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Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 2:30pm On Apr 12
Dchampion65:


Only the thief knows how to trace the footsteps of another thief.
Oh good
So why support one thief over the other instead of worrying about the property being stolen
Culture / Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Kukutenla: 2:29pm On Apr 12
cyrusmillz:


I don't think I've heard it before, I'm only saying , since there's a procedure , if he's not fit or doesn't want to , then the next in line should ascend , since there are laid down rules.
If he doesn't want to, the next in line will be Ladojafrom the civil line not the Balogun line

The olubadan ascending is in order of seniority not just line
Celebrities / Re: Which Cell Would Bobrisky Be Locked? Male Or Female Cell? by Kukutenla: 2:24pm On Apr 12
How is a trolling thread on fp


Seun, has NL fallen this low?

But wait, that 2nd pic, what's that woman looking at grin grin grin

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Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 11:49am On Apr 12
professorPABX:


Atiku is a FRAUD and you are one of his accomplices. I think Prof Pat Utomi can see what is happening. When I left nairaland (babaolofin) I promised never to return but some people forcibly brought me here during Presidential yacht misinformation and later on this project because of Senator Ningi's allegation. I observed Prof Pat Utomi joined in the budget padding discussion which Obidient people started rather than faced the crux of the matter raised by Ningi. I had said Prof Pat Utomi as an intellectual ought to know that Ningi's allegation is mainly because of the Lagos Calabar Highway Project announced by Umahi and the release of FG Counterpart funding for the first section of the project. I think everybody can now see the crux of the matter.

Senator Ningi listed major projects in the North which he said are abandoned and never mentioned any project in the South (Southwest and South South) .

You have also brought the same accusations though yours is not elaborate you only mentioned Maradi railroad and Abuja Kano highway projects. I will remind you that Lagos Ibadan expressway is less than 150km and Tinubu government in less than one year through David Umahi has been everywhere on projects despite a bastardized economy he inherited. More importantly, you said Tinubu cannot finish the road and any Northern government will abandon it. Is that not how Yaradua killed OLOKOLA LNG project started by OBJ?

The main thing is that Atiku believes he owns Nigeria with his co-travellers. Atiku fought OBJ as a VP. Jonathan and Osinbajo were just like errand boys to their principals. I will stop on this for now.

Why didn't he invite Amaechi to come and defend Rail project to Maradi? He should have invited Kyari to come and defend Ajaokuta Kaduna Kano pipeline project. Billions of dollars spent to prospect for oil in the North for 4 decades should be probed by Atiku. The 16 years of Atiku's INTEL Logistics deals at the Seaports during Obasanjo and Yaradua Jonathan government should also be probed . Atiku never played opposition when Nigeria was being impoverished with dubious Maritime deals, Petroleum (oilfields and crude oil) deals, Defence and Security Contracts deals because they own Nigeria. It is their birthright.

Yaradua Jonathan did not save one Kobo as president and spent estimated $25 billion dollars out of the money ($60 billion) Obj left . OBJ met $5.5 billion in the reserve as at May 29, 1999 and left $60 billion in 2007 after paying debt. Jonathan still borrowed. Everything was looted. Atiku never said anything. Less than one year Tinubu government cleared a forex backlog of 7 billion dollars.

Where was Atiku during Buhari government? I remembered he played opposition by being the father of the bride during Buhari's daughter wedding. It is now very clear when IBB said he was threatened not to handover to ABIOLA.

Remove the professor from your moniker. You sound too disoriented and illogical to be one.

The main crux of Atiku's argument if looked at without ethnic bias will ensure the project does not become another Kano-Kaduna or Kano-Maradi project. The points he raised are critical to the life of the project. But you can't see that because your head is buried deep in ethnic chauvinism.

Where were you guys when Buhari as wasting money and resources on all those things you mentioned? Let me guess. You were busy shouting sai Baba and calling anyone who raised any objection an enemy of state. Yet you're here to blame Atiku today for not speaking up.

Meanwhile ethnic champions like you always conveniently ignore the fact that Buhari admin completed Lagos-Ibadan rail and 2nd Niger bridge all in the South. It is his abandoned projects up north you use to justify your defence of a shady and shoddy contract that even the Minister of Works is finding difficult to defend.

Same zombie worship you gave to Buhari for 8 years is what you have started with Tinubu. When he is called out, instead of considering the question raised with a bit of commonsense, you bend to ethnic jingoism.

All the trash about OBJ and Yaradua etc become convenient for you when you want to hide under North/South divide to defend a scam. Is Obasanjo now a good president? Is Jonathan now a southerner who was hampered by the north? I am ashamed at how morally fickle you lots are!!

The point Atiku is making is that the road is contractually twisted. He is not complaining about the award of the contract but the shady nature of the award. Can you be intelligent enough to decipher between the two?

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Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 11:38am On Apr 12
zionstaar75:
keep crying. Ask yourself why atiku is focused on this project?he knows he won't get any votes from the south once the work reaches substantial level in 2027 but morons like you who can't see beyond their nose can't see jack

What substantial level will the work reach in 2027? Assuming the work does not reach substantial level by 2027, will you vote for Atiku based on that? It is only retarded simpletons lie you who cannot separate ethnic posturing from issues of public probity and accountability

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Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 11:37am On Apr 12
professorPABX:



Obasanjo on Atiku in his book "My Watch"


Obasanjo on Atiku

Olusegun Obasanjo
MY WATCH
Volume 2
Pages 31- 32

I settled for Atiku Abubakar. Some of the reasons were he worked hard for the project, he never indicated interest in the job to me, he had worked closely with Shehu Yar'Adua and Shehu never passed any adverse comment on him,he had been elected as a Governor which already put him on the pedestal to move up politically, but he had been short- changed in the election that would have put M.K.O.Abiola in power, and he seemed to have some national outreach.
What I did not know, which came out glaringly later, was his parental background which was somewhat shadowy, his propensity to corruption, his tendency to disloyalty, his inability to say and stick to the truth all the time,a propensity for poor judgment, his belief and reliance on marabouts , his lack of transparency, his trust in money to buy his way out on all issues and his readiness to sacrifice morality, integrity, propriety truth and national interest for self and selfish interest.
May be some of these traits and poor attributes are not easy to see until you work with the person concerned. And those who should tell would keep quite so that they would not be accused of running others down .
For instance until later, when a distinguished chief from Bauchi pointed out to me the value of pedigree, queried Atiku's pedigree and blamed me for making a wrong choice, I did not pay attention to Atiku's parental background.

Furthermore until all efforts to help Atiku change had failed- and having stumbled upon a report of inquiry carried out on him- I asked one of my predecessors why he did not inform me of how bad the report was and he said that he thought I knew.
He said, " This was a man I wanted to dismiss and jail but for the intervention of Shagaya and Shehu Yar'Adua. ". I took him at face value. However if his appointment was an error, I fully accepted responsibility for the genuine mistake.
And knowing all that I discovered about him, what would have been an unpardonable mistake and sin against God would have been to foist him on Nigeria."

What is the relationship between this and the points he raised about the shenanigans in the project

You sound like a charlatan
Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 11:36am On Apr 12
Dchampion65:



What is the relationship between this and the points he raised?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Can Someone From The North Explain The Conflicts With Shiites? by Kukutenla: 11:32am On Apr 12
Lanre1st:


Please what’s your problem? Did mention all those you quoted?
Try to become a Muslim and have salvation
Define salvation in Islam

Salvation from what>?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Can Someone From The North Explain The Conflicts With Shiites? by Kukutenla: 11:30am On Apr 12
Antlislaam:


AntiChristian on long vacation is not a Muslim, Empiree is not a Muslim, Lukuluku69 is not a Muslim, everyone fighting for allah here on nairaland and outside NL according to you are not Muslims. Who is now a Muslim according to your own philosophy?

Wait Wait Wait

Antichristian is Shiite? shocked shocked grin grin

This is about to get interesting

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Can Someone From The North Explain The Conflicts With Shiites? by Kukutenla: 11:28am On Apr 12
flokii:
Those guys love causing unrest more than other islamic sects.. I got stuck one time at the heart of Kaduna over Shiites demonstration. You'll see them walking on the main roads both male and female.
You see them. Always quick to judge others of the very thing they are guilty of or worse

Sunnis block roads every friday throughout Nigeria to pray Jumaat, this dude has never labelled it as causing unrest but a procession by Shiites is "causing unrest"

Ask him how walking on the main road by both male and female is a crime and threat to peace and you will see him convulsing.

But Isreal is the oppressors against Palestinian Islamic terrorists according to them

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Can Someone From The North Explain The Conflicts With Shiites? by Kukutenla: 11:24am On Apr 12
It's all about regional supremacy in the Arab/Persian Gulf which the ignorant Islamists in the North carry on their heads like gala

They are fighting a battle that does not concern them but have mouth to criticize Christians for supporting Israel

I find it funny they wish Christians support them against Israel

Hypocrites!!


BTW I thought they said there is no division in Islam and it is only Christianity that has denominations?

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Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 9:57am On Apr 12
Kilometres:



How many years did it take to construct 2nd Niger bridge? Almost a life time
Exactly
So imagine how this one will pan out
Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 9:57am On Apr 12
Go to school
Truthsandtrusts:














Shut up SIR,must we be president before we savage the nation ...find out details before pork nosing
Politics / Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 9:34am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

I did not make "it look as if only TCN can turn off load". I never mentioned that in my comment. In fact, I only referenced a particular situation.

You just want to sound intelligent and you are not doing it well. You cannot squeeze me into you line of thoughts. My comment is my comment. Item 2 in TCN's response is not factual.

They are communicating to laymen in the field like you who appear to have little or no understanding of power systems, therefore, the information should be factual and not misleading. People can take that item 2 against Discos when they give reasons for shortfalls being "load limitations from TCN", saying having power on 11kV feeders is solely within the Discos control.


Again, another conjecture from you. You claim to be an engineer not psychologist so I don't understand how your problem with a fault analysis and report is the perception it could generate and not the actual facts in the report.
I'll go further to quote points 3 and 4 which shows where the actual faults lie and I'll invite you to avert your mind to the points devoid of any conjecture.

3. That the reasons given for the outage on IBEDC 11kV and 33kV are earth/ over current faults, which have no bearing on TCN's frequency control operations.

4. That the staternent by IBEDC has been verified by TCN's regional management in Osogbo in conjunction with IBEDC Officials themselves and has been proven to be false, necessitating necessary corrections being made.


From the quote, 2 things are clear.

1. Reason for the outage was earth/overcurrent which is not under TCN responsibility

2. IBEDC have accepted their claim on the fault to be a lie.

So instead of being worried about how people may interpret, you should be more concerned about the actual fault and resolution/future prevention.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 8:53am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

First of, my focus was on Point 2, so before you rope me into your "conjuncture" point, kindly refer to my initial comment and try to understand the context of my comment without emotions. I know the facts you apparently don't know.

To answer your question, at the instance of the case I mentioned in the comment you quoted, TCN instructs the DISCO to drop their energy off take, meaning some 11kv feeders are turned off by the Disco, OR they (TCN) themselves turn off a 33kV feeder from their end for balance. This is why I take a stand against that item 2 in their response. It is just an attempt to absolve themselves of the blame in the eyes of the public. It is not factual. The power on 11kv feeders is a chain reaction.
I understand your point but the fact is Discos can also turn off the 11kV without instruction from TCN. Is that not what it means to reject load?

It's obvious from the press release from TCN that the Disco has agreed they are responsible so except there's a rebuttal from the Disco, TCN is correct on this one.

You're making it look as if only TCN can turn off load which is not true. And if TCN says they invited the Disco and showed them how the fault lies with them, I don't know how you will know more than both of them.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Three Sons Of Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh Killed By IDF Strike(photos) by Kukutenla: 1:28am On Apr 12
Empiree:
Empty
Is your head
I know
Politics / Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 1:26am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

So let me educate you (if you don't know)
If there is load limitation at a transmission station where the 33kv feeder emanates from, the corresponding 11kv feeders tied to the 33kV feeders are turned off, for balance.

Who knows if this was the case? So it is not out of place for a DISCO to say TCN is the reason why they couldn't supply 20Hrs power on a band A 11kv feeder, if a similitude applies.
Who turns it off? TCN or the Disco?

Besides, you just made a conjecture not based on facts. TCN said Ibadan Disco officials were present and they agreed as to who is responsible so why are you still making excuses for the Disco

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Politics / Works Minister Confirms Tinubu’s Lebanese Ally, Chagoury Got Lagos-calabar Road by Kukutenla: 1:23am On Apr 12
Works Minister Confirms Tinubu’s Lebanese Ally, Chagoury Got Lagos-Calabar Road Contract Without Competitive Bidding, Says Project To Tentatively Cost Over N15Trn

The Minister of Works, Dave Umahi, has said that the Lagos-Calabar coastal road project will cost a tentative sum of N15.356 trillion and that the project will be completed in eight years.
The minister said this when he was featured on Channels Television’s Morning Brief programme on Thursday.

Umahi also said that the contractor handling the project, Gilbert Chagoury’s Hitech Construction Company Limited (Hitech) did not do any competitive bidding for the project, rather, the contract was awarded to the company based on its track record, not on sentiments as being insinuated in some quarters.

When asked for clarifications on the cost of the project, how it was approved in line with the Public Procurement Act and if due process was followed, Umahi said, “I don’t understand what you mean by due process. Yes, due process was followed. People are concerned about whether it was appropriated for, and I say yes.
“In the 2024 Appropriation, you will find Lagos-Calabar coastal road and it is appropriated for. In appropriation and procurement, what is in the appropriation may not necessarily be what is in the procurement but the most important thing is that it is appropriated for and it followed due process.

“The due process is that we did our in-house evaluation of what we submitted. Some people said that this project is PPP (Public–private partnership), it is not PPP. It is EPC+F, which is Engineering, Procurement, Construction plus Finance. In EPC+F. There is a commitment in terms of funds from the Federal Government, depending on the negotiation.”

On the bidding process of the project as the contractor handling the project, Chagoury, has a close relationship with President Bola Tinubu, the minister said, “I am an engineer. I work by reality and not by sentiment.

“In the procurement act which is a law, you are allowed as a ministry to invite contractors that have special skills in a particular kind of work and negotiate with them and give out the job to them. We did that on the Third Mainland Bridge project.

“When it comes to the coastal road, we looked at the problem of ocean surge and the pedigree of the companies that have the capacity and track record of doing that, we looked at the Eco Atlantic in Lagos and remembered how Hitech was the only company that was able to solve the problem of flood that was taking of Victoria Island.

“They (Hitech) have the pedigree and track record of the ability to contain the ocean surge problems. They also have a proven track record of reinforced concrete road pavement.”

On the cost of the project, Umahi who earlier said that former Vice President Atiku Abubakar did not understand figures, noted, “If you use a dollar to N1,200, his argument comes up to about N19 billion per kilometre. A standard carriageway is 11.55 metres, which is 7.3 inner shoulder of 5.3, outer shoulder of 2.75. We used this 11.55 to do our analysis.”

When asked the exact amount the project will cost the Nigerian government under the EPC+F arrangement and the completion period of the project, the minister said, “We are looking at eight years, life tenure of Mr. President.”

He said tentatively, the cost of the project is about N15.356 trillion but added that “I cannot append my signature to that because it can come down and it can go up depending on the situation.

“It is going to be a tentative figure. I am proud of myself that this project is the most prudent project that I’m starting.”

SaharaReporters on September 24, 2023 reported how the multi-billion firm awarded the construction of the Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway, Hitech Road Construction Company, a subsidiary of Hitech Construction Company was owned by a Nigerian-Lebanese developer with alleged criminal records, Gilbert Chagoury.

Hitech is a division of the Chagoury Group, a business conglomerate owned by Chagoury, a known business partner of the Nigerian President, Tinubu.

Eko Atlantic in Lagos is also the brainchild of the businessman.

Years back, Chagoury was banned from getting a visa on terrorism grounds for allegedly funding a political coalition, Hezbollah, which the United States deems a terrorism group.

He was also in the past accused of drug dealings by the US and Lebanese governments.

The Los Angeles Times, which did a deep dive on Chagoury — in its August 30, 2016 edition, said that Chagoury’s visa troubles likely stem from his support of a Christian Lebanese politician.

The politician, Michel Aoun, is part of the same political coalition as Hezbollah, which the United States deems a terror group.

Since the 1990s, Chagoury was reported to have cultivated a friendship with the Clinton’s family, in part by writing big checks, including an estimated $5 million to the Clinton Foundation, this is despite being a non-citizen forbidden by law to make donations to the campaigns of US politicians.

He however flouted that law with his numerous donations. By the time Hillary Clinton became secretary of State, the relationship was strong enough for one of Bill Clinton’s closest aides to push for Chagoury to get access to top diplomats and thus began the US exploring a deal to build a consulate at the Eko Atlantic city.

Between 2012 and 2016, he sought to help fund election campaigns of some US politicians. He donated to the Republicans and was listed as a sponsor for a 2014 art exhibit at the George W Bush Presidential Center.

One other campaign he funded was that of Jeff Fortenberry, a US lawmaker, in 2016.

Fortenberry later convicted of concealing information and making false statements to US federal authorities who were investigating illegal contributions made by Chagoury who is a foreign national, to his re-election campaign.

Fortenberry resigned from office after his conviction.

However, in 2019, Chagoury reportedly paid $1.8 million in fines to resolve the investigation when it began.

Born in Nigeria to Lebanese immigrants, the businessman flourished in the 1990s through his close association with the late dictator, Sani Abacha by receiving development deals and oil franchises.

After Abacha’s death in 1998, the Nigerian government hired lawyers to track down funds stolen through associates of the late dictator.

The trail led to bank accounts all over the world, some under Gilbert Chagoury’s control.

In 2000, the Lebanese businessman was convicted by a Swiss court for laundering some of the funds Abacha looted from Nigeria.

He agreed to pay a fine of about 1 million Swiss francs (about $600,000) at that time to get his Swiss conviction expunged and handed back $66 million to the Nigerian government but denied knowing the funds were stolen.


https://saharareporters.com/2024/04/11/works-minister-confirms-tinubus-lebanese-ally-chagoury-got-lagos-calabar-road-contract
Politics / Re: Lagos-calabar Highway Project Is A Highway To Fraud, Waste - Atiku by Kukutenla: 1:15am On Apr 12
“The total budget of all 36 states of the federation for 2024 stands at about N14 trillion. If you add that of the FCT, the entire budget of all sub-nationals is N15.91 trillion. This is scandalous. Worse still, they have already awarded the contract but are still not sure of the level of the counterpart funding component of the federal government!
Good one by Atiku and his team.
I'm sure he was able to expose this rot due to his knowledge of Tinubu as a man who enjoys shady dealings.

Umahi ought to be ashamed of himself. He's fast turning out to be the Amaechi of this administration.

It's obvious Atiku is playing very vibrant opposition on this matter. The project is shrouded in corruption and what is more shocking is the claim that the project will take 8 years (a total lifespan of a possible two- term Tinubu presidency) to complete. Anyone can easily see that it's a lie and there's a huge possibility the project will be used to settle friends and cronies and then handed over to a northern govt who will waste no time in abandoning it just like the Kano to Abuja road and the Maradi rail has been abandoned since this new administration took over

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Politics / Re: Tarrif Hike: Adelabu Apologises To Nigerians Over ‘Freezer’ Remark by Kukutenla: 12:56am On Apr 12
AllenSpencer:
His resignation should be his top priority.

When callous statements of such are made, the best way to appease citizens is to resign.

Maybe you should deploy your propaganda to get him to resign

Doofus
Politics / Re: Tarrif Hike: Adelabu Apologises To Nigerians Over ‘Freezer’ Remark by Kukutenla: 12:54am On Apr 12
illicit:
JAGABAN

💪
Stop asslicking
Politics / Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 12:51am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

You see that point 2 is a lame excuse.

There can never be power on an 11kV feeder without power on the corresponding 33kV feeder.

That was a lame buy out of their fault. If you fail to give power to a 33kV feeder, how can IBEDC give power to their ISS that will transform the power to 11kV feeders.

But Nigerians that don't know this things will just start blaming the DISCO.

If only Nigerians know that most limitations faced by DISCOs are caused by this TCN guys. They are always playing defensive.
But point 2 never said there was no power supply to the 11kV

And 4 says IBEDC officials were called to witness the fault location and they agreed it falls under them
Politics / Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 12:38am On Apr 12
post=129390577:
A better Nigeria is what we want,.not all these political shenanigans and roforofo fights.

GOD BLESS NIGERIA
Where is the political shenanigan

Stop spamming every thread with your meaningless copy and paste
Foreign Affairs / Re: Three Sons Of Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh Killed By IDF Strike(photos) by Kukutenla: 12:28am On Apr 12
Neoteny:


Another dumb Judeo-Christian sinking deep into the rabbit hole.

Christianity is NOT an extension of Judaism simply because the fundamental of Christianity (Jesus is the Messiah) is absolutely DENIED by Judaism.

So if your messianic savior is deemed as a false Messiah who's burning in hell, how is that an extension or refinement? You cannot be a Christian unless you believe Jesus is the Messiah and son of god and god himself; you can't be a jew unless you believe Hashem is a single deity who has no son and the Messiah is NOT Jesus.

This makes Christianity a completely different religion!

All your other points are complete nonsense. Christians have only just the New Testament while the Old Testament is just background filler.

Keep shilling for the jews, Bub


Christianity is an extension of the Jewish scriptures because the central figure is a Jew but not just that, Jesus himself established himself as the Messiah and son of God through the Jewish scriptures. It is not coincidence that he was transfigured in luke with Moses and Elijah.

The Jews have the wrong narrative that the Messiah is a political leader which is why they rejected Jesus's religious reforms.

But even your Qur'an calls Jesus the Messiah. Is your quran wrong as well? grin cheesy
Foreign Affairs / Re: Three Sons Of Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh Killed By IDF Strike(photos) by Kukutenla: 12:24am On Apr 12
Neoteny:


The ironic thing about you Zionist defenders is you've no clue how stupid you look without the essential knowledge of what Judaism says about you and your religion. You're regarded as idol worshippers who'll become slaves to the jews. Read the Talmud you irredeemable jackass.

You think they're superior and "chosen by god" because they say so themselves, and you shameless slavish buffoons would suck their collective dicks because you've no dignity and your belief needs their validation.

You think you've a common enemy in islam. Good. You'll inevitably both collapse. Already we can see the decay and filth they promote seeping into your religion and culture and eroding it from within.

Christian nations are normalizing gay marriage and porn and marijuana and sex change.

Without violence or the mythical jihad, you're collapsing from within.

Keep shouting from here to the high heavens in support of the Nazi state of israel and the Jewish religion as the good goy puppy you are. They might reward you from some of their hasbara funds.

tongue tongue grin
You're as dumb as you're ignorant. The Talmud is not a Book of revelation or inspiration. It's simply a teaching manual that Christians have no interest in. So using Talmud to scare Christians is as dumb as using Qur'an to scare Jews and Christians.

Even your Qur'an recognises them as people of the book given by God so it's not only supporters of Israel that think so. Your quran has more Jewish prophets than Arab prophets. It is more or less compendium of Jewish history and heritage yet you think only Christians think Israel are God's chosen.

Your Islam is not spared from corruption either. How can it be when the prophet himself was corrupt up to marrying his son's wife?

Opium is smoked in Afghanistan and Pakistan more than anywhere else you ignorant islamist. And even in Nigeria, Northern Muslims consume tobacco, nicotine and hard substances more than anyone else.

Let's not even go into sexual perversions cause it's a pastime of Arabs who are your masters in Islam. They tell you how to hit your head and where to face when you hit your head. Heck, you even have to pray to their God in their language. What bigger form of mental slavery exists than that?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Three Sons Of Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh Killed By IDF Strike(photos) by Kukutenla: 12:17am On Apr 12
Empiree:
Don't jump. You support Israel genocide correct?. On what basis?. Because you believe they are the "chosen people" or people of God.

From the way you talk it is clear that you don't know that those people who claimed to be Jews in Israel today are mostly atheists. They don't believe on God but they believe God promised them land.

You can see from the screenshot it is the atab in Israel that are religious. Those Israelis who claimed to be Jews are Europeans.

Benjamin Satanyahu is atheist my friend.
So your problem is that people think Israel is God's chosen? Well that's what their scripture says.

But my support for Israel is because they are standing up to radical Islamic terrorism and everyone can see that the violence associated with Islam has cowardice at its core. For all the noise any jihad and terror, most of the radicals can't take the heat when it's dished out without stop.

You have been hammering on present Israelites not being Jews but is that the reason for the assault on Israel?
The assault on Israel is because they are neither Arabs or Muslims. That's the truth you guys always hide by making it all about land or God's chosen. Have Arabs ever claimed to be God's chosen? So why do you keep hammering on that as if that's enough excuse for the terrorism being unleashed on Israel?
Politics / Re: Pastor Okezie Atani Has Been Released by Kukutenla: 11:11pm On Apr 11
Dude and Ayekooto are fake news peddlers on twitter

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Three Sons Of Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh Killed By IDF Strike(photos) by Kukutenla: 8:42pm On Apr 11
Empiree:
people who don't practice any religion are better than you religious nutjobs in Nigeria.

Keep up with your genocidal state of confusion. Jesus will be proud of you

Lol. So you prefer an atheist who denies the existence of God to someone who accepts that God exists and is worthy of worship?

The confusion of the islamist
Culture / Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Kukutenla: 8:27pm On Apr 11
Difrent:

It's a lie , Ladoja initially stalled claiming the other Obas didn't attend the meeting he called.
Baba is just being unnecessarily paranoid and thinks the reforms is aimed at him which is far from the truth
What reforms are you referring to self

Ladoja as tradition demands called a meeting of the chiefs and only few attended yet you're blaming him for stalling

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Politics / Re: Coastal Road: FG To Charge N3,000 On Average Per Toll Gate, Says Umahi by Kukutenla: 8:24pm On Apr 11
Paraman:
shocked shocked
Even zombie shock

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Three Sons Of Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh Killed By IDF Strike(photos) by Kukutenla: 6:53pm On Apr 11
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I'm I surprised?. Your Jesus will be proud of you.


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Krismas, this is their terrorist brother. He said they (zionist Jews) kill people for living
I thought the narrative is that Islamists bent give up in their attack of infidels and ensuring victory in jihad
How come you people are now looking for sympathy instead of taking the war to the enemy.

I'm sure if Israel were Christians who take things low by turning the other cheek, we won't be seeing all these tears and cries from you lots.

I guess an eye for an eye makes the islamist wail
Foreign Affairs / Re: Three Sons Of Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh Killed By IDF Strike(photos) by Kukutenla: 6:20pm On Apr 11
Neoteny:


This is my last response since it's clear that:

1. You're a dipshit stuck in your misguided beliefs thinking you represent the best of Christianity

2. You're still equating religion with ethnicity

Now, to your drivel:

In terms of age, here's the oldest to the youngest of the Abrahamic religions:

Judiasm, Christianity, Islam

This sequence does not imply superiority, as adherents from each will insist in their viewpoints.

But the fact is, the last two (Christianity and Islam) borrow heavily from Judaism.

Judaism has one major holy book: the Torah which emphasizes the Mosaic laws.

Christianity has both aspects of the Torah (the Old Testament) and the Gospels (the New Testament). The old covenant between the jews and yahweh was replaced by the New Covenant of Jesus dying for the sins of his followers.

Islam has 3 holy books: the Al Taurah (Torah/Old Testament), the Injeel (Gospels/New Testament), and the Quran (the last testament)

In all 3 religions, King Solomon was a central figure (Suleiman in Arabic). Obviously Solomon from the theist perspective was a Palestinian Jew and a mighty king in Judaism and Christianity, and a prophet in Islam. Because both Christianity and Judaism are considered as "people of the book (the Old and New Testament) there's no dispute in Islam that Solomon was a Jew. He carried the message of God after all.

So your attempt to create some narrative fallacy is jejune. All biblical prophets from the old testament are well regarded in islam, including Jesus himself (whose mother has a whole chapter in the Qur'an dedicated to her....she does not have such honor in Christianity)

Your problem is you don't even understand your own religion, yet you're here fighting on behalf of jews grin
Just to correct some points while ignoring every other rubbish you've written here.

1. Christianity does not borrow from Judaism. Christianity is rather an extension of Judaism or an addendum in legal terms since it takes the torah, Psalms and prophets and expand them in a new order called new testament. It is Islam that borrows stories from the old Testament without acknowledging the source which makes it a work of plagiarism
2. Judaism actually has 3 major holy books. Torah, Psalms and Prophets. They are all part of Judaism texts and employed in worship. Torah simply means laws and refer to the laws of Moses which form the first five books of the Christian Old testament.
3. Christianity in addition to the above 3 books which from the old testament has 3 books and not just the gospels. There are the letters or Epistles and then the Revelation which is the apocalypse. The 3 books form the new testament. You're only aware of only the gospels as an islamist because that's the only text recognised by your Qur'an. Even your Qur'an recognises the Psalms!
I have to correct this misconceptions among ignorant islamists who know next to nothing about the religion of others but go about thinking they know everything. It is that half knowledge that has led to radicalism and terrorism among islamists.

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