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Dawn91:
Yorubas organize an award = Yorubas give their brother awards

Nwaikpe:
Israel is a country of Gods people.

If you disbelieve me, try to join hamas.

Blazetrailer:
Lol, you keep dancing in circles

It is a trait of dafts to keep demanding for things that are unreasonable and unattainable while hoping one day someone will listen to them. The red indians of Dakota and other Cherokee tribes learnt that in a hard way. They are losers of today in present day America. If you dont have might, all plea for reparations are in vain. Get up, fix your issues and develop yourselves first.

Keep demanding for development and monetary reparations....while you voted clueless leaders...ode!

Keep demanding for it, when you are about to die, pass it on to your children to continue to demand for it while voting in thieves as leaders. Oponu!!

Blazetrailer:
unfortunately for you, I am not even anywhere near the place you think I am from. It is typical of retard to think alongside the tribes/religion/other irrelevance when arguing. It is weak. I am not from same tribe as Kalu.

As for the rest of your gibberish about my progress or location, as irrelevant as those are to the points of engagement, I am glad to know your are once again wrong. Keep making foolish assumptions. Just as you assumed any serious person will listen to your cry for handouts while you keep voting thieves into power.

You are "demanding" for reparations, right? OK, keep sitting down on your lazy bum and continue to beg for handouts....oponu!!!

Blazetrailer:
Lol...wonders shall never end. I can extract it from your revised position below that what you are invariably "demanding" for is reparation and coated in the form of ODAs

Now that you have admitted you were asking for reparations, brother, take it from me, no serious country will even pretend to listen to you. Do you know how many years the call for reparation for Africa have been going? Take it, no serious country will give you shishi!

Get your ass off the chair and go work hard. Lazy bum!

As for your other foaming in the mouth, I disregard it. Its not worth my time

Blazetrailer:
This is how to know the semi literates online. Lol!

Funds paid by Japan to many countries going by their Treaty 49 was pure and pure compensation, same thing as reparations, hand outs.

Japan paid reparations to both China, Burma, Korea and other small Islands it invaded because of the atrocities committed by its soldiers during the wars and not any nonsense ODA. Read it up. Same was offered to Russia/Soviet Union but the rejected it considering it condescending to their status.

What this buffoon has been talking about since is reparations. That is, for some countries to dash you money due to past events. ODA is a synonym for reparations.

History of Official Development Assistance (ODA) to China (1979 and 2022)

Official Development Assistance (ODA) to China began in 1979, and ended in March 2022. Total numbers are approximately 3.3165 trillion yen in loan aid (yen loans), 157.6 billion yen in grant aid, and 185.8 billion yen in technical cooperation. (As of FY 2020)

Grant Aid
Grant aid is financial assistance that is extended to recipient countries without imposing an obligation of repayment.

Loan Aid
Loan aid involves the provision of loans under relaxed conditions (low interest, long repayment period) to recipient countries. (These are in principle untied loans.)

Technical Cooperation
Technical cooperation involves the technologies being provided to recipient countries to spread the use of technology among people in developing countries and improve technical levels.

Blazetrailer:
Not that this matters to the argument but since you brought it up, FYI I am not in a refugee camp, in fact, i am rising up in the corporate ladder here. Some of us decided to take the war of personal development seriously to create opportunities for ourselves and our coming generations rather than wait for handouts from others while pandering to thieves and drug lords as leaders. An unserious country where half of the law markers are on EFCC corrupt list including a senate president and an ex convict like Kalu Uzor Kalu making laws for them but wants colonialists to develop them by compesating them...imagine the buffoonery??

You cant help yourself but vote thieves into power but demanding others to use their resources to develop you..... One of the most stupid ans obtuse line of reasoning i have ever read.

Mumu, keep demanding for development, as China demanded from Japan and Germany/France demanded from Turkey...oponu!!

Blazetrailer:
demand development How? You making it sound like it is a right? This is beyond stupid!

Did China demand development from Japan?
Did Mexico and Brazil demand development from Spain?
Did Europe demand development from Turkey??
Those countries went to work to develop themselves by voting in appropriate leaders and focused on concentric development

so what is the job of your leaders if you have to demand development from your colonial masters?......to keep looting your commonwealth and oppressing you, abi?

Even the Cree and Metis nations of Canada are tired of demanding for handouts and are currently working on economic models to develop their settlements by having their own schools, farms, plantations, banks, mortgage institutions, refinery and all sorts. Things given freely are never valued, unless you develop them yourself.

Remain there and be demanding development, you hear!

Did China demand development from Japan?

Did Mexico demand development from Spain?

Did Brazil demand development from Porugal?

Did Europe demand development from Turkey??

Blazetrailer:
Nonsense!! Reparations are given to countries where there is that strong belief that the people are capable of governing themselves well, not the chaotic and rudderless nations.

Give $300 trillion to Africans and put them in modern day USA/Canada and then move citizens of USA/Canada to modern day Africa and give them both 10 years and let us see the results.

Blazetrailer:
To start with, you dont know what you were talking about. I doubt you read about the Renaissance in Europe. The Ottoman retreated to modern day Turkey, Cyprus and part of Greece after the defeat in Europe, and constantly launched wars to reclaim the lost grounds in modern day Europe for several years until they gave up. They never paid any reparation. Read it up.

Secondly, the moment you agreed that colonialism gave some form of modernisation in structure, you defeated every ounce of your argument for any other form of assistance. There was a benefit and such should have been a catalyst for growth and development. You couldn't have benefitted from colonialism and expect them to continue to pander to your needs while you kill yourselves, loot your commonwealth, oppress yourselves,squander all your resources and then expect bail out from others.

With regards to election loss, i did not participate in your election in Nigeria, had conveniently left your shit hole before then so I am not even looking at anything from that angle. But i used that as an example of how retrogressive the thinking of Africans are while expecting developments or help from others. Help yourselves first by sanitising your leadership and genuine progress will come without begging for development from your colonial masters who still marvel with mouth agape at how stupendously Africa is endowed with natural resources they can only dream off. Yet, they keep putting wrong ones in the position of leadership. Like someone else told you, swap Africans and Americans and move them opposite whete they are now, in 5 years or less, Africa will become the new el-dorado while the US will become something close to Somalia or South Sudan. It is inborn, no amount of reparation can cure that.

I recommend you read a book about post colonial africa titled "The state of africa" by Martin Meredith and you would have a better understanding of why Africa will remain what it is. Backwaters of the world. You would understand why generational long tribal suspicions, greed, stupidity, political cluelessness and all sorts will continue to bedevil africa unless there are dramatic and revolutionary changes. You would read about how the colonial masters persuaded their citizens in Algeria, Guinea, Senegal, Southern and Northern Rhodesia, and other staes where the Europeans fought hard to retain as annexes of their home countries as settlements, to give African countries independence because they were sure that despite the rich resources, Africans were not capable of governing themselves well. A few years after the independence of these countries they turned to beggar nations after mismanaging the orgamisiation and feittering away the wealth the Europeans left.

Try and read up to develo your thinking and connec it to what is happening around you, dont just see everyting from election losses or winnings alone

mrvitalis:
Africans demanding reparations like the money would get to the tribes that were used as slaves the most

Yes, the British Empire did pay reparations to the United States on several occasions.

The Jay Treaty (1794): The British government agreed to pay $10 million to the United States as compensation for the seizure of American ships and cargo during the American Revolutionary War.
The Treaty of Ghent (1814): The British government agreed to pay $3.5 million to the United States as compensation for the destruction of American property and the impressment of American sailors during the War of 1812.
The Webster-Ashburton Treaty (1842): The British government agreed to pay $1.2 million to the United States as compensation for the destruction of American ships and property during the Aroostook War.
The Alabama Claims (1872): The British government agreed to pay $15.5 million to the United States as compensation for the damage caused by Confederate ships built in British ports during the American Civil War.

The most significant payment, however, was the one made under the Treaty of Washington (1871), which settled the Alabama Claims. The British government agreed to pay $15.5 million to the United States, which is approximately $300 million in today's dollars.

It's worth noting that these payments were not necessarily considered "reparations" in the modern sense, but rather as compensation for specific damages or losses incurred during conflicts or disputes. However, they do represent a recognition by the British government of its responsibility for certain actions and a willingness to make amends.

Blazetrailer:
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What is this victim mentality.
Ifnyou uhderstajd history well, more than half of Europe was colonized by the Ottoman and Byzarntine empires. Indont hear them calling out for ODA or repatration, they looked at themselves and built their ruined countries up again, resisted bad governance,paid heavy sacrifices to create a society that the descendants of their colonizers(Turkey) have been begging to become members of their society (EU) for decades. They were not stupid enough to vote in drug lords as presidents and expecting progress.

Colonialism gave Africans a structure, semblance of organisation out of the chaos and disembolwlment of culture and deep-rooted hatred for one another that was met in Africa pre-colonial era. They were not the ones who told you to vote against your own progressive interests by electing thieves as leaders.

Despite the alledged truth that the wealth in Africa is so stupendous that it could make it heaven on earth, it is the people with organisation and necessary leadership skills that have the best countries of the world. All the courtesies that were given ODA first had a semblance of organisation, not the chaotic and selfish rulership that black men have been cursed with.

Colonialism gave Africans a structure, semblance of organisation

Validated:
How did you get educated? How did you come about hospitals, rails, etc? Did the colonizers not give you anything in return? Oh, you see it from only one side of the coin. Ask yourself, what have you done with all that aids, oil monies, mines and precious stones you sell? What are you doing to make your future generations better?

I was joking with a friend recently that if you move all the whites in North Anerica (US/Canada) to Africa and move all of Africans to North America, in 5 years, Africa will become paradise while North America will become a choas, shit-hole. Systems and grid collapse will begin to happen, elections will become violent, power supply will deteriorate. Tribalism will be rife, hospitals will become morgues.

Again go and work and be future focused. Lazy Afrocans looking for hand outs.

Validated:
Did your slave dealers not get paid?

Validated:
Go and work and stop looking for hand out.
Did your fore-father not receive payments for selling their kit and kins? Did your Obas and Obis, Emirs, etc not get paid to sell slaves?
If you sold your cow (commodity to another), do you go to him after thousands if years to Sk for repatriation? If anyone sho be paying
repatriation., it should Nigeriian Obas, Obis, Emirs, who should be paying African-American, Haitians, Barbados black. Central Carribeans, Jamaican, for selling their forefathers and pocketing the money. Not the buyer, who paid fully for their cargo, paid for shipping

Validated:
Go and work ans stop looking for hand out.

mrvitalis:
Productivity of a state is judged by GDP and GDP per capita... Go to school and stop embarrassing yourself

FAAC +IGR is share of national cake not productivity don't they teach you people Basic economics

It's no more a surprise why APC tanked our economy

haybhi1:
Lol, I'm actually proud of Tinubu as an Omoluabi. Man's achieved a lot his whole life. Brought aesthetics to modern Lagos. Even worked for an international company (ExxonMobil)-something never reserved for third class' like the inept Peter Gregory Obi. Lol.

And now Tinubu has made lots of reforms that'll revolutionize the country and shape its future. And indeed he comes to my mind less than he does your people's mind. A day without talking about him, y'all regret and may die.

FreeStuffsNG:
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Ololufe2009:
10 million naira each?
Where do they expect these innocent kids or their parents to get 10 million naira?? When the real protest start, how many of us can they arrest?

10mobile:
You tagged me to this post and I never said that colonialism was in our BEST interest. I couldn't have said that because we can't certainly tell what other historical route that fate would have taken us through. But, what I said is that we gained a lot from the colonial era even if we also lost a lot to it.

The evidence that we gained is everywhere. For instance, if you give me what I don't like, I'd either give it back to you or throw it away. Even if you raped me and I am sure there's no good that can come from the pregnancy, I'd abort it. But, here you are proudly using the language, the education and the tech they bequeathed to you while insisting you gained NOTHING from them! Ha!

Ability to speak English is not what makes you educated as you said. But, with English being one of the two most widely used languages on earth, this is one asset you have to help you connect to a lot of people and opportunities globally - both as individuals and as a country.

I have since identified this attitude of yours in many Africans. They are always trying to emphasize what they lost and what they did for you over what you did for them. Why can't you be noble and balanced enough to admit that, "yes, I gained this and this while I lost this and this"?

That's how life is. You can't gain it all. And why should you expect them to not gain something from coming here? Why should they make you gain 100% while they lose 100%? Why must their relationship with us be based on charity rather than business considerations?

This is one poor attitude I keep seeing in Africans that is drawing us back: If someone offers you a value, you refuse to accept it just because you discovered that the person will ALSO gain something from the interaction! You are so selfish and wicked that you see other people's gain as your loss!?! Once someone gains something, then, that's automatically an evil occurrence.

Relationships should be all about give and take. But the typical African wants it to be all about "give me, give me, and give me". It's a major reason we are so backward.

If all the British gained from us is the price we paid for all we gained from them, I think it's a fair deal. After all, the resources you said they mined were placed there by God - not by them or by us.

And these resources would have remained under the earth until now without their intervention. Even our agricultural produce (like groundnut) has had improved yield due to better farming methods introduced to us via our colonial masters.

AntiZikist:
Isn't ironic that the people who cry the most over 1914 unification of northern and southern Nigeria as being a British project are the same ones using the same British map of Eastern Nigeria that yoked independent nationalities into one entity for administrative exigencies ?

You can't condemn the unification of northern and southern Nigeria and still be claiming British created artificial Eastern Nigeria to base your future nation.