paulGrundy:


Have you read this book?

pay attention to yourself and to your flock 1991-Edition p.94

If yes paste the full quote, if no then its better to be queit than to be making speculations.

I haven't read it, I'm not an elder, you obviously "were". But from my understanding of 2 corinthians 6:14, I find it hard to understand what else would make a baptised witness have the desire to attend other churches save for the reason that he has been led astray. You more than anyone knows what happens to such persons.

paulGrundy:


Was 1914 the only year war broke out? How about world war 2?

Well I guess JESUS has marked his return several times.

Matthew 24:6 "You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars“

paulGrundy:


False worship. Includes;
Attending another church pay attention to yourself and to your flock 1991-Edition p.94

Ask your kingdom hall elder for verification, I understand that members cannot access that book.

Why did Jehovah command the Israelites to stay away from other nations around them? Deuteronomy 20:18. It is unlikely to attend the churches of christendom and not be swayed by their teachings. Apostate beliefs is very much likely to settle in such a person's heart. Hence, like I said earlier, the reason for such a person being disfellowshipped is not because he attended another church but when, by conduct, he shows signs that he has deviated from the truth

paulGrundy:
11. They prefer to die than to accept blood transfusions.

What's the difference between taking pills laced with heroine and injecting it into your body? What's the difference between drinking blood and transfusing it into your body? Abstain from blood, it's a clear instruction from God. Acts 15:20&29

12. They have predicted the end of the world about 20 times and in some occasions are specific with dates e.g 1914, 1925, 1975.

False not 20 times , it was first thought the world would end in 1914 but it turns out that it was the period Jesus Christ said would mark his return as stated in Matthew 24:6-14. That was the year World War I broke out. No one else saw that coming but us

13. They do not marry outside their religion.

True. 2 corinthians 6:14

14. They believe that their REligion is the only true religion, all others: catholic, pentecostal e.t.c are satanic.

False. We don't claim to be the true religion. We leave that choice to independent observers Matthew 7:15-20

15. They believe they are the only ones that will make heaven.

False.
We believe in everlasting life on a paradise earth and a specific number the 144,000 shall rule as Kings with Christ in heaven. Psalms 37:9,10&11 Revelation 7:4-8

16. They don't accept organ transplant, they call it cannibalism.

False, although one Watchtower (11/15/67) compared accepting a transplanted organ to cannibalism. However, even in this article the matter was left entirely up to the personal choice of the individual, with no mention of disciplinary measures

17. A jehovahs witness sister can be disfellowshipped for being a victim of molestation.

False. A person is only disfellowshipped upon committing gross sin such as fornication 1 corinthians 5:9-13

18. You can be disfellowshiped as a witness for attending another church.

False, we don't force our members not to attend any other church. But when one begins to show signs of apostasy or adoption of immoral lifestyles then such are grounds for disfellowshipment

10. They Refuse To Go To War Or Bear Arms In Conflict
When it comes to war, Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse to bear
arms or engage in war or conflict of any kind—even when
refusing means imprisonment or execution.
Claiming to be a continuation of a first-century Christian
congregation, they cite the ancient faith’s refusal to participate
in war as one reason for their own refusal. Confirming this
historical fact, The Encyclopedia of Religion and War states
that the first disciples felt that war and political conflict were
“incompatible with the love ethic of Jesus and the injunction
to love one’s enemies.”
They also cite their obedience to God and Jesus Christ’s
commands (including His admonition to the Apostle Peter to
return his weapon to its place in more than one of the
Gospels)—as well as their love of those around them—to be
additional reasons for their refusal to participate in military
action. They have faced resentment and ostracism from
political parties around the world. Countries such as Armenia ,
Turkey, and Eritrea in recent times have convicted, fined,
imprisoned, and even tortured members for their
conscientious objection. As of mid-2013, one country—South
Korea— held 93 percent of imprisoned Jehovah’s Witnesses.

9. They Do Not Use The Cross
The fact that Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t wear the cross or
use it in their worship isn’t because they don’t like the shape
—the symbol of the cross is actually completely against their
beliefs.
Both encyclopedias and scholarly works attest to the cross’s
pre-Christian origin as well as its ties with worship of
Egyptian, Babylonian, Norse, and other gods, not to mention it
being regarded as a historical symbol of the male Instruments
and the coupling of the reproductive organs by some
authorities.
Jehovah’s Witnesses also claim that Jesus Christ did not die
on a cross but rather on a simple upright torture stake with
no crossing beams. Looking into earlier manuscripts, they
have argued that some words usually rendered as “cross” in
most modern translations, instead originally carried the
meaning noted above . Though there are some scholars and
Bible translators that agree with this view, it continues to be a
hotly debated topic.
Rejecting anything that smacks of what they refer to as
paganism—and without seeing support for the cross’s use in
Jesus’s execution—Jehovah’s Witnesses thus discourage the
use of the cross in worship.

8. Members Are Active In Many Lands
Though we usually see them walking in pairs around the
neighborhood or we have a believing co-worker or
schoolmate, few know how international the religion has
become in recent years. Active Jehovah’s Witnesses can
currently be found in a claimed 239 lands around the globe.
Known for their order and keeping accurate records, they keep
close tabs on their progress as an organization. Their official
website keeps statistics on their position and growth and
regularly updates them. Currently, there are almost eight
million active members worldwide in over 110,000
congregations. Needless to say, the Witnesses also take their
preaching very seriously. With a goal of reaching as many
people as possible with their message, their website has
publications and information available on the spot in nearly
700 languages. Included in this figure are many sign
languages from around the world as well as the languages of
aboriginal tribes from the Amazon and North America.

7. Clergy Are Not Paid And They Do Not Collect Tithing
If you’ve ever wondered how Jehovah’s Witnesses print all
their literature and organize their work, the simple answer is
“voluntary contributions.”
The Witnesses do not practice tithing and do not take
collections at meetings in their places of worship (called
kingdom halls). They are funded by the donations given by
members if, when, and however they want to contribute.
These finances are then distributed to local headquarters
called branch offices that can be found in many countries.
According to their website, these branch offices apportion the
money to causes like the construction of kingdom halls, aid in
areas affected by natural disasters, support for missionaries,
and the publication and distribution of religious literature.
Within the organization, no money is given in compensation
for the door-to-door work. There are also no salaried clergy
members. Contrary to most Christian faiths, all members are
unpaid volunteers ordained as ministers and are expected to
share in the evangelizing work regardless of age, race, or
social status. Only a few—known as elders— oversee
individual congregations .

6. Targets Of Adolf Hitler And Nazis
While most are acquainted with the infamous dictator’s
persecution of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other
minorities, many are not familiar with his imprisonment,
torture, and execution of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Starting in
1933 and ending in 1945, the Witnesses faced persecution due
to their different ideology in regards to government and war.
While they did—and still do—claim to abide by government
laws and decrees, they do so wherever it does not conflict
with their devotion to the Bible. Thus, they refused to fight in
World War I and refused to support the National Socialism
party in Germany.
Because of this, Witness schoolchildren were humiliated,
beaten, or expelled for their refusal to sing political songs and
do the notorious salute. Their literature was banned, their
work benefits eradicated, and about 10,000 were sent to
concentration camps and prisons where they could be
identified by the purple triangle they were forced to wear on
their uniforms. It is estimated that up to 5,000 perished.
Unlike other persecuted groups, it is of note that the Witnesses
were the only group that were offered the chance to renounce
their beliefs and be set free—a choice that the great majority
declined. Also, according to a commanding officer in
Auschwitz, SS Chief Heinrich Himmler often used the faith of
Jehovah’s Witnesses as a model for his own troops, and it
was not uncommon for them to be used as domestic servants
by guards and officers due to their strong, Bible-based ethics.
Because of this and other intense opposition carried on by
different countries and parties, the religious group has been
called perhaps the most persecuted religion of the 20th-
century.

5. They Don’t Celebrate Holidays
Many are surprised to learn that Jehovah’s Witnesses, who
come under the grouping of Christian religions, reject holidays
that have Christian undertones— Easter and Christmas
included . Why?
The main argument of the Witnesses is that the far majority of
these holidays—as well as birthdays—have pagan origins, or
roots that are not Bible-based or based in Christian
teachings. They base their organization around the structure
and doctrines of the first-century Christian congregation, a
group that also rejected many similar customs.
For instance, the World Book Encyclopedia notes that “the
early Christians did not celebrate [Jesus’s] birth because they
considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan
custom.” Various scholars and authors have also connected
the Christmas tree and such customs as gift giving, putting up
Christmas lights, and the use of mistletoe with Roman
festivals and Druid practices. It is also a recognized fact that
the date of Christ’s birth is not known. December 25 actually
correlates to a celebration of the infant god of light by the Cult
of Mithras .
Examination of such holidays as Easter, Valentine’s Day, and
Halloween also reveal similar origins. The Witnesses claim
that practices and customs that are directly disapproved by
God—or are practiced by people that He does not approve of
—merit censure. Thus, even though it has been hundreds or
thousands of years since these un-Christian practices
originated or mixed in with popular holidays and celebrations,
Jehovah’s Witnesses feel that these would displease the God
of the Bible.

4. They Do Not Accept Blood Transfusions
Many misinterpret the stand of Jehovah’s Witnesses and
believe they’re against all medicine and medical care or think
they believe in faith healing as preferred to any medical
procedures. In truth, they do not practice faith healing and
they visit doctors and hospitals and accept any procedures
that are bloodless.
The Witnesses view blood transfusions as an act against the
Bible’s commands to refrain from taking in blood both in the
New and Old Testament. An example of one such command
that they cite is in the scripture in Acts 15:28–29 which
states: “For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored
adding no further burden to you except these necessary
things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from
blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If
you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will
prosper.”
Although their stance against blood transfusion is mainly a
religious one, they cite medical journals, such as The Journal
of Thoracic and Cardiovascular Surgery , that note that those
who do not receive transfusions usually fare as well as or
better than those who do accept transfusions. Of course,
many other medical experts will share contrary views. They
also feel that rejecting such keeps them safe from blood
transfusion complications such as blood-borne diseases and
immune system reactions.
Though this position has been criticized for years as being a
huge risk—and even as suicide—and has resulted in much
hate, persecution, and countless court battles, some believe
that some of the techniques used in Jehovah’s Witness
patients may find wider uses in the coming years.

3. They Believe The Faithful Are Rewarded With A Paradise On
Earth
Unlike the majority of Christian religions—and even religions
like Islam—that believe in the prospect of going to heaven for
the righteous, Jehovah’s Witnesses stand in stark contrast.
Although they do believe that a certain select group will
receive a heavenly reward , Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that
God will cleanse the Earth of wickedness in the near future.
They also believe that God will reintroduce the paradise
conditions that He intended for the human race in the
beginning. They refer to this time as the re-creation, the
paradise, or the new system of things.
To support this belief, they refer to the model prayer recorded
in Matthew, where Christ prayed for God to carry out His will
for Earth as He wills for heaven. According to their
interpretation of the Bible, His will for the Earth includes a
resurrection of the dead (based on Acts 24:15 and John
5:28–29), harmony between animals and humans (based on
Isaiah 11:6–9), an absence of crime or war (based on Psalm
37:10–11, 29 and Isaiah 2:4), and a removal of all illnesses,
the aging process, and death (based on Isaiah 35:5–6 and
Revelation 21:3–4) among other things.

2. They Pronounce The Name Of God As ‘Jehovah’
Although many Bible translations have removed the name of
God, many translators deemed it inappropriate for God to be
called by a personal name. Jehovah’s Witnesses both
pronounce it and prefer using the New World Translation
which restores the divine name more than 7,000 times.
In ancient Hebrew manuscripts, the personal name of God
(still seen in certain translations such as the original King
James Version in Psalm 83:18) was originally written with
four Hebrew consonants called the Tetragrammaton. While
many did not translate it or use it because they felt that such
was not showing proper reverence for the holiness of the
name or because we do not know exactly how that name was
originally pronounced , Jehovah’s Witnesses argue that
scriptures like John 17:6 and 26 along with Joel 2:32
highlight the importance of God’s name and the fact that it
was used by faithful Jews and even Christ himself. They also
argue that not knowing the original pronunciation of God’s
name should not stop people from using it, just as our not
knowing the exact pronunciation of Jesus’s Hebrew name has
not stopped modern Christians from using it.
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be the first to use the
form “Jehovah,” acknowledging that some earlier renditions
render the Tetragrammaton as “Yahweh.” However, the
modern rendition best recognized is “Jehovah” as previously
noted by William Tyndale, Bible scholar Joseph Bryant
Rotherham, and translations like 1901′s American Standard
Version.

1. They Believe These Are The Last Days
While many will acknowledge that we are now living in times
and conditions that are momentous for one reason or another,
Jehovah’s Witnesses take modern events and conditions as
signs that the end of modern society as we know it is
approaching.
To prove this, the Witnesses highlight Bible prophecies that
they feel are being fulfilled increasingly in the last 100 years.
One account is recorded in Matthew 24, when Christ predicted
future events that would precede “the end”; He pointed to an
increase in wars, food shortages, diseases, and earthquakes
which would all intensify during the same time frame.
They also point to the Apostle Paul’s description of the last
days in 2 Timothy 3:1–5, a time when people’s traits would
be characterized by a lack of self-control, fierceness, love of
pleasure, selfishness, and a turning away from religion and
spirituality by the majority . They also cite what they feel are
positive developments, such as the fact that the “good news”
would be preached on an unprecedented scale before “the
end.” This is a work that the Witnesses claim they are doing
at an unparalleled rate .
Confident of Biblical predictions because of already fulfilled
predictions—according to their interpretation—such as the
specific way the empire of Babylon would fall and be
desolated, the rise and fall of the League of Nations, and the
rise of the United Nations, they are awaiting paradise and in
the meantime a-knocking and a-talking everywhere about “the
good news,” a hope for the future , and their beliefs .
Source: http://listverse.com/2014/11/13/10-things-you-never-knew-about-jehovahs-witnesses/

Lol, girls are in trouble. I certainly won't be downloading it sha.

DaBullIT:


Bros. I never said US is a saint. My argument is that Guantanamo bay is notorious but only notorious for torturing suspected and full blown terrorists . but in Nigeria every police station in Nigeria tortures suspects and criminals . Some soldiers , a group , one unit , one infantry check their names you'll find out that they are islamists .

I get your point. But whatabout real terrorists who have been cooperating with investigations ? Those are the ones who told US where to find bin laden ....

No terrorist is innocent suspected or not

True talk.

cegxie:


See mine here... Nokia 6110.. I remember this phone well because mine came with a desktop charger that makes the phone stand when plugged in. Big deal especially when my desk and clients come to see me.. Then people did not have phone much.. But I was communicating even when no credit for the fone.. Forming things..

Mehn na wa o, that phone is really ancient. I remember I used to have a toy phone like that. Technology sha

Godditex:
The Nigerian science students have been reduced to nothingness because of non exposure to modern science apparatus in our so-call institutions. Take a good look at some of the lab in our tertiary institution and you will weep. Why is it that when this same science students travel abroad they break records? Its because the environment and facilities are life transforming.

I keep saying that Nigerians are the most creative and innovative people have ever seen, but because of the decadence in our country this creativity has only been witness on the negative. Give them the right tools and environment and watch them cause the world to a standstill.

You're right, when all we do here is book book book and no practicals how can our ingenuity be developed? These science students run after oil company jobs because they know that no one will sponsor them here even if they have good ideas. Their parents won't even encourage them sef, just get a job in oil company and leave all that one for "oyinbo" people to do. It's sad, not just science sef even my field, law.

DaBullIT:


What's this one saying ?

You no sabi where this yawa begin you carry aproko come dey insult pesin .

Maybe its the world who is blinded by jealousy and hate , maybe its the world who is blinded by fury.

I'm not saying US govt is perfect I'm saying they don't fumble about bullying other smaller nations

WTC was bombed wasn't it ?
Osama/Al quida claimed responsibility
Some nations were celebrating the horrible incident while some scampered in fear for they know what will come

What most people say is America went to Iraq for oil. How many times have you read that a bunker delivered crude to US borders even till date ?
So think about it . and for your info I read different versions of news and opinions before drawing my conclusions

Google.it Google.co.uk , Google.fr ,Google.com.es , Google.il , Even Google Saudi USA can not control all the search engines in the world. Of course there will be cry babies saying every move US makes is wrong , You don't go around dancing fire hoping not to get burnt

Google : countries celebrate 9/11 or Saddam Hussein IED or All queida IRAQ. You would see that several factors amounted to invasion of Iraq not oil

Some soldiers sent to Iraq themselves all opened up on ABC news that the real reason they were sent to Iraq was none other than oil. And if truly you get your news from different sources you surely should've come across reports and photos of inmates of Guantanamo Bay who are sexually harassed and tortured. Recently a guy was released from there after it was proven that the allegations of terrorism against him were false. So dude, the US is not the angel you think it is, it's just a devil in disguise.

Hmm, I haven't seen much people complaining about the battery on the TH6 thread, all I've been seeing is, "this phone is awesome", "beast", "best tecno phone". Thanks for the honesty though.

No 10. I remember when my mom bought it for me. I was like mehn see gadget with the polyphonic tones, I remember it was 11k then in Abuja way back 2007. Used it for 2 years and eventually gave it to my mom when I got that virus phone Nokia 3110c. It's still alive till today sha.

What's the difference between taking pills laced with heroine and injecting it into your blood? What's the difference between drinking another person's blood and transfusing it into your body?

I haven't tried much launchers but I'm currently using Nova launcher, it's ram and battery friendly. Go launcher is nice but it's a no for phones with just 512MB ram. Google now launcher and yahoo aviate drain battery like a thirsty man in the desert.

freecocoa:
Good for you mate.

Thanks

freecocoa:
Okay then, I take it to mean you don't have any girlfriends then, you only keep female friends hoping to choose a girlfriend out of them, a girlfriend who may end up as the wifey or not, no?

You're right. Currently I'm not even searching sef cuz I'm way too young make a good decision on who would make a compatible marriage mate. So till when I'm old enough to understand myself better it's all friends for now.

freecocoa:
What do you mean by doing a lot of sieving? So if you happened to meet a girl who's compatible with you and all, because you feel you need to search and sieve, you'd let her go or keep her while still searching?

If you find a compatible girl, keep her. But how often does that happen. When you go to a boutique to buy shoes, do you settle for the first shoe you see or do you look around to see if there's anyone better? The best you can do is keep that one in mind in case you don't see anyother. If I were to meet a girl who I felt was compatible I'd remain friends with her for a while as I searched for others. If I see she's the best then we can hit it off.

Suzyky4u:
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Oh really? Is that how ur dad got ur mum or your sister narrated her experience?

No, my dad went through stress before he could get my mom's affection. You can't get a good wife easily, at least not in this era. If you want a good wife you have to search REALLY well and do a lot of sieving. To find gold you need to be ready to get your hands dirty. So if you want to do it without stress hence my original post.

There's no way to find a good wife without going through stress but if you want the easy way out just walk into a mall with $1000 in hand, go close to the female clothes section, fan it in the air. Done

irunobo2:


Didinrin. Take the message and ignore the messenger if u don't want to rot in Hell

Ever heard of the word hypocrite and "remove the rafter from your eye first"? With the crappy topics you post on nairaland, how do you expect to be taken seriously? I suggest you start with yourself first. Live by the word. Matthew 7:21-23

@op Thanks for creating the thread and alerting others who may want to purchase the phone. Some peeps may be experiencing the problems you've stated either about the injoo or another brand but may be ashamed to say them because they've finished singing songs of praise about the phone all over the threads here on phone section, and all over the Internet sef. I must say though that's the risk in quickly acquiring a newly released phone the moment it comes out, and unfortunately people keep making that same mistake over and over again. Some just get easily swayed by the hyperbolic descriptions some deceitful guys here on nairaland use and quickly jump for it only to see it has faults and that the same guys who nugged them on to buy it have sold theirs to get another one. Chasing after the wind. Y'all shouldn't rush to buy a phone even if it seems so awesome, relax keep watching the thread and see if any complaints are made about it. We wouldn't have so much complaints on the infinix zero thread if people had only exercised patience.

A food for thought to all evolutionists before I leave the thread. If natural selection posits that survival traits are developed and passed on from generation to generation therefore eliminating less favorable traits, why haven't humans "developed" the ability to withstand diseases without needing medications? Why haven't we "developed" the ability to live forever, a natural desire of all living things? Why haven't we "developed" skins that can withstand the effects of the ever worsening climate? Why haven't we "developed" the abilities we seek from gadgets and devices? Why haven't we "developed" the ability to naturally eliminate hereditary diseases?

krayzieklay:

Open your eyes,bro. You can't tell me you know the bible and history of Christianity more than the Pope.

I sincerely hope you guys will think out of the box one day.

Maybe I don't. Buy I definitely know the bible kicks against homosexual practices in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 if not God might as well apologize to the Sodomites whom He destroyed as a result of their gross sin. And I know for a certainty humans didn't evolve from apes, we were created from dust with the ability to think and reason. If the Pope knows all this so well, why does he yet agree with unbiblical teachings and practices? There's a thin line between thinking outside the box and thinking completely out of context. We do well not to add to what the Bible says Revelation 22:18,19

I really don't like commenting on matters of religion here on nairaland because of how ignorant some people choose to be but this I cannot stand. I was shocked when I saw this on Facebook this morning. Is he insinuating that God does not have the power to create intelligent humans from dust? Is he implying that the Bible is just an old story book? With each passing day this Pope continues to go beyond the teachings of the bible in order to bring more people into the church. This was exactly what Emperor Constantine did when he indoctrinated many pagan beliefs into the church and look at what it is now, a mix of practices and celebrations which no one can defend with the bible. If this goes on, I won't be surprised when soon gay catholics will start teaching the theory of evolution and the big bang theory to little kids. Christians heed the warning in Matthew 7:15-20

wilson61:
just got d h5, thanks once more

You're welcome

wilson61:
thanks 4 ur time man,rily appreciate

You're welcome, anytime.

wilson61:
thanks bros,what sort of issues

You can't boot into recovery mode which means you can't backup cwm except with a laptop and that's still useless cuz you won't be able to flash it either way without having to boot into recovery mode, that's the major issue. Also it lags a bit more than other tecno phones with 512MB ram, I know this cuz i compared it with a tecno H5 and an M3, there're much swifter. Basically those are the only issues. The bass sound of my p5 when using earphones is terrible, the speaker isn't loud either. I don't know if it's a general thing or it's a problem exclusive to Tp5 only, so I won't add that. Luckily I was able to solve the sound issue albeit partially using Viper4android app

wilson61:
Guys pls i'm abt 2 gt a phone dis evening...tecno p5 or tecno h5,which is better....btw,d h5 is cheaper by a thousand naira

There's not much difference between them but from personal experience I'd advice you choose the H5. The P5's in the market now have issues, mine included.

Finally, a way for guys to delete typos before the babes they've been yarning see them and think they're morons.

Change is constant, yes. But some personality traits are deeply engrained and hard to change. It takes the grace of God, the problem is, usually most people aren't willing to change themselves as a result of pride. Such ones you can predict their actions.

Lol, Airtel

safas20:
it isn't poorly manufactured at all, mere looking your phone, it looks exactly like the Alabama made phone because it doesn't worth android at all, tell me where will my friend repair his phone it got broken

Alabama made phone? I use a tecno p5, and I'll be honest it's crappy with it's 512MB ram, but my sim slots work perfectly fine and I'm not afraid it's gonna shatter in pieces when it falls. Camera works fine too. Oh yeah, and it's quite easy to root, the basic thing that makes an android device what it is. If you can't root the infinix, is it worthy of being called an android phone? The success of a device or gadget is not by how much buyers it can pull, it's by how less those buyers have to repair or complain about the phone. Your friend's phone got broken? I suppose it's an infinix. You're the agent, if you ask me, who will I ask?!