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Tonnyray:
Exactly.
Story for the gods.
Either outrightly fake or utterly exaggerated BS scripted to generate the usual frenzy.
What prevented him from mentioning the name of the pastor and church?
Just another antichrist church bashing thread so over to the bashers for your usual feel good fix.

Infact, there are worse cases of church exploitation sef

Hier:
Firstly, Pastors have their own life

Secondly, Pastors are not working. If they are not working, where should they find money

Thirdly, in my little work with God, I discovered when you help a member of your church. They keep coming over and over and when you stop giving. They stop coming to church.

Ur comment made no sense
Pastor no dey collect salary?

smokinloud:
1 The Arab world entirely receive more aids than Israel
2. and they all wanted Israel's annihilation until after 1960s
3. when some, on seeing Israel's strength, started seeing the reality that Israel is going nowhere.
4. Why would USA give aids to Iran?.
5. Terrorism to Abduls are Christians and Jews trying to decolonise their land. Go drink ur camel urine and stop mentioning me.

U know by ursef, that ur contributions are rubbish. Thats why u don't want to be quoted
1. How much is American aid to the entire Arab world? Without the Arab world, America will collapse dis evening. Who is helping who?
2. When has Saudi Arabia ever fought Israel?
3. Which mumu Israel strength that cannot defeat Hamas in 15months?
4. U said America give aid to the Islamic world. Is Iran not Islamic world?
5. Gibberish. I can't even decide d nonsense

smokinloud:
The purpose of US military aids is to ensure stability.which many Arabs states have failed. Egypt still experience terrorism though it's trying and combating it but the entire Arab world don't have anything to show for the US aids given to them. The topic is not about Egypt Abdul.

What is American aid to Iran?
All u do is talk nonsense confidently.
U don't know what terrorism is and u are denying wot u said earlier?
Which is dat Egypt receive more aid dan Israel
Now its no more about Egypt?

smokinloud:
Egypt is still fair and battling with terrorism fairly compared to other Arab and muslim majority states like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq etc.

Ur definition of TERRORISM is useless.
Don't change the topic. Tell us how Egypt have received more ALMS
dan the king of beggars Israel?
And how did Egypt misuse d alms?

smokinloud:
Let any country attack US first then watch how her territory is levelled and occupied in few days. Zionism is an ideology. Whoever believes Israel should exist is a Zionist. You can't dictate how a country spends its money. The Arab nation, most especially Egypt, has received more than what Israel has received without showing any positive result for it.

How much has Egypt received?
And what are u expecting them to show for it?

Over the last 75yrs, every single move of Zionism, has weakened the State of Israel progressively
Its safe to say, Zionism is too violent to exist for long and will finally herald d destruction of Israel

I cannot even sell my dog for N10m under this circumstance.
When anyone is offering sick money, shine ur eye.
Cos more often than not, they seeing something in the woman, you not seeing

goran3310:
I love this thread. All those who would sell their fiancees should come forward. I'm buying fiancees. Payment in cash.
$ €

PS:

For all those who wonder how slavery began. Here it is. Whites didn't come on ships and capture blacks. No. Everyone was bought from someone else. Once. For colorful beads. For two spoons. For a meter of cloth. For a glass pendant. And now. For a handful of smelly money. Yes. Or do you think 15 sailors can catch 200 blacks, shackle them and load them on a ship. Bring your fiancees. Payment in cash.

Dude, u're very very wrong.
Trading slave and Slave trade are two different things.
No culture in dis world didn't trade their own people as slaves.
But slave trade of Africans was a governmental enactment of many western and Arabian countries.
And many times, people were forcefully snatched by foreign nationals and shipped as slaves

jaephoenix:
In medicine, we have a saying. Never say never. There are phenomena which we can't explain scientifically, like folks coming back to life after being certified dead. There are many theories but research is still ongoing. We cannot attribute it to any supernatural because there is no evidence and it happens to folks of all religion, even atheists

Don't u think ur statement is contradictory?
a. We can't explain near death scientifically
b. We can't attribute it to any supernatural for want of evidence

I suppose, one can say, whatever defy every natural explanation is supernatural already. With no further evidence required.

Also, i believe u are not completely forthcoming about science's perspective on the supernatural

1b8m:
Doctors that certified me clinically dead? That were waiting for my family to authorize them to transfer me to the mortuary?

Bros check my profile you'll realize I'm not a religious person! I stated the experience as it was. I don't know if it's Jesus or anything, but I am most certain it was by divine intervention I came back to life!

And I'm grateful to whatever God did that!

I believe ur near death experience.
Don't mind Jaephoenix. He is a chronic unbeliever.
I heard of a case sef,
that even had to stay 3days in the morgue
b4 regaining consciousness.

Wow Hamas is really defeated!
They started the war with 20batllions
and finished the war with 24batallions
What a defeat

Since the Gaza ceasefire
Itamar Ben Givir have resigned from Natanyahu government
The likes of Bezalel Smotrich and Daniella Weiss, who boasted for 15months
that Gaza will be taken over by Israel, Palestinians displaced and Hamas annihilated.
Were seen on cable TV, weeping that ISRAEL HAS BEEN HUMILIATED
Even now, Natanyahu is running up and down, trying to force the war against Iran,
Completely careless of the thickening plot to cage in his country
The matter is real simple, Its either Israel accept a Palestinian state,
Or forget about the state of Israel
Meanwhile, i hope technical error will not force Natanyahu's
plane to land in one of those countries ready to enforce ICC ruling
Cos he is wanted in Hague for crimes against humanity

jaephoenix:
Dude youre talking to a doctor. What did you encounter in the ICU

I remember u now
U are the doctor who ought to have studied philosophy or theology

jaephoenix:
He for kill am patapata.
Btw, its not asphyxiation that he'll have. Its aspiration, leading to aspiration pneumonitis

lol
U must have some medical competence. Nice one

kayperry:
Hindu that has no source, no spiritual god, that one naa religion.

Hindu is just a fusion of various believe, without evidence thats not real

Go to jerusalem places you read in the bible will be shown to you, where jesus was born, crucified and buried, they are verifiable

So you believe in hindu but God is made up prof. kaa rè

U know nothing about Hinduism.
Then, i didn't tell u, i believe in Hindu religion.
Am only showing u something older than 200yrs, since u said no such thing.
As 4Christianity, all those useless sites they show u in Jerusalem as Jesus areas ARE ALL FAKE.
There was nowhere known as Nazareth in d Levant 2000yrs ago
They had to fake the city in a hurry, pretty recently, so Jesus story can make sense
Sincerely, Christianity must be synonymous to stupidity
Since all wot u people believe in, is LIES upon LIES

kayperry:
IF my religion is fake it wont survive over 2000 years, show me one original thing that as last 200yrs

not even your favourite duracell, stop arguing whats beyond your IQ grade

Its doubtful if Christianity is 2,000yrs old.
But the Hindu religion is about 3,500yrs old.

Zidac:
All that failed but Jesus brought him back.

Those who didn't come back, Jesus no brought them? Including bro. Mike, wey fellowship errand, lead into fatal accident.
The whole fellowship do ALL-NIGHT prayer with the dead body, make Jesus for wake am
For where? Na next morning d family go bury am
Dem no dey see Jesus for that kind one

Zidac:
I know you will pick that line . He wasn't convulsing, he was dead, no pulse, no breathing, the eyes were out as red as crimson, very big. There was no life in him. Thank God for His Spirit. He worked through the anointing oil and brought him back. This is the truth, personal experience no third party report.

No pulse? Am sure na stethoscope u take check?
His eyes were sticking out? Whatelse be convulsion?
Get out of ur feeling

kayperry:
science is practical abi, slit your hand and bleed non stop lets see,

The funniest thing about your arguement is downplaying bleed loss for a man,

a patient took himsef from house to the chemist, e no shock for house naa when chemist treat him finish he cum "shock"

abeg shock for what!! panic after treatment, are you a comedian 🤣🤣

U don't seem to know what slit wrist means?
Chemist cant treat dat.
OP was shocked and panicky right from his house.
And there is no much blood in the place he cut. Infact skin in dat place is pretty thin, if u cut ursef there, u'll see bone.
I have accidentally cut myself with a machete once in the leg
Which left a gaping hole in my bone at the knee.
Stop all this sensationalism. Ur religion is too fake abeg

kayperry:
i didnt know losing blood could pass for "insignicant case" maybe we should slit your wrist n lose mere 3 litres for a test

i have seen people die from sleep how much more faint, insignificant my ass

visit the hospital n spend just 1month moving around you will acknowledge God

Get out of ur feeling
He didn't split his wrist or cut any vein.
If the cut was really dat serious, the chemist wouldn't have handled it.
The faint is not from blood loss but shock and unnecessary panic.
4get fake testimony jor

Ballo1292:
Hmm,

Believe me, you will account for this your blasphemy on the day of judgement.

It is better to keep quiet than to bring course and unimaginable punishment upon yourself and lots.

May God have mercy on you.

Get over ur feeling
There is no day of judgment
This religion is a complete fabrication

The one on far right is female
Reason
Two of her finger bones on each hand are equal in length

Themandator:
Underline the exact verse or clause where this baptism took place in all you pasted here



Bishop Ibiyeomie doesn't need another baptism as he is manifesting the reality of the baptised life, already




A statement he made and you insulted him for is what you are still going round and round fishing for concrete truth to counter


Please send the message to your mentor, may he will have an opinion on it as for you, on this matter, the man is right and you are wrong


All messages are not for every Christian.... There is a milk message for folks like you... Somebody like him cannot teach in your church... Your spiritual depth is still at infancy... And you noticed that he spoke to a matured crowd.. His members


There is a difference between preaching and teaching.... His ministry is a teaching ministry not a preaching ministry... It is a workshop that takes you through the route of self dependence on spiritual warfare than keeping you running from prayer house to prayer and ending in Sunday I your orthodox Church... Neither a member of the prayer houses nor the orthodox Church where you put in attendance on Sundays

No!


1 Peter 2 v 2 says desire the milk of the word and grow into adulthood otherwise even though you are destined for something better you remain a slave Gal 4 v 1
2 disciples followed Jesus and spent the day and you concluded that they became Baptised

Until jesus died and resurrected there was no other form of baptism but water baptism. Once you have it from John or Jesus disciples you have it.. One wasn't inferior to the other.

Rubbish
The so-called pastor is a beggar trying to prevent others from begging, so he will have no competition at begging.
I don't need his beggarly teachings
As for u, U don't know ANYTHING. Its clear from all ur epileptic responses.
But no more for now.
A stupid post on a glorified beggar
should not be allowed to exceed 10pages of contributions.
Bye

Zidac:
I know I will see comments like this one. A friend froze and dropped dead while eating right before my very eyes without any illness that I know of. His eye balls popped out then I could see how big a human eyes are. While people were crying, I quietly asked the Lord what to do and I heard Reach out for the anointing oil in your box. Immediately I dropped the oil in his mouth , it was as if water was boiling on the fire . I just muttered it's well. Instantly he jerked up with a force that I cannot explain we poured him water on the head and he laid back on the ground and started sleeping for many hours. When we took him to the hospital we were told that there was nothing wrong with him . God brought him back to life

Next time avoid pouring liquid into the mouth of someone convulsing. U almost asphyxiated d poor fellow, while forming broda spiro

Conclusion reached by the OP after his subjective experience, is d issue.
a. Any shout will revive his faint
b. The hand is still d most regenerative part of man

OP is guilty of religious sensationalism

victorVIC1:
Who get time for back and forth with kids.

OK then
Give us one mature testimony

Zidac:
I know I will see comments like this one. A friend froze and dropped dead while eating right before my very eyes without any illness that I know of. His eye balls popped out then I could see how big a human eyes are. While people were crying, I quietly asked the Lord what to do and I heard Reach out for the anointing oil in your box. Immediately I dropped the oil in his mouth , it was as if water was boiling on the fire. I just muttered it's well. Instantly he jerked up with a force that I cannot explain we poured him water on the head and he laid back on the ground and started sleeping for many hours. When we took him to the hospital we were told that there was nothing wrong with him . God brought him back to life

So, u have enough qualification to confirm someone as dead?
People can faint, all u have to do is lie dem down in an airy place, with raised legs and pour water on dem. U can also add, SHOUTING OUT THEIR NAME

kayperry:
Lemme repeat what you just said back to yours ears ... someone is losing consciousness base on " blood deficiency" and you believe screaming that person name is what revived the person

Do you know a defibrillator and what it does even with all that electrical shock i have seen it failed ...
If screaming patient name is that effective, hospitals will have loudspeakers and not defibrillator .. we all go school but that doesnt mean we dont know when God show up for us.

There are levels to shock treatment required to revive patients. For insignificant case of faint, a shout is sufficient.

Themandator:
If you cannot understand the bible as written how the do you hope to revive the rhema?

. This points to the facts that you don't have the baptism of the Holy Spirit



Jesus made disciples, more followers than John. The scripture didn't say the new followers were deom John stock



‘¹ When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
² (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)’
((KJV+) John 4:1-2)

John 1:35-40

35 The next day John was there again with two of his disciples. 36 When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, “Look, the Lamb of God!”

37 When the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus. 38 Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, “What do you want?”

They said, “Rabbi” (which means “Teacher”), “where are you staying?”

39 “Come,” he replied, “and you will see.”

So they went and saw where he was staying, and they spent that day with him. It was about four in the afternoon.

40 Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, was one of the two who heard what John had said and who had followed Jesus.

So,
a. John's disciples did cross carpet
b. Jesus conducted fresh baptism for his disciples

Therefore, Jesus rebaptised John's disciple

Now, wen are u baptizing Ibiyeomen?

Themandator:
Paul didn't administer water baptism


When in doubt start from the beginning


This is what you ought to have done



Here is the scripture you photoshop for effects

Paulasked if they have revived the holy ghost baptism.. Even you don't have this hence your lack of understanding even of letters in plane sight





‘² He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
³ And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
⁴ Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
⁵ When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
⁶ And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.’
((KJV+) Acts 19:2-6)

Paul administered water baptism
I told u already, u dont know the Christian religion.

Acts 19 Amplified

Paul at Ephesus

1 It happened that while (C1)Apollos was in (C2)Corinth, Paul went through the (C3)upper inland districts and came down to (C4)Ephesus, and found some disciples.2 He asked them, "(C1)Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed in Jesus as the Christ?" And they said, "No, (C2)we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit."3 And he asked, "Into what then were you baptized?" They said, "(C1)Into John's baptism."4 Paul said, "(C1)John performed a baptism of repentance, continually telling the people (C2)to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, to confidently accept and joyfully believe in Jesus the Messiah and Savior."5 After hearing this, they were (C1)baptized again, this time in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul (C1)laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began (C2)speaking in unknown tongues (languages) and (C3)prophesying.7 There were about twelve men in all.

Paul rebaptised them IN WATER

Go and baptize Ibiyeomen