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gohf:
1. When He is too rich to clean up trash, you throw it away

2. Oh the earth you live in created itself and doesn't want you to live more than 100yrs on it. So tell us has the earth told you why you are on it. Even the earth is 71% water and your body isn't up to 80%, so you have told a lie while accusing others of a lie that you have no proof of.


3. So you agree you are gullible

4. Including you

5. If you could see the difference you wouldn't be blind now would you, you already said heaven and hell are connected, so you thinking god and devil are the same is because the god you know is the false god who is actually the devil.

6. They are not important yet the question is, whether you trusted them or why you didn't doubt them

7. So you don't need proof before you believe something is a lie, yet you spend time asking for what you don't even need when you can easily believe whatever you want.

8. If their is fake then the original is somewhere. Why not tell us where they got the lie from that they used in stealing from you.

1. A whole house cannot be regarded as thrash, simply cos its infested
2. The earth is over 4billion yrs old and was probably formed from another larger planet dat disintegrated. Water percentage in man, is age dependent and can even be as high as 84% in babies. The only lie here, is dat one god made man 100% from dust
3. How can i be gullible wen i know hell is fabrication?
4. There is no hell
5. KJV of 1611 translated the name Eli-sha, as Eli-zeus. Clearly Jah is Zeus or Satan. Those who created a place of reward, created a place for punishment. its not so difficult to see
6. The trust or doubt in age/name is of secondary importance.
7. What u don't need, is a 100% proof to know truth. sometimes 10% proof is enough
8. The Greeks once called the earth hades, cos the surface was hot. This is where hell came from.

gohf:
1. if you built a house and it got infested and you remove every good and valuable thing from it, would you not burn it down and build a better place for what you value.

2. The one who created the earth you live in, is going to remove it, then he who owns it tells you to leave it but you refuse, don't you think you have a problem.

3. You are talking about gullible people, what do you think you own in this world. Go ahead and tell us, so that the day you leave this world you will leave with it as well, after all it's yours is not.

4. They are gullible but you are wise, o wise one share your wisdom with us.

5. I agree religion is used by the devil to destroy people or prevent people like you from even seeking the truth, but you think you're better than those gullible ones and you dont see yourself as gullible as well.

6. They told you this is all there is to life and you yourself believe it, without proof, well did you ever argue why your name is your name or ever wondered if the certificate of your birth is fake, why because there was no reason to doubt, you completely trusted those who told you.

7. Here you are calling others gullible when you don't have 100% complete proof that what you have accepted of yourself is actually true, but you still believe it, why, because you need to.

8. Now in your own imagination told you both places are connected and you believe, in your words, obviously, but you are not gullible. Do you have proof that they are connected because they are from some theory you mentioned

See confusion

1. Why should i burn down my house cos its infested? Can't i fumigate it?
2. god did not create the earth in which I live in. U can't substantiate dat and I have no interest in such fake gods. Ur bible say god made man from dust? While science shows man is 80% made of water. U people should stop dis ridiculous LIES
3. Gullibility has nothing to do with wot i own in dis world. People believe nonsense like hell, dats d fact
4. People are gullible, no doubt about that
5. There is no difference between god and devil. They just different names for same person.
6. I can change my name and age anytime i like. Those things are hardly important.
7. U don't need 100% complete proof to tell if something is a lie or truth. hell is pure lie
8. Heaven and hell was fabricated by the same religious fools bent on controlling everyone. Infact previously they were collecting money from people like u as the only way to escape hell.

drstranged:
Read the book first and your eyes will be opened

My eyes will open to what?
How about u answer my question?
What makes heaven so comfortable,
wen its filled with robbers, rapists, kidnappers etc?

janeedema:
A biter, petty soul you say?

Well, righteousness can only make sense with justice. Sometimes, we say things but don’t even understand its import.

What was your reaction when you saw the gospel Artist who beheaded his girlfriend? Now, assuming the girl he beheaded was your acquaintance or relative? Would you ask the judge to forgive the gospel artist?

That God is love only makes sense with effecting justice. Even the devil will call God a liar if those who do treacherous things are allowed to go unpunished.

And to avert that, He told Christ to die and called those who wanted to escape death to embrace His salvation. The blood shed on the cross wasn’t a comedy show.

The wages of sin is death and Adam brought that death on mankind through disobedience. The consequences was clearly spelled out to him, but he went ahead nevertheless because of greed.

The devil was already being judged for treachery and wanted God to condemn His creation— the creation He bragged about and prided in which was why he deceived him in the garden.

God who said He has esteemed His word above His name needed to prove that His word meant something. So man had to live with the consequences of his sin because God’s throne is seated in righteousness and justice.

Because He is love, He provided a way of escape, such that those who embrace Christ can avoid the doom that Adam already purchased for mankind—-willfully.

So if you head off to hell because you refuse salvation, the problem isn’t God.

God didn’t design hell for man initially but for the angels who left their first estate.

So the chance to escape hell is still available. Salvation is God’s way of saving man from the consequences of the sin brought upon us by our forefather—Adam.

Calling God bitter for making hell clearly shows you are misinformed. I’ll urge that you don’t wait till the end of your age to find out if hell is real or not. It will be too late.

You lose nothing by accepting Christ as Lord and personal savior.

Shalom.

Good/evil are matters of personal designation. They don't exist in themselves.
There was a time wen u could behead anyone SIMPLY BECAUSE U COULD and that was ok by society.
Till 2moro sef, u can behead someone on a battlefield and get national award for it.
Wen Moses went up the mountain, he came with a commandment, which said THOU SHALL NOT KILL.
But violated the command immediately by killing people he saw worshipping idols

Righteousness2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=robmswIOBpg?si=JnGp1uLkT0E6OAtT

CGPA of 4.98 is impressive no doubt.
The boy is very bright. And perhaps na ELA sef, drop 0.02 scores for the guy, which is too crazy to imagine.
Nevertheless, somethings said here are just FABU.
I know that year, wen petrol engineering, graduated two first class guys.
which is great, considering that petrol engineering is a tiny department.

gohf:
so you believe both sides are connected?

Obviously.
The two places are from the theory of reward / punishment advanced by religion to cement control over gullible people

drstranged:
It's one of two things. It's either you're saved by Jesus Christ in which case you have no need to fear hell because you're going to heaven, OR your conscience is completely dead to that reality because you now constantly live in sin and taken over by the science of this world. It's the Holy Spirit that brings that constant reality to the sinner. As you keep on opposing him and wanting to live by your own terms, at a point he gives up. At that point, your conscience becomes dead. This is a very dangerous stage in the life of every unbeliever.

You should read the book "HELL IS FULL OF GOOD PEOPLE". It's on Amazon. You'd be very enlightened.

If "HELL IS FULL OF GOOD PEOPLE", then HEAVEN IS FULL OF BAD PEOPLE. Which begs the question, how can people in heaven sleep easy, when their neighbor, was the robber on the right side of the cross of calvary?

gohf:
............


Honestly like I said initially the existence of hell shouldn't be a disturbance to any good person honestly. Like do you go about your daily life as "an upright citizen" being afraid or scared of prison.

If it exists what can you do about it
If it doesn't would that make you feel free to be wicked
Or are you looking to make a contract with hell.

Concern yourself more with if heaven is real or not, if those who do good would be rewarded

If hell does not exist, then heaven does not exist.
If hell does not exist, then every religion advocating such is a fraud, unreliable and should be scrapped

Proudlyngwa:
@ queengee

Hell is real, but it is certainly not a fire.

Just something a little bit worse.

And wot may that be?

gohf:
why did you ignore the part of nightmares?

Nightmare is not dream

Dtruthspeaker:
What a fallacious response.

So as govt have the threat of throwing you in prison, or your boss has the threat of sacking you, they are not real, right?

Ur response is even more fallacious
Govt threat of prison or boss threat of sack are easily verifiable realities, compared to the religious delusion of Hell, which only exist as a fairytale in a fraudulent, supposed holybook. Wherein, one particular chapter, can be subject to thousands of different absurd interpretations, depending on which denomination u worship

D00msDay:
Ohh. Do u now agree the prisoners being held by Israel are Hamas terrorists? I tot u guys said they are innocent Gazans and they are majorly kids and women? Truth is coming out gradually.

Why will Israel release Hamas terrorists already in jail, cos of ceasefire they vetoed 4times?
Why u no wan answer?

D00msDay:
Na the ceasefire them receive as a new year gift so na. Badass Netanyahu. After Iran decides to running it's mouth about how the ceasefire was a victory for Hamas, Netan just sent them a little present for the ceasefire victory celebration.

For 15months of Israel bombings, which of the bomb release hostages?
Why Israel dey collect ceasefire after it was vetoed 4times?
After Israel refused to send Gallant to America, cos Biden no veto the 5th ceasefire?
Why Israel wan release 1000 Hamas already in jail sake of ceasefire?
Useless noise making Israel.
even if Israel mess, people like u, go call am scent

D00msDay:
Oga Gaza is a dead city and a new Israel territory. No more freedom to do anyhow. U do anyhow u see anyhow.

Hamas and Hezbollah both lost out. All their leaders dead. Their strength weakened. Their stronghold destroyed and captured. 😂

And Israel is asking for ceasefire?
And hostages from dead Hamas in a dead Gaza?
dey whyne

Ovacoma:
Israel controlling the media? Tell haniyen and sinwar to come out and control the media. Continue to celebrate your foolish victory with your heroes, (haniyen and sinwar)

U seem to forget Col. Ehsan Daqsa?
who commanded the Israel Defense Force’s 401st Armored Brigade, was killed in battle in the Jabaliya area of northern Gaza

Do u want more zionist names sent to hell by hamas?

billyG:
You are are worst terrorist than hamas,an hypocrite so #20m dead meant nothing to you....you than join others to shout genocides.
Istrael are build for war even before mohammed was born or anything you call palestine exist,israel still exist where are d romans that falsely named israel"palestine" today?

If israe is built for war, then why did the fools accept ceasefire?
I tot Israel veto it 4times? Useless nation.
Palestinians are ready to sacrifice the whole nation to get a Palestinian state. Cry if necessary.
Then get ready for another Oct 7, which will be d 7th war btw Israel and Hamas.
Before Romans ever exist, the place has been Palestine. Cry harder

LordReed:
Good that you acknowledge that you don't know what the ToE is about. Like I told you previously it has nothing to do with crossbreeding so your zedonk example has nothing to do with the ToE.

DNA is passed on from parent to child, that is why you can do a paternity test.

I do not believe things. I accept facts. The ToE is an established fact.

Paternity test does not reduce the fact that DNA is entirely unique to each and every individual. Perhaps the test helps to establish from who's DNA,
the child's own DNA was produced, who cares?
DNA is like fingerprints, entirely personal.
So, humans only have the DNA of humans, regardless of individuality.
There is something known as DNA of HUMANS.
Zedonk, neither has the DNA of Donkey nor dat of Zebra.

Crossbreeding has nothing to do wit evolution? But can u crossbreed different genus?
What is the name of any crossbred animal across genus, alive today?
This is why minotaur exist only in myths.
Crossbreeding is proof of evolution.

U have no facts. Just meaningless dubious reasoning, useless in the context of this debate.

LordReed:
1. Ok so you just said something the ToE doesn't not state or imply.

2. You don't know that you carry your parents DNA?

Verdict: You don't know anything about the ToE or genetics.

You must be trolling.

Ur verdict is entirely ur responsibility. I honestly don't care.

1. I was honest from start. I don't know ToE even has sections.

2. DNA is unique in every human. No two is alike.

What do u believe? Else, don't take offence if i fail to respond

LordReed:
1. Yes it has sections. Quote where the theory states that says every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds. Quote any part of the ToE that says this.

2. A father or mother; one who begets or one who gives birth to ... a child.
An organism (plant or animal) from which younger ones are obtained
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/parent

Biological parents: The biological parents are the father and mother who provide the child's DNA.

Good

1. Nice to know, u know the sections of ToE, so, u are in d best position to answer ur question.
Zedonk is sufficient 4me, as proof that members of a genus can mate to produce a surviving offspring

2. Alright, why don't u try PARENT btw two different Genus?
I have seen a Ship, that was raped by a man, give birth, to a twisted being,
who died upon delivery.
The DNA of Zedonk is neither Zebra nor Donkey. U don't have the DNA of ur parents.
Zedonk cannot produce Zedonk.


Pls sir, i will like u to clarify ur position in relation to d debate.
The gentlemen i started this talk with believed humans came from evolution.
And rejected creation. So, my debates have consistently attempted to show the limitations of evolution.
What is ur own believe?

LordReed:
1. Kindly quote the section of the ToE that says every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds.

2. Wait, you need me to explain the relationship of parent and offspring to you?

In all honesty, i am unaware ToE has sections?

Notwithstanding

1. A Genus is supposed to be be a family name, consisting of sub-families. There has to be some form of relationship btw the sub-families within that family? Call it what u choose, cousin, brother nephew or niece. No matter.
Then, the success of crossbreeds within genus, is hardly contestable. Its evident in several hybrid animals alive today.
Among which, is Zedonk

2. Yes
I will be relieved if u could help me with that info.
Cos the last i checked, crossbreeds can never reproduce themselves.
If u want Zedonk, it only has to come by cross and cross alone.
Zedonk looks neither like a zebra nor like a donkey and probably doesn't even behave like them.
So i need u to explain to me.

Epiphanyglobal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pl152QZCbA

Anyone who knows the Shakespearean story Macbeth, can relate on how fatality destructive witches' stories can end.
Believe witches at ur own risk

billyG:
There destiny to die like desert flies abi...how do you terrorist reason sef?just look at d needless lives lost & structures destroyed,sinwar,nasrallah,haniyeh & co liquidated,gaza annexed & still no independent state.....all i see is starvation,sorrow,tears & blood.
What has the war achieved for hamas.
Stupidity is repeating d same actions over & over & getting worst results.

U go cry taya!
Israel will never be free of attacks until a Palestinian state is formed.
If Palestinians are dying and houses are falling, how is dat ur concern?
Do u know how many Russians died in their struggle against Hitler? 20million!
U cannever taste freedom in dis world if u not ready for sacrifices.
Stop talking nonsense and start preparing for the next Oct7!
Cos as long as one single Palestinian is alive,
no Israeli Zionist swine should be allowed,
to breathe the air of Palestine

olusipimp:
Because you're not known in ur street, not to talk of the sphere of the world, so, swerve go one side.

Very low minded people filled with inferiority complex.
How many Americans came to the inauguration of the president of Nigeria?
Na so some of una go UK for King Charles inauguration, sleep for street for days, to see a man, who did not give as much as a fart, about ur presence and even DELIBERATLY REFUSED to shake hands with some of you, in full view of live TV.
No wonder, Oyinbos dey call una black-monkey

LordReed:
Tell me you don't understand the theory of evolution without telling me.

1. DNA

2. Evolution is not artifical crossbreeding of species. Zedonk did not evolve, it was crossbred but yes it is related to both.

Interesting!

1. Keep in mind, that evolution teaches the Genus structure, which is supposed to be home to species of similar DNA patterns.
If this is true, then every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds

2. Ofcourse evolution is not crossbreeding
So, should a male Zedonk mate a female Zedonk, what do you think their offspring would look like?
Donkey? Zebra?
I mean, what do you mean Zedonk is related to its parents?

Ovacoma:
hamas has won, Gaza is free , Gaza has recovered, no damage to hamas , haniyen and sinwar can now come out to celebrate their victory over the Jewish state. So, u don't know the losers of this war? Mentally underdeveloped imbeciles can't reason well!

Like i said, Israel can control all d media narration to paint a foolish scores 4mumus like u.
But behind closed doors, Israel knows power has changed hands!
Continue to celebrate rubbish

billyG:
Who cares if isreal has casualties just look at d score board.
Istrael really dealth with them: isreali:2000 vs hamas/palestanian 60,000 deaths

Like i said, Israel can control all d media narration to paint a foolish scores 4mumus like u.
But behind closed doors, Israel knows power has changed hands!
Continue to celebrate rubbish

billyG:
Who cares if isreal has casualties just look at d score board.
Istrael really dealth with them: isreali:2000 vs hamas/palestanian 60,000 deaths

Believe any lie scores Israel is feeding you with.
All Israel does is tell lies.
But in private, they know all the harm Hamas brought on Israel,
From which Israel can never recover.

Chinese president Xi was invited by Trump to the inauguration, but Xi rejected the offer.
Look at the way Nigerians are celebrating attending inauguration, like say na lifetime achievement.
Yeye

Ovacoma:
Hamas has won, let the celebrations begin! And remember to invite the heroes of the war to the party, I mean heroes like haniyen, sinwar, nasrallah, dief and others that boasted that they would exterminate the state of Israel. Welcome sir

I guess people like u will never realize how deceived u are till its too late?
Or why do only know Hamas' casualties as though Israel had no casualties?
Israel, who was saying no no no to ceasefire, is today signing d same ceasefire, on d same page with Hamas, who Israel had boasted would no longer be allowed to represent Gaza?
Shame on Israel

D00msDay:
Krismas, Madridguy. Is this the victory u guys have been musturbating to like y'all won some sort of jackpot?

Penny wise pound foolish
Some of the Israeli hostages awaiting freedom following the ceasefire were also killed by Israel with Israeli bombs

Abu Obaidah: After announcing the agreement, the enemy army targeted a place where one of the female prisoners of the first stage of the expected deal was located

Any aggression and bombing at this stage by the enemy could turn the freedom of a prisoner into a tragedy.

Numerouno94:
Oga Israel is still bombing Gaza as we speak. Seems ur not current.
Btw, hope u knw Donald Hassan Ayomide Ikechukwu Trump aka the Islamic extremist and terrorist slayer has threatened and u knw he has zero tolerance for Islamic terrorists and their sympathizers like u guys. So expect a full blown blockbuster movies in the coming months. Wat a time to be alive.

Wen has gaza cared about Israeli bombs?
How many hostages did bomb free?
Trump is just a noise maker. He was the first to negotiate with Taliban about running away from Afghan.
Wen u ask people hyping Trump like ursef,
What will he do differently from Biden,?
U will see very quickly they don't have the faintest idea

Numerouno94:
Oga rest. Gaza is gone. The little independence that Gaza had prior to that OCT7 attack is gone. Israel has taken full control of Gaza. Again i said; the little independence Gaza had prior to that attack is gone. Israel has taken total control over Gaza. Israeli military presence will continue to keep control of Gaza. Now tell me who lost? All Hamas heads are dead. Gaza has bn destroyed. Palestinians lost their lives due to the cowardice of Hamas who hide under their wives wrappers.

Have u seen the aftermath of the California wildfire? That's wat Gaza is at the moment. So wat victory are u guys celebrating?

U don't even want me to update u what israel suffered in d 15month war.
Israel lost to Hamas
And the downfall of Israel is surer dan ever. Israel will be uprooted from the middle east sooner than later
Be deceiving ursef