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"whatever" or "whoever? Its humans self perfection (self accuracy) we r talking about oh. For instant, A perfect man is so perfect dt he is sure nd confident of being in Spain 2maro, made al his perfect arrangements, plans nd contacts only 4 him to endup in d hospital after a terrible accidend enroute the airport. Hw is this human stil perfect?

My bro, ds where i get confused. Hw cn u say human is perfect? Where does d word "mistake" cm frm (evn among veterans)? Hw cn u b sure nd confident of d future wen things lyk wars or terrorist attack cn js bumb up in between nd cos a hell of a havoc to ur confident future? Y do u plan against unpredicted contigencies? If humans were perfect, d world would av being berra, mayb ego would av given in since to our own perfection

Brother, nbdy is completely heathy. U cn ask any doc. No absolute medical checkup is 100% passd. I tink d word "healthy" is relative, dts by d way though. Nw my bros, Hussle 4 survival no mata hw little it is does'nt mean a restful heart. A perfect existence does. I think a restful heart has entirely nting 2 worry about, everytin cms ur own way without side effects (dats wat we humans lvs, nbdy lvs 2 lose), a pesn wit a restful heart is perfect, confident of d future (humans r nt sure of d future) nd u nd i knw dat humans r imperfect either.

kennykool4u: GIVE HER UR HEART

r u d surgeon dat wil do d heart transplant? do u want him 2 die? What does she nid 2 hearts 4? Is anytin wrong wit her own heart?

nne3870: Do something you have never done before! It must not always be buying her gifts.
If you are a workholic, close early from work and may be go to the movies together. Spend quality time together outside the comfort of your house.(No intimacy pls)

Some guys believe is all about money and buying gifts but its way more than that. Visit an orphanage together and share love with the less previlege.
My one cent

well said Sis, u'l definately get ur 1 cent (wit commision sef)..

Al aiyt bro. Bt i think a persn wit weakness, diffulties nd prone to or wit sickness is neva a restful heart. A pesn wit weakness has no restful heart for "fear" of falling into danger, loosing a battle/race/game etc until he identifys ds weakness nd successfuly curtail it. A persn whos sick neva hs a restful heart because he continues to worry about he's health, 4 it may lead to d end of his life. A pesn wit diffulties neva has a restful heart, d memories alone mk d heart skip, dt is nt a restful heart oh, infact wit al d above conditions a pesn cn die of hrt attack oh, bros hw u c am nah

Affiliated: My heart is pretty restful though

then it means u r nw living a perfect life. No fear of any danger, no sickness of any sort, no weakness in any way, no nid of being careful of what u eat, drink, where u live, go, etc, no difficulty at al at al in ur life, etc. Congrats my bro, am hapi 4 U

YOU hv made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in YOU : SAINT AUGUSTINE, CONFESSIONS (SEE parag. 30)... Am a catholic 4 life

Hmmm, interesting. A little clearification pls: ur god is nt a partial god (i guess). He treats nd loves all equaly. Nw, i understand dat d result of ds reincarnation mk d earth more nd more difficult, so d soul dt died with incompleted task (e.g 100yrs ago) returns to earth to live nd struggle wit d "still alive nd fresh entries" thereby incuring in them (still living nd fresh enteries) a living dats more harsher nd tougher than theirs 100ys bk (as a result of inevitable competition), it luks to me a cruel cheat nd partiality. Should'nt d race b on equal grounds (god's equal lov 4 all men)? Y enjoy a less harsh struggle today (for those dat suddenly died) only to reincarnate nd mk d race more tough nd competitive 4 d locals (who r sopos to av dsame level of difficulty as u did on ur first incomplete trip 2 earth), i think its partiallity nah (d earlier d first arrival, d lesser d stress). Y wil ur god allow such partiality? Y nt js send al humans at d same time wit equal life span so dat no body wil b cheated? Or better stil, reincarnate into another "earth" were dia is no existing ones dia 2 stress? My thoughts though

Well said my bro. So "if" about milliöns soul dies (e.g a result of war, flu, plague etc) witout reaching dem period on earth, they wil al reincarnate nd return to earth to live nd struggle wit still alive souls nd fresh entries, wil it nt cos population outburst nd food scarcity thereby resulting to natural imbalance nd cømmotion dat'l mk it more difficult (esp 4 d still alive ones nd fresh entries which i think its partiality)? If ur god loves u so very much, he'l definately b eager to c u return bk to "his heart" as quick as possible, to do this, he'l hv to encourage humans to do dia best so they can return to him quickly or evn directly, is their no benefit or previlage gvn to early returnees (as it wil evn encourage peace nd moral among humans)? Y reincarnate humans into d earth to mk life harder 4 d stil alive ones nd d fresh entries (as d reincanated ones had lived a less challenging lives)

Ok oh

Ok well said as a xtain. Does it mean muslims, buddhist etc wil go to hell? No mata hw much they strive to b moral nd good to their fellow humans (luv my neighbour as u luv thy self)? Those dat r even prosecuted for upholding d truth for the betterness of human beings? Bt nt xtains, so u decree/conclude hell?

Guys, mk una stop ds "moronic" punches, its suppose to be an educative debate nah, haba

Affiliated: I'll leave this post for other Christians to handle. Christians in the house should please tell me if good muslims are going to heaven [I know the bible didn't say such a thing]

hahahahaha, nice one bro, bt i think al religion teaches nd encourages morals nd unconditional love as a guide to attaining heaven/paradise/eternal peace etc. So a weather a good muslim o, xtain o, pegan o, buddhist o, etc me i think dey wil al inherit heaven.

advocate666: I knew your neurones aren't developped enough to grasp such concepts. You are a good candidate for christianity.

lol, even d well learned pipo dat wrote nd compiled d literature "britanica" ? Evn the agency dat endorsed their work to b suit 4 public use, has neurones dat aren't developped enough? Oxford nd encata dictionary shares dsame idea so it means their writers nd compilers r also dumb lyk me? Gentle man, of what use is english language wen their r no books or literatures to explain its meaning? Or would u rather prefer to do so in another language? I nw take it dat either u r shy to defend ur believes yet chained to it or u hv being coerced to accept such believes by reasons other than love. Its obvious my conversation wit u is fruitless, i hv learnt nothing about ur religion (i dnt evn think it exists anyway). So i rest my case wit u here

Affiliated: ^Benodic said that. I was just asking a question and stating an opinion. I personally don't believe there's a place called heaven where souls go and live in eternal paradise. It would be extremely boring.

I'll leave the issues you raised to Benodic

well, if u dnt believe in heaven y raise it in ds debate nah? Nd i was already api dt smbdy here wil gv me a gud score on ds one

Affiliated: Are heaven and earth the only two places? Soul is from the universe[s] and will experience all the universe[s] Its the universe[s] experiencing itself
cc benodic. What do you think?

bt u said d soul came 4rm heavn to earth to learn love etc! Ok no wahala. Nw, who teaches d soul such tins on earth / other parts of d universe? D soul (my understanding) resides in d body here on earth. So wil it get anoda body (designed to survive other planets or universe) if it does'nt mk heavn directly after earth? I think d earlier a soul reaches heavn d happier he gets, is their no reward or incentives to motivate a soul nt to waste time gallivanting around space (4rm universe to universe) ? Wat'l evn tempt d soul in jupiter (e.g) nd hinder it 4rm going directly to heavn (i think a soul is more knwolegable dan human)? Is it buy insulting god?

advocate666: Ok Mr 11 yrs brain. Satananistic Atheism is when you don't believe in god but believe in Satan.

hmm, according 2 my britanica here, " Atheism=d believe dt god does'nt exist" , " god= a spiritual being/ d source of life nd creation"... Nw, u claim dt satan is d source of life, creator nd all wise (whch by d renownd britanica means god) so by that, satan = god, nd atheism = no god. Nw satanistic atheism = god no god. Bros, it does'nt mk sence (god no god). Y dnt u js say "satanist" rather than "satanistic atheism" then we continue.

benodic: @ Affiliated



I read with a very sad heart what was written above. the way souls are being condemned to eternal torture by the same God that Christians claim loves soul so dearly and this is where we differ. ECKANKAR teaches that God loves soul dearly that it gives soul total freedom to live it life at it deems fit. soul came from heaven to earth to learn how to love and to reach spiritual maturity after which soul goes back to heaven where it came from. no one is hell bound.

God has given each soul perfect freedom of choice to choose when it wants to come back home. there is no compulsion, there is no threat and there are millions of chances and opportunities which are of course endless. soul is also very free even not to believe in the existence of God. it really does not matter to God.

bros abeg, is it only on earth a soul can learn to love nd acquire spiritual maturity? What happnd in heaven? Y cnt d soul learn it in heaven? Is there no teacher in heavn? Who is d teacher on earth? What if d soul does'nt learn these tin or achieve spiritual maturity nd mayb d pesn dies untimely or evn refuses to learn at all (as par freedom)? He wil remain on earth? Religion too much oh

benodic: @ Affiliated



I read with a very sad heart what was written above. the way souls are being condemned to eternal torture by the same God that Christians claim loves soul so dearly and this is where we differ. ECKANKAR teaches that God loves soul dearly that it gives soul total freedom to live it life at it deems fit. soul came from heaven to earth to learn how to love and to reach spiritual maturity after which soul goes back to heaven where it came from. no one is hell bound.

God has given each soul perfect freedom of choice to choose when it wants to come back home. there is no compulsion, there is no threat and there are millions of chances and opportunities which are of course endless. soul is also very free even not to believe in the existence of God. it really does not matter to God.

bros abeg, is it only on earth a soul can learn to love nd acquire spiritual maturity? What happnd in heaven? Y cnt d soul learn it in heaven? Is there no teacher in heavn? Who is d teacher on earth? What if d soul does'nt learn these tin or achieve spiritual maturity nd mayb d pesn dies untimely or evn refuses to learn at all (as par freedom)? He wil remain on earth? Religion too much oh

advocate666: Are you ashamed of your beliefs that you would not tell us what it is?

And yes, the manner of my response will depend on your religion because I have noticed that the brain wiring of people are related to their belief systems. So you have to explain things differently to different people if you do not wish to be misunderstood. You do not explain the concept of photosynthesis the same way to an 8 year old as you would a biology student in the uni. You simply won't be understood.

So as you are reluctant to proclaim your beliefs (the first person I've met to be so), do you want me to explain Atheistic Satanism to you as if your brain was that of a 6 year old or as that of an 11 year old. [sorry I don't see you with a more mature encephalon]

u mk me laff so had. Evry teaching has sm basics, fundamentals or reference point nd dt ws y i startd 4rm creation whch u quickly commented on witout seeking 2 knw whr i stand first only to sence a loophole (mayb) then try to divert by seeking 4 my own stance. Dats nt aw to win a convert my guy. Ok no wahala, gv me an eleven yr old explanation, then build up 4rm there.

advocate666: I will explain myself in due course, but I need to know who I am discussing with. (is this a discussion or an exam class?) I have told you my religion/belief. Why are you reluctant to say yours?

hehehehe, "atheistic satanist, tell me urs, want to knw mine so u'l knw hw to coil ur words" hehehe, joke of d century. Bro, does d teachings nd understanding about ur religion depends on other pipo's religion? Do ur religion hav different teachings (mayb ambiguous ones) targeted to different religiòns (e.g u av a version 4 challenging xtains, a different on 4 muslims, etc) such dt u'l nid to knw whr i fall into 2 determine d version of ur religion to use at me? A religious believe should b constant, it should'nt b subject to circumstances or situation ( e.g u to a xtain 2day satan is creator nd dwells in hell, then u, 2 a buddhist 2maro, mayb obama is creator,nt satan) bro, if u nid 2 knw whr i stand b4 u answer my questions, then its clear u dnt understand ur religion, u r nt proud of it nd u r js following d teachings unaidedly

advocate666: What are you?

My guy, y r u so clueless about ur belives? Y r u so weak to defend nd xplain ur answers? Ok, hw cn u convert me into ur likes wen u dnt av any understanding about ur likes?

advocate666: I am an atheistic Satanist. What are you?

bro, d lst time i checked, atheist believes in no deity, god or spirit nt to talk of religion or spiritually inclined notions. Satanist believes in satan, dt he exists a spirit, a deity/god. Nw hw does "atheistic satanist" mks sence? Or u js want to confuse me? Pls ans d "why's nd when" questions i asked u. Dnt divert

advocate666: Can you prove there is no Hell?

bro, i did'nt debunk ur reply. I am asking 4 u 2 provide me the rational behind ur answers, simple. So i as again, according to u, satan is d wise one dt gvs pleasure, life nd is in hell. So what is hell? Where is hell? Y is satan in hell as u said, is d earth 2 sml or populated 4 him? Wat of d moon, 2 sml? D sun nko, 2 hot? Pls i nid a reasonable answer (weither u r a xtain or atheist)

advocate666: Satan is the wise one. The giver of life. The harbinger of death and destruction of the godly. The creator. The alpha and omega. The ruler of hell. The giver of wisdom, pleasure, health, wealth and happiness.

If you want him in your life, seek knowledge and he will come.

brother, if he is d giva of pleasure, life etc then wat is hell? Where is hell? Hw cn u prove he is in hell? y is he in hell? Abeg answer

advocate666: Satan made it. Unless you can prove he didn't.

pls who is satan? Hw nd y did he/she/it made it?

^^^ u av made ur point "u don't knw wat caused it" so i may assert dat u believe dat smtin actually caused it (as 4 d big bang) or formed it (as 4 d earth) nd i may also presume dat "wat ever" d cause is (too early to use "whoever" nw) is unearthly nd extra-terrestrial, nd also mst av an origin. Nw pls smbdy else (since my brother here hs gone 2 sleep) clearify me on its origin or form mayb evn reasön (science is also about reasn) please oh, mk my head clear nah

The Holy Bible talk about God bt atheist don't believe in God so its entirely unwise for a xtain to base his arguments on biblical references. Bt i hv a question 4 d atheists: pls how did earth nd all of its likes came to exist? I nid ur enlightenment on this

^^^ bros tk am easy. U no go blame am 4 advertising everywhere, life ain't easy

@ Op, wow, only "2 working days" ? Lol, u r js d most foolish job scammer i av eva seen.

Wat d hell? JOEL my man, u mean wat? If na true den I think smbdy has lodged their stipends into a private account or worst of all use it to trow a lavishing xmas groove...