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They lack dept of inspiration 'cos that's the limit of the imaginative prowess of the human authors.

OP, by the time you get old, say 80 years, and your "imminent" Rapture still hasn't taken place, then you'll understand how silly it is to hang on to straw.

OP, the bible says that a man who does not provide for his family is worse than an infidel.

With cases of christians dying of diseases from time immemorial, can't it be said that God is completely irresponsible?

Op, I like this post. Religion always smirks of Hypocritical Intolerance yet they all preach tolerance and love.

striktlymi: The ten commandments, from which your question was derived is intended to guide the conduct of men not God. God is our creator and reserves the right to do whatever He wills with His creatures.

The law against killing is only restricted to murder. Not every killing done by soldiers is murder.

Very very useless post.
So your God can't even lead by example!

Rexyl: if religion is a big joke. Life also could be a big joke based on your understanding

Hey, life isn't Religion and Religion is not life. Humanity predates Religion and life will continue to exist even when all Religions would have become extinct.
So many Religions have gone extinct and yours will in future.

OP, this question is simply an addition to Biblical Woes.
The authors of the bible stood Logic on its head by this strip of comedy.

This is a classical case of; FROM WHENCE DID EVIL COME?
If Adam and Eve didn't know good or evil, how could they have known that Disobedience was evil?

Now you know why some people don't take the bible seriously.

My mobile phone. I will need to be making long-distance calls.

He doesn't need to appear. We already know it doesnt. Except all Religions have their own versions of it.

We are all Infidels since we can't belong to all Religions at the same time.
Thats why Religion is a big joke!

taiwoawoniyi: Bro, I can relate to your experience. Some weeks ago,private prayer became very difficult for me. My advice is to take it to God in prayer. Pray that He should keep the fire of prayer burning. Study the Word,accounts of Peter,Paul,Simon,Jesus who had such radical faith and miracles trailing them. Fast and pray,I needn't overemphasize the importance of this. Pray in the spirit vigorously, listen to Men of God, Apostle Arome Osayi,Bishop Benson Idahosa and who rocks your both and confess any lingering sin. Sin keeps you from prayer and prayer keeps you from sin. So confess and forsake any sins. I pray that God will revive the fire of prayer in Jesus name. Happy sunday

How can he PRAY in order to start praying when his problem is praying in the first place?

OP, first, why did you stop praying? Was it 'cos you just lost interest or because you discovered it wasn't working?
Since you stopped, has your life become any worse or better?

Once these questions are answered, you have a solution.

alexleo: I didn't want to respond to this thread because of the sarcasm going on here which I consider useless for me to respond to.

However, this statement of yours caught my interest. And I ask- pls what's the mission of Jesus on earth?

Its in your bible.

Noah.
Just to ask him how many animals he truely accomodated in the Ark.
Awesome story. Hahaha.

Half? That's being generous!
More like 1% of CHRISTIANS, while the rest 99% christians and the rest of the world and underworld will populate hell.

In that case has Jesus' supposed mission on earth been a success?

Why do I keep imagining Klint the Drunk saying those words as I read them? Lol

Kay17: In other words, playing to the tunes of other people even when you are not there. I think that is a sad way to live.

You are completely responsible for what you think you understand from that post.

Like someone earlier said, life's purpose is what you make it.
That's what you'll be remembered for. Afterall, what you are remembered for is all that matters when you are gone.

valmunich: So you're tryna opine that this is a particular stage in life cos I don't see myself getting out of it. I do question the existence of God sometimes though

Very much so, especially if you are intelligent as I suppose.

Don't worry OP, its just the first step. Religion uses indoctrination and fear to instill adherence - that's all it has.

Next step is to start questioning all the crap you were thought in Sunday School.

After that, you'll get to question the Infallibility of God.

Finally, you'll understand why science doesn't even agree with the existence of any God.
At that point - welcome to ENLIGHTENMENT and AGE of REASON!

solotutu: i doubt you know much about prophecy. And besides prophecy is different frm divination. I wonder what benefit it would be to us all if a prophecy entails


1) a man from africa would be usa president
2) his name is barrack obama
3) he is going to support many controversial bill
4) he is going to be a harvard graduate



so pls do tell me, if the whollle world knew the facts of this kind of prophecy, what dyu think would happen? Americans would start looking for someone with all this features before they believe the prophecy would come to pass? Is that what youre saying?



And besides there are instances in the Bible where the names are given-Josiah, Cyrus and Jesus Christ. And rem its God's Spirit speaking thru these men.


I wonder which is more important to you. The name of who will fufill the prophecy, or the events that would come about which would surely affect everyone. What benefits are the names?


And about Ezekiel's Palestine been reinhabited by the Jews.


The speaking about the future is what makes the bible distinct from other books. Those who follow it are seeing its significance and me and you not believing it makes us just 0.00001percent of them all. The way its going to happen is what puts us in fear.

However we have a way out, which is where eternity comes in. You choose to be absent when the world is facing all this via Rapture.... Or you are left behind to partake of it. If this option isnt there. Then il readily agree with you that the Bible is indeed a useless book. A pity i cant agree to that!!!


The Jews didnt impose their religion on anyone. Last time i check it was a roman king that made the spread of christianity outside the bounds of the middle-east. Thats a baseless accusation.

Please tell me something about prophecy I don't know.

It means you failed to understand the logic.
If the bible had prophecies of those events, why isn't it specific and mention details? Why didn't it tell us his name would be Alexander of Macedonia?
Even the Quran has better prophecies.

Again, I ask, how is any biblical "prophecy" superior to that by a non biblical prophet like Nostradamus?

Now, concerning your story of a former atheist, its funny how you guys think one way. For your info, atheism is at a massive rise due to enlightenment and superior information. No serious mind will remain pitched with a racist, child killing, vengeful God.

If you were studious, you'd know that in the past, several people, King Alvan the terrible, King Herod, Mosilini, Hitler and Pope Benedict have all been linked to biblical prophecy as being Anti-christ. Did they turn out to be?
All these should tell you is that its all permutation.
Anyone who cares for prophecies will always search links to any events to attribute it to.

By the way, without the Fear factor in Religion, no one will remain devout.
With all the flaws and errors of fact in the bible no serious mind can take it seriously.

So you were told the Jews didn't impose their Religion. Please try and study, read about the Crusades, read about the Inquisition in Europe in the 2nd century.

solotutu: hmm you call them uninformed fishermen Thats uncalled for. Besides isnt it normal to fear anything that concerns the future of the world at a whole? The day all the Body of Christ begins to study and dissect this book with attention( imagine ignoring a book about your very own future. That fellow would be called mad and foolish no doubt) Revelations and Daniel, these two are scary, but Daniel's own talked about even Alexander the Great!!! These are all goina happen real. As in real events. Thats what makes it all scary.


Connecting Prophecies/revealtions with History will make many to understand the bible more. Virtually all of Ezekiel's prophecies happened and are still happening till date, unchanged even by civilization. Hmm

What future are you talking about?
Your chosing to believe the bible isn't going to change the fact that it was written by a bunch of unlearned, folklore-believing tribal jews who were bent on selling their Religion at all cost.
Why does your religion have to bask in fear to instill conformity? Not different from what islam is doing now!

Concerning Revelations or Prophecy, why do people always have to wait for an event to happen in order to then link it to a prophecy? Why didn't Daniel tell us the name of the Emperor would be Alexander? Why not tell us exactly where he'll come from?
Was Nostradamus a biblical prophet? Didn't his prophecy concerning 9/11 come to pass. How do you think it happened?

What prophecies of Ezekiel is still happening pls?

Look, there are people who know enough to care less about your "future apocalypse". These are the people who are really living their lives.
Those who fear an "unknown future" die so many times before their actual death.

alexleo: No. Some of the historical events that took place in the bible are not hidden to us today. They were live events and not vision. Again The new testament gospels were not visions. Paul and the other apostles taught what Christ taught them in the new testament.

The point you are making about seeing God in a vision is a different case because the bible said that no ,man has seen God. So you may be right that the vision may not have given the exact and complete appearance of God but you cant use it to generalize other vision in the bible. There are visions that God showed that later came to pass as shown.
Saul in his conversion was shown a vision and it later happened as shown
Nebuchadnezzar vision came in a different way too, also that of Joseph.

Historical events like?

The visions were seen by different biblical prophets and bore similarities such that the appearance and physical attributes of the God-person were similar. This makes it clear that it was same being.
If the case you are making is that the visions were not true representation of the biblical God, and so unreliable, then we can also assume that visions by Paul and John in the Revelation, etc, were unreliable too.

Nebuchadnezzar wasn't a biblical Prophet so he isn't even expected to see beyond simbolic representations.

Akell: The book of Revelation is the last book of the Christian Bible. It was written by Apostle Paul on the island of Patmos at a time when Christians were being persecuted because of their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. The writer's main concern is to hope and encouragement, and to urge them to remain faithful during times if suffering and persecution.

For the most part of the book consists of several series of revelations and visions presented in symbolic language that would have been understood by Christians of that day, but would have remained a mystery to all others.

The central theme is clear: through Christ the Lord, God will finally and totally defeat all His enemies, including Satan, and will reward his faithful people with the blessings of a new Heaven and a new earth when this victory is complete.

As a person, I always have this fear when reading this book. Most times, I its as much as possible to avoid it. It's like watching a horror movie
do you read this book? Do you also have this fear

Revelation was by John, not paul.
Fear what? Something written by uninformed fishermen?

The Fear factor is exactly what Religion thrives on.

With or without that book, can you really prove that a man named Yeshua (Jesus) was crucified for claiming the title "King of the Jews"?

sistar007: Explanation of visions with real life scenes make it contradictory to people.

If Ezekiel and Daniel were in our age Their visions would have been explained in a different way

In that case can we also say the same for the entire bible?

MisterLongman: Chaii...... See kweshion

I think he had reasons to have asked, answer him.

sistar007: But the Bible still tells u that no Eyes has seen God

Yeah that is what makes the Bible confusing

Yeah, really contradictory and confusing, that's why one can say it was written by a bunch of people with different ideas.

However, it records that Ezekiel and Daniel saw this in visions.

sistar007: God is not an individual

See ; Ezekiel 1:4-28, Daniel 7:9-10
Revelation 1:13-18

Those bible passages give details of his personality and physical attributes, with arms, loin, feet, etc.
Ezekiel also mentions him sitting on a throne, proves he is an individual with a personality.

Tymax: You dare not say no.

Hmm, even God would be angry.

dnacrystal: But honestly, what do guys think when a girl shows affection directly?

Same way girls feel, only that she is then seen as bold.

ideyhere: Everything

menix: @livewire.. Ur lie can resurrect a decaying corpse...
Expect she'z a he, then I wuld blive...

I don't really need to convince you.
Anyway, FYI, it happened to me more than once.
Took me time to recall all the details here.