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supersystemsnig:
Forced into a state of deep internal reflection..Lots of people have been edifying me online on a few bothering issues. I've been dealing with some internal problems i left to linger that has caused me significant damages. I.e depression

Cheer up dude. It's very easy to get confused online ooh. But anyway, What could be depression "might" be a rising awareness or awakening inside. It only partially represent reality and besides you have the courage to acknowledge IT and will not make yourself believe the opposite just to feel good like others.

supersystemsnig:
I'm back. Let's bring the life back to this thread...Let's discuss

Where ya been

Maduawuchukwu:
Life is largely subjective.

Sure. Multiple sources of individual subjective and objective experience/evidence should converge to strong conclusions of what life truly should be.

iyisco2001:
Let me talk about my own perspective of simplicity.

A man who has a house in Ibadan, living life free of traffic, has a fair job, has family, compared to a man who is in lagos, 1/4 of his days are spent in traffic and doesnt even know what his family is like. Who is more happy?

Everything about the human experience is perspective. Sometimes people have everything and they are still sad. Some people don't have much but actively seek happiness in what they do have. Didn't get the rest of your post ooh

supersystemsnig:
Simply called Chaos

I'm not sure if I got your drift. Kindly make clear.

supersystemsnig:

Hehe... Good times

supersystemsnig:
So with constant cultivation and improvisation comes development. This is key to growth, stability and development...Then why is our nation on its knees? What is not started is not developed...what is not started is not mastered....We only perfect what we start

What is wrong with introducing some chaos into society? It's only natural. But it becomes pestilence when the widespread is way too much.

Growth, Stability and Development can be subjective, objective, relative or absolute. What really happened was that somehow we got stuck learning how to bridge all these contradictions into ONE.

mrphysics:
You are right. That is why I go by the political science definition of truth. Truth is defined as the state of things that exist.

Yes. In terms of truth as known by the mind through analytical reason. I think probably mathematical truth is about the closest we get to something irrefutable. Once the terms are understood and agreed upon, 2+2=4 is very hard to dispute.

Yet, would this mean attempting to define truth through the conditioned intellect of any individual? For instance, political truth, business truth, mathematical truth, other truth etc etc. This is a futile pursuit as all the interpretations of truth is bound to be conditioned and hence bound to differ from person to person and even personally change with time through changes in one's conditioning. To seek Truth is to lose ALL the labels.

This brand of Truth is to be experientially understood, not intellectually defined and comprehended as that would be as futile as a dog trying to catch its own tail. That was why I said earlier that the source is okay, the channel is the problem.

IMHO

supersystemsnig:
Don't let them say we politicize the subject, however good will alone is not enough. It has to be holistic, and such task must be carried upon the shoulders of visionaries who made a sense of direction and were strong enough to lead others on that path. When a man complains of his tools, is he efficient?

My apologies for digressing. The task is so funny that between the tool, the tool box, and the tool man, one can't just say who is efficient and who is not.

supersystemsnig:
So with constant cultivation and improvisation comes development. This is key to growth, stability and development...Then why is our nation on its knees?

Bro the state of the nation is a different digest ooh

supersystemsnig:
It goes on and on and on.. We become losers when we lose hope,even in the sight of complete failure..What is hope without failure...Without failure, there's no need for hope. Infact,we are winners once we can hope when there's nothing substantive to place value on...This is when we are winners

Another good example of a loser would be someone who willfully ignores the proven security risk posed by a certain presidential candidate, and then proceeds to defend the character of that candidate using notorious vuvuzelas despite being shown absolute proof of their willful, gross negligence...

Quite honestly, You said it all.

But I digress.

supersystemsnig:
Maturity is learning new experiences and nt been rooted to just past experiences alone. People who are open to new experiences are seldom dissapointed because they have learnt to build the road as they walk over the path in front of them

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

One's rational understanding of Maturity is therefore modified from minute to minute as one works on it and sees that a new and different version of maturity has more better pristine relevance. One doesn’t cling to old sticky ideas. Maturity isn’t static, It’s not a set of ideas you have to either fight or resign yourself to. It’s made up, in part, of ideas that are expected to grow as you grow, and as we all grow, century after century.

Maturity is like a train. A train really "isn’t" a train if it can’t go anywhere. Maturity is always going somewhere good on a track called Truth. Everyone has a different idea of what maturity and immaturity is. The KEY here is the channel whichever brand one choose to brandish because one's maturity could be another's narrow mindedness.

supersystemsnig:
What makes one a loser... This is deep, we can exhaust days and weeks on this...

Wow..i'm coming, let me think...

Sounds like an offer I can't refuse... I'll accept it.

mrphysics:
People don't want to be told the truth. They want you to tell them what they like to hear. They want to feel good even when they know who they are.

I also think that people see truth differently because everyone is coming from a different set of life experience, so they have different perspectives too.

This explains why different people everywhere arrive at different ratings of truth. They all have relatively different backgrounds and knowledge. In a sense it’s the people’s choice of truth that defines them.

People differ about truth, not because truth is different, but because people are different in terms of experience. If two people had identical match/experience, they would see truth identically every time.

BUT... there's Truth (with a capital T), something that comes with experience and not just a thought. Just like the Laws of Physics which aren't what someone "defines" them to be at any given time. They are what they are, and would and will be that way till the end of time, whether any intelligent observer is there to corroborate them or not.

mrphysics:
So when the result comes out, they fail. That's reality.

Of course, Reality is what we see, hear, smell, feel and taste.

mrphysics:
They prefer to be called losers. They lead a simple life.

I'm inclined to agree. But what makes one a loser anyway?

supersystemsnig:
Very true @ you as a loser for having no job for example

What do you think about Intelligence without character, Power without passion ?

Lately, I've been paying special attention to people I find around me in an attempt to know them more and the people that exemplified real intelligence with character etc in my life never announced that they were. Ever. I discovered that they were by fortune. They didn't have to preach it--they lived it. I admire the type.

supersystemsnig:
May God add more

You too.

AND...Sometimes when people have a different lifestyle or view, others call them ignorant or knowledgeable.

Sometimes too what mixes as Money, Wisdom, Knowledge or Ignorance is 100% subjectively based (like when others would see you as a loser for having no job for example, or when you have criminal friends who would call you a winner for closing a successful coke deal). Cheers.

supersystemsnig:
Source okay, channel the problem..lol..like friends

Well what I meant was that, (Knowledge, Wisdom and Money) sources are wasted, when not put to uses/channels that are creative, considerate and compassionate.

The VALUE of anything is what you can do with whether good or evil.

supersystemsnig:
Knowledge is good, but it takes wisdom to dish out as appropriate my brother.

The source is okay, the channel is where the problem is.

thesicilian:
There's no field of human endeavor that has not been corrupted by evil elements.

I agree.

People are primarily human individuals, not their religious affiliation. So when you wonder how can a supposedly good christian do nasty things you just keep in mind they're subject to the same stuff other people are: jealousy, greed, trauma, urges etc. etc. etc.

To primarily see them as a devout christian and hold it against them when they too act upon primal urges, like hey you're a christian, why does this happen?? is rather funny to me. It's not that they become immune to anything or receive an unlimited amount of discipline out of their faith or something.

BlaqCoffee109:
Do i suspect sarcasm?Anyways,i will not reduce things of such nature and consequences hereon...i can only give pointers

Alright. But why give only pointers? Maybe poor choice of words suggesting sarcasm to you. I don't think that was premeditated though. Don't mind the funny feeling and simply share the procedure.

Ashibelieve:
Hmmm if I ask you some questions you will know it didn't really work o. But lemme be going to church first. Lol

Let me ask you some questions too.

At 5, Your child that is too old to spank always...

1. Running around a restaurant and throwing food.

2. Refusing to have medical/dental check up.

3. Throwing a temper tantrum for not getting something they want in a store.

4. Refusing to go to school.

5. Being rude to teachers.

There are 5 examples right there....what would a parent do in these situations...reason with them? yeah....right.

BlaqCoffee109:
HE chooses to manifest HIMSELF to a very hungry,desperate and poor heart( poor here does not pertain to earthly description of poverty,but a Soul that seem not satisfied with their current spiritual reality and is willing to let go of former experiences to let go to press on to know more of HIM)...or i can lead you in an ancient procedure in approaching HIS Presence(this is more of a risk.

Go ahead with telling about this risky ancient procedure please.

BlaqCoffee109:
*Smiles* HE Dwells in light unapproachable...but the mystery about godliness is that HE has manifest HIS Godhead that HE might relate with us

Sure, But how will you inform the op the essence of HIS Godhead or how HIS Godhead is manifested that he might relate with us?

Just drop all these futuristic efforts and have tremendous respect for each moment.

Billyonaire:
Is there any way I can meet this God you talk about during Soul Travel ? can you give me cordinates even frequency of the dimension this entity is located ?

Question not directly to me though but...

Whenever you see a rose flower and you say, ’It is beautiful,’ what do you mean? You cannot go to the scientist to dissect the rose and find whether it contains beauty or not. It does not contain it; the beauty is not contained in the rose.

Have you ever seen the light itself? No, you have never seen it. You have seen lighted things, you have not seen light itself. If there is nothing for the light to play upon, you will not be able to see it.

You cannot meet God, you can see only the consequence of God. My thoughts.

BlaqCoffee109:
in the realm of the spirit there are no sexes,we just are...By design and a matter of functionality we assume the role of the sexes her on this plane...but there are some principalities or power that pervert this for dark reasons

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BlaqCoffee109:
in the realm of the spirit there are no sexes,we just are...By design and a matter of functionality we assume the role of the sexes her on this plane...but there are some principalities or power that pervert this for dark reasons

Exactly. No sexes in the realm of the spirit. Jesus said, ’When your two eyes become one there will be light.’

You must have come across the statement of John the Baptist. He used to say to his disciples, ’I baptize you with water. After me shall come one who will baptize you with fire.’

Water always goes downward, hence it represents an outward flow. It goes away from itself. Its journey is an exterior journey. Fire goes upward, always upward. And upward is synonymous with the inward. Its journey is always interior.

John the Baptist is saying: I am baptizing you with water, I am giving you the outer body, the outer baptism. After me will come Christ who will give you the inner baptism, the baptism of fire.

And when the two eyes, when these two baptisms, when the two hemispheres of your brains are joined together, are absolutely bridged and you become one, that oneness is what makes you whole.

truthsayer009:
The deed has been done already, When your son is back from school. Pls Beat the crap out of him & leave marks ...Yeah i said that !!!

Ewww...

Billyoniare, Well OF COURSE, As is the case with solving almost any problem in the world, First, you need few right thinking individuals teaching the right things and asking the right questions (which some folks are already doing) before you solve stuff.

Here, It's always been hard shifting from inventor to copy cat, and I don't expect it to get any easier. We're still reaping the benefits today. You're talking about very different skill sets. Thank for your time as you're equally right.

Billyonaire:
I agree that it is all experience, but some experiences are useless. Which means for some, they will live and die, with an experience which when they finally awake from this mental trapping then they will realize they just wasted a lifetime pursuing something not worth a piece of shit.

While I get your point, I can assure you that no experience in life is inherently useless because it must benefit someone if not you.

True, The problem with school is they decide where you should be smart and that's like saying we should all be the same, get the same marks and so on which seems like a group conditioning. You may want to avoid that and pick what you like on the Internet and even concentrate on it. Sure, Reading books and stuff on the Internet is good, but it doesn't even come close to replacing what you will learn taking a class at a university. Why??

Take for example if you wanted to teach yourself how to build furniture, You can learn a TON from reading books and looking at the Internet, but if you have a master craftsman (equivalent of a scholar in academia) teaching you then you learn all that and so much more in a matter of no time in comparison.

So, It would depend on what you will like to do in your heart because some things cannot be taught to one self on their own, yet many things can.

My point is that although the Internet is a great resource tool, you must be able to validate the Internet Material presented as fact in a class. That's the only way. So, your tenors suggesting Classroom Anti-Intellectualism is unhealthy.

Indenturing oneself that most classroom dropouts end up being inventors of repute and big income spenders could be a myth. There are hidden stories to their reputable invents and I think it's not a waste of time that you will agree with me.

If you attend a class with the attitude that you will use the environment to increase your knowledge and improve your mind, and then make every attempt to do so, you will never loose, as you will have developed a strong mind and powerful will that can be used in whatever situation you find yourself in. The "piece of paper" or degree is not what is needed, what has been learned is what is needed which is to broaden your understanding of the world, present multiple ideas and teachings from many different cultures, teach you to think in non-dogmatic ways, and increase your understanding of society and the individuals that comprise it, including yourself.

The University Degree in Nigeria is only a representation of what is supposed to have been learned.