₦airaland Forum

Itsrm:
Our current wage bill is 30% of the total budget. What you guys are proposing and the resultant effect will take our wage bill to more than 70%. That is not realistic.

I already said that I do not think that an increase in salary will necessarily make doctors stay. We all know at the back of our minds that the conditions of work that will make them stay is not likely to happen in this lifetime.

So what do we do in the interim? Ask them to serve and endure another 5 years or keep losing them in large numbers to the West?

So now who doesn't have a solution 🤲🤲

Unlimited22:
Next thing will be to stop issuing passports and stopping schools from sending transcripts to foreign institutions.

Make all of them dey play.

This is the one that will maybe make everybody's eye clear.


I know that the IT industry is safe coz of the investments its bringing in and its mostly private sector.

But I know that nurses will most definitely be targeted

Everytime be logical be logical.. Like say all the logic in the world has helped this country achieve anything..

OH be realistic.. Nawa sha
I Don tire

Doctor in Nigeria.

Lmaoo una feel say una careers hard😂😂.
Better ask medical practitioners in Nigeria to give you gists of miracles dey perform everyday without even tools that they can manage.

Then you'll understand why I consider the HOR to be very very stupid and as usual out of touch with reality 😂

Lmao

Itsrm:
It's not just realistic. The country cannot afford it. If you propose 750k for doctors on housemanship, how much are you going to pay senior consultants.

How long will it take before other unions start demanding for the same money for their members?

And even if you somehow manage to pay them, 750k monthly will not stop MOST of them from leaving. Emphasis is on most. I know you already alluded to the fact that it won't stop some of them from leaving.

Guy you cannot stop most from leaving.. You can reduce the figures of those leaving.. That's what the FG has to do.
It's the consequences of the FG's lackadaisical attitude to medical doctors over the years.
Coz you cannot stop them.. Your goal should be to reduce it by enticing them and it will reduce.

If that bill is passed then you'll see even less medical doctors available coz why tf should I go to uni for 10yrs and still have my certificate held with the current state of things..

Na jazz ni abi the career dey guarantee them spot for heaven?

Amigoss:
We still collect for not wailing ooo and supporting a buhari and APC policy

What more do they want from us?! 😭😭

Itsrm:

Too much.. I don't think so.

You've shown them that they are extremely important and honestly medical professionals should be paid extremely well anywhere in the world and especially in Nigeria where they are really needed.

If you say that's too much then FG never ready.
These suppose dey collect hazard allowance of like 100k sef.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Stop repeating yourself, bros

I have asked you to give me a figure of what that better pay is, and you have been dodging the question

The UK equivalently pays 4 million a month
NG pays 250k a month

So tell us the the better pay that will make a Nigerian doctor reject a UK work visa

Tell us, sir and stop repeating yourself[/color]

Increase the amount to 750k.
Infact make it a million. (please don't tell me there are people that will japa because I've already told you that it will not stop japa but it will stop some of them from leaving)
Provide them with better working tools (this will take more time but these guys will be encouraged to work more)
These guys dey sacrifice alot just to study and graduate.
Then the FG can finally draw up an agreement with them also to bind them atleast then nobody will blame the FG.

Those are some suggestions.
It won't stop japa but I know it will reduce it

Donjazet2:
Shriveled gbola is a walking talking bag of hypocrisy.

He calls obidients the worst names one can think of while turning a blind eye to the atrocities of the party which he supports. Age is supposed to make one wiser as he grows but I guess there's a reason why the saying, a fool at forty... Exists.
Very unfortunate he's fallen into the latter group.

Lmao.. It's okay to call us names.. But back it up with reasons.

Some older people here think they are the only ones that have "realistic" views about life.
We younger ones have not fought battles that we survived. We be babies nau wey them dey take care of.


If we decide to meet up and have a conversation on views about life I definitely know that I'll end up disappointed by what I see and hear. I am so sure of that😁.

But oh well make we keep am to just answering simple questions asked🤌

Amigoss:
Lool but most of you batist were wailing and crying on here about fuel scarcity and cash scarcity,pushed the blame on Obidients who supported an APC policy.

Fuel subsidy is about to removed,Una go still wail and blame obidients again if we decide to support buhari and APC on this again

Lmaoooo na really us them blame oo... Them blame us and still blame 'cabal'.
😁

Amigoss:
That gbef no get answer to your question,no worry yourself. Very dull elder,na to talk about izz ou condom and sexualise posts

Lmao..
Nai make I nor need stress myself.
Whenever he has mind, he will answer the questions.
Till then he remains a whaaat.. A bad joke🙏

🤭

GloriousGbola:
you are free to livelongandwail

Lmao.. And you remain a bad joke till you answer those questions.
You can sleep on it🙏

GloriousGbola:
It is indeed a joke that needs validation from a jjc headless mob who think elections are won on twitter.
A nob who will turn on anyone with a contrary opinion

I do hope you do not actually apply this kind of thinking in real life.

If bola Ahmed Tinubu had taken this approach to all the setbacks he encountered he would have been in the same place as your principal today.

Man up grow up dust your self off and do a post mortem. Or spend the next 16 years wailing, gnashing teeth and recycling old history to salve your ego.

Lmao oga like I said when you answer the questions then I will know you are not a joke.
All these side yappings are for your fellow apc guys.

Izzou the tweets here further lend credence to what I am saying

https://twitter.com/Ayomidejoe/status/1644041945373880320?t=Hwdsg5ZdjZWhtH3IezztMw&s=19

GloriousGbola:
it is some peoples destiny to wail and make noise. it is what it is. Bola Tinubu will do 8 years. then he will handover to the north. at the end of 16 years, maybe you would have gotten your shit together. or maybe you will still be engaging in whataboutisms and online cancelling and fake resistance.

since my life is not confined to social media, i have no need to be taken serious by the headless mob that is the obedient movement. give you six months to one year and you will have alienated and cancelled every other useful idiot that supports your movement.

@oasisX - please fire us with another picture of president elect Bola Hamed tinubu. obidients are free to throw together a sloppy photoshop of obi sitting at a desk with a giant phone to canaanland labelled daddy , waiting for instructions from oyedepo

Since you agree you are a joke.. Then we are good🙏.

When you answer questions like an adult then we will take you serious 🙏

OasisX:


This Dude never moves pass NL Likes & Shares Mentality. You're listing Twitter Influencers with no electoral values?

Kúkú list LiveLongNprospa, Theflint1 and uncle Sege too..... they rep well on NL! LMFAO

Lmaooo.. No electoral value keh.. You don't even realize your importance to apc.
If una nor dey here, who go do the dirty work?

That I have to say this to you sef.. Nawa😂

GloriousGbola:
https://www.nairaland.com/7643311/how-tinubu-won-presidential-election

Reality is often disappointing

Anyways chimamanda is free to write Joe Biden as many letters as she wants

Joe has direct experience of the obidients. In America that are called the maga movement.

Awwnn so we carry guns and threaten to disrupt the government abi?

So what would you call the party that actually threatened to create a parallel government?
A party that claimed a sitting president had them marked for death and manufactured a fake list..

A party that divided the country along ethnic lines with a same faith ticket because according to them "a northern minority Christian won't be accepted in the north".


What would you call that party?
The day you answer that question is the day we will actually take you serious😁

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Nigeria is bad. The economy is bad

And then the Healthcare workers became highly sought for all over. You saw Ibime say that UK almost swept off all nurses in the Phillipines.

Buhari did not stop paying doctors. The terrible economy, coupled with the fact that better options are rising is the reason for the Japa.

What is your next question?[/color]

So what do you think will happen if the government makes the profession alot more rewarding.

You think the japa wave won't reduce.
What do you think would happen if the government reduces insecurity..

That would further reduce the rate these guys japa.
Once again it doesn't mean some won't migrate but it that rate will drop because like I've consistently told you.


NOT EVERYBODY THAT TRAVELS ACTUALLY WANTS TO TRAVEL OUT.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUSHED TO THE WALL BY NIGERIA THAT NO MATTER THE EXCUSE THEY'VE TRIED TO MAKE TO REMAIN, THIS COUNTRY STILL FVCKS IT UP.
GIVE DOCTORS BETTER PAY.
PROVIDE THEM WITH BETTER EQUIPMENTS TO WORK WITH AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO PASS A LAW THAT SAYS THEY SHOULD STAY THEN PASS A LAW THAT BARS PUBLIC SERVANTS FROM TRAVELLING OUT TOO FOR ANY FORM OF MEDICAL SERVICE.

THIS WILL MAKE MORE DOCTORS TO STAY

Nezzjnr:
Maybe I'm just talking on my experience in most Private Hospitals.

This na private hospital nau.. Which even proves my point.
You find more doctors there because there's more money there I believe.

See abeg make person tell me say this na just camera angle.. Because I nor understand.
They both bear emeka.. Both served in the army.

Omo

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Ibime posted £56k a year. That is like 56 million here. A month makes is about 4 million plus.

Better pay, Better pay.

I am hoping for someone to tell us what the better pay will be, that would be able to discourage a doctor from japaing[/color]

We have asked you to tell us what caused japa wave to go up in the last 3yrs?
Especially as the process even became more expensive and more competitive..
Why doctors dey japa aggressively now.

If you answer that question, then you'll at the very least get an answer to your question.

Nezzjnr:
https://www.nairaland.com/7643568/miles-routledge-lord-miles-captured



Some people can take stupid risks sha.

Life don tire this one

I still find it funny that the only job in this country that actually keeps up with the US in pay and even does better sef are those of Legislators in NASS.

😂

Omo apc really suspended alot of igbo members..

Wetin happen nau?
The current minister they suspended Geoffrey Onyeama, what did he do though?

Does it have anything to do with the rumour that he was meant to blackmail Obi in the US and he refused..

I wonder sha🤔


Truth or something close to it will come out soon😁

Plus I thought the apc has always had a position of foreigners opinions do not matter.

Why are they now looking for foreign reports to legitimise the rubbish they did?

Ahn ahn..
The way this party shape shifts ehn... Dracula and Terminator T-1000 model will be super impressed🙏

When is tinubu responding to the petition nau

15 days left oo 😩

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OasisX:
How Tinubu won presidential election – American ObserverJohnnie Carson says Bola Tinubu has three things that his opponents did not have going to the presidential election.

An American diplomat and a foreign observer in the 2023 general elections, Johnnie Carson, says three factors were responsible for the victory of the President-elect, Bola Tinubu.

Mr Carson, an Executive Officer of the United States Institute of Peace (USIP), spoke in Washington DC when the Minister of Information and Culture, Lai Mohammed, paid an official visit to the institute to engage on the concluded elections.

The diplomat said he co-led National Democratic Institute (NDI) and International Republican Institute (IRI), International Election Observation Mission to Nigeria during the elections.

According to him, Mr Tinubu, the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) candidate, undoubtedly won the polls and will be sworn-in come May 29, except something happens dramatically with the court.

“Do you know why he won, he got the money, he had the best national organisation that worked for him and the ground game,’’ he said.

Mr Carson emphasised that for a candidate to win an election in Nigeria, like a lot of democracy in the globe, the three things, including substantial and significant financial resources were needed.

Others, according to him, are a national working organisation and a grassroots acceptance.

He said while Mr Tinubu had all the three criteria in his kitty during the polls, the other major contenders did not have all.

Speaking specifically on the Labour Party presidential candidate, Mr Carson said, “on the part of Mr Peter Obi, he did not have the ground game and a national organisation.

“Obi is, however, very popular, particularly among the young, educated, urban and sophisticated,’’ he said.

Mr Carson said the presidential election was one of the most competitive polls in Nigeria and in Africa.

He, however, observed that the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) needed to up its game.

“Nigeria deserves the very best electoral process. “To me, the problem is not with Tinubu and the other candidates,’’ he said.

Mr Carson hailed President Muhammadu Buhari for his commitment in delivering a free and fair election for Nigeria.

He said the president “is a man of outstanding integrity’’ and he demonstrated the attribute in the past elections.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/592059-how-tinubu-won-presidential-election-american-observer.html

Mr carson's organisation had this to say about the election

"Abuja, Nigeria - The International Republican Institute (IRI) and National Democratic Institute (NDI) Joint Election Observation Mission (IEOM), led by Her Excellency Dr. Joyce Banda, former President of Malawi, presented its preliminary statement about the February 25 presidential and National Assembly elections in Nigeria.

“We congratulate the people of Nigeria for their resilience and enthusiasm to participate in the process,” said H.E. Dr. Banda. “Despite large crowds in some polling stations and long waits, Nigerian voters demonstrated commitment to participate in the process and a strong desire to have their voices heard.”

The NDI/IRI 40-member joint IEOM was deployed across all six geopolitical regions of the country, and observed all stages of the voting process. Their observations informed preliminary findings and 27 practical recommendations to improve future elections.

The mission notes that despite the much-needed reforms to the The Electoral Act 2022, the election fell well short of Nigerian citizens’ reasonable expectations. Logistical challenges and multiple incidents of political violence overshadowed the electoral process and impeded a substantial number of voters from participating. Ongoing currency and fuel shortages also imposed excessive burdens on voters and election officials, and Nigerian marginalized groups, especially women, continue to face barriers to seeking and obtaining political office

The delegation observed that late opening of polling locations and logistical failures created tensions and the secrecy of the ballot was compromised in some polling units given overcrowding. At the close of the polls, challenges with the electronic transfer of results and their upload to a public portal in a timely manner, undermined citizen confidence at a crucial moment of the process. Moreover, inadequate communication and lack of transparency by the Independent National Electoral Commission’s (INEC) about their cause and extent created confusion and eroded voters’ trust in the process. The combined effect of these problems disenfranchised Nigerian voters in many areas, although the scope and scale is currently unknown. Despite these issues, Nigerians once again demonstrated their commitment to the democratic process. Voters displayed extraordinary resilience and resolve to have their voices heard through the ballot, and INEC administered a nationwide election according to the electoral calendar for the first time in the country’s recent history.

As the nation awaits the results of the February 25 polls and the Nigerian people prepare for upcoming gubernatorial elections, we urge political actors and their supporters to remain calm and exercise restraint. The mission encourages INEC, the government, political actors and civil society to redouble their efforts to deliver on citizen expectations for transparent and inclusive elections, and to ensure that electoral outcomes are a credible expression of the voters’ will.

The delegation is grateful for the hospitality and cooperation it received from all Nigerians with whom it met. IRI and NDI will continue to watch the remaining phases of the electoral process, including the announcement of official results and swearing in of newly elected officials. The delegation’s work was possible thanks to support from USAID."

To make it worse this was just a preliminary report oo.. Meaning they had not even experienced the madness that was INEC collation yet 😂😂😂😂.


So I nor know how we go do am my dear elder brother 🤲.

OasisX:
How Tinubu won presidential election – American ObserverJohnnie Carson says Bola Tinubu has three things that his opponents did not have going to the presidential election.

An American diplomat and a foreign observer in the 2023 general elections, Johnnie Carson, says three factors were responsible for the victory of the President-elect, Bola Tinubu.

Mr Carson, an Executive Officer of the United States Institute of Peace (USIP), spoke in Washington DC when the Minister of Information and Culture, Lai Mohammed, paid an official visit to the institute to engage on the concluded elections.

The diplomat said he co-led National Democratic Institute (NDI) and International Republican Institute (IRI), International Election Observation Mission to Nigeria during the elections.

According to him, Mr Tinubu, the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) candidate, undoubtedly won the polls and will be sworn-in come May 29, except something happens dramatically with the court.

“Do you know why he won, he got the money, he had the best national organisation that worked for him and the ground game,’’ he said.

Mr Carson emphasised that for a candidate to win an election in Nigeria, like a lot of democracy in the globe, the three things, including substantial and significant financial resources were needed.

Others, according to him, are a national working organisation and a grassroots acceptance.

He said while Mr Tinubu had all the three criteria in his kitty during the polls, the other major contenders did not have all.

Speaking specifically on the Labour Party presidential candidate, Mr Carson said, “on the part of Mr Peter Obi, he did not have the ground game and a national organisation.

“Obi is, however, very popular, particularly among the young, educated, urban and sophisticated,’’ he said.

Mr Carson said the presidential election was one of the most competitive polls in Nigeria and in Africa.

He, however, observed that the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) needed to up its game.

“Nigeria deserves the very best electoral process. “To me, the problem is not with Tinubu and the other candidates,’’ he said.

Mr Carson hailed President Muhammadu Buhari for his commitment in delivering a free and fair election for Nigeria.

He said the president “is a man of outstanding integrity’’ and he demonstrated the attribute in the past elections.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/592059-how-tinubu-won-presidential-election-american-observer.html

Funny that the board he sits on actually condemned the election and called it below par.. So which is it my dear elder brother? 😩

Lmao.. 10yrs then another 5yrs before you get your licence.. Which parent go allow their pikin do that kind thing?
😂😂😂

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Bank Managers with their allowances still japa

Directors and Heads of Depts in Multinationals still japa.

My friend works in a Multinational an earns 300k told me her HOD that earns millions a month, japad to Canada. So what is your point, sir?

I have asked you how we can pay these doctors what they rightfully deserve, and all of una dey write story everywhere

Okay, doctors deserve £1,000 a week. How do we pay them this money?

Your next reply go be epistle[/color]

And you have forgotten that the japa wave skyrocketed in the last 3yrs because of this government especially after EndSars happened and country got even more bleeped up.
Nigerian admission rate into UK schools jumped over 200% in 2021 and still climbed last year again.
Proof of funds became a hustle from last year.

Why wasnt it this bad during the times of PDP?


Again you think everybody that japas actually wants to japa.. Nor be so guy.

Pay them better and people will stay.
Fix the country and it will further flatten the curve.
Infact just sorting out insecurity and paying them better will reduce the japa wave of doctors very well...