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ddami:
@henry 120, @Evan, @lezz I can't believe you guyz still have time for these S.a boys here.... You all are very very PATIENT.....

Babe, these guys are pure leisure to me. I don't take them seriously as they are not worth the effort of any intelligent researched response one bit.

I do not pretend to even debate military matters much with them, they accept nothing . and honestly they know they are on an ego trip down here.

I keep saying this, of the 54 Africans countries only Zulus and coloured blend of every slaving, itinerant race still stick around. I can debate military matters with Egyptians, Ethiopians and Algerians not south Africans.

mzilakazi:
Nope, we invented the v-hull to work against the impact of mines. The world was scared of mines until they saw South Africans using so cslled simple physics to overcome the impact of the blast.

the British mathematicians successfully disarm German mines under the water to allow cargo and war ship sail successfully during the 2nd world war.

It's encouraging seeing a Zulu like you trying to come off as intelligent

Henry120:
These South-Africans are downright delusional.

Embarrassingly so, bros.

jln115:
hahaha i can see your getting emotional!! But yes we are more developed than China and Russia, the IMF recognizes it ,the CIA recognizes it, the World Bank recognizes it ect ect maybe one day you "Dom Poese" will understand that bigger doesnt mean better.

Anyway when did Cuba, drc or Angola massacre our troops? In the Border war we lost +-1500 troops in 23 years, Cuba alone lost 10 000 troops not to mention the thousands of Angolan troops that were killed!

And we didnt try to manufacture Nuclear weapons, we actually manufactured 6 bombs!

give me a source which says south Africa is more industrialized than China. On your next post please.

jln115:
hahaha i can see your getting emotional!! But yes we are more developed than China and Russia, the IMF recognizes it ,the CIA recognizes it, the World Bank recognizes it ect ect maybe one day you "Dom Poese" will understand that bigger doesnt mean better.

Anyway when did Cuba, drc or Angola massacre our troops? In the Border war we lost +-1500 troops in 23 years, Cuba alone lost 10 000 troops not to mention the thousands of Angolan troops that were killed! Angola roasted your military, S.A was desperate to the point of considering nuclear.

Give me a source that south Africa is more industrialized than China, by infrastructure, technology and science. One next post. Failure to convincingly do so will earn you a free, express ticket to the synagogue for laying of hands and deliverance from acute buffoonery and stark ignorance.

And we didnt try to manufacture Nuclear weapons, we actually manufactured 6 bombs!

Israel was helping you in nuclear in the 80's. Period. America pulled the plugs. Fact.

patches689:
lezz has a zulu fixation

Remindes me of poor rednecks who hate jews because they are rich.

An obsession over a cultural identity you crave for yourself leads to bigotry.

Are Zulus rich? Zulus are a bunch of hateful subhumans who thinks being enslaved for so long by the Anglo-dutch has turned them into slave-kings.

patches689:
South Africa has been majority rule for 20 years now

How much have we built in 20 years?

In major war, the strength of your armaments industry decides who wins.

Zulu have built nothing in the last 22 years!! All giant firms, industry and the economy are still controlled by the Boers who cried to uk, US during the apartheid era for survival in the midst of hostile neighbours. The worse fate to befall any individual/country is to believe its own fantasy. Only few honest South African critics have said the truth : S.A is all hype and false PR. Ethiopia is even better than you militarily.
In a real war situation , your incompetent and HIV infected soldiers will take its toll. As would your fuel shortages and lack of skilled pilots. We also outnumber you 4 to 1. By 2040, we shall outnumber you 7 to 1. Zulu you are dead already.

jln115:
Your opinion means fokol...It wasn't i that classified South Africa as developed, it was the CIA, it was also not i that classified South Africa as a NIC it was the IMF... And yes we are more developed than India China and Russia.

One day if your dream comes true you'll visit South Africa and only then would you fully understand why we are classified as developed by the CIA or as a NIC by the IMF.

Oh , shut up. I have debated and floored you on this before. We know all about the term NIC, it's a loose term by some ideologist who wish to create s new term and economic class. It is an inclusive and persuasive term that most established, and traditional analyst don't even debate
.....and you're more advanced than China, Russia? . Both are traditional nuclear powers for decades and advance moon and space explorers; russia even pioneered space/moon expliration.
Both are advanced millitary countries with an intimidating economy. China is no 2 while russia is in the lower end of the top 10 economies of the world and a member of the G7 now terminated due to ukraine crisis.

South africas only attempt at nuclear in the 80's with Israeli help when Botha and co were scared shiit by an invasion from neighbours.

Your millitary is still poo poo massacred by angola, dcr, cuba and have no medal of honour whatsover.

Only a zulu will compare china,russia to south africa. South africa should not be put in the same sentence as russia and china.

Too much affiliation with zulus have turned you to something worse in ignorance than a zulu.

MduZA:
you know very well that your neighbors are the ones calling you flat..heads...in SA we don't know who is igbo or Yoruba,I personally learnt it here...you are all Kwerekweres

and you're all Zulus, a byword for inferiority complex, uncouthness , savagery, rape, HIV and murder.

The most backward group in all of Africa with giant pampers and feeding bottles strap around their necks of economic incompetence. A group who survives by government handouts, and white crumbs.

Africa's burden.

jln115:
NO!!! what i mean is we are classified as developed by the CIA, and NIC by the IMF, not only that, we are ranked 34 in infrastructure in the world.

developed? LMSAO. South Africa is a developing country in every single definition of the word. An advanced stock market doesn't make you a devoloped country. Are you an idiota?

When China, India, Russia etc aren't yet fully first world country, you're talking about a backwater south Africa.

Your problem is -and it's a national one - is a false sense of value, believing your own hype when the world is far above you.

jln115:
You do know we are more developed then you right? So how was it that not the Dutch or The Bantu people made South Africa better? Was it the Khoi San that propelled South Africas development?

most definitely not. Using guns and military to keep a people down and plundering their resources for money with the help of your racist friends in Europe and America , and building cities to accommodate so few while the rest toil in grand slums is definitely what you mean by development.

jln115:
Well fvck you must be right then!! After all you are a Nigerian and know every thing about South Africa.

you bet I am

jln115:
Well that's what it sounds like, All you Nigerians use the excuse that its because of White people that South Africa is ahead of Nigeria (in what ever that may be) thus implying that Whites are better than you !

nope, what we mean is that for the anglo-dutch Zulu and co will be just one step lesser than Burundi. And who says the anglo dutch made south Africa better; they were frightened thieves too desperate to develop even themselves.

jln115:
You dont see me using the phrase "Dom Poese" to describe Nigerians do you? even though the majority of your country are "Dom Poese"... You included.

I wouldn't care whatever term you use. I've long suspected you're pseudo-zulu by blood, affiliation and brain power.

jln115:
Zulus are only 20% of the populatAfricansA!

you want me to say Xhosa, Bantu, Tswana etc? That's unnecessarily tedious. Or you would rather I say black south Africans? It isn't sweet nor taste good in the tongue.

But Zulu.... I love the primitive bounce of that word whenever I say it . It's a perfect word that depicts the savagery and uncouthness of the average Zulu.

I have elected it as the collective term for the entire black south africans. ( I have explained this to you some time before) after all, they are the most populated black ethnic group in S.A
It's a befitting tittle.

MduZA:
friendly advice:if you have got a tendency of using ethnicity to convey your message,dont play that game with me...am neither igbo nor Yoruba...the entire comment of yours clearly shows that you live in the imaginary world therefore its unnecessary to counter your wishful fantasies

so nice to see a Zulu lamenting on tribal/ethnic slur . What happened to flat Igbo head, isn't it fashionable anymore? I just gave you hard facts mixed with ethnic flavour and you go all girly on me like a fággy fàggót

Resolved: white females have more millionaires than Zulus in South Africa;

Zulus are 90 % of the population yet amount to less than 16% of total millionaires in S.A

Zulus can't only boast of one billlionaire on earth

Feel free to submit a contrary view, Zulu.

MduZA:
Nigerian mentality of believing that its only them entitled for great things...when they realized that their counterparts in other countries are doing much better,they show their frustration by throwing insults everywhere..in this instance,nairaland forum is a good example

Wrong! You just gave a classic example of south Africans. After all, you guys are the rookies on the block with a 0 knowledge of how Africa works. Zulus are in no way comparable to Nigerians in any department. You haven't proved anything in 21 years

MduZA:
south African millionaires and billionaires don't go around naked to show their wealth...

nice point. Only problem is it doesn't apply: Zulus don't have enough to go näked about.

ddami:
he actually typed "Your Shopping Malls are owned by South Africans"" and I just knew he has not been to Nigeria before... . 'cos SHOPRITE only RENTS a space in a mall competing with over 20 different stores in that same Mall...

He thinks Nigerians use ONLY MTN, DSTV,SHoprite...

He typed ""The only thing we can boast of is CEMENT"" and am like OKAY, THAT'S IT, AM DONE.

Trust the Soweto resident to embarrass himself.

MduZA:
tell me one thing that Nigerians own,even your oil is still under control of the British,your shopping malls are owned by south Africans....the only thing that you can boost of is cement....Eko Atlantic belongs to the Europeans,those Nigerian names are just mirrors

what oil is owned by the British? You mean shell? It's the royal dutch company and it operates in Nigeria in same condition as it operates in the US- under licence.

The shopping mall are all DFI as our middle class is growing faster and your government is arm twisting these giant malls to employ half literate Zulus like you. Nigeria is only a breath of fresh air to them.

Your moniker is a typical Zulu style; ugly-sounding and unimaginative

As female Whites have even out number Zulus in millionaire rankings in south Africa, so is a young Nigerian Lady @ddami schooling you here with facts.

jln115:
Actually Whites make uptg% of the millioners in South Africa, the rest are coloured, Indian and Black.

And I ask you this question again: Do you expect the Government to throw Whites out of the economy entirely?"

Demographics HNWIs 2007* HNWIs 2013* Growth 2007-2013
White Male 35,000 36,500 4%
Previously Disadvantaged 4,300 7,800 81%
White Female 3,500 4,400 26%
Total.

My source tells me Zulu and coloured have only 16% and it's indeed shocking if one is to narrow the demographics to only Zulus without including Indians etc.

To your question; it really shouldn't arise. European settlers built and laid the foundation of south Africa. Zulus on the other hand have a false sense of entitlement; a feeling of being owed by the government. They remember the apartheid era with nostalgia while expecting free meals, housing and unqualified positions in top firms.

How would Julius malemo have such a large following within the zulu circles with his anti white rhetorics?

jln115:
Dude! There's no denying that the majority of whites are better of, BUT more and more previously disadvantaged people are becoming millioners every year... In fact from 2013 to 2014 there was a 90% increase of black millioners in SA.

Also the black middle class grows every year exponentially.

What do you expect the government to do, throw whites out of the economy all together?... I mean look how well it turned out for Zimbabwe.

Of all the millionaires in South Africa Zulus+coloured only have 16% despite being 90% of the population.

MduZA:
Nigerians own nothing..Europeans are using your land to build projects like eko Atlantic while you people glue on each other like termites in Mokoko....you can scream on top of your voice about owning the economy but the true reflection on the ground is different...people investing in your country are the ones owning your economy,figure out who they are

Eko Atlantic city is a tinubu/ fashola project with foreign investment partnership. Every last molecule of you are made of mediocrity morphing into a brainless Zulu.

Zulu owns nothing, does nothing and means nothing. You have only one billionaire on earth despite being 90% of the population.

Zulus are a reference point on inequality.

mzilakazi:
LEZZ you are the biggest fool I have ever met on nairaland. Should there be that award I will nominate you right away.

no one has dealt you a nastier punch in your entire Nairaland sojourn but lezz. I have outclassed you in all logical debate and out-troll you as well.

You're a typical Zulu devoid of logical argument

patches689:
Hahahahahaha

Maybe in 20 years with intensive investment in your military

But as it stands you have a massive backlog to catch up

Ffs - the state of your armor is pig disgusting, a plethorale and obsolete sustems

No major training exercises, limited systems integration etc etc

And lets not even talk about the massive ammount of capacity you need to develop in order to simply operate a submarine...

You are looking at a money pit that is going to take more than a once off $2 billion dollar investment to full

Come back when you have spent an exta $10 billion ontop of your standard budget

Are you scared already? Your Navy has only 30 grade points in Africa, submarines your Zulu ass!!!

Despite your high military budget of about 4 billion dollars at a relatively peaceful era, facing no external enemy, your military is still trailing and keeps failing. As south Africa sinks high in national debt to prove what she's not, incompetence, quota system render the sandf ineffective.

Resolved: Zulus don't have the mental powers to fly advanced aircraft or run a submarine

EVarn:
French government?
Black Jesus!,i've really lost touch with military affairs around the globe these past few months,which i intend to correct.
Innoson will be producing tanks?,surely they need to partner with a country that has a strong military complex.I dont think Innoson alone has the expertise required to produce or even design tanks,unless they somehow managed to steal blueprints from Russia.

yes, the French government has tipped Nigeria to lead Africa militarily owing to boko haram challenge. Innoson is would be partnering with India or Russia, not sure which exactly.

MduZA:
you are one of my favorite members of this forum...due to the fact that you indirectly tell the state affairs of your country and its history projecting them on SA...

Nigerians own their land, run their economy, and has the highest middle class in Africa.

South Africa on the other hand has its economy run by the 7% European settlers, have their lands own by whites and is one of the most unequal countries in the world.

I project the realities of your country to you by echoing your Julius Mal emo, former ANC youth leader.

jln115:
Uhm you do realize that there are poor whites to? Being poor isnt a matter of race dude!

relatively so. Zulus are disproportionately represented at the lower economic stratum; only 15% of Zulus are relatively OK , while whites make up 85%. Talk about neo-apartheid

jln115:
OK so I'm guessing you don't understand sarcasm after all! Shocker!

Anyway all South Africans enjoy the same liberties.

economic? Your sarcasm is understood but unfortunately they are also literally representative of honest facts: I played on that.

jln115:
Cool, That's why you understood my post so perfectly.

my understsnding is that you took great time to proof you're not a Zulu, that says a lot. And you've unwittingly acknowledged that Zulus still don't enjoy full liberty as do whites in South Africa

jln115:
And how is that applicable to South Africans? They were always paid for their Labour.

being paid what? Their lands and resources are taken and they are played what?

jln115:
Uhm...No!! Slavery is defined as a person being owned by another person... As part of his/her property.. Slavery is one thing South Africans have never experienced.

yeah, slavery is also a condition of servitude