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[quote author=RoyalPearl post=33859952][/quote]if you can singularize the "us" you will be nearer home. |
JiggamanGh:In the last BBC excerpt i sent you, the British correspondent was AMAZED Nigerians source their own power independently and still grow the economy at 6 to 7%. What will happen when there is just 50 or 60% power support from the government? yeah, your guess is as sure as mine: DOUBLE DIGIT GROWTH. And now Ghana, Africa's best country and most respected sovereignty in africa: you have produced gold long before oil was discovered in Nigeria. YOU had a 2 year head start than Nigeria. YOU have a tiny, manageable population roughly the size of lagos You boasted to have enjoyed stable electricity for a long time........... AND YET GHANA IS STILL A MEAGER $50 BILLION GDP YOU STILL RUN TO IMF FOR SURVIVAL WAR RAVAGED SUDAN AND LIBYA HAVE A BETTET ECONOMIC RATING THAN YOU DO THERE IS NO ONE BILLIONAIRE IN GHANA THERE IS NO GHANAIAN COMPANY COMPETITIVE IN AFRICA. LAGOS IS SAME ECONOMIC PARITY WITH GHANA. it is shame on you. |
Dragonking:lol, do not worry. i don't easily part company with Nkurumah's boys. they are very angry with me at the moment for giving then pure, nakedd facts. hope your ban wears out soon. |
iamord:iamord, there has been a lot of lows in the course of debates on this thread, but nothing as low and as cheap as unwarranted parental jibes and jeers. this is a record low and a disturbing indication of something dark, lurking deep within you. here is an anonymous internet forum and hiding behind your keyboard and screen you could be Kofi Annan's cousin or Dangote's neighbour. and it's OK with me. What isn't OK is having an emotional diarrhea and anger leakages in the course a debate and descending to parental confrontations. please, do not tell me i have been conversing with a preadolescent lucky enough to own a mobile phone with an internet connection. i hope i am wrong. |
JiggamanGh:ENVY ENVY ENVY!!! MINT is not by population. it is by economic size and growth. here read up : In 2001 the world began talking about the Bric countries - Brazil, Russia, India and China - as potential powerhouses of the world economy. The term was coined by economist Jim O'Neill, who has now identified the "Mint" countries - Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey - as emerging economic giants. Here he explains why. So what is it about the so-called Mint countries that makes them so special? Why these four countries? A friend who has followed the Bric story noted sardonically that they are probably "fresher" than the Brics. What they really share beyond having a lot of people, is that at least for the next 20 years, they have really good "inner" demographics - they are all going to see a rise in the number of people eligible to work relative to those not working. This is the envy of many developed countries but also two of the Bric countries, China and Russia. So, if Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey get their act together, some of them could match Chinese-style double-digit rates between 2003 and 2008. Something else three of them share, which Mexican Foreign Minister Jose Antonio Meade Kuribrena pointed out to me, is that they all have geographical positions that should be an advantage as patterns of world trade change. For example, Mexico is next door to the US, but also Latin America. Indonesia is in the heart of South-east Asia but also has deep connections with China. And as we all know, Turkey is in both the West and East. Nigeria is not really similar in this regard for now, partly because of Africa's lack of development, but it could be in the future if African countries stop fighting and trade with each other. This might in fact be the basis for the Mint countries developing their own economic-political club just as the Bric countries did - one of the biggest surprises of the whole Bric thing for me. I can smell the possibility of a Mint club already. What I also realised after talking to Meade Kuribrena, is that the creation of the Mint acronym could spur pressure for Nigeria to become a member of the G20, as the other Mints already are. This was something the charismatic Nigerian finance minister, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala was keen to talk about: "We know our time will come," she said. "We think they are missing something by not having us." Meade Kuribrena went so far as to suggest that, as a group of four countries, the Mints have more in common than the Brics. I am not sure about that, but it is an interesting idea. Economically three of them - Mexico, Indonesia and Nigeria - are commodity producers and only Turkey isn't. This contrasts with the Bric countries where two - Brazil and Russia - are commodity producers and the other two - China and India - aren't. In terms of wealth, Mexico and Turkey are at about the same level, earning annually about $10,000 (£6,100) per head. This compares with $3,500 (£2,100) per head in Indonesia and $1,500 (£900) per head in Nigeria, which is on a par with India. They are a bit behind Russia - $14,000 (£8,500) per head - and Brazil on $11,300 (£6,800), but still a bit ahead of China - $6,000 (£3,600). A big question that guided my thinking on visits to these countries for the BBC was - "How do these countries actually feel on the ground, compared to my own expectations and the general consensus of opinion?" When expectations are low - as one might generally say about Nigeria for example (although not in recent years among specialist investors in Africa) - it is easier to be positively surprised. But the opposite is also true - and this could be a problem for Mexico, which financial investors are really quite excited about. Mexico owes much of its rising wealth to the oil which it sits on, especially offshore oil I returned from my travels thinking it won't be so difficult for Nigeria and Turkey to positively surprise people, as many put far too much weight on the negative issues that are well-known - crime and corruption in Nigeria, for example, or heavy- handed government in Turkey. Indonesia, I am less sure about. The country's challenges are as big as I thought and I didn't hear too many things that made me go "Wow" in terms of trying to deal with them. The country needs more of a sense of commercial purpose beyond commodities, and has to improve its infrastructure. In Turkey, visits to white goods manufacturer Beko and Turkish Airlines, the world's fastest growing airline, definitely made me go "Wow", and in Nigeria, I was saying it all the time. Turkish Airlines: The world's fastest-growing airline The creativity in that place is so easy to get enthused about, at least it was for me, and I returned full of excitement about different personal investments I might follow up on. In Mexico I was all set to be disappointed, as expectations are so high, but the young president and his equally young colleagues are full of determination to change the place. If you thought Maggie Thatcher stood for serious reforms, these guys make her seem like a kitten. They are reforming everything from education, energy and fiscal policy to the institution of government itself. What about all the challenges and things that usually scare people? Well corruption is obviously one topic that all four would seem to share, and I had many interesting discussions about it in each country. In Nigeria, Central Bank Governor Lamido Sanusi argued that corruption rarely prevents economic development - and that the growth of the economy, accompanied by improvements in education, will lead to better governance and greater transparency. Such views are important to listen to, as an alternative to our often simplistic Western way of thinking. For many credible people in the Mint countries, corruption is a consequence of their weak past, not a cause of a weak future, and certainly not the number one challenge. It falls way down a list compared with the costs of energy and the breadth of its availability and, of course, infrastructure. Generators are much in demand in Lagos Sorting out energy policy was seen in both Mexico and Nigeria as a top priority and each country has launched a major initiatives this year, which if implemented, will accelerate growth rates significantly. Here is an amazing statistic. About 170 million people in Nigeria share about the same amount of power that is used by about 1.5 million people in the UK. Almost every business has to generate its own power. The costs are enormous. "Can you imagine, can you believe, that this country has been growing at 7% with no power, with zero power? It's a joke." says Africa's richest man, Aliko Dangote. He's right. I reckon Nigeria could grow at 10-12% by sorting out this problem alone. That would double the size of its economy in six or seven years. In Indonesia, the fourth largest country in the world, I would say leadership and infrastructure are the major challenges, though there are many more too. But challenges and opportunities sit side by side. In one of Jakarta's slum areas, Pluit, the land is sinking by 20cm per year because of over- extraction of water, but property prices elsewhere in the city are rocketing. I talked to a man building the country's first Ikea store, who reckons a third of greater Jakarta's population of 28 million (the third biggest conurbation in the world) would have sufficient disposable income to shop at his store. As he said: "We just know it's going to work." In Turkey of course, its politics and the combination of a Muslim faith with some kind of desire to do things the Western way is a unique sort of challenge. Some might argue the same challenge exists for Indonesia but I returned thinking this was not the case. In Jakarta at least, the Western way of doing things seems to be generally accepted - in striking contrast with Turkey. So can the Mints join the top 10 largest economies in the world, after the US, China, the rest of the Brics and maybe Japan? I think so, though it may take 30 years. I look forward to going back to each of them more regularly now I am helping to put them on the map, just as happened with the Bric countries 12 years ago. Listen to the first episode of MINT: The Next Economic Giants on BBC Radio 4 on Monday 6 January from 09:00 GMT, or afterwards on iPlayer. Follow @BBCNewsMagazine on Twitter and on |
ddami:never take such links seriously. what iamord and co lack is simple basic education. china is 1 billion plus so she always have her fair share of poor people as well as rich people . same way USA is 300 million and has moor poor people than Norway !!! now US is not only infinitely greater than Norway but is home to the world's greatest billionaires by number. Nigeria is home to africa's number of billionaires and millionaires, she also have fair number of poor people as well. it is the reason Nigeria is Africa's top direct investment destination centre and Africa's top candidate for permanent seat at the UN security council. we are Ghana's boss. Kofi, their illustrious son cannot be wrong. |
ddami:LOL. i never knew you could be this lethal. nice surprise though. |
JiggamanGh:your case is hopeless. heaven knows i have tried pointing you to the light. MINT is an indication the countries in question are progressing to the next level. they are not at par with Norway, sweden but have shown signs of great progress. hence Nigeria and Indonesia are first and second in producing the highest number of millionaires. Nigeria's GDP is no joke on paper. 5 years ago, there were no Nigerian firms in ghana. but today we have OandO, Dangote, zenith, GTB, ECO, GLO investing in ghana's economy. nope we ain't hungry!!! we are a monstrous $594 billion dollar GDP and when you have that kind of behemoth as your neighbour, YOU ARE BOUND TO FEEL VERY SMALL. |
iamord:i will translate that to slaughtering you and chopping you to size. you are either countering my assertions with facts or you spare us your emotions and opinions ; they mean little here. |
PunkyOh:your profile came out dry. and the giant stuff isn't a myth. let me give you a long excerpt to digest. it's a BBC poll conducted on Nigeria leadership potential and role in Africa in a honest, unbiased way. Here is the reaction from South Africa when the BBC correspondent ask the question on Nigeria leading Africa: No, is the view from Johannesburg. Economically, Nigeria's newly inflated gross domestic product (GDP) means very little here. We know that these are just re-arranged numbers on some bureaucrat's spreadsheet, and that our economy is still more diversified, sustainable and ultimately attractive to investors. Our real concern is political. Nigeria and South Africa are locked in a fierce tussle over who will be the African superpower, and Nigeria has just robbed us of our most potent advantage. South Africa's pre-eminence in continental affairs, and its membership of institutions such as the G20 and Brics , as well as a potential permanent seat on the UN Security Council, rests on its claim to be Africa's largest economy. That title now belongs to Nigeria, which is also Africa's most populous country. So, who should be represented on these bodies? South Africa's concerns are compounded by fears, expressed privately by government officials and diplomats, that chaotic, corruption-prone Nigeria is unfit to assume the mantle of continental leadership. Most South Africans would tend to agree: The perception persists of Nigerians as drug dealers and 419 scammers, making it hard for Nigeria to be taken seriously here. The migrants doing business in SA townships South Africa facts and figures Simon Allison is Africa correspondent of South Africa's Daily Maverick newspaper |
iamord:lol, I SELDOM FALL SHORT. NEVER!!! are you disputing it or needing proof ? Speak up or hold your emotions in check. |
PunkyOh:Really? no wonder you have been so aggressive!! you have a subtle Nigerian flare though, in word usage. i can make you forget all about politics and Nigerian-south african fever. why waste all your energy there when i can put it to better use. let me see if you have a profile picture. |
PunkyOh:Of course you don't want them; once you catch the naija fever,it becomes a one way traffic. everyone else seem dead. there's no way Nigeria will cease mentioning S.A , neither will S.A quit mentioning Nigeria. we have come to part no more. 1994 WAS WHEN THE DIE WAS CAST. |
achimotan:My stating that NIGERIA IS THE ONLY AFRICAN IN NASA was an oversight . what i meant is that NIGERIA WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN IN THE NASA 9 MEMBER BOARD CHARGED BY NASA TO LEAD ITS AEROSPACE SAFTY PANEL |
JiggamanGh:you really don't know much. MINT is the acronym for the newest 4 countries emerging as economic powers namely Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and turkey. two years ago, it was BRICs namely Brazil, Russia, India and China. We didn't ascribe it to ourselves, the world did. the 60% is your own way of easing your hurt and envy. Nigeria has a bigger and larger middle class than ghana. as well our upper class is also miles ahead. when it comes to countries, you do not compare ghana to nigeria. you belong to the medium class. go ask Mr Annan. |
mzilakazi:Take this; i never thought inferiority will eat some one to this level : You are either playing D.U.M.B or are one of those naïve type Black South Africans who works for Tiger brands and spends his weekends working out at the Virgin Active gym on William Nicol drive or maybe you are hidden away in one of those suburbs in Midrand or Pretoria east. It is well known that for years Nigerians(specifically my flashy Igbo brothers) used to send Taxis to the Townships on weekends to pickup your girls and take them on shopping sprees, When the girls return and begin to lament about how their "Nigerian boyfriends" take care of them compared to their South African men who usually get them pregnant and disown the child, the men do not take these sentiments lightly. Johanesburgs CBD has a lot of loitering jobless men from Alexandria, Diepsloot and other so called "slums". They also envy a lot of the Nigerians who are able to set up mechanic shops, restuarants, food shops and clubs in and around CBD, Yeoville and the likes. They are the only "Africans" that I have observed who chastise and look down upon their women for dating and marrying other black African men. It is so bad that South African women married to Nigerian men had to form an organization just to protect themselves from discrimination from their own. UNITED NIGERIAN WIVES OF SOUTH AFRICA Please let us be real here. Your people have a problem they need to face. PS please view the video attachment earlier and listen to your former first ladies comments... starting form 58: mins or simply gloss through comments on this facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/United-nigerian- wives-in-south-africa/496395100396563 that was from a Nigerian leavinf in s.a lol |
JiggamanGh:Nigeria and Indonesia are in the MINT countries. ghana is isn't in the 8 African list and is IMF dependant what respect are you talking about? |
iamord:the only things positive is that Nigerians don't wait for their government. thats why we are ahead and with generators we have produced billionaires, nollywood and Africa's largest economy. s.a and ghana have active docile citizens always supet relying on their government to put them in their nests and drop half-chewed droppings on their open mouths. |
ddami:lol, she likes quoting me everytime. but she is just acting up to impress her male compatriots . i think she is really soft underneath. |
iamord:so you reside in nigeria? heheheheh. you got banned because i backed my assertion with a source. wow. well the link says we dominate your real estate with 50%, what's there to get angry about? stop being angry like a kid whose candy was taken away, please. here is a hash reality for REAL. Every neighbour of Nigeria must adjust to the harsh reality of dominance of Nigeria in west africa. we are a 170+ highly mobile and entrepreneurial lots so it is inevitable that will must spill into you, both the good and the bad. WE SHALL CHINA YOU. Better get used to it and save yourselt the heartache and emotional trauma. |
PunkyOh:lol, i thought you are one sweet big butty s.a sugar. lolz. ok we are relying on religion yet S.A are dragging the line with us on who will see T.B joshua first. your brothers are xenophobic savages too lazy to work and too soft to take responsibilities. 45% unemployment for Zulu and co. your Nigerian boy friend did a poor job on you. you shouldn't believe everything your press say. i was thinking about arranging candle lights and dinner as a bait to spreading your fat round ass and you are spoiling it all with politics talk. |
JiggamanGh:each one of this countries has international clout, prestige, influence, power and national achievement than ghana will ever achieve until this earth ceases to exist . other than your love for your country which i admire in you, you are a category A international relations illiterate big time. let me show you how: INDIA is the 10th biggest economic power in the whole fvcking world. it is home to Range Rover brand (yeah, bought it from Great Britain) she is also an IT giant with collosal microsoft and Nokia presence. she is also home to TATA. INDONESIA is in the MINT region and she is currently producing more millionares than any other country presently. yes that includes US, germany france et al NIGERIA IS YOUR REGIONAL HEGEMONE, running more than 70% of ecowas funding, producing the 2nd fastest millionare in the world. she is also in the MINT and Africa's economic super power with $594 billion dollars. United States Of America has got more poor people than does Sweden. never you put India, Nigeria and Indonesia in one sentence with Ghana. i might ask the MOD to ban you for breaking the hierarchy rule. lol. |
PunkyOh:show some love Lady. i was giving your countenance a tougher exterior than it deserves. S.A is decaying by the day- each day of black rule my love, it is a well ESTABLISHED fact. as we type this your unemployment rate is on an all time high. your infrastructure is failing BIG TIME government institutions are neglected and malfunctioning from health to education to the military. security is bad worse worst economy is struggling- Desmond Tutu cried out : we never had it this bad in apartheid. the economic divide between the over 75 percent blacks and 5% white is ever widening. with Patrice Motsepe the only black S.A billionaire against 6 of European extraction. as Blacks move into Jo burg main town whites scurry in fear of savagery into Sandton. we are part of the apartheid struggle and besides S.A officially asked for professionals after 1994. fact fact fact |
Obrafour:this very thread is giving Ghana better publicity than anything else. this is a country which war torn Libya and Sudan have a bigger economy than. |
iamord:lolzzzzzz. good things you aren't contesting my assertion that Nigerians dominate ghana's real estate. i wouldn't really know if they pay but i know there's heavy load shedding in S.A as we speak with candles everywhere. |
mzilakazi:MINT = Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey the next economic emerging powers. it was coined by O'Neil who also coined BRICs which include Brasil, Russia, India and China. go and read up and stop being a butt hurt. Nigeria launches Africa's first communication satellite: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NigComSat-1 Nigeria launches first satellite built by Africans: m.scidev.net/global/earth-science/news/nigeria-launches-first-satellite-built-by-africans.html |
JiggamanGh:Nope, my drowning co-debater. the anglo-dutch of holland, german and french and few english settlers are european who call themselves Afrikaans and settled in S.A as home away from home. so when a Zulu southie comes here to talk, we ask what has your people and ancestors done and achieved. you do not count the achievement of Europeans to us. |
JiggamanGh:lolzzzzzzz. this all the proof i need to know you have lost the debate. you claimed Niger republic supply us gas and when asked to show yourself worthy you turned into a true ghanaian. you claim ghana's military was saving africa. now show me one multi national campaign Ghana led and you fled. ok show me what ghana contributed or sacrificed for africa and you like a true teenager turned around to ask me for proof lol. what a sore loser. the days of factless and illiterate trailing in NL are gone for good. thou hath been whooped!!! |
MduZA:which Eko are you talking about. do not blab like a sulking baby. if you are ignorant about who liberated you , the world isn't. now go read this up en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria–South_Africa_relations ignorant lier!!! |
MduZA:now this is what i do not like : unclad ignorance. no black south African company is in Nigeria. so save us your crap about coming here to invest. if the dutch built everything in south africa -which is true by the way- then you should logout of here for we are not mates. Nigeria has built Africa's biggest economy. has launched africa's first satellite in orbit. the only african in nasa the only african country in MINT built Africa's biggest movie industry (3rd in the world) africas music headquarters. only black African to win the miss world owns the richest black person in the world richest blogger in Africa spiritual headquarters of africa the synagogue has grown into a pilgrimage status with south africans, ghanaians et al, queuing up all day. my fingers hurt already. mind, we started development only 55 years ago by 1960. south Africa has been developing for over 300 years as home-away-from home by the Europeans. and after just 24 years of Zulu rule, everything is falling apart. |
MduZA:are you really that daft you don't know how one squats on the internet? |
JiggamanGh:when a Ghanaian takes to posting pictures as a last resort know that the desperation notch is getting higher. please America often LEAD in alliance with france, UK, Australia etc. it is still an american LED military campaign. are you deficient in deductive and inductive reasoning ? cannot your Ghanaian education bail you out ? i have asked you repeatedly 1) show us where ghana led a military campaign in het entire history 2) show me where Nigeria import gas from niger 3) show us any internationally acclaimed scholar ghana's education has produced 4) what has Ghana done/sacrificed for africa ? 5) what had your educational system and mathematicians done to liberate you economically? your GDP is still a laughing $30billion your government waits on IMF donating money before your yearly national budget is read. Nigeria is still minting your currency for you. 6) why is there not ONE billionaire in all of ghana. give me answers or shut your mouth up. i have been waiting. won't post roundabout posts. either shut up or provide answers. |
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