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jesusjnr2020:
That song happens to be one of my favorite songs of all time, especially after i decided to literally forsake everything and take up my cross to follow Jesus, as it resonated much with the reality of the selfless and sacrificial life i now lived, however at the time, i never even knew the amazing story behind the song.

I have come to realize that most, if not all, of the most inspiring and soul-uplifting Gospel songs were birthed out of the worst situations and most trying times in the lives of their composers.

Imagine how something that beautiful, which has made countless souls, including the villagers that watched him being persecuted and killed for the sake of Jesus and also the chief that killed him, could come out of the most ugliest of situations in the life of a man who defiantly refused to turn back from following Jesus even til the point of death.

It reminds me so much of the early church and her leaders where persecution and death couldn't stop them from following Jesus and preaching His Gospel to the world, instead the church kept advancing and marching on as many souls were being added to the church on a daily basis to the astonishment of their adversaries.

At a time when it's become normal for professing christians to turn against God and deny His existence at the slightest painful experience, setback or persecution, the church is in dire need of such die-hard followers of Christ whose example and testimonies would also inspire many souls to decide to follow Jesus never to turn back even to the point of death.

God bless.

In India today, Hinduism is 80% among the population. While Christianity is hardly 3%. All the so-called work of great missionaries like John Hyde were all exaggerated stories.

jesusjnr2020:
Story Behind The Song "I Have Decided To Follow Jesus (No Turning Back)"

About 150 years ago, there was a great revival in Wales, England.

As a result of this, many missionaries came all the way from England to northeast India to spread the Gospel.

The region known as Assam comprised of tribal communities that were quite primitive and well known for being hostile and aggressive.

The tribesmen were also called HEAD-HUNTERS because of a social custom which required the male members of the community to collect as many heads as possible, hence a man’s strength and ability to protect his wife was assessed by the number of heads he had collected. Therefore youths of marriageable age would try and collect as many heads as possible and hang them on the walls of his house, as the more heads a man had, the more eligible he was considered.

Into this hostile environment came a group of Welsh missionaries spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ but naturally they were not welcomed.

However, One Welsh missionary who was warned to go back because of the tribe's extremely hostile nature but ignored the warnings because he believed even these savage headhunters should have the opportunity to hear about the mercy of God, finally succeeded in converting a man, his wife, and two children.

The man, a Garo tribesman from the tribe of "Meghalaya" named 'Nokseng' and his family heard the Gospel and received Jesus as their Savior. The good news was too good to keep to themselves and they shared the Gospel with others in the tribe.

This man’s faith proved contagious and many villagers began to accept Christianity.

Angry, the village Chief summoned all the villagers, He then called the family who had first converted, to renounce their faith in public or face execution.

Moved by the Holy Spirit, the man sung his reply,
“I have decided to follow Jesus. No turning back.”

Enraged at the refusal of the man, the Chief ordered his archers to arrow down the two children and they did.

As both boys lay twitching on the floor, the Chief asked, “Will you deny your faith?
You have lost both your children already. You will lose your wife too.”

But the man replied, again singing,
“Though none go with me, still I will follow, No turning back.”

The Chief was beside himself with fury and ordered his wife to be arrowed down and she was. In a moment, she joined her two children in death.

Now he asked for the last time, “I will give you one more opportunity to deny your faith and live.”

In the face of death the tribesman looked the chief in the eyes and replied,
"The cross before me the world behind me no turning back, No turning back."

The chief could not believe his ears and shot the tribesman dead like the rest of his family.

Jesus said if a grain of wheat dies it bears much fruit, and that day many of the villagers who witnessed the persecution of that tribesman and his family also decided to follow Jesus - even the chief himself became a follower of Jesus Christ.

The tribes man's last words became the song of the village and today a hundred years later it is sung all around the world.

"I have decided to follow Jesus.

No turning back, no turning back."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iax9J4zKKjo&pp=ygUrc3RvcnkgYmVoaW5kIGkgaGF2ZSBkZWNpZGVkIHRvIGZvbGxvdyBqZXN1cw%3D%3D

Christianity and fake storys na 5&6.
Story that touch
Go to India now, and see how easy it is, to flog someone from Christianity into Hinduism.
All it takes na some few strokes of koboko

https://www.christianitydaily.com/news/christians-india-forced-reconvert-hinduism-report.html#:~:text=Forty

SIRTee15:
I've never seen anything like that guy in my life.

He initially insisted that Junia is a male name.
Later he changed mouth and claimed the right name is Junias and not Junia.
He sha doesn't want a female apostle in the bible.

He's so embarrassed by what's in his scriptures that he has to deny it.

Pay him no attention
He knows, he has no argument left, save blind dogma and sophistry

Truthseeker10:
1 Timothy 2:12-14 is clear enough of what should not happen in a church. A woman is not permitted to teach in the presence of believing brothers and sisters.

Nothing you wrote up there contradicts.

Fake religion
Vex go remove the woman bishop na!
The mumu OP does not even know his pope is a woman.

Truthseeker10:
From Google below:

plural noun: kinsmen
(in anthropological or formal use) a man who is one of a person's blood relations.

Junias is used for only a man. The following translations uses it below.

English Revised Version
Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.


American Standard Version
Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.


Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow prisoners: who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Catholic Public Domain Version
Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow captives, who are noble among the Apostles, and who were in Christ prior to me.

If you don't agree then rest.

Na u sabi
Ur religion na fake misogyny LIES.
Kontinue ur blind arguments

Truthseeker10:
kinsmen
Overview

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kinsman
noun
plural noun: kinsmen
(in anthropological or formal use) a man who is one of a person's blood relations.

Directly from google.

What is the meaning of kinsman ?
Kinsman means members of your family- who has blood relation to you. As kinsman is used for both male and female ; kinswoman, however, can be used for woman. The word kinsman comes from the word kin.

Adopted by a family; now he is searching for his kinsmen.
My kinsmen are a wild and barbaric folk.


https://www.vocabeasy.com/2024/03/kinsman-vs-relative.html

Thats the link.

Truthseeker10:
If Junia was a woman, why was a Greek word rendered 'kinsmen' used for her. Cam a woman be a kinsman?
Please type kinsman on Google.

English Revised Version
Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.


American Standard Version
Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.


Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow prisoners: who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Catholic Public Domain Version
Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow captives, who are noble among the Apostles, and who were in Christ prior to me.

Is Junias a female name?

Kinman is for both male and female.
NIV, ESN, KJV, BIBLE HUB, BIBLE.COM, COMMENTRY, BIBLE GATEWAY etc
Render it as Junia and Junia is a known feminine name

Truthseeker10:
So all translations that uses Junias are mysogynist?

The Greek word for countryman also means kinsman.

Kindly tell us what kinsman means oga dictionary.

Kinsman means members of your family- who has blood relation to you. As kinsman is used for both male and female; kinswoman, however, can be used for woman. The word kinsman comes from the word kin. Adopted by a family; now he is searching for his kinsmen. My kinsmen are a wild and barbaric folk. COPIED From Google

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣 I showed you a Greek word that is rendered countrymen and showed you evidence to render it that way correctly.

Where in Romans 16:7 did Paul say that they both were teachers teaching fellow brethren in the church?

Romans 16:7
Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was.
Apostle is the highest ministerial position in church. Junia was an apostle.
Junia is a WOMAN

Truthseeker10:
A prophetess does not mean a bishop or a teacher in the church.

Are you saying that there were no prophetess in the church when Paul gave the instruction in 1 Timothy 2:12-14?

A prophet is a ministerial position in church

The five-fold ministry is based on Ephesians 4:11 and refers to the following roles within the Christian church:
Apostles
Prophets
Evangelists
Pastors
Teachers

Stephen had 4daughters who were prophets Acts 21:9

Truthseeker10:
Below in the screenshot is more knowledge on why Paul used countrymen.

Berean Literal Bible
Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen
and my fellow prisoners, who are of note
among the apostles, and who were in
Christ before me

U see wot i mean ARGUING BLINDLY?
If we are to count translations, how many had Junia for Junias?
And how many experts disagree she is female?
Las las the majority go with female and your argument is invalid

Truthseeker10:
Here you go in the screenshot below.

Where did Paul say in that verse that they were teachers in the church of the gathering of Brethren?

U can say 'Man is a political animal', in referring to Kamala Harris. Man refers also to Woman.
Expert opinion is that Junia is female. To keep up the absurd countrymen argument is to argue blindly or persisting in error.
Paul alone cannot define Christianity

Truthseeker10:
I quoted a verse where Paul referred to them as 'countrymen' or 'kinsmen'. Where did Paul say in that verse that they were teachers in the gathering of Brethren?

Paul referred to them as co-workers. wot does that tell u?
He saw those women as peers, even older than him in ministry.

Truthseeker10:
Junia and Andronicus were men known to the apostles.

Like I said earlier. Women were permitted to join in teaching and preaching to non believers.

Having a church in one's home does the mean the person is a teacher or is a bishop of that church. A person's home can mean simply a place of gathering.
Women are not permitted to teach the brethren when they are gathered as a church.

Ur opinion is irrelevant
U dat don't even know that Junia IS A WOMAN
Put it to google. A woman can also be referred to as country man, chairman etc

Truthseeker10:
You have no point up there. If you have an issue with Paul as a person, why are you stressing?

So Paul's convert and that of the other apostles were allowed to contradict each other?

Paul contradicted Peter, contradicted Barnabas, how much more.
Show me any other teacher who said women should not talk in church aside Paul and tell me how Paul alone can suddenly be the alpha and omega of Christianity

Truthseeker10:
The bible has no issues with women teaching non believers that are not the church. Luke 8:3 shows that the word 'deacon' can mean something else apart from a teacher or what is stated in 1 Timothy 8-13. Luke 8:3 clearly shows that women ministered(deacon) unto Christ and his disciples.

lol
Women can teach non-believers but women cannot teach believers?
Deacon is teacher servant and many of the women deacons even had churches in their own homes and praised by Paul as CO-WORKERS of Christ
like Prisca, Junia, Julia, and Nereus' sister, who worked and traveled as missionaries in pairs with their husbands or brothers (Romans 16:3, 7, 15). He tells us that Prisca and her husband risked their lives to save his. He praises Junia as a prominent apostle, who had been imprisoned for her labor. Mary and Persis are commended for their hard work (Romans 16:6, 12). Euodia and Syntyche are called his fellow-workers in the gospel (Philippians 4:2-3). Here is clear evidence of women apostles active in the earliest work of spreading the Christian message.

Benekkk:
A Judge, true but never to administer or lead in worship or the Temple. NEVER!

The first judge was Samuel. Can you say similar things about Samuel? Deborah is same as Samuel in rank, power and position

Truthseeker10:
Lol...where did I say that Paul founded all churches?

Show me one apostle that contradicted Paul in the issue of women not teaching in church.

U appeared as suggesting Paul and church are 5&6. Which is false, cos others had their own converts as well.
No other apostle preached against women AT ALL.
Paul is not god, he is just a busybody misogynist

Truthseeker10:
1. You are playing smart to make 'deacon' and 'bishop' to mean the same thing. The Greek word for deacon and bishop is different.

2. The Greek word for deacon is not limited to a teacher of other brothers in the church as you can see from the screenshot below. It can also refer to a servant in church who serves In other capacity or areas of the church.

3. The same Greek word for deacon is used in Luke 8:3 to refer to women who served Jesus and his twelve apostles in providing for their needs. It definitely does not mean that those women were teaching Jesus and his apostles by being deacons to them.

4. Nowhere in the bible are women permitted to teach other Christian brothers in the church as deacons.

lol

1. No play on words.
In 1 Timothy 3:8-13 the requirement for deacon is laid out. Compare it to 1 Timothy 3:2-7 where dat of Episkopos or bishop was listed. Then tell me what is the difference? The two is basically the same, making the two positions, same.
Additional Timothy is referred to as diakonos in Paul's letters, yet people call him the bishop of Ephesus. Do u know why?
Then, neither of them is ministerial office, so what are they?

2. Ur screenshot say deacon is a servant teacher. i.e both. Not different. The servant must teach and the teacher must serve.

3. The women don't have to teach Jesus or disciples. They can teach others. eg the Samaritan woman by the well, who went to town to persuade others about the prophet who told her things.

4. Women called deacons in the bible, what gives u the impression they weren't teaching? Equally, men like Timothy called deacons, what gives you the impression they were teachers?

Truthseeker10:
Oga your argument is pointless. Are you now saying that Paul preached contradictory messages to different churches?

Was there any church that Paul permitted women to teach?

Paul did not found all churches. Infact he often disagreed with the other apostles on doctrine and in the gospel of Barnabas, Paul was referred to as a liar and a lunatic. which can be taken as a feeler to how some other medieval writers felt about him

Benekkk:
Deborah was a prophetess. Any body could prophesy. It's not the same thing. No woman ever entered the Holy of Holies or ministered in the Jewish Temple (or even synagogue) till date!
The Bible clearly says women can't take spiritual authority over men.

Deborah was not just a prophetess; she was also the judge of Israel. which was a spiritual/political leadership position over the entire nation

Truthseeker10:
Acts 18:26 clearly stated that Apollos was taken 'aside' to be clarified about the scripture by the couple.

1Cor 16:19 shows that the house of Aquila and Priscilla was used for church meetings. It didn't say that Priscilla was a teacher of brethren when they gathered in the church.

Ur problem is translation.
These women were clearly referred to as deacon[bishop] and presbyter
e.g I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a minister (diakonos) of the church at Cenchreae, so that you may welcome her in the Lord as is fitting for the saints, and help her in whatever she may require from you, for she has been a benefactor of many and of myself as well. Romans 16:1-2

Truthseeker10:
The work of a 'bishop' includes being a teacher in church according to 1 Timothy 3:2. A woman is not permitted to teach in church.

Priscilia taught Apollo inside Synagogue
Acts 18:26
He began to speak boldly in the synagogue; but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him aside and explained the Way of God to him more accurately

Priscilia taught in the church in her house
1 Corinthians 16:19: "The churches here in the province of Asia send greetings in the Lord, as do Aquila and Priscilla and all the others who gather in their home for church meetings

Women led churches b4 Paul became Christian. This fact should not be brushed aside.
If Paul does not like women, THATS HIS OWN PERSONAL PROBLEM.
How Paul's views are equated to the views of a god is another major fraud in Christianity.

happney65:
Bible or no Bible. Religion or no Religion. Mr Deji Yesufu is a misogynist. As much as I enjoy his writings sometimes, His stand on women is so glaring.

Saw him during the US Elections claiming one of the reasons why Kamala should not be President is because she is a Woman and women should not be in position of leadership

Opinions like that should be in the olden ages and for illeterates. Not Educated Men like Mr Deji

Start first from Apostle Paul, who is a bloody misogynist. Who even believed it is better NOT TO MARRY.
When Paul started out, he benefited from so many FEMALE BISHOPS, including the likes of Priscilla, Euodia, Syntyche etc.
Only for him to turn around condemning female ministers.

Romans 16:3-4
Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my co-workers in Christ Jesus. They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them
Acts 18:26
He began to speak boldly in the synagogue; but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him aside and explained the Way of God to him more accurately
accurately."
Romans 16:3: "Give my greetings to Priscilla and Aquila, my co-workers in the ministry of Christ Jesus."
1 Corinthians 16:19: "The churches here in the province of Asia send greetings in the Lord, as do Aquila and Priscilla and all the others who gather in their home for church meetings."
2 Timothy 4:19: "Give my greetings to Priscilla and Aquila and those living in the household of Onesiphorus

VBCampaign:
Deji Yesufu is the Pastor of Providence Reformed Baptist Church [/b]Ibadan. He is the author of HUMANITY.

...The impression we get from scripture is that the vast majority of church people will not be preacher – be they be male or female. Most of us will remain evangelists – using our platform to share gospel truths, and living these truths out to our unbelieving neighbours. In church, however, a few men will occupy positions of leadership as pastors and deacons. Among the pastors, a few will be teaching elders. That’s the biblical model. So, [b]when we say women cannot be preachers, we are not saying they cannot be evangelists

Source

This is the problem i have with Christianity

So many people pretend to expand infallible opinions about Christianity, who infact know very little or nothing about the religion.
Like this OP for instance
How on earth will a pastor, condemn ordination of women Bishopric- A post which is not even a ministerial office
Yet approve of female evangelist, which is the third highest ministerial church position?
Which is even higher than the office of pastor.
Evangelism is not just anyone street preaching, its an office in the church.

The five-fold ministry is based on Ephesians 4:11 and refers to the following roles within the Christian church:
1. Apostles
2. Prophets
3. Evangelists
4. Pastors
5. Teachers

The Christian faith is a myriad of confusion, susceptible to diverse bogus interpretation and populated by self-righteous, opinionated religious quacks, like OP. Who can cluelessly conclude that the foundation of western civilization is Christianity.

When Burna BOY go become Burna MAN?

OduduwaNow:
Focus on the topic..

me i have problem knowing difference btw BBL and real yansh

Dtruthspeaker:
1) Oh please na, spare me from not-Intelligent arguments.

When Aids/Corona hit who immediately knew that it was AIDS/Corona? Or why do you need doctors to confirm that a person is dead? Or why do you ask "I see ok no come work today, dem don sack am?

All these events first happened and then other people confirmed/verified their occurrence later.

2) You are so stuck on books that you forget that even before books were created, villages and communities and people were long in existence. And they all acknowledged and confirmed their awareness of hell, hence they had their own words for it. So, please you are not saying any valid thing.

lol

1. Ur argument is weak and empty. Sicknesses and death is all around us, they can be verified. Hell is FAKE MYTH, its existience CANNOT BE VERIFIED.
2. Am not talking about book. Europeans brought their fake hell belief to Africa. To have a name for a thing does not mean u originated it or u believe in it. AFRICAN AFTERLIFE BELIEVE IS REINCARNATION NEVER HELL.

Validated:
Wike NEVER wanted Fubara in 2027, just like Tinubu NEVER wanted Ambode in 2023. Same template, but different regions and different personalities. What worked in SW cannot work in SS, we are different.

All ur analysis is wrong. Tinubu is not the one who removed Ambode and Ambode could have fought the removal like Fabura. Everything u said about Lagos and Rivers is shallow

Dtruthspeaker:
1) Falls!
You have moved post to verifiable whereas many things hit us first before being verified eg diseases, sacking, death.

2) Hell exists only in the holybook yet every village and community in the world who have never read the supposed holybook know about hell and have a word for it. Please find another thing to say joor.

LOLs

1. How on earth can u verify disease, sack and death after they have occurred? Any experience of disease sack death is a verification in itself of their reality, IN REAL TIME, regardless, its happening to u or a neighbor. This why we say, SEEING IS BELIEVING.
2. The holybook copied hell from European myths and superstitions. Hell is not a part of African religious mysticism. It is also not found in Asian mystic beliefs. U can know about hell from FAKE PREACHING or copy culture and even have a term for it in local dialect does not connote it is an original belief of ur community, It also does not connote it is a true belief.
In Africa and Asia the belief is reincarnation not Hell, as an afterlife occurrence

SouthSouth1914:
Lies.., he had issues he created with his boss.

Runtown win d case for court.
Just pray make u no fall into bad contract

osuofia2:
Aside Runtown and techno others na Auto tune boys. Runtown fall is because of greed. He wanted to outsmart his records label and the rest is history. Just the same route Awake is going against ybnl record, his eyes go soon clear

Samething Olamide do to Ig Kabasa.
After Olamide contract finish with Coded Tunes, Kabasa offered him another contract
Olamide refused and went to start YBNL, which has actually helped many artistes till date.
So, people stylishly wishing Asake failure dey waste time
Cos na his turn to create Label to help next generation of upcoming artistes