supersystemsnig:

Don't let them say we politicize the subject, however good will alone is not enough. It has to be holistic, and such task must be carried upon the shoulders of visionaries who made a sense of direction and were strong enough to lead others on that path. When a man complains of his tools, is he efficient?

My apologies for digressing. The task is so funny that between the tool, the tool box, and the tool man, one can't just say who is efficient and who is not.

you guys come dey talk of deactivating.
Abeg.
Let me talk about my own perspective of simplicity.
Mind you, I am not an advocate of poverty, lol.
A complex system : A complex system is any system featuring a large number of interacting components (agents, processes, etc.)
whose aggregate activity is nonlinear (not derivable from the summations of the activity of individual components) and typically exhibits hierarchical self-organization under selective pressures.
I always say happiness is a factor of illusion of your mind.
A man who has a house in Ibadan, living life free of traffic, has a fair job, has family, compared to a man who is in lagos, 1/4 of his days are spent in traffic and doesnt even know what his family is like.
Who is more happy?

mrphysics:

You are right. That is why I go by the political science definition of truth. Truth is defined as the state of things that exist.

Yes. In terms of truth as known by the mind through analytical reason. I think probably mathematical truth is about the closest we get to something irrefutable. Once the terms are understood and agreed upon, 2+2=4 is very hard to dispute.

Yet, would this mean attempting to define truth through the conditioned intellect of any individual? For instance, political truth, business truth, mathematical truth, other truth etc etc. This is a futile pursuit as all the interpretations of truth is bound to be conditioned and hence bound to differ from person to person and even personally change with time through changes in one's conditioning. To seek Truth is to lose ALL the labels.

This brand of Truth is to be experientially understood, not intellectually defined and comprehended as that would be as futile as a dog trying to catch its own tail. That was why I said earlier that the source is okay, the channel is the problem.

IMHO

livingseed:


My apologies for digressing. The task is so funny that between the tool, the tool box, and the tool man, one can't just say who is efficient and who is not.

Lol @ My apologies for digressing. The task is so funny that between the tool, the tool box, and the tool man, one can't just say who is efficient and who is not.

You're super good with dark sayings...You must me Job's re-incarnate...

livingseed:


Yes. In terms of truth as known by the mind through analytical reason. I think probably mathematical truth is about the closest we get to something irrefutable. Once the terms are understood and agreed upon, 2+2=4 is very hard to dispute.

Yet, would this would mean attempting to define truth through the conditioned intellect of any individual? For instance, political truth, business truth, mathematical truth, other truth etc etc. This is a futile pursuit as all the interpretations of truth is bound to be conditioned and hence bound to differ from person to person and even personally change with time through changes in one's conditioning. To seek Truth is to lose ALL the labels.

This brand of Truth is to be experientially understood, not intellectually defined and comprehended as that would be as futile as a dog trying to catch its own tail. That was why I said earlier that the source is okay, the channel is the problem.

IMHO

What can I said again. You nailed it bro

mrphysics:

What can I said again. You nailed it bro

I'm enjoying this spot i swear...All of a sudden this thread has removed the desire to quit the forum from my heart..the sweetness from all these posts is just way too much

supersystemsnig:


I'm enjoying this spot i swear...All of a sudden this thread has removed the desire to quit the forum from my heart..the sweetness from all these posts is just way too much

True. So many knowledge have been poured out here.

mrphysics:

True. So many knowledge have been poured out here.

Let's take it phase and talk on issues subject by subject

supersystemsnig:

So with constant cultivation and improvisation comes development. This is key to growth, stability and development...Then why is our nation on its knees? What is not started is not developed...what is not started is not mastered....We only perfect what we start

What is wrong with introducing some chaos into society? It's only natural. But it becomes pestilence when the widespread is way too much.

Growth, Stability and Development can be subjective, objective, relative or absolute. What really happened was that somehow we got stuck learning how to bridge all these contradictions into ONE.

supersystemsnig:

Hehe... Good times

livingseed:


What is wrong with introducing some chaos into society? It's only natural. But it becomes pestilence when the widespread is way too much.

Growth, Stability and Development can be subjective, objective, relative or absolute. What really happened was that somehow we got stuck learning how to bridge all these contradictions into ONE.

Need I say, couldnt agree more.
No one can master all, we are all supposed to be specialized in different field.

livingseed:


What is wrong with introducing some chaos into society? It's only natural. But it becomes pestilence when the widespread is way too much.

Growth, Stability and Development can be subjective, objective, relative or absolute. What really happened was that somehow we got stuck learning how to bridge all these contradictions into ONE.

Simply called Chaos

supersystemsnig:

Simply called Chaos

I'm not sure if I got your drift. Kindly make clear.

livingseed:


I'm not sure if I got your drift. Kindly make clear.

All of these simply became chaos @ Growth, Stability and Development can be subjective, objective, relative or absolute. What really happened was that somehow we got stuck learning how to bridge all these contradictions into ONE. ..... And finding the way out of complexiites becomes even more chaotic...Simplicity is golden

iyisco2001:

Let me talk about my own perspective of simplicity.

A man who has a house in Ibadan, living life free of traffic, has a fair job, has family, compared to a man who is in lagos, 1/4 of his days are spent in traffic and doesnt even know what his family is like. Who is more happy?

Everything about the human experience is perspective. Sometimes people have everything and they are still sad. Some people don't have much but actively seek happiness in what they do have. Didn't get the rest of your post ooh

iyisco2001:
you guys come dey talk of deactivating.
Abeg.
Let me talk about my own perspective of simplicity.
Mind you, I am not an advocate of poverty, lol.
A complex system : A complex system is any system featuring a large number of interacting components (agents, processes, etc.)
whose aggregate activity is nonlinear (not derivable from the summations of the activity of individual components) and typically exhibits hierarchical self-organization under selective pressures.
I always say happiness is a factor of illusion of your mind.
A man who has a house in Ibadan, living life free of traffic, has a fair job, has family, compared to a man who is in lagos, 1/4 of his days are spent in traffic and doesnt even know what his family is like.
Who is more happy?

We evidently have a club of sounded-minded individuals here.. My eyes are teary...


Lol @ A man who has a house in Ibadan, living life free of traffic, has a fair job, has family, compared to a man who is in lagos, 1/4 of his days are spent in traffic and doesnt even know what his family is like.


Trust me, the man that stays in Sambisa and is self-sufficient, is better than the guy in the metropol that spends half his day in traffic and half of his salary on transportation cost. Excellent point bro

livingseed:


Everything about the human experience is perspective. Sometimes people have everything and they are still sad. Some people don't have much but actively seek happiness in what they do have. Didn't get the rest of your post ooh

Lol @ Sometimes people have everything and they are still sad., this is the worst thing that can happen in life. That a man can work but not eat from his labour...What is sweetness, that we can work and eat from our labor and be satisfied from our hardwork. This is the definition of a rich man to me.. Any other definition of a rich man is highly welcome.

mrphysics:

True. So many knowledge have been poured out here.

What are your thoughts on simplicity brov ?

livingseed:


Everything about the human experience is perspective. Sometimes people have everything and they are still sad. Some people don't have much but actively seek happiness in what they do have. Didn't get the rest of your post ooh

Na livingseed, e go germinate

mrphysics:

What can I said again. You nailed it bro

Good afternoon, oga boss. Wanted to inform you that I'm available for writing projects. I could drop my contact details if required.

Thanks.

Aeker:


Good afternoon, oga boss. Wanted to inform you that I'm available for writing projects. I could drop my contact details if required.

Thanks.

No problem bro. I will soon have one

mrphysics:

No problem bro. I will soon have one

Alright, sir. I'll be expecting your mention.

Thank you.

mrphysics:

No problem bro. I will soon have one

I'm back. Let's bring the life back to this thread...Let's discuss

livingseed:


Yes. In terms of truth as known by the mind through analytical reason. I think probably mathematical truth is about the closest we get to something irrefutable. Once the terms are understood and agreed upon, 2+2=4 is very hard to dispute.

Yet, would this mean attempting to define truth through the conditioned intellect of any individual? For instance, political truth, business truth, mathematical truth, other truth etc etc. This is a futile pursuit as all the interpretations of truth is bound to be conditioned and hence bound to differ from person to person and even personally change with time through changes in one's conditioning. To seek Truth is to lose ALL the labels.

This brand of Truth is to be experientially understood, not intellectually defined and comprehended as that would be as futile as a dog trying to catch its own tail. That was why I said earlier that the source is okay, the channel is the problem.

IMHO

That is why I don't take arguments about the existence or non-existence of God seriously. These things cannot be proven or disproven satisfactorily. One will believe or disbelieve based on his experience in life. Life is largely subjective.

Maduawuchukwu:

Life is largely subjective.

Sure. Multiple sources of individual subjective and objective experience/evidence should converge to strong conclusions of what life truly should be.

supersystemsnig:

I'm back. Let's bring the life back to this thread...Let's discuss

Where ya been

livingseed:


Where ya been

Forced into a state of deep internal reflection..Lots of people have been edifying me online on a few bothering issues. I've been dealing with some internal problems i left to linger that has caused me significant damages. I.e depression

supersystemsnig:

Forced into a state of deep internal reflection..Lots of people have been edifying me online on a few bothering issues. I've been dealing with some internal problems i left to linger that has caused me significant damages. I.e depression

Cheer up dude. It's very easy to get confused online ooh. But anyway, What could be depression "might" be a rising awareness or awakening inside. It only partially represent reality and besides you have the courage to acknowledge IT and will not make yourself believe the opposite just to feel good like others.

livingseed:


Cheer up dude. It's very easy to get confused online ooh. But anyway, What could said to be depression "might" be a rising awareness or awakening inside. It only partially represent reality and besides you have the courage to acknowledge IT and will not make yourself believe the opposite just to feel good like others.

I agree with you @ awareness or awakening inside..Anyway, issues in the past i left to linger for too long.It's time to kill this beast so i don't remain contaminated..

supersystemsnig:

I agree with you @ awareness or awakening inside..Anyway, issues in the past i left to linger for too long.It's time to kill this beast so i don't remain contaminated..

Are you afraid of death or killing the beast? Better give the beast the most painful death possible so you can reclaim your peace and comfort.

livingseed:


Are you afraid of death or killing the beast? Better give the beast the most painful death possible so you can reclaim your peace and comfort.

Nah, i've faced many trying challenges...The beast is stripping me of priced relationships, that's what's eating me up, i need to deal with it once and for all...Searching for more answers, imbibed the ones i have been supplied with though

supersystemsnig:
Nah, i've faced many trying challenges...The beast is stripping me of priced relationships, that's what's eating me up, i need to deal with it once and for all...Searching for more answers, imbibed the ones i have been supplied with though

Well, I hope everything is alright now. Sounds like a complicated situation. By all means one need to keep learning how the universe really work, what the probabilities are, but recognise that it is statistical and that does mean not always predictably consistent.

The odds CAN be improved.