₦airaland Forum

mzilakazi:
The presence is my point.

no, you said BH has taken more than 3 states in Nigeria. Each time you're floored, you change the context of the debate. Is there a virtual sand where you can burry your head in shame?

jln115:
So for 16 years BH has made a mockery of your defence force!!!!!! Then you want to come to this thread and claim Nigeria has the strongest military in Africa but you've yet to defeat BH after 16 YEARS!!!

boko haram only becsme militarily active from 2010

mzilakazi:
We are taking about their presence above 3 states. Remember you said they are only restricted to only 3 states.

terrorist bombings are hit and run , leaving no presence behind. They have not been able to ESTABLISH their presence beyond those 3 states apart from isolated suicide bombings here and there.

mzilakazi:
Abuja was bombed right in the city centre and many people were killed.

does that make Abuja under the control of BH?

jln115:
What about 2007 and 2008 or even 2009? BH only started getting violent around the 2010/2011 mark!

BH has been around in 1999. The armed oil militant which were agitating for better conditions in the Niger Delta creeks and usually kidnapped foreign workers, engaged the entire federation in an arm struggle was respobsible for the 2007 indices and before. The nigerdelta ministry and amnesty solved the problem.

What is south Africa's reason for being in the 122 position when there has been no arm struggle or insurgency?

mzilakazi:
You know what,? the BH strategy is to demoralise security agencies by bombing indiscriminately from city to city and even to the far cities as South.

Beware!!

we are not talking about their strategy. We are talking about the state they partially control. And it remain 0 for now. Those three States are just partial occupation.

cococandy:
To answer the OP
Yes.

And women are monogamous in nature.
Once attracted to one man, they can't ever be attracted to another or Even be tempted in any way to get close to another man.

#feeling like an angel

you're just being sarcastic right?

I can't help but say yes. A man produces millions of sperm until he dies. His sexual hormones and reproductive abilities are not affected by age.

His sex drive can be arosed as fast as a bulb switch.

The blood flow to his phallus is completely made a slave by the soft, rhythmic bounce of the female asscheek. As is the heaving of her chest.

With the skin -clinging and torso- hugging outfit that has become the regular garb for women these days, the man has become the victim of visual sexual harassment. What a cruel unjust world.

In the office, parks, market, churches and in the virtual worlds of Nairaland, whatsaap and Facebook , a man gets hit with a subtle but wicket revelation of the shape, texture, size and constitution of the very female core- everything is revealed except the colour.

Only an insignificant number of men CAN be faithful.

mzilakazi:
Four, including Kano and Jos. Boko took over Four big states almost over quota of Nigeria.

you can't stay away, babe.

mzilakazi:
Yes of course. It is a sign of the presence of BH. It means BH is spreading all over Nigeria slowly but surely.

any city can be bombed. A city would have been considered taken by insurgency when it has overthrown the security structures and established its cells there.

jln115:
decline? you were ranked 117th/121 in 2007 and 147th/162 in 2008 then there was a slight decline in 2009 where Nigeria was ranked 143rd/162 in 2009 and your BH crisis only really started in 2010!

Our worst ranking was in 2009, when we were ranked 133rd/162 so our GPI in fact is getting better and yours is getting worse!

I meant there has been an increase only since the advent of BH.

What is south Africa's excuse being 122nd in the world?

mzilakazi:
Bwahaha… Kano was bombed by BH not long ago and Jos is a regular customer of BH suicide bombings. Just two days ago Jos lost 46 people on twin bombing.


Abuja and Lagos were also bombed.

does these pocket of bombings make these cities fallen to boko haram? logic has never been easy on you

vandalZA:
LOLEST stop posting links from newspapers because I can create my own news and links too and show us what the world bank says.....since then you are using the Nigerian mentality.!

when a graceless mental applicant like you rushes into an online forum , you ridicule everyone unfortunate enough to bear your name. The link quoted was a south African link.

Come up with a better defence. You're so stupidly boring and lacking in tact.

jln115:
Nigeria was rated 117 out of 121 countries on the GPI scale in 2007, thus the 5th most shityest country in the world! we were ranked 99th
and in 2008 Nigeria was ranked 147th out of 162 countries we were ranked 105th(Higher than the US)

http://www.photius.com/rankings/global_peace_index_2007.html
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/#/page/indexes/global-peace-index/2008

That's why I asked you to post this. Because your earlier post suggestes we were ranked 147 by 2007. Thanks, your post suggest there was only a decline from the onset of boko haram insurgency.

But what is south Africa's excuse for being a cesspool of savages and brutes occupying the 122nd position?

mzilakazi:
Four, including Kano and Jos. Boko took over Four big states almost over quota of Nigeria.

kano and jos hold no boko haram. One suicide bomb there and here doesn't make them there. Sorry, even in the 3 states they currently are, it just a fraction of these states they are as they have been reduced to pure suicide bombings bow. Tough luck on you.

vandalZA:
lolest so running around in fear of boko haram booming everywhere is better than leaving in south Africa Mmh your brothers are thinking of something different from yours in south Africa

boko haram is restricted to 3 states in Nigeria's 36 states. Your vices are nationwide.

jln115:
Seems like i made a mistake with 2007 rating! But are you sure you want to see it because its even worse!!

show your hand.

Nothing could be more laughable than a "developed" country with a peaceful atmosphere ranking 122nd worse place to live.

Patchesagain:
you are lower than us dipshit

That means you have somehow reached the bottom of the bottomless po0l of sh11t

it means south Africa is perpetually at war. It means south Africa doesn't know the difference between peace and war.

We're looking forward to ending boko haram. South Africa is looking forward to a myriad of the worse blend of social maladjustment

jln115:
Tell me what peaceful Nigeria was doing in 143rd in 2007 or 147th in 2008 or 144th in 2010?

boko Hiram have raged for about 6 years Now.

Now give me a GPI source of 2007 about Nigeria's rating please.

andrewza:
Our own power is being imported back. We have a set contract to give x amount and we buying x back.

I have not had a load shedding in months.

importing your power back? Interpreted: south Africa can't generate enough power for its own domestic use.

vandalZA:
your dream is to be a south African and that dream will never come true.....send me a link that says eskom sold some of its stake and give the name of that entity that bought the stake and confirming the ownership of the stake.....LOLEST I'm used to this what can we say, Nigerian mentality leaving in a dream land!

if I am a south African , there is a 3/4 chances I will contact HIV or die in a gun related violence. The chances that my aged grandmother will be gang raped is 2/3.

No, I consider south Africans the most uncouth in Africa. Not even Burundi can be xenophobic and thieves three times in their history.

Such a shame Africa freed these slave-magnets.

Docile lots.

RudzSA:
seems as if Nigeria sends its worst to nairaland ...it's amazing how little u no about the Europe of africa ..we NIC(newly industrialized country) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newly_industrialized_country ..generator country can't compete ..120 million of yo ppl are below poverty line .tell me ..wat are u ppl gud at ? Besides church ,419 ,pollution,wearing dresses ,running from Naija ,corruption ,blackouts ,no petrol ,being the least liked ppl in evry country(thou yo women r dark wit ass..I like ) ,bleaching ,hating South Africa nd Ghana etc

Nigeria is known for Nollywood , music, football, entrepreneurs, putting Africa on the economic global maps by its sheer economic size, democracy, we're the largest in Africa.
Nigeria is known for being the spiritual headquarters of Africa, we have the highest billionaires in Africa, we have the 2nd fastest growing millionaires in the world. We are KNOWN FOR LIBERATING SOUTH AFRICA FROM APARTHEID

South Africa is known for HIV, rape, xenophobia, inequality, murder, savagery and having the number 2 biggest slums in Africa.

Lastly, you don't know a thing about nic. Its a loose term that has not been accepted by the traditional economic analyst. ALL BRIC MEMBERS ARE STILL CLASSIFIED AS DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. Get a proper analysis.

vandalZA:
lolest DUMMY you should learn to make follow ups in eskom issue....the selling of stakes and unused properties was just a suggestion or a strategy to raise funds so those ideas are being turn down until the government decided to sell its vodacom shares to solve the problem....and you are free to google DUMMY!.....YES lOAD SHEDDING IS NO MORE!

if you sell stakes to private firms, it becomes theirs no matter the excuses. Your IQ is as high as that of a domestic monkey.

South Africa's power reliability is ranked 144th globally. Have you bought your candles yet?

ddami:
just wondering what position they will be if they had boko haram,,,



*Peeps*
*looks right, looks left*
*runs outta thread *

they will turn to man eaters and cave dwellers.

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Patchesagain:
Blah blah blah

1. South Africa is an NIC (nigeria is not)
2. South Africa is a member of the G20 and BRICS (nigeria is a member of exactly ZERO such organisations)
3. South Africa produces 100X more power than Nigeria
4. Your military has been in a state of decline for 16 years

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South Africa's g20 membership expired in April 2014. Your 2nd economic status and weak GDP makes your position in G20 ripe for a review.

Your BRiC membership is by China's invitation . you're still not a flag bearing member. Learn to use the word briquette. It is your own press that coined that term to reflect your BRIC status .

The NIC is just a term. It means nothing substantially. Besides south Africa is an underdeveloped country as under eloped can be.

With a population of 180 million. A GDP of 594 billion dollars. Having the largest concentration of billionaires in Africa. Having Africa's largest economy. 5th world contributor to the UN. Front runner state freeing south Africa from the shackles of slavery and apartheid. Who is boss, son?

Who's got Africa's back?


When I say Nigeria, you shout AFRICA

vandalZA:
lolest you don't know nothing about south Africa....let me teach you a bit about eskom all the SADC power stations are run by eskom and are south African own. eskom get electricity in namibia or mozambique using a business rule.....is like a shoprite farm in south Africa selling tomatoes to Nigerian shoprite retail....so don't be an idiot! And for more information eskom didn't borrow any money to stop the electricity problems the government sold some of its vodacom shares to a state own corporate called PIC Public Investment corporation which is 100% state own entity for R28billion-N476billion.......and for the record the load shedding is OVER..! DUMMY..!

QUESTION: Is south Africa importing power from Mozambique and Namibia? Yes.

Your government borrowed billions to help eskom , turned out to money down a courtesan's warm fistula .

Eskom have actually started selling off some of its stakes to private firms to even stay afloat.

Load shedding is over?

You're petty lier with a peacock's ego and a self esteem made of glass.

Patchesagain:
What are we doing?

We are moving UP

You are moving DOWN

122nd position as the worst place to live in the world is actually moving in a bottomless pool of shiit. It's like a treadmill.

122nd position is so underdeveloped as a country.

Patchesagain:
1. We produce 100X more power than you
2. We are an NIC - this is fact
3. Brazil has a population of 200 million, China over a billion, Russia 143 million, India over a billion. See the correlation?

The only slowpoke here is one who tries to argue against facts.

That's the reason they are better, bigger and more significant and powerful than south Africa. Stop making excuses. Accept that Providence made you a south african, that's all you'll ever be: AVERAGE.
By your GDP and demographics, you will never amount to much.

Let me paint the true picture for you:

* your economy is dying
* power is dying despite huge sums in repairs
* infrastructure , hospitals, education are dying
* crime and corruption are on the rise
* military is decaying

Nigeria's power generation has been on the steady rise having being privatised (what south Africa has been clamouring for eskom )

Our economy is moving fast leaving south africa behind as a tiny fleck of road-dirt on the track to economic superpower.

The city of khayelitsha still live with their very faeces in south Africa. FACT FACT FACT.

How pig headed and utterly hallucinating are you calling south Africa an industrialized country.

jln115:
Dude it doesnt matter we are better than you!! The one i got didn't count microstates and thus left out a whole lot of countries...We were actually ranked 133th out of 162 countries in 2009...So we are definitely getting better, Nigeria on the other hand has never dropped below 143rd since 2007

forget about Nigeria. We have been battling insurgency. Tell me what does a peaceful south Africa doing in the 122nd position?

Patchesagain:
Lol - when I say America i dont mean their domestic issues, I mean quantitative easing... get on my level

Stable growth is just fine and acceptable when you are a NIC... only developing countries can acheive double digit growth

Eskom issues are a hinderance on the economy no doubt about it. We are still the biggest power generator and consumer on the continent though

Namibia and Mozambique have been exporting power to you now. South Africa has borrowed over 85 billion rand to solve eskom woes but things are still falling apart.

If your GDP is a paltry 341 billion dollars and you claim to be an NIC, then south Africa is doomed. Your interrupted education would have been OK if you had run off to play rugby .

If you will only have stable growth like industrialized countries and you are still having a small GDP then south Africa is born to be very insignificant country. Brazil is the six world's biggest economy, China is 2nd Russia is 9th, India is 8th or so. These countries are all in the trillion dollar mark and are still outgrowing you.

You are a laughing 347 GDP and is bragging about growing growinf at the rate of NIC.

Patches, patches, how stupiid art thou.
South Africa is a textbook example of a 3rd world country.

patches689:
Hahahah... At 47 billion dollars they have to grow their GDP by just under 100% to catch us

Complex economies are hard to manage, our GDP stagnation at the moment has more to do with Greece, America, the after shocks of the platnum strikes and Eskom than the people or government of South Africa

Ethiopia grows 10% GDP at the moment. South Africa hardly even see 2% growth. America is doing fine in recovery- very fine.

Have you read CNN's analysis of Greece's economic woes? One of the factor is population. At 11 million analyst says Greece is going to need lots of help to survive.

South Africa bursted in 2008 till date. And the best it can hope for is just a stable growth. No more surprise indices or fast growth.

I though south Africa's power isn't bad and there is only blackout in 2 hours a day like you people said.

But you have suddenly admitted it bad enough to cripple your economy.

OK, keep going in circles

mzilakazi:
Do you know why BRIC and G20 need South Africa is because of our riches under our land. South Africa is no 1 in the world in terms of mineral wealth and reserves. Our reserves amount to over $6 trillion value of minerals has doubled over time. Our mines cannot be valued currently because of the political turmoil and strikes. Once everything subsides, look at South Africa overtaking Brazil, Russia and India in just few years. I don't want to speak about Nigeria because it is nothing before us. We will even surpass it even before we get our books right.

Young man, mineral reserves doesn't qualify countries into BRIC or G20. It doesn't.period.

What's this nonsense about getting your books right and surpassing those countries you mentioned. South Africa can never grow or see huge economic growth ever again. Same as Japan, UK, France, .etc. Your economy has little expansion available. countries which has huge double digit growth awaiting them are Brazil, Indonesia, Mexico, Nigeria, and to an extent China. You have been developing for the past 300 years and have reached the zenith. IT IS OVER.
Our economy will widen its gap over you as time goes by. Even as we speak, the rift is morphing into a gulf.
no country your size ever rise to become a giant economically or politically. Put your sentiment aside. The best south Africa can hope for is to be in the good books of Nigeria so that you can catch up with the hegemony train.