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raumdeuter:
This makes sense in many ways. I agree with you so much. If you also read the commentaries by his followers you will see how they were literally mocking some of the ridiculous Dem positions. Not knowing what is wrong is a bad way to start and thinking you couldnt have done anything is a poor thing.

Like I said yesterday many of Trumps top issues were Democrats campaign points for years that they deprioritized for other things

People feel the main issues bothering them are pushed to the back burner for issues that are less important and affect the super minority

This is what give fuel to talking points
For example that Kamala interview on support for Tax payer funded transgender surgeries for imprisoned illegal immigrants. The statement alone has almost 4 things that infuriates an average American. You now have 4 in one statement. In the real world, how many illegal immigrants want tax funded trans surgeries? Maybe a total of 200 if that much. But you choose to upset 100m people and another 70m who will still barely support you even though they shake their heads at that comment.

Do you or any serious person think its okay for trans to play in women sports? These are issues where Dems tie themselves into a knot to appease the fringe and upset the bulk of Americans

Another current issue, many people think there is excessive waste in the country especially in govt, Some agencies have not been audited in years or have failed audits, Some of these include Defence and foreign aids(Something Republicans like and Democrats do not) You have allowed Trump to take over this type of issue from you and Right now Democrats are positioning themselves as the party to block probes into excessive govt waste

Another example, Democrats are calling to fight/resist everywhere including the streets and you are showing people burning American flags while raising foreign flags on US soil

How will it look during a campaign Trump is saying there was waste in govt with pictures of Democrats actively blocking the probes. Or Showing people burning US flags and hoisting foreign flags on American soil

At a point, some people will start asking do you really care about me or just some dumb ideas like this angry guy here

What part of the government was working that you democrats fighting for pic.twitter.com/bt3P0Bo7to

— Ace Smart (@ace225luv) February 3, 2025

I'm laughing so hard at the conversation between you both on these issues. The reason is because I stood for those, said the Dems became too extreme in their policies and all that but it was called a centrist bs lol.

One thing I have learned to do is to give time to issues. It naturally plays out that when someone's right, time will redirect everything to his path.

During the last campaign, I told my wife something. I said, the Dems are doing the mistake Trump made in 2020.

In 2020, Trump focused on some issues that became scary for the neutral voters who thought he was pandering to only his base and it was costly. These neutrals had to tilt towards Biden and the Dems. In the run-up to the last election, the Dems became too extreme with the same extremism that became scary for the neutral voters in the past that they had to vote for Trump. It is important to note that the neutrals in every election are more than supporters of parties. They are the true deciders of elections. Over-pander to a direction and they are gone to the other side.

What did the Dems do after they lost? They began an online war against men, blacks and minorities who voted for Trump. Like they have been in the last 4 years, no convincing, only bullying to make sure you fall in line. Some said they won't have sex in the next 4 years, I wonder if they still hold on to that now.

It was so with the media. How they hounded lots of people who spoke against the system. Why fight opposing voices to the extent of cancelling them or using the social media to block their views if you aren't scared?
It was clearer when Zuckerberg said he would have done things differently now than before. Bezos was attacked for saying his media platform would stay out of picking a side few weeks to the election.

The COVID-19 mandate was so poor. You are a party of my body my choice but you hate the fact that someone was against a vaccine that has an agreement tied to it that whatever happens is not on the company. People were sacked for taking their stand against the vaccine. My question is, where did COVID-19 go at this point? Has it gone completely? Let's just forget the crap talk of herd immunity because most African countries didn't take the vaccine yet they got the same results of herd immunity.

Is it about the LGBTQXYZ issue? How will you allow a child to choose a gender but stop that same child from voting? If he's too young to have a better decision with voting why will that child be too old to choose something as delicate as gender change? Let's not forget the issue of trans in sports. Women were cancelled for speaking out. It even happened to Chimamanda whose event in Germany was cancelled because she spoke for women and they thought she was against Trans. The issue of school having more right than parents about the gender issue of their own children was also another extreme one.

There were lots of things that happened that were extreme, but the media in cohort with the previous administration made them look ordinary. Why will something ordinary cause you to lose an election if it was truly ordinary?

Lastly, the Dems do not try to convince people, they bully. I have seen it here. Imagine you have 4 years to convince a MAGA but you constantly called him names for picking a side, now he voted for same person because he didn't see you different from him.
Make I just stop here.

The above being said, I still think there are some things Trump shouldn't be touching at this point. He's becoming too extreme in my point of view.

Like I said, I will condemn him when he pushes off and I will support his policy when I see it's right for everyone. It doesn't make me a MAGA, I stand as a centrist bs if that's the tag now.

EmperorCaesar:
Two can play the game
I like this strategic retaliation

Where those Trump worshippers?

See as dem dey use your Saner clime pick teeth

China will be licking their lips.

Why waste your funds to be the world leader when your so-called rivals and their allies can destroy themselves due to ego?

America is going down gradually.

Jennyclay:
Who told you Yeye men that a virgin lady makes a good wife . Look at how he even capitalized it. Mtcheww!
Any woman can make your life miserable wether she’s a virgin or not.

Is not as if he’s a virgin either

Bunch of randy men everywhere looking for virgin!!
Shior!!

Lol, but ladies set standards na. Is it wrong for him to do so?


We have to understand that people are different, it's what makes him feel better and he should be respected just like ladies seek for wealthy men to marry even if not all wealthy men will make good husbands.

People should be allowed to do what makes them happy, that's my take in life.

Like I said, I am not a pig so I won't respond to pigs. Some of us know how to separate ourselves from people who lack maturity.

I only respond to humans who are mature enough to engage in discussions, not mental patients who need to fight everyone since that's how they are.

If I don't quote you or respond to you, it means you have been a pig and I cannot reduce myself to that level.

I am not sorry to take this stance if you feel offended.

IMAliyu2:
I believe it was ordinary, yes.

But that wasn't enough not at the moment, I think material conditions since COVID has made people anxious and frustrated, people are experiencing a cost of living crisis, unprecedented rent and housing costs, bloated healthcare costs, and very little increase in wages, proportional to productivity.

The Democrats were offering bandage solutions, "we'll give a marginal tax credit to single moms"
"A tax deduction to new home buyers"
The system works, we just need to tweak it.
These are not necessarily bad, but it just doesn't inspire anyone.

Also the Democrat position on immigration and massaging there was just bad, instead of pushing back on the narrative that millions of criminals are crossing the border and making everywhere unsafe.
(note: there is no data to support this, native born citizens commit most of all crimes, compared to undocumented immigrants, because undocumented immigrants get deported when they do. Aswell as drug smuggling is carried out by citizens, not immigrants for reasons I hope are obvious, the list goes on.)
The Democrats capitulated to trump on the immigration issue, basically admitting that the Republicans are correct on this, and trying to posture as either harder on immigration, or trying to appeal to some niche demographic that wanted republican lite policies, which no one bought.

There are other issues, especially on the Woke, DEI, and LGBTQ front, but I'll keep this short.

Trump's message was "The system is corrupt, I know what's causing all your problems, I will fix it, I will punish those causing your problems, they are your enemy and my enemy, and I'll Make America Great Again." The gist of it.
It's populist, it's succinct. It makes me think he's the main character and add on his charisma, he sounds like someone who means what he says. With non of the technocratic bable.
And you know what, he's actually delivering on those promises, in the eyes of his supporters.

The Democratic party and most especially as a candidate Kamala failed at this. They have lost that spirit of actually having a conviction in something and saying what they believe, and aggressively following through on their promises. To inspire people, not just campaigning on not being the other guy. IMO

I engage in politics enough to attempt to look past the vibes and look at the policies and utilitarian math of which party or candidate is better, but the Dems are terribly failing at the vibe check.

So what have you said that is different from my stance here?

Go and check my posts and see if I didn't handle those things in the past.

I wonder how I am being called names for saying the same things you highlighted.

Wonderful platform.

IMAliyu2:
Critiques of Biden from leftists and some liberals were.
Not being able to deliver on his student loan forgiveness, promise.
His uncritical support and funding of Isreal, as they continued to massacred gazans.
The TikTok ban.
Disbanding the rail worker strike.
His stubbornness being a factor in the lose of the 2024 election.
Outside of these and maybe a few more, Biden's presidency was ordinary and hardly disagreeable.

Kamal lost the election, because she couldn't distance and distinguish herself from from Biden, and lost a lot of leftist and independent votes over it.

Were there any Biden policies you yourself disagreed with? Did you critiqued them, and see if we argeed or not, and why?

You see me asking baslico if he'll condemn the invasion of another country and being unable to give a concise answer, because Trump is a mythological figure he's unable to disagree with, even in a hypothetical.
But somehow it's a bothsides issue, Do you see why I call it centrist bs?

Why should I focus on bas and others views?

I am talking about myself here.

No worries, you do you.

If I may ask, if Biden's policies were ordinary and accepted why will it affect Harris campaign?

Do you know that neutrals play a huge role in the election of a president? Why will neutrals chose Trump over Harris, even with media hype and others if they ran a good regime?

Obama did two terms remember?

When you claim you are civil and knowledgeable but only agree when an argument goes to your direction, it shows you are worse than the people you condemn.

I have seen that a lot here and I can tell that the only difference between who they condemn and then is that they do not have the platform yet.

I can choose to pick up policies to support from any of the divide, I do not need to belong to your cults.

bemeruca:
there are lots of things you guys don't understand.
like just now ibime was talking about tariffs and trade wars like the EU has not been tariffing the hell out of the US for ages. The US wants to be the nice guy everyone will take advantage of. Just because you are hearing a tariff from Trump does not mean it is new. As is said, there has been a 10% tariff on American cars by the EU making their cars not do well while the US only has a 2% tariff on EU cars.

the war in their backyard, they want the US to pay for it. They cannot meet up with their defense mandate. they expect the US to protect them. Look at Canada for example, they barely have an army. if anything happens the US will protect them. that is the mentality they have.

Ok, I like to ask you a question.

If you were made the president of the US today and told to address just the economy, would you choose to tariff everyone at once?

Assuming you are the president in that scenario please.

IMAliyu2:
Ok that's good.

I am concerned that someone like baslico does not think this, or see a problem there.

What sets of values would someone have that this is not immediately clear to them? I'm trying to establish if we even exist in the same reality, or it's reflexive for him that he'll defend trump's actions even in a bad hypothetical.

This is what I have been against that has led to me receiving backlashes.

You can support a party and call out their nonsense instead of supporting everything they do or every policy they put out. That goes for both sides.

You have said that's not enough in your other response to someone that it is a centrist bs. It is your right and choice to see things the way you do but if we holistically look at how the both sides push through all of their agendas here, it is worrisome.

I don't think I have seen anyone claim Biden had a policy that should have not been pushed out in the first place from the Dems camp here, likewise the GOP guys on Trump.

It sets a dangerous precedence because it looks fanatic to me.

IMAliyu2:
I know, his underlying argument is that the left believes a set of things and maga believe a set of things and they both want people to adopt their views, therefore that's bad and they're the same.

It sounds like enlightened centrist bs, and a felicious argument.

It's like being around during the civil rights debate, and saying both the pro and anti sides are the same.
No it's not, your unwillingness to engage and find out the objectives of both sides and make up your mind on which one aligns with your views is on you, and we can also say with history on our side, and with values shared by almost everyone today one side was the good one.

I have called Trump out on EOs I find disturbing, haven't I?

Why must I pick a side when I can tackle issues individually instead of throwing myself to one end?

I have also in times past spoken against the abortion issue and other issues.

Like you said you are new here but have picked your axe to grind about one issue?

It is truly well.

One of the things I find funny is that America knows how to twist words.

We have REBELS when they support a militia trying to change a regime in another country but they become TERRORISTS when they go against their interests.


We have LOBBYISTS in America who can bribe their lawmakers to help contractors, especially defense and other ones but in another country they shout CORRUPTION.

Zelensky said he never received $177b but only $70+ in weapons. So my question is, isn't it corruption to over bloat something like that and yet Congress passes it for Ukraine?

The media has been the BRAINWASHING machinery of the US and British government for decades, one day we will know how far they can go when people are ready to question their news.

IMAliyu2:
Russia poses no threat to the United States, the Ukrainian war has demonstrated how wildly exaggerated their military capabilities are.

Greenland is already an allie, they already allow US military bases there. An agreement for mineral extraction rights can also be made, it's already part of NATO, neither China nor Russia will dare to take them.
Unless through diplomacy and trade agreements, if that were to happen then that's a massive skill issue on the part of the USA.

But Trump being unpredictable and insistence on Greenland joining the USA is the problem. I will not put it past him to attempt to invade, and it's concerning you may see nothing wrong with that.

If Trump ever makes that attempt to invade Greenland, he's a fool who will cost the US most of their allies.

We see how Russia is fairing in Ukraine, not good for them economically and otherwise.

He should focus more on using diplomacy instead of show of force, it won't end well at all for anyone.

raumdeuter:
Make your posts, stand by it. In real life some of these people cannot stand up to you. Dont let the anonymity of the internet allow midgets to tell you what to do

I and many will likely disagree with you many times but surely the sensible ones will do it sensibly

Lol, the real life part is sure.

In reality, I don't even have energy to bother anyone. I don't like crowd, I hate that with passion.

People are deceitful, only want to use you because they know you are good and helpful so they come close for what they will get and not how to be true friends.

I'm only closer to people I have known since I was growing up or those with similar mindset and they are very few.


On issues, I appreciate your genuineness. Life isn't about who's right or wrong but how a proper discussion can lead to a reasonable conclusion. We can kill ourselves and nothing will change but we can also try to make things better by making a discussion to learn and then make better decisions.

I'm waiting for Trump to Bleep up so I can strike you guys to explain to me lol. I am also going to praise him for anything he does that seems better.

Henceforth, I will only respond to people who understand what a public forum is, not lunatics who are insecure about those not supporting their ideologies.


I will make my opinions on issues known and I am not going to support or attack every policy.


If I don't respond to you, understand that it is my right and that you have lost your human nature, I do not respond to pigs.

If I quote you, it means you have shown yourself to be mature enough for a proper discussion.

I am not sorry if you feel offended.

IjeBos:
I don't know what you are droning on about.
Have you made one 'not attempting to be high minded', 'not both-sides' comment since you started posting?

Enjoy yourself.

IjeBos:
You are literally talking about which side is right while Trump is destroying the US government, starting a trade war with allies and attackign dead pilots on the basis that they may have been black or women and that's why they caused the accident?

You are not informed not thoughtful enough to have an opinion.. I care about.
Pack well.

Enjoy yourself if that's what makes you happy.

I will call Trump out when I see his wrongs but whenever I see what he's doing right, I will also say it.

I have always spoken against his EOs that I find very worrying but that's not enough for you until I insult his supporters here?

One cannot be blanket right or wrong all the time.

raumdeuter:
You dont have to leave here that is going to be you allowing them to bully you off here

Post whatever you want, No one is paying for your data or your phone

Truth is that I asked my boss a question leading to the election. "Jon, who will you vote in the coming election"?

He said, "haha, not sure I'd vote".

He worked with the government, an exchange military and a very sensitive department in the military intelligence agency before he resigned to build his company.

For someone who knows how the intelligence agencies operate, he said there are good and bad to both sides.

Will he be crucified because he chose to not engage in elections? Isn't it his right?

I wonder how some people behave here.

IjeBos:
This helps with my point.
Your idiom was WRONG.
There is no middle ground to it. It was WRONG.
It's not a matter of perception or different view.
It was wrong.
Not all things have a middle ground and when you pretending they do makes you sound like an idiot.

And FYI.
Not everything is broken down to sides.
You keep saying your side or other side.
This is not a football match.

You see?
Not everything is broken down to sides yet you weren't okay when I said I was independent on issues.

Tell me which party is 100% right or wrong at all times?

Isn't that where independents come in?

IjeBos:
Again, here you go talking without a full understanding.
You seem to do that alot.
You might want to go review his posts.

And it's weird what your view of what attacking is.
Basilico writes 100's of posts weekly spreading lies in which he is hoping people get locked up or arrested and somehow because you think(wrongly) he doesn't attack people that makes it ok?
Who does more harm to society, the people who spread lies that lead to being dying and getting hurt or the people who call that person out and call him an idiot?

I do not care about what you think, you don't care about discussions, all you do is attack which is uncivil and childish.

I am not sure you care about diplomacy, you are very extreme with your ideas and that's your right and choice but trying to push with subtle shades when someone is of different views is worrisome.

raumdeuter:
Which is why Basil is a better person and never to be compared to the lunatic ijebos

That one is even avoided by his own party supporters because he's gone.

I'm done here, too many hypocrites in one thread.

IjeBos:
The expression is roll in the mud with pigs.
Geez.

Actually yes, you understand what you are.

Please seek help, I have told you before. From your responses to people, all you do is to attack them for having different views or ideas, very primitive and childish.

Even those who support same party as you avoid your posts because they understand what you are. It's a shame that you do not see it.

raumdeuter:
Bingo. Everything you said here is on point.

Kudos to you. Now the name calling will start. They will start calling you names. Dont let them bully you and your opinions. you have a right to them

I got the bullet but I don't care.

I wonder how they will act towards the independents and libertarians in the US though.

Being bullied, if You've met me offline you'd have known that I'm more brutal in person than online.

I don't engage in online wars because it's needless. One can only express his views and log out to face reality.

raumdeuter:
Actually basilco is better, where do you see basil attack anyone for their views?

I was referring to conspiracy though.

Basillico has never attacked anyone even when attacked.

cococandy:
This is the same nonsense you were chatting when they asked you to provide an example of a liberal policy that’s extreme. Of course you went silent because you had nothing.

Wanna be neutral so bad you’re starting to look foolish. Pls miss me with the no nonsense. I don’t have time to coddle your feelings.

Did you not see the points I dropped and how he ignored everything but I lying hammered on the keystone issue I didn't attend to despite the fact that I said I was tired due to me clocking out of my shift that night?

It is easier to call names but if you look at the mirror, you will see that you are worse than the people you condemn.

I was wrong about one thing though, basillico is better than you in every way.

You poured out conspiracy about how Vance is the one to be used, etc and I called you out only for you to respond with tantrums like someone who got slapped in the streets.

Your views are more extreme than the other side because you guys aggressively push towards a direction but ignore the fact that there are other sides to issues.
SMH

cococandy:
This is easy to say when you’re supporting evil
This is not about picking sides. It’s not a debate. Or a friendly match.It’s people lives and livelihoods.

I was right. This here is just talk for you guys. You have no stake. That why you can post anything and think you deserve a civil response.

Basil was just asked if he would support Trump invading the EU. And he all but said yes. Imagine if someone whose life would be impacted by such an invasion or someone who could even lose their life in such an invasion was reading it? You expect them to sit down and have a nice chat with him about why the invasion is a light issue that ends on Nairaland. For you it’s a difference in opinion. For the people whose lives you’re so nonchalantly discussing, it’s financial ruin, insecurity and possible war they are not interested in being a part of.

You have no depth. It’s almost bordering on stupidity if such simple concepts have to be explained to you.

Pls fvck off too. And stay ignored.

So-called liberal, tell me how your views are different from the same people you condemn?

IjeBos:
Seems you actually do have a side.
You guys always reveal yourselves.



Yes, I don't discuss with certain people.
Should I try to have a discussion with Basilico who spends his days and nights posting mentally unbalanced posts or maybe with someone like Bemeruca who pretends he lives in the US? What would I be discussing with them?

And you did not respond to my comments because you couldn't cuz you weren't capable.
What you are capable of is false equivalencies and pretending you're a rational person because you can stand in the middle between US Democracy and a guy who wants to crater it and what it stand for.
Tell me what is the middle position of 'Black people and Women aren't capable of doing the jobs what White men can' and 'Black people and women are capable of doing jobs White men can' ?
There is none, just the fight for equality. Not everything has a middle position.



1.) If you say something I find egregious I'll tell you so, that's how forums work.
2.)You are opening your mouth about a side wanting people to walk their path, yet seem to miss the people who want to oppress people with their religion. Funny.
I don't need anyone to walk my path. I do need people to live in the reality that we all do. You can believe whatever you want but don't come here and make up things to bolster your views just like you did.
If you want to believe Biden was extreme, have facts to back it up. Don't just pull out bullshit you heard on right wing media you can't even explain nor understand.

Again, you don't even understand the issues well enough to start talking about what is wrong.
But keep pretending you do.

I do not swim in the mud with pigs.

cococandy:
You missed your chance to be neutral.
If you were an adult 12-16 years ago, that was the time to be neutral because you could point out the good and bad of both sides like you are so eager to do.

What you’re doing now is the equivalent of someone walking by two individuals. One is setting another person on fire and the other is yelling at a kid. Instead of prioritizing the immediate danger, stands there to lecture both people because apparently setting someone on fire is equal to yelling at a child.

If you’re telling me that you can’t see how the party set on ruining American institutions is the worse option, then you’re not a serious person.
At least be proudly Republican.

The whole reason for being neutral is that you can be swayed by the good or bad decision of either side. In a good Republican election with a good candidate, you vote and support them. And same when there’s a good democrat candidate and policies. Neutrality doesn’t require you to close your eye and keep your “neutral” stance while one side is actively burning everything to the ground

Check your views on this write up and tell me you are better than a MAGA in one the red States.

You are a fascist and you don't see it yet because you have pinned your head inside the sand, buried yourself inside the cemetery of self righteousness and think everyone who does not flow in your direction at all times is not your friend.

Almost of those who claim to be liberal here are very much same with you.
No difference between you and basillico in every aspect, just different sides of same coin.

IjeBos:
Honestly, you do a lot of speaking, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of in-depth thought behind it.
You assume that your view of what is wrong means that something is wrong.
But your views are shallow. Made without an understating of the things you speak.

It's not your fault, as some of this stuff is highly complicated and interdependent and harder to understand esp. if you don't have an understanding of US history.
And it's harder if you get your news from Twitter and Facebook.

But I've tried not to judge that lack of understanding but you continue to come at my with your bothsidism and view that somehow you are superior because you are in the middle of both liberals and conservatives.
It's a childish stance.
And makes any real discussion impossible.

Take some time and think about why you believe what you believe and what those principles are based on.
And maybe you'll start to understand.

Sorry, for the terse post, I don't have a lot of patience with political newbies who think they have all the understanding there is yet continue to do the false equivalency nonsense.
If you can't see the singular danger of the moment we are in now and somehow believe it is equal to Biden's presidency, you aren't capable of offering a perspective that is thoughtful or insightful.
Pax.

I am never one who see myself as superior, I have always stood up for what I believed in and that's my right. My views are my views. Even in the US, there are independents and they choose what side to ally with based on policies at every time, so why's my own different?

You cannot claim to be liberal but force others to pick sides with you.

From my observation here, you guys are hypocrites, you believe someone must stand for your views even when they are not right and that's fascism. You try to convince them that people from other parties and policies are blanket bad which is in itself same thing as what you condemn.

The other guys here do not force anyone to believe them or support what they support, that's why they seem to be better than you guys. I have spoken against their policies but they never responded with shades or attacks.

You especially, do not engage in discussions on this thread, you always attack someone for a different view. I saw the subtle shades you threw in the other responses you gave to me but I ignored because they are childish, I did not also respond because I do not operate like a pig as I am not a pig.

You do not need to respond to my views, ignore them and scroll to the next.

Like I said, there is no difference between what your group does and what the other guys do. If anything, you guys are worse off because you want everyone to walk your path even when they are wrong.

cococandy:
Trump has never been pro freedom of speech but they ran on it and his followers ate it up. They hated that they couldn’t be free to be discriminatory against whomever they wished so they made it all our problem.

The thing that’s fundamentally wrong with the USA is the same thing that’s your problem right now.

You see something bad happening and you want to both sides it to remain neutral. I’m sure there were people who saw how America was headed to the abyss on a republican train but chose not to vote because the dems have some imperfections too. When they ask them to state what makes dems as bad as Trump, they can’t cite a single tangible reason.

Hug your need to be neutral. Its not helping anyone or anything.

You see why I will never wear the coat of any of the two parties? You guys are the same coin, just different sides. You attack those who do not speak your language, either independents or libertarians, just to win is the goal.

You guys care only "for or against" and not everyone will get in line with that.

I can call out what's wrong and also applaud what is right in policies from both sides.

Even in the US, there are independents and libertarians who will speak for or against anything that is wrong.

Or isn't it my right to have an opinion anymore?

cococandy:
A few weeks ago y’all were pro “freedom of speech”

Now you’re rejoicing the president is attacking the media.

Trump has never been pro freedom of speech. He tried to fight against free speech before he lost the 2020 election.

Something is fundamentally wrong in the US at the moment, I don't know if the population know but China will lick their lips for what's happening from one regime to another.

FarmlandInc:
Most of Trump nominations are full of DEIs, Hegseth, Tusli, Patel, JFK Jr he didn't nominate them for their smartness, but their fealty to him

That RFK guy is not smart at all.

I watched his interview, he evaded so many questions and also spoke like someone who's not informed.

IjeBos:
I'm a registered Independent.
If you can't see the difference between the republican and democratic parties, you are not an independent.

You are not an independent, you cannot be. I haven't seen anything here from you that expresses that.

Independents don't get to the edge of both the liberals and conservatives, they know what is good on both sides and embrace while speaking out against those things/policies that are wrong.

Like I said, no difference between you guys and the GOP supporters here.