Or you think I'm a camel urine drinker?!.
Even if it was first used in the 5th century ce by the Romans it still proves my point that Palestine was never a people. It was a name given to the Jews and their land by their conquerers even during the time when Arabs were cavemen and only indigenous to Yemen and Arabia Peninsula

u are just too fake.
wrong use of google yet again.

TYPE WEN DID ASSYRIANS CONQUER ISRAEL

RESULT
721 B.C.
In 721 B.C. Assyria swept out of the north, captured the Northern Kingdom of Israel, and took the ten tribes into captivity.

Do u even see ur error by ur own sef?

smokinloud:
Why do you love to lie?!. UN and international communities legit accept the fact that HAMAS is a terrorist group and Oct 7 was a terrorist act. Israel officially counted around 1200. Israel is the primary source so got to accept their figures like you accepted Hamas figures of 35000 casualties.

All the community that Hamas ethnically wiped out on Oct 7 was civilian areas. MUST YOU ALWAYS LIE?!.

U ARE THE HORRIBLE LIAR HERE.
ONLY ISRAEL AMERICA AND EU CALL HAMAS TERRORIST. NEVER UN. HAMAS IS NOT A TERRORIST ORGANISATION TO THE UN. FACT.
also, Israel is the one who has been both judge, jury, execustioner about the event of oct7. and has refused to permit the UN to investigate all the spurious claims and bogus figures the zionist entity keeps churning out day by day.
then, all the kibbutz hamas attacked, were all located in the border between gaza and the occupied territory of israel. its a militarized zone by the israeli govt. hence, any one u find there, is a legitimate military target. facts

smokinloud:
Cray fish dey swim for your bra1n. There are facts about the archeological proofs of the city of David which all scholars agree on

again, wrong use of google.

TYPE CRITICISM TO THE CITY OF DAVID ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE

RESULT.
Using bogus archaeology and delegitimate excavations, the 'City of David' advances a false, colonial narrative that the history of the site is mainly, if not only, Jewish, in an attempt to erase the site's ancient Palestinian, Muslim, and other non-Jewish heritage.16 Nov 2022

FAKE SCOLARSHIP.

smokinloud:
Stop disgracing your illiterate prophet on here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)#:~:text=The%20first%20clear%20use%20of,Judean%20mountains%20and%20the%20Jordan

u clearly dont know how to use google.

TYPE THE WORD,
WHEN WAS THE WORD PALESTINE FIRST USED.

RESULT.
5th century BCE
The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BCE ancient Greece, when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" (Ancient Greek: Συρίη ἡ Παλαιστίνη καλεομένη) in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan ...

smokinloud:
I said "SOME 1200" meaning roughly 1200.
On October 7, 2023, Hamas attacked about 20 civilian communities in southern Israel and ethnically cleansed them, including Kibbutz Be’eri, Kfar Aza, Kissufim, and Kibbutz Re’im . The attacks targeted civilians, with some 1,200 people killed, many of whom were women and children . The attacks have been described as war crimes and crimes against humanity, with evidence of rape, sexual violence, and mutilation. The Israeli military has released graphic footage of the attacks, which shows the brutality and ease with which Hamas operated inside Israel

my question is how do u know, its 1200? did u count them? were u there? or u just repeating the regurgitated lies of the Zionists? how can any sane person call hamas operation war crimes, when no official investigation to them has EVER been conducted? all the so called systemic rape, have been completely discarded by UN and other similar international agencies. beheaded babies have been proven to be LIES. and every where Hamas operated, were zones, deemed by israel as militarized and they all fall within Palestinian lands within the internationally recognized 1967 palestinian borders

smokinloud:
There are lots of archeological proofs for king David. There are lot of inscriptions dated 3000 years indicating that the kingdom is the "CITY OF DAVID" Heal yourself of your ignorance.

why not include some of those archeological inscriptions? even pharoahs amenhoteps 1, 2 and 3 who existed thousands of yrs before david period are more real as their mummies have been found. and all u say about david is some fake archeological inscription? your religion is based on fraud

smokinloud:
which hole did you crawl out from?. It was named Palestine in the 8th BCE by the Assyrians, when the Assyrians conquered Israel, even before the Roman conquest. At that time Arabs were only indigenous to Yemen and a tiny fraction of Arabia Peninsula. Arab started migrating enmass to the region in the 20th century after the Zionists made it liveable

ur historians are drunk. u dont know nothing. even before 5th century, it has been known as palestine. where in ur bible, did u see assyrians name the place palestine? assyrian conquest of ur so called israel is recorded in ur bible. u mean ur bible forgot to include the part that assyrians named it palestine?

smokinloud:
stop being fed lies by Hamas media. Hamas raided 20 communities besides the Festival and killed civilians who were never armed. Serving in the military for 2 years doesn't mean you handle guns it's just like NYSC and it's strictly for Jews. Arabs and Druze don't serve. Hamas killed some 1200 civilians who were never armed but your slave masters must be defended. Abdul radarada

how do u know, it was 1200thousand people hamas killed? were u there? did u count them by ursef? then wot do u know about militarized zones? its same as natanyahus plan inside gaza rite now. how can any one talk about civillians in a military barrack or military facility? any zone u demacate as militarized zone, anyone found there, is a legitimate military target. as for 2yrs service in the IDF, i have seen them train. some of those boys and girls are in gaza fighting now sef. have u ever seen any military training where u dont fire guns? why do people like talking nonsense like dis?

sparko1:
You can believe what you want, the dead have names, you can pretend all you want, 38 children were killed, 48 more kidnapped.

[url]https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/38-children-were-killed-20-orphaned-on-oct-7-the-state-did-not-pass-the-test-of-protecting-them/#:~:text=orphaned%20on%20Oct.-,7%3A%20'The%20state%20did%20not%20pass,the%20test%20of%20protecting%20them'&text=According%20to%20data%20released%20by,the%20Hamas%2Dled%20terrorist%20onslaught.[/url]

Your conspiracy theory is for children, all the oil well in Nigeria have names, all the corporation have names you can spin bullshit stories.

if 38 children killed and 48 kidnapped are true as u say, why is it that only times of israel carry this news? i mean, why has the israeli government refused independent investigation into the alleged crimes of hamas on oct 7?
as for oil well, why do u think, that babangida drove out BP from nigeria, in the early 80s?

smokinloud:
The teenagers under 18 years were IDF soldiers too?!
Don't worry it's just a few months Hamas will be wiped out and Gaza assimilated into Israel

the only civilians in the area, were those kids who came for the nova festival, criminality approved by the Israeli government after all the intelligence report from Egypt, Jordan, the united states, spotters from Gaza towers, citizens living close to the gaza fence wall, that an attack from Hamas was imminent. those kids, who survived, has since sued the Israeli government for culpability in the attack they suffered, which was indeed traumatic as 50 of the survivors have since committed suicide since oct7. and every single proof, points to the helicopter of IDF, which shot down those kids, and burnt all there cars, in the name of killing hamas.
as for israel defeating hamas, forget that one. even israel knows, that hamas cannot be defeated. it is already an accepted fact among the IDF war masters

smokinloud:
Don't be as foolish as the prophet of Islam. A part of her skull was discovered by dna and she was declared dead without her body being found then 1 week ago her body was found in a tunnel under the UNRWA building

so, why did they now find her dead yesterday all over again na? is like u are getting! they are always finding her dead, day by day

smokinloud:
A Jewish state founded by King David with historical and archaeological proofs was the first official state on the land. It had its capital in Jerusalem and it stretched from Israel to Syria(Damascus) and Jordan some 3000 years ago. There were never a Palestine state until 1960s. It was a region fought for by Jews and Arabs and it was shared into Jordan for the Arabs and Israel for the Jews. Muslims don't want Jews existence that's why they invented Palestine as a people in the 1960s

there is no proof, king David EVER EXISTED. ur bible fantasy has little base in reality. show me any map of this world, where Israel as a nation, ever was calligraphed, before 1948

sparko1:
Very funny, we still have the oil over 60 years, gold, lots of minerals and resources, this is a lame attempt to justify careless killing of defenceless civilians without an attempt at war.

u wrong. british control of nigeria oil has not waned even till today. they made sure to hold all the keys before they left. and as for defenseless civilians, only IDF is the one killing defenseless civilians. all the kubutz and vicinity Hamas operated on oct7, were all in militarized zones. and every single Israeli citizen above 18yrs are mandated to serve in the IDF for two years. so, wot do u mean defenceless civillian? even the women taken by hamas as stated by the OP of this post, were all soldiers and working on military duties that day.

lol. stinking Zionist propagandists

lol

sparko1:
All this almost made sense until the last paragraph.

Did any Nigeria Army visit the UK to kill and kidnap any to achieve this.

The biggest move then was newspaper, not weapons, peaceful agitation and protest.

thats cos, the british finished stealing all they wanted in nigeria back then, so nothing important anymore to stay to. so they left peacefully. can u say the same of kenya or algeria? or even india, where britain killed over 160million people just cos they asked for independence?

ScarletBrace:
You should have simply shut up and that would have been counted to you as wisdom , no matter the psycho syndrome you’re battling with. Your mental proficiency is worse than the efficiency of a dead clock. At least beings useful/correct twice in 24 hours for an object is twice a better bargain than a human who’s constantly stupid all through the same period.

read back ur own post again for a sec, and reconsider who actually is more xtupid
those women were deliberately abandoned by the IDF 100percent

Crafteck1:
If you believe that part, you would beleive he rose on the 3rd day too but that part no go sweet you as e no be pedophile

hamas must have done this

tctrills:
I guess Arafat is also from billionaire parents.
For many years, Rashid served as Arafat's financial advisor and was given a free hand to handle hundreds of millions of dollars that were poured on the Palestinian Authority and the PLO by the US, the EU and Arab donors. According to Rashid, Abbas's net worth was US$100 million.

A man's NET WORTH , is 100million USD, a sum Canelo saul Avarez earns in just two or three nights of boxing bouts. this is your example of a corrupt Palestinian politician spoilt by western funds? pathetic.
i dont want to continue this debate again.

smokinloud:
none of his point make sense. Everything is false indoctrination. There was never a Palestine country. It was entirely a Jewish land conquered by the Islamist then by British. From Ottoman to British mandate of Palestine then to Israel and Jordan. Palestine was never a country

it has never never been a jewish land. it has always been a Palestinian land even before the 5th century BCE

Vixenn:
I know you felt intelligent typing (till you were debunked), it's the trademark of very stupid people.


Lol

karma is a bitch.
moment dancing on tik tok to the genocide u committing in gaza went wrong

whirlwind7:
These video were made on October 7 - the day Hamas struck.
The girls shown have not been "eating all available Hamas food ration" as you put it.
This is the day they were taken hostage.

I guess you're too far gone in your extreme views to make any sense of it.

the women were all IDF soldiers, who all night leading to oct7 called on their military command to bomb the approaching Hamas militants. when their tower was eventually overran by hamas, i believe, those women should be called PRISONERS OF WAR and not abductees or hostages or any other soft kind of name dropping. the five women, i consider to be lucky indeed, cos hamas killed like 21 of their mates in that same room that morning. one of the women, was pictured on tik tok dancing away at the carnage israeli genocide was wrecking on gaza at the start of the war. only for her to be pleading that she has friends in gaza, when justice finally came knocking on her door. THE WOMEN ARE ALL SOLDIERS AND ARE NOT PART OF THE CIVILLIAN HOSTAGES TALKED ABOUT.