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Sports › Re: T.B. Joshua Predicted King Davidson's WBO World Title Win by lakesider(m): 12:13pm On Jul 05, 2012
Pastor of gamblers
Politics › Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by lakesider(m): 7:06am On Jul 05, 2012
People should stop siting america as an example cos the bombing america is giving as a responsre is not taking place in america, if the nigeria government is to respond with bombing many lnnocent life and properties will go for it. Imagine lagos island being a terrorist hide out. Will d government bomb the area. Let's think before making or criticising other peoples solution . suggestion
Jokes Etc › Re: Breaking News Another Plane Crash! by lakesider(m): 8:55pm On Jul 04, 2012
If nairaland has become this, then i better find my information elsewhere . Looks like U guys now have too much visitor on your site
Career › Re: Tribalism In Nigerian Banks' Employment by lakesider(m): 5:49pm On Jun 21, 2012
Eko bank employ only igbo s i can never never do business with them.i m yet to discover it in other banks
Foreign Affairs › Re: Hosni Mubarak Is Dead? by lakesider(m): 10:36am On Jun 20, 2012
WTF d guy is still alive plz stop this rumour
Politics › Re: Pdp, Oyinlola Sue Mtn For N150b Over Call Logs by lakesider(m): 8:48pm On Mar 04, 2012
@ no time has OSUN state passed a budget of 150B while dis guy was d governor. Dis oyin guy has always being a comedian
Christianity Etc › Re: Rccg Special Holy Ghost Service Live by lakesider(m): 12:20pm On Mar 03, 2012
i ve never seen a topic like did U̶̲̥̅̊ attend yesterday jumat
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Can't The Post Of A General Overseer Be Rotated? by lakesider(m): 1:54am On Feb 25, 2012
Reason why pastors are rotated? .very simple, sothat they don't take over the branch from d GO
Politics › Re: Boko Haram Death Threat: SSS Advises Wole Soyinka To Shave Beards by lakesider(m): 8:13am On Feb 08, 2012
People just saying rubbish, which human is not an asset,the truth is that the nigeria government has turned nigeria into a refuse dump where scavenggers just come in to do anything they want.
Politics › Re: Do We Really Need All These Numerous Public Holidays ? by lakesider(m): 8:55pm On Feb 04, 2012
All i m not comfortable with is converting weekend hols to monday
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Vs Manchester United (3 - 3) On Sunday 5th February 2012 by lakesider(m): 12:06pm On Feb 04, 2012
Chelsea don die, up man u
Politics › Re: Tears As Anambra Buries 13 Boko Haram Victims by lakesider(m): 8:24pm On Feb 03, 2012
The media reported only the southerner burial,what about the northerners burial,they make it look as if it a fight between northerners and southerners.if nigeria brakes today or war brakes out,the media will be part of the course.this is not supporting BH#shame on u BH
Romance › Re: What Are Some Creative Ways To Say 'i Love You'? by lakesider(m): 5:23pm On Feb 03, 2012
Just suck her pussy dry,it works for me
Politics › Re: Fg Declares Monday 6th February Public Holiday For Eid-ul Maulud by lakesider(m): 7:49pm On Feb 02, 2012
I want a reasonable person to look at all the comments so far,it looks like most christians have critisized the holiday and no such comment during christmas new year holiday nd easter holiday,look at our schools especially primary nd secondary school ,U̶̲̥̅̊ ll see the holidays are planed to suite only christian ,even companys holidday are programmed to favour christians, how come other religions have not been considered by the system.is nigeria a christian country?,why is our calendar a christian calendar?.plz don't be bias in responding
Politics › Re: Festus Keyamo Disagrees With Bankole's Aquittal. by lakesider(m): 3:26pm On Feb 01, 2012
Stop waisting your time,kiyamo nd bankole dine on d same table at most once in two weeks
Politics › Re: Possible Rift In Boko Haram by lakesider(m): 9:58am On Feb 01, 2012
Many trues will be known on the last day.
Politics › Re: Sanusi Links Boko Haram To "oil Derivation". by lakesider(m): 3:00pm On Jan 28, 2012
Sanusi is right,what if tomorrow ,niger delta s oil drys off nd oil is discovered in SW nd in the north?,are we going to reduce their allocations.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Pastors Ought To Do With Tithe Money by lakesider(m): 2:50pm On Jan 27, 2012
As far as i m concern their is nothing like tithe in the new testerment,cos we don't need a pastor to help us talk to God anylonger
Politics › Re: Faces Of Boko Haram Sponsors by lakesider(m): 11:23pm On Jan 26, 2012
Plz stop all this false news orelse,
Politics › Re: Bishop Oyedepo Releases The Spirit Of Insanity On Boko Haram by lakesider(m): 12:28pm On Jan 26, 2012
This so called men of god are using our situation to make name,y can't oyedepo release the spirit of sanity on the corrupt nigeria government.y can't he tell us his stand during the fuel scarcity issue.mtcheeew
Politics › Re: Bishop Oyedepo Releases The Spirit Of Insanity On Boko Haram by lakesider(m): 12:18pm On Jan 26, 2012
Our government have giving us so much poverty that we think all our problems are spiritual,BH haram is government failure,
Even if BH calm down now,it will still resurface as long as homeless children called almanjiri keep roaming the street of the north.
Other niger delta militant group will grow as long as there are no schools and no job for youth.
I foresee a yoruba militant group as if the. nigeria government remains irresponssible
Prayer or GOD is not the problem of nigeria!!!!!
Politics › Re: M.D, Abubakar: The New Nigerian Inspector-General Of Police?? by lakesider(m): 2:33pm On Jan 25, 2012
That's what is xpected of GEJ
Politics › Re: Orubebe’s Home Bombed, Looted by lakesider(m): 6:36am On Jan 25, 2012
This. Are not BH, they are christian crusaders ,christian terrorist
Politics › Re: 158 Boko Haram Members Arrested In Kano Attack by lakesider(m): 3:57pm On Jan 24, 2012
Dem done arrest innocent boys wey ‎​D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ waka for street
Crime › Re: Hungry-man-sent-to-prison-for-stealing-n20-onion by lakesider(m): 11:32am On Jan 24, 2012
In heaven, nigeria government will answer for most of our sins
Politics › Re: We Will Fight Boko Haram With The Law - David Mark by lakesider(m): 7:30am On Jan 24, 2012
A CRITICAL APPRAISAL OF THE GENESIS OF BOKO HARAM INSURGENCE
(Note: this is not an attempt to justify the Boko haram insurgence which I and many other Muslim maintain is a transgression of the limits set by Islam. It is rather an attempt to understand the genesis behind the violent orgies perpetrated by the group that is claiming innocent lives by the day, preventing peaceful coexistence and threatening the whole of Nigerian national security and unity).

Boko haram started in 2002 as a peaceful Islamic splinter group that nurtured a controversial ideology against western education. The group never called itself boko haram but was named by the public and given a raving attention by the Nigerian media when the sect leader Muhammad Yusuf declared and propagated that boko (western education) was haram (sacrilegious). Among the reasons he gave were some theories he regarded as contradictory to the priciples of Islam. An example is the theory human evolution found in western science books which excluded the divine hands of God in the creation of man and the universe. This, he explained opposed a fundamental principle of Islam which holds God as the omnipotent creator of the universe and all it contains. Other reason he sighted was the immorality that youths commonly engage in at western schools such as semi naked dressing, fornication, alcoholism and substance abuse etc. He also castigated the western education system as being deficient in solving the issue of joblessness among the Nigerian youths but rather robs them of the time needed to skill themselves in non white collar jobs.

His ideology was challenged by many Islamic scholars including his former teachers who regarded the western education as a thorny tree that has its good and bad side but maintained that Islam allows and encourages the quest for knowledge in its entire ramification. Although attempt to bring him to order by these scholars fell on deaf ears, he continued to lure many especially the youth who were mostly shackled by the bondage of escalating poverty and joblessness. Many were said to have dropped out of schools and took to menial jobs and trading. Many tore their school certificate although in an interview with BBC Hausa, he denounced the allegation of ever telling any of his members to discard his certificate.

The sect continued to propagate their ideology and also called for the creation of an Islamic state in northern Nigeria. They continued to operate as a benign and non violent group until when the police killed a number of its members (about 14) during a funeral procession on the flimsy ground of not using a helmet.

The sect leader wrote series of letter to the Borno state government and the Borno commissioner of police. He called for the compensation of the family of victims killed extrajudiciously by the police during the funeral procession. He followed his letter with practical visits to the police but all appeal fell on deaf ears. He then called severally to the IG of police and the Yaradua administration to intervene but to date, nothing was done to the culprits.

He began to send threat to the government and the police. He castigated the Yara’ dua government in an out and called Yaradua an oppressor and declared the government as unjust. For those Muslim leaders and scholar who opposed his threat against the government, he declared them as hypocrite and even declared some as unbelievers. He and his member began to arm themselves while receiving support from many who sympathized with them and had grievance against the jungle justice of the Nigerian police. He was said to have received sympathy even by some non Muslims who were alleged to have bailed him out on some occasions that he was detained by the police on the ground of perceived breach of peace due to his threats to the Yar’adua governement.

According to Dr. Aliyu Tilde “Possession of arms is a crime, a serious one for that matter, because if for any reason all the 165 million Nigerians will resort to possessing firearms, then there will be endless bloodshed that will not appease God in anyway. Government owes other citizens the responsibility to check the group. In checking any such excesses, however, government should have followed the law and respect the fundamental rights of citizens. It can arrest and charge BH leaders and members with treason, possession of firearms, etc. But Yar'adua regime did none of these; instead, it chose to exterminate the group. Had government adopted due process and patiently abided by it throughout its conflict with the group, things wouldn't have reached this level. But it chose to err first, and its error compelled the group to adopt the dangerous strategy of operating underground.

Dr. aliyu further said “Let us not forget the “finish them” order that President Yar’adua gave to the security forces that morning when he was leaving for Brazil. In fact, he even timed it that by 4.00pm that day, the job must have been completed. In Maiduguri, Government went for total extermination of the group without recourse to any due process. The world was witness to how their centre was leveled by soldiers; Muhammad Yusuf, their leader, was executed; Muhammad Foi, a former member of Sheriff’s cabinet, was executed on the street after his arrest”

Muhammad Fugu, the father in-law of Muhammad Yusuf who never part of the group was declared wanted by the police. He brought himself willingly to the police station where he was killed on the spot without any interrogation but for simply being a relative to Muhammad Yusuf’s wife. “The police and the military went about killing anyone that resembled their members to the extent that people started shaving their beards en masse; etc. A senior police officer was reported in the press saying that he cannot guarantee the life of anyone wearing such features. So many were arrested along with their wives. They remain in prison to date without trial. Extermination is still the strategy of government in dealing with the group. Video footage of Mr. Yusuf’s extrajudicial muder soon went viral, but no one was tried and punished for the crime”.

“When the group protested at a police station in Bauchi did not actually necessitate an all-out war against it. In Bauchi, it was estimated that over seventy members of the group were massacred at their centre behind the airport. Apparently, they were even unaware of the conflict at Dutsen Tanshi police station that started that morning. By evening, the state commissioner for special duties led a team of government agents that leveled the centre with bulldozers. Passengers at the Yankari Park in Bauchi also witnessed how eight unarmed members were arrested and killed instantly by soldiers as they were boarding a bus to Maiduguri. The governor, Isa Yuguda, would later claim credit for the “decisive way” in which his government dealt with the group in his state”.

The world condemned the actions of the authorities on the highhandedness they showed. The government apologized to the United Nations after it was condemned for the human right abuses, promising that it will bring the perpetrators to book. Actually, it did nothing. No disciplinary action was taken against anyone until when Boko Haram bombed the Police Headquarters in Abuja in 2010. Two police officers were then reportedly dismissed from service for the murder of the Boko Haram leader.

Since the government chose to negotiate with bullets and bombs, Boko Haram therefore went underground. It took time to heal its wounds, regroup and re-strategize before returning to revenge what Imam Shekau described as the “the injustice meted against it.” Seeking revenge, Boko Haram targeted the police, the military and local politicians

When it reappeared in 2010, Boko Haram started to selectively kill people that assisted the authorities in identifying them. The initial victims were grassroots traditional rulers- all of them Muslims, the lawanis as they are called in Borno. Among the high profile killings made in this category were those of the junior brother to the Shehu of Borno, the state chairman of the ruling party in the state and its gubernatorial candidate during the last elections. After killing the first few, Boko Haram issued a warning that it will go after all those that aided the authorities in persecuting them. These included a number of ulama, traditional rulers, and the three governors of Borno, Gombe and Bauchi states. It demanded pubic apologies from the governors and got it from the last two.

Immediately the group started its selective killings, the ulama realized their vulnerability and none of them dared again to condemn the group publicly or repeat to assign it the Kharijite nomenclature. At a point, Boko Haram also issued a warning that they will also go against anyone who publicly condemns its activities, including journalists who do not live by the ethics of their profession in reporting it's activities.

The very day their massacre started in 2009, the Bauchi State government sought and obtained from the ulama in the town a fatwa which served as a license for authorities to kill Boko Haram members without recourse to justice. Only the most elderly sheikh in town opined differently, insisting that in Islam no soul should be killed without a ruling from a judge. That is why some of the ulama fled the country when Boko Haram staged a return the following year. The governor too has abandoned the Government House and practically relocated to Abuja since he received the death threat.

The government has been unable to protect its informants and other citizens from these attacks. This partially explains the silence of the Muslim community over Boko Haram.

Whatever the case, None of this excuses Boko Haram’s killing of innocents. The group has swayed off the mark and has gone too far when it considered criticisms as attack. By so doing, they instill fear in the population and loose public sympathy. Appeal to its members to put down its weapons and negotiate with government and they will rebut in this standard format: “How can we trust any negotiation with people who are amassing arsenal to attack us

Jean Herskovits, a professor of history at the State University of New York had this to say “Instead, approximately 25 percent of Nigeria’s budget for 2012 is allocated for security, even though the military and police routinely respond to attacks with indiscriminate force and killing. Indeed, according to many Nigerians I’ve talked to from the northeast, the army is more feared than Boko Haram. Influential Nigerians from Maiduguri, where Boko Haram is centered, pleaded with Mr. Jonathan’s government in June and July not to respond to Boko Haram with force alone”

There is nothing, once said the UN Secretary-General after the bombing of UN headquarters in Abuja last year, which cannot be amicably resolved through dialogue. The government has to accept full responsibility and start a genuine process of reconciliation and rehabilitation. The Muslim society as whole must continue to condemn this baseless killings and check the activities of extremists – mainly youths who lack the wisdom to see things in different shades. They need to be guided accordingly by leaders of their sects and relevant authorities. Otherwise, they will continue drifting away from the centre until they reach a point where they dream of a whole world drowned in an ocean of human blood. Certainly, this will not please God who has described Himself as the Most Merciful.

(With Excerpts from The New Challenges of Boko Haram by Dr. Aliyu Tilde, in Nigeria book haram is not the problem By Hean Herskovits Published: January 2, 2012
Politics › Re: We Will Fight Boko Haram With The Law - David Mark by lakesider(m): 6:30am On Jan 24, 2012
David mark is a terrorist, U̶̲̥̅̊ wnat to know,do U̶̲̥̅̊ know how many nigerias have died because moneys meant for providing amenities for them have been choped,do U̶̲̥̅̊ know its that legislators must be involved before moneys can be embessled by govt officials.i rest my case
Politics › Re: Hear The Voice - An Occupy Nigeria Song by Aduke by lakesider(m): 2:57pm On Jan 23, 2012
I love U̶̲̥̅̊ aduke
Education › Re: We Wont Call Off Strike Until Our Demands Are Met - ASUU President by lakesider(m): 4:33pm On Jan 22, 2012
So this foolish GEJ can call for a meeting after he pretended he did not see ASSU during 2days warning strike.i tired of GEJ,where is 2015
Politics › Re: Of The Followings, Which Is The Highest Killer Of Nigerians? by lakesider(m): 9:57am On Jan 22, 2012
Non of the above,the answer is nigeria government especially GEJ

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