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Unlimited22:
I checked. Very true. But they're giving top 6 clubs a serious headache

Serious headache bro. They might surprise City again tonight.

Unlimited22:
Larride drisham

You should know they will post what goes with their narrative. They have lost 2 nil to Liverpool and 3-2 to Spurs in the league. Both at their homeground.

Unlimited22:
Wolves played all top 6 teams and lost exactly 0 games.

Let's see how far they go now the cycle is about to restart.

They lost to L’pool

Dantedasz:
He kept Christian Ericksen very very quiet through out the match. He goes about his business in a efficient way. No fuss but extremely efficient in his assigned role.

Eriksen was far from quiet though. He was the one pulling all the string of the constant attacks.

Herrera was solid though, one of our top performer.

elampiro:
Whoscored rated Jones above Linderlof. Despite Jones marking Kane.


Why Linderlof no mark Kane?

Did you watch the post match analysis on super sport and how Giggs and the other guy were tearing into Jones?

It’s not easy marking Kane so he get a pass from me today.

What a match!!!


GGMU

Unlimited22:
Which particular keeper are you talking about?

The kunu sipping basket in Madrid.

chrisley024:
I don't know why our DM, Matic and Herrera, drop to the box and make the midfield open for Spurs.

Even Young keeps drifting to the middle. Matic and Herrera are not allowing us to press properly from the front.

afrodoc2:
That is one thing we will find difficult. Spurs are oveloading the midfield with 4 players, all workaholics. We have 2 players and then Pogba to play a free role.

Eriksen and Alli ain’t workaholics like that and I believe they will leave spaces in between that can be exploited.

Leyqute:
MRTA= Valencia
Oasis = JOnes
Patrickm = Lukaku

Nah

Elampiro = Valencia
Elampiro = Jones
Elampiro = Young

In fact, Elampiro will be playing across the defense line

Debroslink:
I'm not comparing Xavi with Iniesta. Xavi played from 1999-2015.

Why are you all listing his stats from 2008-2015? What happened between 1999-2007? Almost 10 years period. He went to WC 2002 and 2006. He also played Euro 2004 not to talk of UCL from 2000-2008.

In conclusion, all the 2008-2015 stats up there shows that Iniesta made Xavi thick and hot. Iniesta made the whole world recognize and appreciate Xavi's effort.

You are not comparing Xavi with Iniesta so what were you doing when you made the statement “Iniesta made Xavi?”

Xavi started playing in 1998 and he won the league in 1998/1999, 2004/2005 and 2005/2006.

How did Iniesta made Xavi thick and hot? Is he the one that implemented tiki taka?

Without Xavi at the center there’s no tiki taka, the system is all about Xavi, he’s the one that keeps it moving, he’s at the center of the whole thing, what exactly is Iniesta role or job when Xavi is outscoring and out-assisting him from the central position whereby Iniesta plays closer to the goal than Xavi.

I repeat, leave Xavi out of your discussion, you can continue your merry-go-round with Iniesta and his shaku shaku mentee like Hazard. Leave the midfield maestro out of it.

What’s this useless rumor I’m hearing about Gareth Southgate? It seems Ed needs to Bleep off from the club.

Debroslink:
Difference between Iniesta and Lampard is there was no shakushaku in UCL 2006 final, UCL 2009, UCL 2015, and WC 2010 final. Iniesta carried his team's to glory via goal + assists in each of them, unlike Lampard who flopped in all the 5 finals he played.

I have no business with Lampard and Iniesta comparison but you saying Iniesta made Xavi is a statement that should get you a place in Hague.

2006 UCL
Iniesta: 0 goal 0 assist
Xavi: 0 goal 0 assist

2009 UCL
Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist
Xavi: 0 goal 1 assist
Xavi was awarded MOTM by UEFA

2011 UCL
Iniesta: 0 goal 0 assist
Xavi: 0 goal 1 assist

2015 UCL
Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist
Xavi: 0 goal 0 assist (played just 18mins or thereabouts)

Euro 2008
Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist
Xavi: 1 goal 3 assist
Xavi named UEFA Player of the tournament

Euro 2012
Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist
Iniesta named UEFA Player of the tournament
Xavi: 0 goal 4 assist.

Who is the shaku shaku dancer? Who carried who?

Debroslink:
We are talking real legends here, not that local legend in Drogba's shadow.

Ronaldinho's era kick started the trophy-laden era, not 2008 Aragones. An era that saw the emergence of Iniesta.

How come it was when Iniesta came up we started winning UCL, Euros and WC? Xavi's glorious career has Iniesta all over it. Pre-Iniesta, Xavi was just there.

You asked for stats, I go for goals, assists plus MOTM for Iniesta in those finals you mentioned.

It seems you think you are arguing with those your up barka bot. Before the advent of aragones tiki taka in Euro 2008, you guys have went trohpyless for 2 years, wasn’t Iniesta part of the team then when you guys were going trophyless until aragones came up with tiki taka with Xavi at the center of it.

During the 2004/2005 and 2005/2006 titles win and UCL win in 2006 was all during Ronaldinho brilliance, the moment Ronaldinho lost form, the trophy dried up.

I asked you for the stats in those finals, goals and assists, bring them and let’s see. We all agree on this board that MOTM is popularity contest so that’s a no go area.

Debroslink:
Stop robbing Peter to pay Paul. Don't berate Iniesta just to score some points.

1. My time frame was 5 years. And that's from 1999/00 till 2004/05. I asked again, what did Xavi do during the period till Ronaldinho came up?

2. You said he wasn't a starter. I countered that to explain he played up to 200 games before Iniesta. You posted 103 league games, I added other competitions.

3. Golden era started in 2004/05 when Ronaldinho was delivering classics. Before then it was gloom. After then, it has been boom of trophies since.

4. Aragones, Guardiola, VDB and Enrique are no fools to play him to lead the tiki-taka for about a decade. All the years you mentioned, he was always in the team of the tournament and several MOTM awards.

5. 2006 UCL finals when Iniesta lifted the trophy, I didn't see Messi and Xavi on the field.


2009 UCL, 2010 WC, 2015 UCL finals are testaments to Iniesta's greatness when the ovation is loudest. No other has had more impact from midfield.

Nobody was robbing peter to pay paul. The arguement was between Lampard and Iniesta but somehow you brought Xavi into the argument, are you sure you are not arguing with yourself like this?

Xavi broke into the team in 1998 but you want us to skip the 1998/1999 season and we should start counting from 1999/2000 because that suit your narrative.

Now you have changed it to “Till Ronaldinho came up” before it was “When Iniesta came”. What exactly was Iniesta doing in all those years when Ronaldinho was providing those classics? Dancing shaku shaku as usual?

Are you talking about 2006 UCL final with Arsenal or did Barca play another team in 2006 UCL final? The same match that both Iniesta and Xavi started on the bench? Iniesta came on and had the same impact Xavi that was on the bench had which is ZERO. No goals or assist.

Xavi was the one leading the tiki taka and not Iniesta, XAVI was the system itself, XAVI made the system possible, no wonder Barca and Spain has not been able to replicate that tiki taka since Xavi left?

I ask you again, what was Iniesta contribution to UCL 2009, World Cup 2010 and UCL 2015? Show me the stats and not dribbles like hidden skaku shaku Hazard.

Unlimited22:
Don't bother yourself bro. Leopards don't change their spots.



Of all the ridiculous things one has seen here. Iniesta made Xavi. Good Lord.

But you will see those shouting herd mentality going mute as if they are blind or they couldn’t even correct one of their up barka bot. Ask him how Iniesta made Xavi with either goals or assist, you will start seeing stories that touch. The only player that tops nothing for his team yet regarded.

Debroslink:
Only an asslicker will call Xavi a non-starter during Rijkaard's era. Even Ibime dare not say Xavi wasn't a starter during Rijkaard. Xavi that once held the title as the 'most constant player in European football' is what this guy called non-starter during Rijkaard's era.

You don't rub Peter to pay Paul. If you wanna rubbish Iniesta, don't tarnish Xavi's image. Xavi is the most capped Barcelona player ever, and he's been playing 1st team since 1999.

The question I asked was "what did Xavi win in 5 years before Iniesta came into the scene?". No one has been able to answer such. Xavi had played WC 2002 and 2006, Euro 2004. In these tournaments, show us his stats. But when Iniesta came up, he complimented his efforts.

So if you like, show us that Xavi had more assists and goals, but also know that Xavi played about 200 games before Iniesta for Barcelona winning no major trophy.

Xavi is a midfield god, but I didn't see him win trophies without Iniesta by his side. However, I've seen Iniesta win trophies without Xavi or even Messi.

Xavi was never in the discussion until you brought him into the discussion that Iniesta made Xavi. We have been asking you to bring out the stats to back up your statement, how did Iniesta made Xavi?

Iniesta made his debut in 2002 so do not make seems as if he just started playing in 2005. Your golden era did not start in 2005 you this barka boy liar.

Let me puncture your liars one after the other.

1. before Iniesta, Xavi won the league in this first season in 1998/1999 season.
2. Xavi only has 103 caps more than Iniesta and not “more than 200 caps” like you claimed.
3. Your golden era started in 2008 after Luis aragones Spain won the Euro 2008 with a possession based system with Xavi at the center of it.
4. What was Iniesta contributions to Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 Spain’s win? Bring out the stats to back up your claims.
5. Where did Iniesta win trophies without Xavi or Messi? I will be waiting. Kindly tell us the season and the contribution of Iniesta to the said trophy.

Xavi had everything more than Iniesta, more passes, more goals and assists, more key passes per game, more chances created than Iniesta, so I ask again, what exactly is Iniesta doing or what is he complimenting? It’s better you concentrate your arguement on other shaku shaku AMF like Iniesta and stop comparing him with a midfield god like Xavi

Debroslink:
For 5 years before Iniesta, Xavi had game control, but no impact and trophies to back up. Iniesta came up and the story changed.

Ronaldinho didn't define Xavi, Guardiola didn't either.

It's Iniesta.

No wonder you are a barka bot.

Was Rijkaard playing tiki taka as a system? Can you even call Xavi a regular under Rijkaard?

Luis Aragones started using a system that fitted Xavi, a possession based system during Euro 2008 which Pep replicated at Barca during his reign. The man behind the success of the system for both Spain and Barca was XAVI, no wonder when Xavi left Barca, no more tiki taka but kati kati.

How exactly did Iniesta made Xavi when Xavi was outscoring him from central midfield, I’m sure if I dig deeper, Xavi will have more assist than him. Iniesta scored 35 goals in La Liga from an AM position for Barca in 16years compared to Xavi 58 from central midfield? Are you not even ashamed for Iniesta?

You can argue Iniesta unproductively anyhow you like, don’t you ever dare compare him to a midfield mastero like Xavi.

Debroslink:
You sef don see am. Asslicking on this thread na die.

Are you not the same person that said Iniesta made Xavi?

raumdeuter:
You know Ladoja is no longer in ADC now with Zenith.

Yeah, read about his defection, wherever Ladoja goes to, he’s going to pull vote. He’s just going to be like Omisore in Osun but he’s more popular and likeable in Oyo politics than Omisore in Osun politics.

raumdeuter:
Larride why I am skeptical is that places like Ogun and Oyo might need such mobilization from Osun and Ondo too Since the APC isnt sure of winning. So the effort that should have been concentrated in Kwara will be split between Oun Oyo and Kwara. Only Lagos is over 70% sure

APC is winning Oyo surely. PDP will come a distant third. Mark it down. Ladoja leaving PDP for ADC gives APC the advantage. Ladoja is still a household name in Oyo politics, Makinde is not that popular while Adebutu will enjoy the power of incumbency and his fathers name.

In Ogun, Amosun is just being greedy unnecessarily, the same scenario that played out in 2011 that pave the way for Amosun to win is the same scenario playing out now, I’m tipping GNI ADC to win it. PDP is not serious yet and Kashamu seems to be dragging them all round and not allowing Omo Baba Ijebu to concentrate on his campaign. Amosun wants to be a kingmaker like Tinubu but he lacks the political wisdom of Tinubu, in politics you win some and lose some.

APC might lose Ogun but they will win Kwara.

raumdeuter:
All those FFK, Dino, Reno Bruce are jesters . Nigerian politics is not on facebook and twitter, when most of the people you are talking to are abroad or wont vote. The real politics is with market women, Okada riders, artians and civil servants who dont know what twitter is.

If I remember correctly After Saraki pulled the Senate coup, the first person he went to visit was Atiku

I think it will still be hard to remove Saraki completely in Kwara. Presidency Senate and governorship on the line for him. Saraki might win 2 and lose 1

I think he/PDP will win the Senate, win the governorship(if it doesnt go to rerun) and lose the presidency.
Senate and Presidency are on the same day.

Why Governorship is dicey is because on the dates and Other SW states are also close races like Ogun, Oyo. so the possibility of having everyone in Kwara is low

The way to make him lose governorship is for APC to get into a rerun so that all FG forces can be deployed on one day against Sarakis forces Then all the SW states who are not having governorship races can deploy all their forces and money to Kwara

Kwara election is going to be battle for battle. I believe Saraki will win his senate seat but he will lose governorship and presidential election.

The reasons are not far fetched really. Don’t forget that nearby Osun and Kogi won’t be having their governorship election that day likewise Ekiti and Ondo, trust me, they will mobilize all the support from all these states. Even Saraki knows he’s in for a tough one, for the first time, he’s campaigning seriously and even begging Kwarans that they should forgive those that may have wronged them. I heard he paid some LG workers some days back. The heat is on him now but he definitely will win his senate seat, he sure won’t want to lose it all.

The 9th NASS will be so much better than this one if APC retains most of their seats. Dino will lose his seat to Smart Adeyemi, Ben Bruce is denied ticket for re-election, Shehu Sani is definitely not coming back, chances that Dogara will come back in house of rep is slim.

Both FFK and Reno have zero political value and Fayose is already going down that path already. This election will be interesting.

Agbakolly:
Una no dey tire
365 days same old shiit
Away from football who else thinks dino melaye is been punished for threatening to rape and beat oluremi tinubu or Na just one of his many atrocities
Cc:larride and others

Just as Dayo said, Dino problem is with Yahaya Bello who I heard was once friends with Dino before he became governor. If the FG really wants to get Dino, they would have done that since, I believe Buhari is just trying to behave like a democrat that’s why he’s allowing all sorts within the party. I believe if Buhari wins second term, he would have learn some valuable lessons.

All politics is local and since Dino and Bello are on supremacy battle, one will have to bend for the other. Dino might probably not return to the senate in 2019. He’s a small fry compared to Tinubu. He’s the architect of his own problem. They are all trying to be like Reno, that one that has refused to come to Nigeria but tweeting away in Yankee. 2019 will retire a lot of these paperweight politicians.

iamJ:


see him dusting old files to defend his team

alagba calm down, come drag one make your mind relax


i didnt see your family name on united board of directors, take a chill pill


initially i meant trophies won since hazard got to chelsea, compared to the ones won at united

if my alama turning pain you, dont respond its not hard biko

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I actually know a Chelsea fan that love canceling out post whenever he starts receiving L upandown. It seems it’s in you guys blood.

Cheers.

iamJ:
hahahahaha so your entire team has just 1 more than hazard

22 players plus coaching staff

Lana1, please don’t bother yourself with this dolt anymore. Isn’t it obvious this guy fails even the most simplest arithmetic.

The difference between 2 and 7 is now 1. I wonder how nihilistjnr, ibime, nateevs, Pastor Skimple, unlimited doc feel supporting the same team this charlatan supports.

It seems the requirement for supporting Chelsea these days is unparalleled idiocy and unquantifiable stupidïty.

iamJ:
oga i cant waste weed highness on your yeye argument


so let me turn the amala for you, so i can have peace


i was talking about premier league titles
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It seems there’s a place where they breed special dolt like you, a place where ignorance is bliss.

Calling you stupîd or daft is actually an insult to stupîd people because your stupidîty is out of this world.

Let me remove Mata and Matic since they didn’t win their EPL title with us, I hope this cure you from whatever ailment you are suffering from:

Hazard has won 2 EPL titles with you guys

Antonio Valencia - 2 EPL
Chris Smalling - 2 EPL
Young - 1 EPL
Phil Jones - 1 EPL
DDG - 1 EPL

So I ask again, in which world or planet does Hazard has more “EPL” than the entire United team?

You and pop have been trying so hard to take hensbrain position as the most idiotîc poster on this board, keep this up and you might just win this inglorious throne.

iamJ:
shame no dey catch you


its titles mata and matic won with chelsea that you want to use to argue


let them give you guys the medals to put in your trophy room


incase you need more players with medals, we will sell cahill and willian for you, if you want we can add pedro, so you can increase your trophy haul


chelsea board when Manchester united bank alerts enters our maga that will forever pay
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Wait first,

10k says Pogba has more titles than Hazard.

Put your money where your mouth is.

iamJ:
hazard has won more titles than the entire united team


yet some people keep trying to compare him to their players
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If they ask you to put money on this claim now, you will start dancing atilogwu upandown.

10k says Hazard does not have more titles than the entire United team.

airmark:
Oga park well, he wasn't trolling. He would be a coward if he now calls it trolling. You may also tell us Dayo was trolling with his posts on Terry.

You know most times when you come on our thread, we usually talk about how limited Lingard is and stuffs like that. When he made that comparison, he was obviously trolling.

You can’t compare Dayo on Terry case as this one. Dayo get agenda when it comes to most English players, he just doesn’t rate them.

Anyway Lingard is still better than Hazard, argue with your keypad

airmark:
Imagine someone seriously putting Lingard above Hazard, yet some people would unknowingly put their lives under such doctor's judgement?

So this Lingard talk dey pepper you for body like this

Do you even know the meaning of trolling?