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Eruditor:
Working brain.

The season is over.

I know your brain is not working which I see has turned into blindness, if not you will see I wrote CURRENTLY.

Mumu.

raumdeuter:
Is it possible to finish ahead of a team after 38 games of playing the same teams and not be better?

Maybe we can argue that Sheffield is better than Liverpool too

So you are telling us currently that Leicester has a better team than City, right?

Dayo, you are drunk. Go n sleep.

raumdeuter:
Cudicini Terry Gallas Makelele Crespo Hasselbaink Lampard Robben Duff Mutu

Compare that to a City filled with old players

Joe Hart over Cudicini.

Won the Golden Glovo 4 times and was in the team of season twice before Pap.

Kompany over Terry.

Kompany was an former Player of the season holder and 3 times PFA team of the year before Pep. Mou met a potential world beater CB in Terry.

Gallas v Otamendi - Draw

Makalele over Fernandinho

Aguero over Crespo

Sterling over Duff

KDB over Robben

D Silva over Lampard

Mutu X Navas - Draw

JFH over Bony



What were you saying again?

raumdeuter:
Sorry but that answer doesn't cut it.
A team that finished 4th with 66 points is better than a team that finished 2nd with 13more points

Do you agree that Leicester n Spurs has better players than City in 15/16?

Lingardinho

raumdeuter:
Prove how Pep inherited a better team that finished 4th behind Leicester and Spus vs. Mourinho that inherited a team that finished 2nd behind Arsenal invincibles

Stop going in circles Dayo, you keep asking the same question which I have answered severally.

Players make up a team and PAP inherited better PLAYERS to those Mou inherited.

I see you also stylishly remove Klopp, Ferguson and Wenger from the equation.

FRAUDS.

raumdeuter:
You haven't told me how Pep who took a team that finished 4th behind Leicester and Spurs is better than Mou who inherited the runner up to Arsenals invincibles

I already told you he inherited better players.

Unless you want to argue that Leicester n Spurs have better players than City that 15/16 season, if not, go join your barkadot friend.

raumdeuter:
Crespo at 28 was washed up but Aguero at 28 wasn't

Do player wash up by age or what’s wrong with you Dayo?

Before Crespo got to Chelsea, 2002/03 in Inter he scored 7 goals in 18 apps. In 03/04 that he got to Chelsea, he scored 10 in 19.

Do you want me to show you Aguero numbers before Pep? The last 2 season before Pep, he scored 26 & 24 respectively in the league.

Dayo, you are drunk.

BARAJ92

Is this current City team declining already?

raumdeuter:
Juup was forced to retire. He didn't retire voluntarily

Lol. They informed him they were in contact with Pep and could like to get him then. Juup wanted to stay for one more season but he later gave them his blessings to continue discussions with Pep.

It’s entirely different from Pelle. He was sacked.

raumdeuter:
Player to player is subjective. League position is not. Points made is not

How do you know if Crespo is better than Aguero? How do you if Robben is better than KdB, or Terry is better than Kompany or Gallas vs Kolarov or Makelele vs Fernandinho or Yaya vs Lampard or Duff vs Sterling

Are you seriously asking how Aguero is better than washed up Crespo? Or how KDB that was in his prime is better than Robben that was just coming up?

So Leicester team the won the league in 2015/16 is better than the City team of 15/16 right?

You are drunk Dayo.

raumdeuter:
How did you know about the psychology impact? Bayern announced that Pep will be taking over from Juup yet that didnt stop Juup from winning a treble

But na Pellegrini psychology dey affect

Juup was retiring, Pellegrini was sacked.

Was it the same scenario?

BARAJ92:
[s] We won the league in 2013, 2011, 2009, 2008, 2007 and 2nd in 2010 and 2012, does that means Moyes and van gaal met a good team.


If man utd has appointed a coach like Klopp or Guardiola, they will have identify those players that are needed for their tactics to work while still maintaining a decent performance .

No one can say, if Guardiola meet a better team or not because it is subjective to personal opinion as a good team in previous seasons might be ageing while a team full of potentials like the chelsea team of Mourinho might have perform poorly in previous seasons.


Hence, Guardiola deserves the praise, he is receiving, It is not an easy thing to win the league twice with record points. [/s]

Stop jumping into arguments, you won’t hear.

To start with, Moyes is not in the caliber of manager that Pep and the others we are comparing are, so just rest.

Also stop the posting the same rubbish that he won the league twice with record points. It’s absolute gibberish. He won the league with record points ONCE.

Again, I will repeat it to you maybe this time you will read slowly and get the argument is about.

THE ARGUMENT WAS ABOUT GETTING TO 100 WINS IN LESSER GAMES.

raumdeuter:
Have you answered and explained how the team Pep inherited was better than the one Mourinho inherited in 2004?

Yes. I have done that several pages back.

If you want to disagree, list the players they both met and let’s do player to player comparison.

BARAJ92:
Anyone with a working brain will also see that their is a gradual decline from 1st to 4th Within three season

I don’t know where they jump out from but let me indulge you a little.

The 4 years before that 15/16 season, City were comfortably interchanging between 1st and 2nd. By Feb 2016 when they announce Pap will be taking over at the end of the season, City were 2nd on the table.

If City board had kept their mouth shut and didn’t announce that Pellegrini job is gone in February, there’s every possibility that City will finish the season before 1st or 2nd.

If you don’t know the psychology impact the announcement of Pep in Feb had on the team title charge, sorry for you.

raumdeuter:
How did Pep meet a better team on ground than what Mourinho for example met?

Mourinho inherited a team that finished 2nd in the league behind the Arsenal invincibles, Pep inherited a team that finished 4th behind Leicester Spurs
Mourinho inherited a team that finished with 79 points Pep inherited a team that finished with 66points

Both teams made the CL semifinal

Just a simple question, The Leicester team that won the league in 15/16, was it a better team than City 15/16 team?

Eruditor:
Where did anybody say Klopp inherited Suarez?

I said the squad of 2010/11 that started the season to the one of 2013/14 Gerrard was the only survivor.

To disprove your nonsense about 8th, 6th being Liverpools true level. In other words TWO DIFFERENT SQUADS.

Also, now you have switched to when Pep was announced City were 2nd on the table. Because you have been owned.

You can call me names. It means nothing to me. Like I said, it proves you have nothing to say.

Incase you were blind to the first mention, I’m quoting you again.

Do you want to bet 50k on this assertion of yours?

BARAJ92:
I won't have jump into it, if i didn't understand the basis of argument which is Pep met a better team than other great coach of the EPl which is a big fallacy of error as that Man city team were already ageing.

“already ageing” doesn’t mean they were not better than those you were comparing him met in their respective team.

BARAJ92:
Nothing like meeting a better team. Moyes met a team that just finish winning the league, yet we finished seventh the next season.
Give the guy, his honour to me, he is currently the best Manager in the world while klopp is one of the best Manager. What he is doing with Man City is amazing during this their transition era.
Fergusson fails in that regards in his final season while Wenger also fails in doing that.
It is not an easy feat, winning the league twice with record point's.

When they tell you not to jump into an argument you don’t know the beginning you won’t hear.

Maybe your eyes can’t see the last paragraph of my post. Go wash your eyes then come back to read the post again.

Eruditor:
Where did anybody say Klopp inherited Suarez?

I said the squad of 2010/11 that started the season to the one of 2013/14 Gerrard was the only survivor.

To disprove your nonsense about 8th, 6th being Liverpools true level. In other words TWO DIFFERENT SQUADS.

Also, now you have switched to when Pep was announced City were 2nd on the table. Because you have been owned.

You can call me names. It means nothing to me. Like I said, it proves you have nothing to say.

Let’s bet 50k on the bolded.

Gerrard was not the sole survivor?

You game?

Eruditor:
[s]Suarez was bought Jan transfer window of 2011. That is why I said he was not there when the season started. If a coach took over City today and signed Messi will we say he inherited a squad having Messi from Pep?

Remember you are claiming the squad Pep INHERITED was better than what the other managers inherited.

LOL the fact that 7-8 players were there when Pep came makes my argument for me. That the squad had just finished 4th by the same manager who used them to finish 1st and 2nd. Now due to revisionist nonsense you now want to claim that that squad was better than the one Mourinho got that had just finished 2nd with a UCL SF spot[/s].

You are the stupidest barkabot I have met and I’m not even sorry to say so.

Did Klopp inherited Suarez or was your brain exchanged for peanut? What kind of thing is this?

When Pep was announced as City manager, City were second on the table. If they had waited till the end of the season before announcing Pep, City might finish 1st or 2nd. They even got to the SF of the UCL that same season.

It’s obvious I am wasting my time with a dunderhead.

raumdeuter:
Larride so the Chelsea of 2000 should be used to measure the Chelsea of 2004 and we can ignore the budget of 2 countries pumped into them by Abrahamovic where he was able to buy 2 of the best strikers in Europe Crespo and Drogba in successive seasons?

So can we use the Man city of 2008 pre investment as a basis for their title winning 2012 team and ignore the huge investment they made between

Did Chelsea jump from 2000 to 2004? Did they not play in 01,02,03?

It seems you just jump from into the middle of the argument without knowing the basis of the argument.

The argument was that Pap got to 100 wins in less games than Ferguson, Mou, Wenger, Klopp and I was trying to tell your barkabot and Pap asslicker that out of them all, Pap met a better team on ground so it was easier to get to 100 wins in lesser games.

Please follow the course of the argument.


The 2 seasons that Pep won the league, I gave him his props so that’s not the argument here. I have always maintained that all managers will spend to improve his squad.

Eruditor:
Hahaha. I also said Pep came 2015/16. When we know he came 2016/17. I was referring to the "squad" he inherited.

Lol @ old age. If you only knew.

Suarez was not there beginning of the season or why did you not include Drogba, Essien, Robben and Cech when you were discussing the team Mou used that you claimed Pep's was better than?

They did not jump from 1999 to 2004 but when it is Pep the same City players of 2012 when they won league are the same players of 2016 when he took over.

I should throw away my advanced degrees. Your brain is functioning.

What rubbish are you typing for God’s sake? Did Mou meet Drogba, Essien n co in Chelsea? What’s wrong with you ffs.

Suarez was in Liverpool in 2010/2011 when they finished 6th.

Suarez was in Liverpool in 2011/2012 when they finished 8th

Suarez was in Liverpool in 2012/2013 when they finished 7th

Suarez was in Liverpool in 2013/2014 when they finished 2nd

The following season they finished 6th.

Don’t forget that they finished 7 & 6 during Rodgers time so that 2nd was overachievement.

Stop repeating that fallacy you keep repeating when after I gave you facts. It was “NOT” only Gerrard that was in 2010/2011 team that was in 2013/2014 team.

Now let’s look at the team Pep at City when he joined and City squad 5yrs prior.

2011/2012:

GK:
Joe Hart

Defenders:
Kompany
Kolarov
M Richards
K Toure
Zabaleta
Lescott
Clichy
Savic

Midfielders:
Barry
D. Silva
Yaya Toure
Milner
Nasri
De jong

Forward;
Aguero
Adebayor
Tevez
Dzeko

7-8 of them were still starting when Pep got to City in 2016.

Take your head out of Pap ass and use your brain.

Eruditor:
Of course, you and Larride belong to the same group of people with functioning brains.

Essentially the same CFC players finished 3rd, 1st and 10th. I said that squad was not a 10th-placed squad. If they finish 1-4 it is okay. But 10th, no.

Contradicting myself? even when this season I argued that Arsenal and Tottenham squads are top 4 squads and CFC are not. Even though CFC finished 3rd last season.

LOL.

Now using this your own logic,

The team that was finishing 8,6,7 then suddenly finish 2nd and the next season they finish 6th. What is their true level?

And the team that finished 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd and then suddenly finish 4th, what is their true level?

kokaneprodigy:
na typo someone with half a brain knows that.

Even when I said Dayo should open his eyes, you mean you still use blindfold?

Eruditor:
LOL. More of the same name-calling to hide behind shallow points.

1. Bring where I said Klopp came after 2013/14 when they finished 2nd. You will see that you are the one who has comprehension issues.

2. You are the one who said Liverpool were 8, 6..bla blah. I brought out the squad that were 8th and compared to the team that was 2nd. There was no Suarez etc. But you have come to lie....Again.

You gave me a 5-year time frame about a squad that had different players. To argue that what the team was in 2004 was similar to what they were in 1999.

And your brain is working?

1. I’m I the one that typed the below?

Eruditor:
Liverpool 2013/14 2nd in the league. (Klopp came 2014/15)
CFC 2003/04 2nd in the league (Mou came 2004/5)
MCFC 2014/15 4th in the league. (Pep came 2015/16)

2. Instead of you to do simple google search if you cannot remember due to old age or memory loss, you will be doing strong head. Do you want to bet Suarez is not in the team that finished 8th in 2010/2011 season?

Did they jump from 1999 to 2004? Whatever happened in 00/01, 01/02, 02/03 before 03/04 season? You just keep digging hole for yourself.

kokaneprodigy:
Larride

I’m convinced you can’t see properly now.

Let’s bet 50k maybe that will clear your eyes.

kokaneprodigy:
Are u saying he didn’t?

He did? Where?

raumdeuter:
Brilliant submission

So Pep won back to back to back EPL titles?


You better open your eyes very well.

Eruditor:
[s]This is 2020. I can rubbish you and call you names etc but it will only prove that I will be using that to hide the fact that I have been found out or that I have no argument to make. That is exactly what you have done above.[/s]

[s]You were here when Patrickmuf said Pep's squad was equal to the other top 4 teams which is why he finished 3rd. It was right to you. Today, that same team that was equal to others is now better than a team that finished 2nd behind the invincibles and got to the UCL SF because...Pep. LOL.[/s]

In your own working brain. It is the same Liverpool team that finished 8th in 2010/11 that finished 2nd in 2013/14. LMAO. Funny. The only player from 2010/11 squad that still played in 2013/14 was Steven Gerrard. But in a bid to lie that Liverpool overachieved in 2014, see yourself?

History will show that your working brain agreed that Pep had the same quality of squad with Tottenham and Liverpool of 2015/16. Which was better than Mourinho's team that won the league with 95pts.

History will show that your working brain compared a CFC squad with Petrescu, RDM and George Weah to one that had Makelele, Lampard, Hasselbaink in their prime. To argue that finishing 2nd in 2003/4 was an over achievement since CFC squad level should have been 5th (based on 1999/2000). To spite Pep.

But your brain is working and mine is not. Ok . Ok.

Gibberish as usual. When you make a mistake, the first rule is to stop digging. Stop making yourself looking more clueless than you are.

You have already made too many errors that I shouldn’t be having this discussion with you anymore. The first one was saying Klopp came after the 13/14 season when they finished 2nd when Infact Klopp came when the team finished 6th. You have made another stupid claim at the bolded again.

2011:
Gerrard
Glen Johnson
Martin Kelly
Daniel Agger
Joe Flanagan
Srktel
Suarez
Lucas

The above mentioned players were in the 2013/14 squad.

I gave you a 5 year timeframe to show you the strength of the squad and how the team has been faring before those managers came on board but it seems it’s a taboo for barkabots and Pap asslickers to put their brains to good use.

You really need to stop embarrassing yourself even if your life depends on asslicking Pap.

Enjoy your day!!!

This CHO is useless sha.

Make I see who go blame Kepa for here.


Just save New Year Parte.