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Ibime:
Kroos whose German team get flogged every tournament?

Before Xavi, every team has a midfield playmaker, and dominance was determined by how many times your playmaker could dominate the opposition team in midfield

Milan had Zvonimir Boban, Fiorentina had Rui Costa, Lazio had Veron, Juve had Zidane. You had Seedorf, Michael Laudrup, Prosinecki, Riquelme, Redondo, Guardiola, Valderamma, Thomas Hassler, Andreas Moller, Stefan Effenberg, Ronaldo De Boer, Juan Carlos Valderon etc

Every match you watch they were trading blows for midfield dominance. Rui Costa won the midfield against Zidane today, Hassler won the midfield against Redondo yesterday. Last week Valderon murdered Riquelme, today Seedorf edged out Veron, and few months ago Laudrup dominated Guardiola. The fun of football then was in seeing who will carry the day in midfield today

They were all playing musical chairs until Xavi came along and ended all bullshit. Xavi did not play games or compete with any of his peers. He dominated each and every one without exception and without fail. He made it boring.

That's why he is the greatest CM of all time.

Bros where was xavi before 2006?
Did Toni Kroos deliver in 2014 for Germany at the world cup or not?
Mention 3 better players than Kroos in that German team?
As if xavi dominated through out his career.
Barcelona system of tiki taka died when iniesta left and not xavi because we saw what iniesta did in 2015 when xavi was mostly useless.

There's no passing stats you want to bring for xavi that I can't bring something of equivalence for Toni Kroos. Again don't forget Kroos has mostly played as the deepest lying midfielder and also dm.
Xavi has always had busquets to protect his ass.

Remind me when Casemiro left Madrid and what Kroos has been doing for the last 2 years.

If you are talking about dominance, Kroos led midfield has won 5ucl's while delivering it b2b2b.
What is a xavi

TrebleChamp:
Oya enjoy this small clip first, you fit post Kroos own too ooh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UTweE7kpiw?si=RwjdiQ14T6rqlOWP

This is Kroos just for last season and some parts of this season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-PZ1utSBY?si=F65SHVbNL1vEwDs5

TrebleChamp:
Chief no argue this one, Xavi was the reason Barcelona and Spain played "tikitaka" possession football to good effect, as soon as he left both teams tikitaka died. Xavi Hernandez was a midfield Controller-General.....

So wetin you go call Kroos then?

What is something xavi does better than kroos?
They are practically the same when it comes to ball retention and 1st touches.
Kroos maintains a higher percentage of passes completed and also has more chances created than xavi in UCL.
Infact Kroos dey create more chances than Messi for UCL.
Nobody has beaten him.

Kroos is a high volume passer even when madrid isn't a possession based team.
Kroos is also more defensive than xavi.
So again explain.
Kroos has been more consistent than xavi.
Infact before 2006, how many times did you really hear of xavi?
In the world cup they both won, both of them delivered for their national teams.

TrebleChamp:
Chief no argue this one, Xavi was the reason Barcelona and Spain played "tikitaka" possession football to good effect, as soon as he left both teams tikitaka died. Xavi Hernandez was a midfield Controller-General.....

Lmaoo but Barcelona continued being a possession based team for years even after xavi left.
Infact you'd say they died when iniesta left sef than xavi😁

DissTroy:
Corn logic: Let's ignore the obvious tainting lie spewed by a support group of our party to focus on telling the opposition not to complain Peter Obi wasn't the only one mentioned in the lie.

Lmao.. You dey waste your time with this talk honestly.. 1 trillion😂😂

TrebleChamp:
Xavi Hernandez

How?
Nor call. Name.

Tell me how?
One person played in a possession based system.
Another has played and dictated how madrid plays in arguably any system of football.

So how is xavi better?

Ibime:
Yes the percentage of matches where they no longer have majority possession has increased to maybe 5% from 0%

Lmao so a 5% increase from 2014 till 2023 shows that xavi was not the system but part of the system.
So that kills your original point.

Now let's talk midfielder to midfielder.
Who is better?
I have my stats to back up Kroos.
From chances creation to passing completion to final 3rd passes to defensive contributions. He is a controller who plays in the deepest part of the midfield.

What do you have for me for xavi

Emaprince:
Xavi controls the midfield and dictates play, who be kroos? Smh.

Lmaooo...

Kroos controls the midfield and dictates play.
I nor understand.

Ibime:
Kroos that can't win a possession battle against 20% of the teams he faces

Xavi midfield only went below 50% possession in one match from 2006 to 2014. That's 8 years undefeated in midfield work except for one occasion

I see so when xavi was taken out of the system in Barcelona, did they stop winning possession?

Ibime xavi and Kroos, who is a better passer and better midfielder

Omo.
Damn

GrammarNazi1:
I can still remember that it was not even Tinubu who stopped the subsidy; Buhari stopped it by not including it in the last budget right before Tinubu took over, though Tinubu had said that subsidy is gone.

I don't know why some people are even saying it was Tinubu who stopped subsidy when it was stopped by Buhari.

This comment of mine isn't even an approval of this present administration. Therefore, if anyone wants to quote this post of mine, be reasonable.

You Don dey attach "notes" to your support of tinubu?
Lmao you are still abit committed.
Give it another 2 months😁

This is inhaler is now 23k.

You think 600k now is enough?
Lmao... Again you probably never grab how badly expensive the basic things have now become especially as a family man😅.

Let's not forget those things kids will spoil and you'll have to replace😁.

I have never been more grateful for HMO than any other time in my life😂

Ibime:
N500 per litre less than before by my estimation.

So are we spending more or less on subsidy now?

Ibime:
There is nothing to analyse. Even Nairalanders could tell them the effect of what they promised two years ago. They knew the effect on common man before they promised it. It's like amputating a rotten limb, nothing go sweet inside

Are we paying subsidy or not?

Nah.. Femi was dropping dimes!!!

akwesenana:
This one most likely get one idme boy bankrolling her for background.

Walahi, e no get person wey dey sweat for their bread wey fit pray for things to get worsem

He is a doctor

TrebleChamp:
😁
If na this Tinubu period i born my Twins, body for tell me. Nan 1 go finish in 2 days, 100 pack diaper dey finish before a week. How much be diaper now?

Huggies dey do promo.
90 for 7-8k😂

Roland17:
Who does Femi think he is deceiving?

Himself and APC people

Femi is a bad boy

Fashola before apc took over

This was Fashola as Governor and CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER of Lagos State, blaming GEJ for a Robbery that occurred in Lekki.

You can't make this up. https://t.co/jPOW9SLsji pic.twitter.com/GkscVr1pDg

— Sai Ishaya (@Sai_Isshayya_) February 9, 2024

Fashola the super agent after apc

" Nigerians should ask themselves whether they are not expecting too much from Tinubu, what is Tinubu's role on water, house rent, business, etc., they are not his constitutional responsibilities to Nigerians " - Agent Fashola pic.twitter.com/EvRiWwbe13

— ÓMÒÉLÉRÍNJÁRÉ (@omoelerinjare) February 8, 2024

Let's not act like families are not taking loans to augment now.
Salary advance and quick credit on gtb don save people on the short-term.
Lool..
Anyways believe what you want.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]80,000 a day or two days.

That should be fair[/color]

You are short 3k bro

izzou:
[color=royalblue]700k will get you a 2 bedroom in Ikorodu, or deep inside Amuwo



Let me learn![/color]

So how much do you think you'll spend on fuel when you factor in the traffic?

Trevor012:
DSTV Compact - 14K

Data for family - 20K

Offering - 5K 😂

Snacks for kids to school - 16K 😂

😂😂😂

You sef talk nau

Itsrm:
600k might not be enough to sustain the lifestyle of someone who was earning it before, but it's okay to sustain the life style of someone earning 50k before which is where Izzous point comes in. You see it's not absolute.

Look at the breakdown Theflint1 just posted. It's truly not a lot or money in today's Nigeria but its just enough to bet by.

Also please tell us why the 600k isn't enough for someone has that lifestyle.
Make all of us learn

Itsrm:
600k might not be enough to sustain the lifestyle of someone who was earning it before, but it's okay to sustain the life style of someone earning 50k before which is where Izzous point comes in. You see it's not absolute.

Look at the breakdown Theflint1 just posted. It's truly not a lot or money in today's Nigeria but its just enough to bet by.

Going from 50k to 600k is a rarity (I'm talking miracle like winning bet) .
There's almost always a progression which is matched by your expenses.

BlueRayDick:
And also where the car travels to. If papa dey work for V.I or Lekki and he drives the vehicle to work daily, there's no way N60k qill be enough to fuel it per day.

That Black tax of N15k must be for someone who is an orphan with no surviving hanger-ons from his family. Because person wey get papa and mama wey send am go school no go dey send them N15k out of N600k salary o. Except he no get conscience.

Lool.. We will break this down for people who think this money is enough with coat cutting in this current reality.

Theflint1:
60K fit work if you na toyota and car runs dey like around 25 mins max per trip, plus augumenting with bike and keke where necessary (dawan na another money on e own). I fill tank with 30K (tank wasn't empty BTW, but e low) on Sunday, e don drop pass half and I dey do half school run (neighbour does morning) and work from home...my car dey chop fuel, but don't see how a car with good fuel economy no go don chop say 10K this week already.

Your area get traffic?
And how much be the rent for 2bedroom for your area?

Flint I updated my reply to your breakdown

Theflint1:
There's a reason I specified both kids above 3 years

😂😂😂

Theflint1:
600K is a lot of money, but it's not so much really.

TYPICAL MONTHLY EXPENSE FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR ( BOTH KIDS ABOVE 3 YEARS)
NEPA + Fuel for house - 30K
Rent per month (2 bedroom flat) - 65K
Fuel for the family car - 60K
Feeding for family, including base food the kids take to school - 120K
Snacks for kids to school - 16K
Toiletries - 10K
School fees for both kids per month - 50K
Black tax - 15K
Clothing allowance for the family - 20K
DSTV Compact - 14K
Data for family - 20K
House bills - 5K
Car maintenance per month - 10K
Offering - 5K
Miscellaneous - 40K

TOTAL - 480K

I might be forgetting a thing or two, but in my opinion, this should be about monthly expenses for a lower-middle to a proper middle-class family, especially in Lagos (mainlands of mainland ).

Lmao.. The fuel for family car, I'm guessing it's a jeep but let's assume it's a car that 30k can fill the tank so a small economy vehicle. Likely a kia😁

How many times in a month are they filling the tank? 😁? Let's start from there.

65k is a 780k for rent.
So meaning they live in an area that is cheap (using Lagos). Meaning the traffic situation is bad because most cheap areas on the mainland in Lagos usually have traffic issues. See I used most oo.
780k for a 2bedroom flat is a miracle except in Ikorodu, deep inside ago or Festac, even satellite Don
Increase in rent and you'll deal with traffic.
Meaning more fuel consumption 😁

Itsrm:
It's still a much better position. We were just discussing this at work today. That we will prefer a reset to 2018 when we were earning a far lower salary but that lower salary was more than enough. I remember how I'll receive salary at the time and I'll spend and spend, the money no go gree finish.

Now with all the increase, the way the salary dey waka, I don't even understand.

Would you say your current salary is enough or you need to cut your coat so it becomes enough?