₦airaland Forum

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I do not like to argue blindly, bros

If we are discussing, let us be realistic and not running here and there

Nigerian doctors deserve at least £5,000 per week.

Which government can pay that now?

Just start from here first.[/color]

You just dey swing go the extreme end with this pay talk.

How many doctors do we have in this country that government cannot pay properly since they have discovered just how important they are.
Literally allocate a part of our budget to the medical industry and pay them.. Then you can iron out requirements and whatnot.

You keep screaming how the US and UK pay more.
My guy the US and UK pay more for almost all jobs except 1..guess which..just guess....

OH yes to be a legislator 😂😂😂.

Once again not every doctor who japas actually wants to japa but these guys dey suffer shege.

I talked about hazard allowance before Unlimited22 and he has mentioned it.

Nawa.. I don tire to repeat myself

Theflint1:
You probably entered Uni 2012, so plus the 5 years imprisonment, Jesse go don spend 17 years before he's free to dictate how he wants his career to go

Lmaooooo God.

Just because FG has neglected their duties for years oo😂

DeadPresidents:
The same PDP wey dey fear APC and only get power to attack Obedients

Lmao... PDP wey still get people online.. Them nor just ever sabi do opposition or close marking.

Obidients observed apc for 8yrs and learnt from all the arguments with them and basically were ready when it was time.

Unlimited22:
The solution is staring people in the face. But it doesn't affect them directly so they don't care.

Better working conditions, better remuneration. Gaskiya that is all.

The average salary in the English Championship is around 25-30k pounds per week if I'm not mistaken.
I have been a doctor officially since Feb 4, 2019. And in those 4+ years combined, I haven't earned up to a quarter of that.


How much do Nigerian lawmakers earn?

Go check the average starting salaries for agencies like NIMASA.

It's simple but nooooooo.....why should they want to leave? Who will we see to oppress??

Izzou

DeadPresidents:
Bro, I had a roommate called Jesse who was doing his MBBS when I was in Uniport. I and Jesse were in 100L together, I left school 2017, worked at 3 different companies, married...even japa and Jesse is currently doing his housemanship through no fault of his.

Omo, e reach to punch pesin for teeth wey misyarn.

Lmao I finished uni in 3yrs 9 months.
Like I said.. View this thing through the eyes of a medical doctor you go para gan

Unlimited22:
Lol. the experienced doctors will leave and the younger ones will stay and you're assuming it'll be a lifesaver to you and millions.

There are only 12 consultant pediatric nephrologists in Nigeria and one of them, a professor, just left to become an INTERN in the US.

His salary as an intern is somewhere around 40-50k USD annually. His salary as a Professor and a consultant will be less than that if you calculate at 750, and you want people not to leave?


That aside, is the public school education only subsidised for health workers? Abi other professions have nothing to contribute to our country?

Honest question though. Coz I believe it would be a partial solution.


Do you think an increase of salary, and basically better compensation will help slow down the medical brain drain?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You read my comment very well.

He is the only person here that would complain and I'll keep quiet.

Apart from that, that bill would most likely be a lifesaver to me, and millions of Nigerians. [/color]

So after he has complained the bill would suddenly stop being viewed as a life saver to you and millions of Nigerians..

OasisX:


LLNP eh! That Niggà sabi cause kalasa sha. If one no gel well, e go cause another.

Lol everything na play, game or politics to you.
Nor be me tell you to dey associated with apc oga.

seankafor:
APC drugords has sponsored a faction on the labor party chairmanships

Hahahaha.. we re familiar with your game

There's already a ruling in an Edo court to prevent things like this.
So it was a waste of time from APC.

Theflint1:
The lawmakers are skirting around the systemic problems facing the health sector and the country by extension. The level of japa we have now is as bad because of the APC's mismanagement in the past 8 years, and banning doctors from traveling out will not fix that problem.

This quick-fix policy that's being made a law has long-term implications which I'm sure our legislators haven't bothered to consider. When they're done with doctors I only wonder who else will fall in the chopping block.

People think this will stop at doctors.
You want to allow this stand and you think it won't extend to nursing, law, pharmacy, engineering, even IT related courses.

Again everybody who has gone and graduated from FG universities will be affected by this.
Me kukuma go private uni so wetin concern me🤲

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The only man that would get angry and i would understand[/color]

Bruh what?
You need to stick to a side in this issue.
Are you standing with the 150m Nigerians or the medical doctors?

Unlimited22:
Everybody goes to public school in Nigeria at a subsidised rate

All the researchers in Graduate programs abroad contributing to the scientific advancement of those countries are all ingrates who despise the fact that education is cheap here. Go and check average nonmedical student debt in the USA and Canada


You won't talk about the terrible working conditions, poor remuneration,disheartening government policies that are causing people (not just doctors, but people in general) to seek greener pastures abroad.


E don reach health workers all of una Don remember Hippocrates and him yeye oath.


Nonsense and jollof rice ingredients.

Go on

Unlimited22:
I've been trying to avoid commenting on this thread


If I speak on this I will still be accused of being partisan.

Nah fam.. People need to get your perspective. Maybe people will understand that you guys are also humans and not slaves

BlaqFaze:
I guess the health sector is the most hit and they're trying to be proactive in solving it

Proactive?!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

DissTroy:
Peter Obi isn't the LP. I didn't vote and/or canvass for any other LP candidate asides Obi. He's the one I've known and whose sociopolitical journey I have followed with verifiable antecedence.

Only in coming heightened politicking/electioneering seasons would I be able to root for other candidates whose vetting process to verified candidacy I followed.

Obi isn't of the old hands.

Fear not.. It doesn't affect his case if for any reason this doesn't get sorted out

Itsrm:
Interesting. I could have sworn that the EFCC was different from other law enforcement agencies based on how they project themselves.

Ehn? 😂😂

Ibime:
Same elder that spent 2 years in jail for the Biafran cause

Never talk down on a nigga who paid his dues in blood

Respectfully he can fvck off after calling me a fascist

Melvyn11:
Even people who studied other courses for FRRE in this same country are saying yes.
Same people if given a green card would not hesitate to leave the country.
I don't understand why it's always a problem when health workers are leaving the country but no one bats an eyelid when other people leave the country. The law should be for every profession in the country or else it's just emotional blackmail.

The end.

Itsrm:
That was the same way ASUU vowed to continue the strike. What happened?

After the doctors vowed to continue the strike, what now happened?

21st of September court ordered them to suspend strike, 27th of September they suspended the strike.

So you're saying the government met their demands in 6 days having not met it in more than one month before the court order

Continue

You are sure you are looking at the dates so.

The link you sent me was for 2021..you are telling me about last year September strike..

Which is it?

Itsrm:
You like throwing words around.

Ngige got a court order asking them to suspend the strike. Like ASUU they initially refused but reason prevailed eventually and they called off the strike.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/488077-breaking-nine-weeks-after-nigerian-doctors-call-off-strike.html?tztc=1

From your own report.

I don't know how you linked them calling off the strike to ngige when the report said this below

FFK ehn.. I nor even know wetin to talk at this point 😂😂😂

This bill also sets a precedent for every other course.
Hope you people know.
As far as you go to a FG uni, you have subsidised education and this can be applied to you.

And let's ask ourselves why our education is subsidised in the first place.. We like mentioning the US and UK but we are not talking about how their economies provides enough jobs and options to do things compared to naija.

Nor be people dey argue in favour of fuel subsidy here.. How it will cause wahala because the government has not put things in place to help the citizens..

So which is it gan gan?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The fact that you think this bill has anything to do with those legislative members there is what is funny to me.

ALL OF THEM passing that bill can comfortably fly themselves out and get good health care

Me that can only afford General Hospital and Iya Alagbo will not be frowning?

Abeg Abeg[/color]

I mentioned them to further drive home a point.
That's more reason for doctors to not shift ground if they react to this bill.

Itsrm:
No need to even use ASUU

These same doctors have gone on strike before or maybe they wanted to I can't remember clearly but I know that short man called Ngige conquered them and they either called off the strike or cancelled the planned strike.

If there's anything we have learnt from this APC government, no matter who you are, you can't fight them.

Ngige handled who?
You should use your search engine and check how the strike ended..

izzou:
[color=royalblue]If a doctor goes on strike today, he is still open to negotiations. This is quite different from quitting and leaving

I don't know why you are using this example. I have been avoiding it because it doesn't match.

Or do doctors collect allowances from somewhere else when they are on strike?[/color]

You are stopping them from leaving.. You are not doing anything whatsoever to make employment worth it for them.. At the same time these doctors have consistently voiced their displeasure concerning what they earn.

And they watch politicians japa outside Nigeria to get treatment.

So why you think say doctors nor fit dey house for 3 months.. Offer private services once in awhile and still plan their japa..

Who you think say this thing go affect pass?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Maybe our UK brothers can help me, but this is what my Google says.

So how well will you pay a doctor, that he wouldn't consider running away to UK?
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Izzou if doctors go on strike today.. That your person wey you wan carry go hospital, how you go do am?

Itsrm:
Last I checked, Ngige is still the minister for Labour. Go and ask ASUU how far

Wetin concern them with ASUU.

You really want to compare the effects of doctors going on strike to lecturers going on strike in Nigeria...


Lmao is this playing or what?

We dey talk doctors.. So wetin our HOA go come do about our nurses wey dey japa aggressively 😩😩😩

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I am a common man, so i need to look at the effect.

I may need to take my mum to the hospital someday.

I get there, and i join the queue for 6 hours

Who is on the losing side? Me or the NASS member that proposed the bill?[/color]

Izzou if doctors decide to go on strike today as a result of this bill..

What will anybody do?
Basically FG after making mouth has come to show that doctors are very important with this move so why you feel say these same doctors nor go react to this?

Ellexy:
No wonder she rejected that National Honour APC wanted to give her.

She has done that more than once I think

izzou:
[color=royalblue]How well do you think you can pay them, that will remove their eyes from UK and USA? Be sincere to yourself

Bank EDs that earn well dey japa. People who work in Oil firms and earn good money, dey japa. PWc and KPMG guys that i admire in my Uber days, don full Canada.

So please, how well would you pay a doctor, that will make him denounce going to US and UK?

Let's be very realistic.

Can Tinubu pay £10/hour for a doctor?[/color]

Oga japa is not an easy process and alot of people will not japa if you offer them very good compensation.
At the very least you will even delay some to stay back longer before leaving.
People who are undergrads will also be affected and look forward to earning.

Not everyone that is japaing wants to japa and these are the people who these changes will convince to stay.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I am even surprised that Nigerians living in Nigeria see it as a wicked policy

Until you go to a hospital (Public or private), and they tell you there is no doctor on duty, or you have to wait 5 hours to see one, na that time the person go understand the problem wey dey on board.

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You are looking at the effect.. You have refused to acknowledge the seriousness of the cause.

Again if these guys go on strike wetin any of us go do ni?