₦airaland Forum

Ihuomadinihu:
That is an inappropriate pronouciation and spelling of Igbo. It is an insult to call an igbo person 'ibo'. Same thing with calling a Hausa person Awusa.
Ibo is not in use officially or otherwise. Any person that uses ibo is ignorant of facts.
Ibo is not a modern version of Igbo,biko! Europeans were saying ibo cos they had no knowlegde of Igbo alphabeths and phonetics. What would you adopt? What Europeans say or how natives define themselves. You are just so ignorant!
Stop quoting me if you can't take a simple correction.

Ihuomadinihu:
Haha! Am telling you that certain Igbo communities give female children their father's property. You can ask questions,it is still in practice.
Ibo was a variant form because non Igbo pronounced it as ''ibo''
True igbo people have never called themselves ibos. White men pronounced it as ibo because they had no /gb/ alphabet in their phonetics.
Awka,Enugu still sound like Oka and Enugwu when you pronounce it. But ibo and Igbo don't have the same pronounciation and we are not ibo. Take corrections,pls!

Ihuomadinihu:
Ask him to explain what he is trying to say.
No point arguing with you cos your mind is already made up that women should be punishment and oppressed by men.

Ihuomadinihu:
Ibo and Igbo are not interchangable in 2015. You have a problem accepting corrections from a woman? Single ladies are in trouble! Igbo is too large for you to generalize igbo culture. There are people that lease their property to their sons and others give their properties to their Female children. It is still happening today!
You are basing your history on post colonial igbo culture.
There are male and female 'cult',both genders respect their boundaries.
Do you know the things men are not allowed to do in my place? Do you know what they have been prohibited from doing? See it's a two way thing.

Wedon:
I was in a meeting yesterday and learnt that Igbo women had a 'hole' (room), where they were taken into and flogged if they dare speak when not spoken to.

I don't want to get into your argument ooh. Just saying . . .

Ihuomadinihu:
You truly have a distorted understanding of male headship in marriage. Pls go on and support brutalization of women in the name of testing and marriage. You are not just inferring,you simply take everything out of context. No other words for you.
To every other women out there:just in case you marry a psychopath who believes in submission under every circumstance. Pls don't even react,keep submitting till he crushes you!

Stillfire:
Uhmm no. The fact that you even write Ibo instead of Igbo make me know you really do not understand you have not briefed yourself on precolonial Igbo culture.
The Igbo ran a dual sex political system.
The women headed by their chosen female leader attended to women affairs, and the men headed by their chosen male leader attended to male affairs.
Both ran their organizations independently of each other but could not carry out intricate and serious decisions like war without consulting the other.
The same way a woman could not attend a male meeting is the same way a man could not attend female meetings and his jurisdiction stops at the doorpost of his umunna meeting. Women used boycotts when their demands were not met and recalcitrant husband were always brought to book. The fast and pray entity (which we encourage women only to do I have to add) we operate now when a man misbehaves is as a result of Christianity introduced by the British.
It is the British who destroyed this political system and elevated only the male political structures because they were bounded by their own Victorian prejudices and the men ran along with it.

patches689:
How about some citations to back that up?

All freedom fighters intergrated into the SADF were retrained from scratch by members fo the former SADF

MikeCZAR:
Why were they besieged?

The SANDF was formed in 1994.

SADF conscripts were teenagers average age being 17-22.

You're like Evarns!

Ihuomadinihu:
Figuratively,you talk with two sides of your mouth. Why should i seek for your views,when the little you have written here defines how you see submission in marriage. I repeat, 'submission is not a child like obedience which lacks responsibility for one's actions''. This is situated in the context of a man intimidating a woman to obey his presence in a union. Every other thing you are saying here is just a matter of inference. I don't mind if you think am being an online bully,this still depicts how you view women that speak up when you would rather they ''shut up''.

Ihuomadinihu:
Lol,what hurts? Your inability to see that women should not be manipulated by mere laws to stick to a foolish man is what is hurting both of you.

MikeCZAR:
Come! Let's go into detail.

nairalife2013:
"force my choices" thatz not what u believe in na. My choice of companionship is in my making. Not yours. If marriage is an institution and I bring a lady into the preliminary chambers and state my likes and dislikes and inform her going against those tenets would certainly bring me and the institution to our knees and she is adamant on executing her own destructive terms and desires, isnt that a wrong woman worth sending to the cleaners to learn the ways. Am living my life cool now cause I took time to sieve thro the park. I live with my wife with a high sense of equality because she respects and adore me with uncommon love only a few women can lay claims to. U sound like a lady of advanced age whose life has seen some rough days with men and is bent on keeping it so due to pride and overzealous desires for what cannot me. Following a man up and down to keep a ridiculous ideal afloat when u are supposed to cuddle in yur man's arms at this time of the nite is a pointer to the kind of life u lead. Others with worthwhile responsibilit ies have scampered cause thier chubbies are back and need thier time but u, with all u claim u are worth, are still bent on having a tko on me. My confi sect will do d rest while am at work moro. Perhaps u could learn a thing from her own feminine words.

Ihuomadinihu:
What have you written that makes sense here? Submission is not foolishness. Stop twisting the bible cos it never said women should submit to an intimidating husband.

I only pointed out Abigail's virtues which so many a modern woman lacks. It is a pure account of the recorded gospel. you are the one guilty of misrepresentation of biblical facts when you alluded David was already king when he met Abigail and that Abigail left her husband.

You are one of those men that will lead a woman to hellfire in the name of submission. That definition of submission should never exist in the world.

could point me to where i defined submitssion directly or implicitly?

As for being igbo. Igbo cultire is not practically ran by men. Women in the past stood up against foolish submission and stupidity from men. There were numerous women groups that were in place to discipline men that maltreated their wives

Ibo community has always have female deities , like ancient Greece and Rome. It doesn't change the fact that ibo cimmunities are ran by men. women do not partake in age grade meetings or umunna gatherings where serious decisions are taken. neither are they part of the igwe's council. you can point me to an ibo community that has a different socio-economic settings

Women even took up titles seperate from their husband's identity. Women were bread winners,great merchants and community heads. If you are a ''true igbo'' person,who should know that your ancestors never belittled women.

it is my belief ibo women are the most pampered in nigeria. and women in nigerian communities are never belittled, except maybe those who have lost their feminine grace

Women were adored and never intimidated. 'Ala' was/is an Igbo female goddess,a central authority in Igboland. Nobody broke or underestimidated her laws. Breaking her laws attracted serious punishment. Men never intimidated their wives,the least the can do is to inform her parents or the village elders.
As for property,all igbo societies are not patriarchal. There are societies that surrender their properties to their daughters instead of the sons,cos the believe and know that Nwanyi bu ife! There are places were a woman will take titles and sit in place of their fathers. Don't assume that Igbo societies are the same,they are very diverse.
Most of these nonesense against women began during and after colonialism.
According to history in old Igboland,the day you lift you fingers against your wife that will be the end of the marriage. The wife's people are free to do anything to you not to talk of when you intimidate her into submission. There is a community that i know,according to history,no man maltreats her girls in the past. Cos she will come home,take your children and remarry immediately.
All these nonsense started with colonialism cos the whiteman says women should be seen not heard.
That's pure nonesense. Go and ask people how women operated in ancient igbo cultures.

MikeCZAR:
Sour grapes!

How's your Epe rocket coming along?


Sudan is surpassing Nigeria in military innovation and tech.

Henry120:
Lezz forget about that overzealous wan.ker.

i never disputed what his name meant neither did i say he was a nice person.

Abigail was loyal to her husband to the very last. when she came to plead with David, she would have asked David to spare her and get raid of the husband. nope she came solely to plead unbehalf of her husband.

whoever[ said it was?/quote]It's appaling that a 21st century man thinks like this. Even before the coming of the white man,women had enough respect and right like men.

osystein:
I was enjoying the military discussion, but somebody had to derail.

Ihuomadinihu:
This is just a sermon! The summary was that Abigali was able to detect her husband's messy character period! Speaking out and exercising her rights saved her life. People especially men tend to revise the Bible to suit their ego. .

Ihuomadinihu:
Yes! But what happened before that? Abigali was strong and wise enough to recognise and speak about her husband's bad character. We are talking about a loser that insulted the King of Isreal. If it was on this thread,that dolly wouldn't even speak out not to talk of going after David cos she will be spanked and battered.

Ihuomadinihu:
Bible? Am yet to read that Adam,Abraham,David,Solomon, Joseph and Jacob subdued and dominated a woman for respect. You probably have to read your bible again. All these men had wives and they never had to see them as lower beings, who are supposed to bow before their rubbish. Infact all the women in the Bible were wise enough to leave 1diot. Read up the story of Abigali,the wife of David.

Ihuomadinihu:
If you feel tormenting a woman is right and should be a test of loyalty,faithfulness and love,then most women will end up in psychiatrist wards today. I find it hard to understand how people support this test. If you married a woman and she turns bad after marriage wouldn't you understand that she was only hiding her true intentions and only hooked you with marriage.
Tormenting her and subjecting her to all types of test will only cool her down for a while and that doesn't make you a real man.
97percent of men on this thread are just cowards.
If per adventure you are going through same experience,you are only responsible for your errors.
I bet you also approved where he stated that all women must be controlled cos they have nothing upstairs?

jadelyn007:
Good thing you seperated the wheat from the chaff but, I can tell you if you conducted a nairaland poll right now, 97% will never want to be associated with him while the other 3% who wouldn't mind having him might do so because he is rich or she is very desperate.

My advice to you, do not let any lady torture you in the name of testing you, if she doesn't trust your genuity and sincerity, then she doesn't have any business being with you.

Same goes for you, do not torture any lady in the name of testing them. If you don't trust her enough to be sincere with her emotions for you, then its stupidity to be dating her.

jadelyn007:
. Lmao! Did you read the post where he said he was a sick young man then? So u want to be sick too, please note that unlike in his own case you might not find someone to cure you.

nairalife2013:
The kind of woman I married are few. She hung at d door and cried and told me she was so sorry abt what she did. I was crying inside as she spoke amidst sobs. My heart bled. But I had to do it. I was abt to hand my life to some1. I needed the best. I did dat to two other ladies who coursed me and left my life for good. But this one wept and told me she so much loved me her life could crash or end by heartache if she left, and she confirmed she couldn't live a day without me. I would hav deciphered if she was feigning remorse. It wouldn't take me long. I am who I am.
I opened the door and brought her in. Till today she is not aware I faked that angst. I loved her more. I was loaded widout her knowledge. I got her her first car, a saloon as I proposed to her. She was just entering sch. We got married. She took in. At delivery of our first child, I got her a suv. We were young and full of life. I was living my life just to give her joy and all necessities of life. I loved her beyond words. When she took in for our second child, the conception was at a time a terrible moodswing hit my wife. I thot she had changed. She would pick up argument s with me and make faces a whole week just for no just cause. She quarreled wid my younger sisters at any slight provocation and sat all day in an unkempt home watching her regular, favourite fbi action movies. I was mesmerized. Little thins piss me up. But I endured this one. I was afraid somthing was wrong. After delivery of our second child, abt a year later, Like some1 that woke up from a nightmare, My wife came to me and complained she involuntarily wakes every morning with bouts of indescribable anger flourishing in her heart. Since that day I knew it was my turn by providence to show love and tolerance and understanding. I did. My wife went thro those tormentous days without knowing the reason why she was so angrily depressed. One day, She went consciously to my sisters and apologized. Spent more time with them and amended all errors. It's some years now and all those trying times are over, leaving behind funny reminisces only a good heart could understand. When a lady is good, she is good. Your own goodness tho might be regarded as weakness or greed by an incompatible third party. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I do not regret my actions. Those ladies whose level of tolerance where below my recomended average had departed in good fate. I wished them luck and enduring love. My wife is now working and her welfare package, large as it is, is in my control on her insistence, with total abandon! She is selfless to a fault and prefares a one-lady lifestyle, upon the trappings of life chance and time have bestowed on her at her young age.
... My wife told me once: I see u not only as my husband but also as my father; reprimanding me in any way, as a father would her daughter, is lovingly accepted by me cause I trust yur sense of judgment and our kids would obey u for good if I myself obey u and succumb with respect; I love u to that point."
... There are many eager males and plenty of willing females in the world. If u stumble on yur right choice, love can let u into limitless tolerance. Many ladies are possesd by the destructive spirit of subconscious pride and seemingly suppressed self ego. The last creatures to know they need help allround. The few that are free hardly preach to their kind, The Message. Instead they vent the opposit of the message.
Dont do like me. I personally do not tally well long enoff with ladies who do not have the habit of accepting defeat wether they are right or wrong. Those type are good for one nite stand levels not for running a home. Pls find a way to be patient. If she is inherently a-self-worth-type of lady, u need to work harder on tolerance and never let yur praying knees get lazy. Goodluck.

MrsChima:
Yawns. You bore me.

This online thug facade is so old. Get a new life...AIDS is taking your first one.

MrsChima:
A manbish is hurting!! . LOVE YIT!

MrsChima:
Suffer by your hands? Bish..I fought with men wayyyyy above your league and they got tired. You are a little boy stepping in shit. Boop!

MBJ doesn't come to no one rescue. You are a newbie...so you are excused fagget.

Nurse that AIDS bish.

MrsChima:
You are a flaming fagget with full blown AIDS and that's the truth bish boy!

MbJ schooled your dumb ass!

MrsChima:
SMH. Nothing worse than a dumb nigga who think he know everything and know squat.

MRBrownJ:
bwaaaaaaaaaah! all these insults and yet you have said nothing relevant to this thread. i guess this is what happens when people have absolutely nothing relevant nor intelligent to say regarding the discussion, they start throwing childish insults....... you probably expect me to derail this thread and start throwing insults back at you but i CANT possibly lower myself to your level. have a great evening bro.
i wish you all the best.