Politics › Re: Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 10:02pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Ibo don suffer for this nigeria o! See comment from Ilorin Emirate!
I thought Ibo always support the fulani in Ilorin....are they not aware Ibo is their friend?   |
Politics › Re: Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 9:53pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Osaze007: The reality is only a Christain governor can liberate kwara As long as Muslims continue to rule kwara not much will change
David bamigboye was a Christain hence had 0 affiliation with any yeye emir Maybe you are right, but I don't want to think think like that, because the Christians are minorities. I would rather argue thalt, He was able to achieve what he did because he was a military man. Military people don't play stupid politics, because their life depends on it. The honest ones always make the best leaders! But all these yeye politicians are mostly bad leaders. They are in politics for themselves alone. Many of them contest for those offices to enrich themselves and not to serve their people. |
Politics › Re: Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 9:31pm On Jul 24, 2020*. Modified: 9:55pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Christistruth00: Jebba was never part of Ilorin Emirate the Town's in Moro Local Govt were founded by Old Oyo Warlords and their followers after the Collapse of Old Oyo. It was Politics that put Moro under Ilorin Emirate. Jebba has an Oba that was even recognised by the British as far back as 1913.
The Royal Niger Company Army that finally overthrew the Balogun Yoruba of Ilorin who was the ruler of Ilorin town in 1897 after the Gambari Emir had been successfully deposed by his Yoruba Chief's was based at Jebba. Ilorin Emirate never conquered Jebba Area. It is Politics that put the administration of Moro LG under Ilorin.
The people of Moro Local Govt are ethnic Oyo and they were part of the Ekiti Kwara Area who were mainly Christians until Politics reclassified them and put them under Ilorin Emirate . Ilorin never ruled them . The same happened at Lokoja the Fulani never conquered it but it was still Carved into the Northern Region . Also Southern Kaduna at a time was put under Zaria Emirate which never conquered them. In fact some Moro Local Government towns were even founded by the Ijaiye Warlords when they fell out of Favour with Kurunmi their King .
When the Ibadan Army defeated the Fulani Jihad at Osogbo in 1840 the Fulani Army was pursued all the Way to River Niger which they all plunged into in their despiration to Escape . It was at the shores of the River Niger that the Ibadan Army's courage failed them and they decided not to cross over because they didn't know what to expect on the other side but they still had a camp in the Area and later on the Oyo people settled in Towns all the way to Mokwa in Niger State until they later moved back across river Niger again to the Jebba Area for safety after the Emir of Kotangora started threatening them.
It was when the Ibadan Army were busy fighting the Kiriji wars with the Ekiti Ijebu, Egba, Ijesha that the Ilorins quietly sneaked back into Ilorin town again.
The British colonial Govt knew all this when it recognised the Oba of Jebba in 1913.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/how-kwara-govt-ilorin-emirate-oppress-our-people-jimoh-moro-concerned-elders-movement-president/%3famp=1 Honestly, it irritates me when I read Yoruba people wail against Fulani! I don't know why we do it? Obviously, this so called "one Nigeria" is weakening us is some ways, I guess. But, I just don't understand why some Yoruba people would be at the forefront on defending the status quo? I guess the northern military did a lot of number on our psychic. "Yoruba" governors have always ruled that state but "somehow somehow" they refused to exclude them from the emirate, why? I guess, politics! The same politics that made a "Bukola Saraki" claim he is Fulani, is also the same thing this ones there too are playing. But where is the Bukola today now? They all fail to realize that power is transient and life is limited, so why don't they just do what people would remember them for rather than hold on to some political dominance that am very certain they cant sustain. David Bamigboye would always be remembered by the Kwara south people, for the right thing he did for his people. How can you allow your own people be subservient to some minority Emir? How many years in politics can equate their libration? Something, is obviously wrong with us! Anyway, Kwara state is very complex just like some of those North Central states and Kaduna state and we have to thank the greedy British for this. |
Politics › Re: Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 10:00pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 9:57pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
Seerade029: Yeah you're correct. But the first one tried it. He was denied 2nd term and was killed. Why would anyone who really wants the good of his/her people be scared of death or reelection? These guys risk their life in politics but they are scared of carrying out the right thing? Anyway, one day the state would have someone who has something upstairs! |
Politics › Re: Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 1:59pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
Seerade029: Actually the emir of ilorin is not wise. Why doesn't want the jebba people to raise their traditional status
If not because of Jebba. The whole kwara state including offa will automatically be under the Fulanis.
I see revolution in ilorin in the nearest years. If the governor is able to secure 2nd term, he should just create another palace with an Oba in ilorin. If the emir doesn't wanna leave him title. Actually, the power lies in the hand of the governor, but I think lack of political will is what has been holding them (all democratic governors of Kwara to date) back. |
Politics › Re: Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 12:30pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
For those who don't understand the problem: Move Moro out of Ilorin Emirate, group begs Kwara govt
Tunde Oyekola
Elders of Moro Local Government Area of Kwara State have asked to quit the Ilorin Emirate Council.
Reacting to a statement attributed to the Emir of Ilorin, Alhaji Ibrahim Sulu-Gambari, in which he allegedly cautioned Governor Abdulrahman Abdulrazaq against the elevation of the Ohoro of Shao and Oba of Jebba as traditional chiefs, the Moro Concerned Elders Movement told the government to ignore the warning.
The Ilorin Emirate Council in a statement by the Magaji Nda of Ilorin, Alhaji Woru Mohammed, on May 8 cautioned the state government against acceding to the request for the elevation of the traditional chiefs.
The statement read, “The council reminded the government of the fact that all traditional chiefs in the five local government areas (Ilorin West, Ilorin East, Ilorin South, Asa and Moro) that make up the Ilorin Emirate are lesser chiefs under the Emir of Ilorin.
“Unless the 1999 Constitution is amended, all 774 local governments including Moro shall continue to remain where they are despite their political religion and tribal differences.”
However, MOCEM in a statement by Alhaji Isiaka Jimoh (President), Dr Bolaji Afolabi (General Secretary) and Chief Sunday Oyebiyi (Director of Publicity) said, “We hereby plead with the dynamic government of Abdulrahman Abdulrazaq to totally ignore the “caution” of the Ilorin Emirate Council through Saliu Mohammed, because it is anti-people and unconstitutional.”
They appealed to the government “to implement immediately its White Paper of December 17, 1987 which abolishes the appointment of District Heads for the Moro LGA from Ilorin and which henceforth directs that such appointments be made from among the indigenes of local government area.
“Immediate implementation of the various court judgments in favour of Moro LGA on the traditional Institution such as the judgments on suit No KWS/231/894 of 22/10/1997 delivered by Justice Afolabi Ibiwoye as well as that of Justice Oluyemisi Ajayi.”
“Immediate remedy to the degrading injustice done to Moro LGA by first restoring the Ohoro of Shao and Oba of Jebba to their pre-1984 status and subsequent elevation to first class status to meet up with their counterparts like Olusin of Isin, Olupako of Share, Olosi of Osi etc, while the Moro Local Government Traditional Council should be created to be made up of our Traditional rulers like other parts of Kwara State.” https://punchng.com/move-moro-out-of-ilorin-emirate-group-begs-kwara-govt/ |
Politics › Moro District Heads Threaten Kwara Government With Violence by llakes4real(op): 10:45am On Jul 23, 2020*. Modified: 12:02pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
By Mumini AbdulKareem District Heads in Moro Local Government have called upon the Kwara State Government to urgently caution those they described as disgruntled elements trying to divide Ilorin Emirate in the council. The District Head of Lanwa, Bode Saadu & Jebba, Alh. Aliyu Olarongbe Gambari made the call at a press conference held in Ilorin, the Kwara State capital weekend. Gambari who spoke on behalf of other district heads that make up Moro Local Government noted that those behind the trouble are short of history and non indigene as well. Elder Wole-Oke has led some leaders in Moro to call the secession of the council from Ilorin Emirate. While warning the trouble makers to let a sleeping dog lie and allow peace to reign, he appreciated the Emir of Ilorin, Alh. Ibrahim Sulu Gambari for his wisdom and maturity in handling the affairs of the Emirate. Gambari also clarified that Magaji Nda of Ilorin is a Landlord to the Ilorin Emirate and not a slave as been propagated by Wole and his supporters. He thereafter congratulated Governor Abdulrahman Abdulrazaq for the achievement recorded in his first year of administration in the state and prayed for God guidance throughout his tenure as Executive Governor of Kwara state. “We applaud the achievement of our Governor for the past one year in office and we pray for long life and prosperity. We equally pray for the Emir, for the honesty and wisdom he is using to direct the affairs of the traditional rulers in Kwara State. “I am the district head of Bode-Saadu and my other colleagues appreciate all what that has been done for us but we request for more. “We are calling on the state government not to listen to those who want to divide us making pronouncement on radio, because they are not indigene of Moro and most of them came from Iragbiji, Samara, Oyo, Abeokuta, Igbira land and they came here to destroy and divide us. They want to shatter the love we have for each other in Moro. “I and my other district heads were born in the districts and went to school there, what else do they want. My forefathers founded that place. So we implore those who want to foment to desist. This was how the problem of Northeast, Zamfara and Benue security issues escalated and we don’t want such in Kwara. These people are not from us and they want to destroy us in Kwara State.“Magaji Nda is not a slave but a landlord to the first emir of Ilorin, Sheikh Abdulsalam and that is why we say these people are short of history. No body that wants to became an emir today from the Abdulsalami dynasty that will not first spend 15 days in the House of Magaji Nda who will then hand him over to the Baloguns for the Turbaning after the expiration of that period. Is it possible for Emirs and royal fathers to spend such number of days in the House of a slave? “These people don’t know what they are saying, they are hired people and just talking, they don’t want the emirate system which is why they are coming up with such propaganda. If they are claiming they are from Oduduwua family, they should go to Oyo, Ile-Ife or Abeokuta, they will have virgin land to build their houses there, nobody will query them. “We learnt that some of them went to meet the Alafin that they are from Ilorin but were turned back. If they want to exit Ilorin, they should not destroy it or the emirate, they should go back to their town and villages and some of them are even Ibos. We can’t allow them to destroy us and that is why we are calling on the Governor not to listen to them. Emirate is a northern regional government system which Kwara is part of it. The Emirate laws is in the constitution and if they are not please with what we are doing, they should leave because we are one here and will remain one”, he submitted. http://thenationalpilot.ng/2020/07/17/district-heads-to-abdulrazaq-wole-oke-other-emirate-secessionists-not-from-kwara/amp/
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Leader Of Radical Black-only Militia NFAC Wants A Real-life Wakanda For Every Bl by llakes4real(op): 2:47pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
letu: Malcolm X archived all this for them by declaring blacks dominated area Authonomus, he even went as far as registering the Autonomy with the Organization of African unity presently know as African Union, what did they do after Malcolm X was killed guess what they Abandoned everything he did for them and move with Martin Luther King Jr inwhich they settled down and start leaving the dream yes we will work and stand as equal with white, leave together with white by integration, integration by leaving with and loving / intermarrying whites also making love to white girls with their over hype abnormal 19 inches big black dic which makes some of them behave like they have archived something in life inwhich they will now have Half Caste babies every where.
So they shouldn't tell me that they no longer want or that they are tired of Martin Luther King Jr dream, well they should continue Martin it to the end no need to run away. Hmm. Martin Luther's method is not totally bad, in some years time, mix breed children would out number the whites and they would become the majority. By then, these children would be less hostile to the races of their parents. Though this Trump administration is working hard to stop that from happening by banning abortion. White ladies predominantly abort unwanted pregnancies. Malcolm X tactics was dangerous then though. They could have successfully harmed them and lied about it or covered it up. The truth is that whites are way more powerful than blacks and a direct attempt to break their domination would result in casualties for black people. I would even argue that they planned his assassination. Read this experiment they performed on black people then https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experimentImagine trying anything funny with these kind of mind? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Leader Of Radical Black-only Militia NFAC Wants A Real-life Wakanda For Every Bl by llakes4real(op): 12:23pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
letu: I wrote that to bring people's attention to the ridiculously stupidity of this particular demand being demanded by the so called NFAC that a land in Africa should be given to them the AA of USA, such has already been done for them eg Liberia and Sierra Leone.
What exactly did they do with the country :
1)By dominating the entire affairs of the country as if they are some kind of nobility(First Class citizens)
2) They refuse accept the natives by treating them like they are worst than second class citizen
3) They refuse to reach a common ground with the natives of Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Well we all know how the whole thing ended up, Liberia and Sierra Leone turn out to be a worse and worse, never getting better. Another example all those Caribbean Countries, the AA(African American) of this Caribbean regional areas of American Continent where once a slave but they fought and demanded for their freedom and independence inwhich the white colonial masters allowed or accepted their independent and also allowed or gave them land's to rule as their independent Country inwhich the AA of the Caribbean's are all over the Island's that made up the Caribbean, well the Caribbean's is another evidence of Land given to them by white colonial masters so the AA of USA also know as(African Americans of USA) should go over there (the Caribbean) and join their brother's and sisters over there, no need to come over to Africa we already have enough issues here in Africa even if the Land is given to them in Africa it will be Liberia and Sierra Leone all over again. You have a point, but I think their statement of seeking a country of their own is political. It just to checkmate the white supremacists! Those guys work around thinking they can do anything and get away with it. The formation of this NFAC would make them think twice, and those silently supporting them too would rethink their position. People only like to oppressing the downtrodden! https://www.rt.com/usa/493727-us-civil-war-2021/See the picture I picture I attached below. Did you see that their leader's face is revealed? That is the impunity those guys go around commiting.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Leader Of Radical Black-only Militia NFAC Wants A Real-life Wakanda For Every Bl by llakes4real(op): 11:49am On Jul 19, 2020 |
Olominira: You know most of them have lost their senses. African American have been fighting for survival for decades and still fighting..... most of the gains have been shared largely with African immigrants. Don't be surprised that most of them (Nigerian trump supporters) would pick their racist trump over African American, because they're stupid by nature I would blame lack of proper education. Before the advent of social media, most of the crimes the America system commit on blacks and minorities are swept under the rug. So alot of us in Africa don't know what goes on there and around the world. The only view of white people we have are people who come and donate things to us and our governments. But now that we are in the information age, we are seeing them for who they really are. Even the so called charity they claim they are doing is not free! After they steal the natural resources with the aid of greedy Africa leaders, then they give back little to us. See, I wish us the best -- we truly need help to survive in this world! |
Politics › Re: How Makoko Can Be Transformed By N100 Billion Tax Evaded By Alpha Beta by llakes4real: 11:33am On Jul 19, 2020*. Modified: 12:24pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
Heavensent01: do you know how Northern is at the forefront of fighting for their people's right?
Tinubu is part of this incumbent party whether he's elected or not and his influence to protect the rights of his people cannot be trace elsewhere being a recognized stakeholders in this useless govt
you people just need someone that will break points to you like A for apple...I don't have time for those nonsense
I've made my opinion and my stand on the useless Tinubu and other ineffective Yoruba leaders stand. nonsense Going by your argument, which northerner in Buhari's government is criticizing him? Even magu that is facing the heat now wouldn't. Something you fail to recognize is that politicians would always be politicians! They are all acting in their self interest. and they tell people their own personal interest is also the interest of their people. Even, the so called opposition politicians we have in Yorubaland today, "crying up and down", are all doing so for their own interest. Tinubu has his own interest to protect, hence his silence on so many problems facing Yoruba people cum Nigeria, and "the saints" screaming everywhere today are also doing so for themselves! Let the position be reversed, and you would see how empty they all are. My own personal opinion, I don't think joining the others to defame Tinubu is a smart move for a Yoruba person. Let his opponents do that and let his supporters respond to them. Whether you like it or not, no matter how bad Tinubu is or would become, he would still do certain things that favor us as a people. Can we replace the man if we join his opponents to drag him down? Am just being a realist here o! NB: I only replied you because I always like your comments and you have the moral justification to castigate him, but there are times one has to play some politics too! Ekaaro! |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Leader Of Radical Black-only Militia NFAC Wants A Real-life Wakanda For Every Bl by llakes4real(op): 9:35am On Jul 19, 2020*. Modified: 11:53am On Jul 19, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Leader Of Radical Black-only Militia NFAC Wants A Real-life Wakanda For Every Bl by llakes4real(op): 4:15am On Jul 19, 2020 |
Olominira: It's possible. Unfortunately, US don't have a thinking leader at the moment I don't think so. The man is methodical thinker, it just that he is too sectional. He won the first election by out thinking his opponents and contrary to expectations, he won the election. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Leader Of Radical Black-only Militia NFAC Wants A Real-life Wakanda For Every Bl by llakes4real(op): 12:35am On Jul 19, 2020 |
In short, a racial civil war might break out in America! |
Foreign Affairs › Leader Of Radical Black-only Militia NFAC Wants A Real-life Wakanda For Every Bl by llakes4real(op): 12:34am On Jul 19, 2020 |
Leader of radical black-only militia NFAC ‘believes in violence’ & wants a real-life Wakanda for every black person in AmericaNFAC, the masked, armed black militia that recently marched through a park in Georgia, deems violence and killing an acceptable response to oppression. Their end goal is to break away from the US as their own black-only nation. The NFAC (Not F*cking Around Coalition) grabbed plenty of attention on social media with a high-profile public debut on July 4. The sight of an all-black militia, clutching rifles and handguns, marching in the heartland of the Ku Klux Klan at Stone Mountain caused plenty of ripples.
But very little is known about them, despite a frenzy of speculation. It’s not even clear when they were created or how many of them there are. So to make their intentions clear, NFAC founder and leader Grand Master Jay (real name John Fitzgerald Johnson) spoke exclusively to RT.
There’s a misconception that we’re a terrorist group and want to kill white people.
“We are here to protect the black community, as that’s who is under attack. Nobody is protecting black children, men and women in America. What necessitated the creation of NFAC was the need to address a rising tide of police brutality, of racial brutality, of unfairness in the judicial system,” he said.
“Most of us like me are ex-miliitary, we’re not young people on the block, we’re voters, we’re your responsible guys, we’re the guys with the good jobs.”
Every black person a ‘political prisoner’ While seeing themselves as protectors, Jay has a clear aim of what he wants to achieve – and he’s not playing it small.
He feels that black people need to be split from the rest of the US.
So he says he, and others, are filing an order of liberation with the International Court of Justice.
He explained: “I want them to declare every black person who is a descendent of the Portuguese slave trade a political prisoner of the United States. And to sanction the United States to do one of two things. The first is give us our own land here, so we can go in, set up our own government and the whole nine yards.”
Some have speculated that Jay is demanding the states of Texas as this land, but he only used the Lone Star state as an example. The key is to be given land no longer controlled by the White House.
The other option is more radical, which most media have refused to publish.
Jay revealed: “It's a glaring fact that mainstream media in the United States has completely ignored the NFAC. ABC News tried to do an interview with me but found the information too scary, so they buried the story as a history piece about Stone Mountain.”
The mainstream media will not report on us, as images of organized black folks with guns would send shivers down the spine of the racist core of America.
Black-only exodus to Africa “My other aim is for an exodus to Africa, to establish our destiny and build our own nation – and get a seat at the UN like everybody else. Forty-five million of us is a nation within a nation, so we can take ourselves to a place where two countries friendly to us are willing to carve out some land.
That would be in Africa, as it's where we come from, where we have greater numbers, where resources are and I already have relationships with some of the rulers of those countries.
Hypothetically, I want to get an area of about 100 miles on each side, declare it a sovereign zone and build an infrastructure.”
The exodus would only include black people. The NFAC only allow black members, and Jay doesn’t feel this should be a shocking admission.
“Every other entity has their own, we’re the only people on the planet who don’t,” he said.
“If something happens to a Chinese person in America, China gets upset. If it’s British person, the Queen has something to say about it. The color black is not a country, so if something happens to a black person in America, nobody gets upset.”
The riots that broke out after the latest resonant police killing of an unarmed black man, George Floyd, is apparently not what he has in mind. He wants to take things global.
“We have no identity, they call us African Americans but tell me, where in Africa? There are 55 countries in Africa.”
If we have our own country, then if something happens in America, we can go to the UN and say ‘that’s a violation.’
Those with a single black parent could be included but would be investigated by the NFAC along with their “pattern of behaviour.”
'BLM doesn’t believe in violence. We do' NFAC hasn’t been spawned by the Black Lives Matter movement. Jay was part of BLM several years ago but grew frustrated by their direction. He feels a more authoritarian approach is the only way forward.
“Black Lives Matter does not represent the sentiments of the black community.We have distanced ourselves from them completely,” Jay admitted.
“BLM doesn’t believe in violence, we do. We chose America’s Independence Day to send that message as we were slaves when that happened, we were not members of this country.
We tried to be here for 247 years, we had reconstruction and they burned our towns down, we had Jim Crow when they set dogs on us and told us we couldn’t sit next to them – we tried that with affirmative action and they rolled that back.
It's obvious they don’t want us here.”
NFAC's willingness to kill could be why they are shunned by the more mainstream activists. But Jay feels justified as he claims there have been 457 controversial killings since the 2014 police shooting of 18-year-old black man Michael Brown.
“If anybody in our group has a personal agenda and just wants to shoot some people, then we’re not the group for them,” he says, before calmly explaining the rules of engagement:
But on July 4 before we went to the park my orders were, kill them – not shoot or wound them, kill them.
“That was the safety briefing. I told them we were not to initiate anything but if they attack us, then everyone out here will kill everyone in sight. We don't want to hear your excuses anymore, we don’t want to hear let’s talk or wait for the grand jury.”
Along with the Stone Mountain march, the NFAC held a simultaneous event in Phoenix’s Escobar Park. Since then, Jay claims he’s been flooded by contacts globally and now has NFAC chapters internationally.
However, members’ identities will remain anonymous.
“There's a vetting process, we inspect them and then they get sworn into the NFAC,” he said.
“We are also a coalition so some existing organizations want to be a part of us too, so we vet their members too.
"We learned our lessons from types of infiltration methodologies.That’s why we’re so secretive about our numbers, that’s why you cannot find out where we train, that’s why we are not as open to giving up the details.”
The only name or face that is known is mine. I speak, no one else does.
Done with saving America Back in 2016, Jay ran for president but felt his campaign was purposely sidelined. He regards 2020 contender Kanye as “a political joke” but did reveal some have urged him to run again.
“Since Kanye’s announcement, I’ve received phone calls saying ‘you do know if you run for the presidency right now, you would win hands down,’” Jay said.
“But my mission is not to save America, I tried that and I found out that big money and the media can be bought to block out good candidates. I will not go down that road again.
“My goal is much loftier than that, not only to facilitate the exodus of the black nation here in America but the implementation of what we would call the United State of Africa.”
Since July 4, Jay feels the NFAC had already made a clear difference.
Things in his view have calmed down. “They got the message, there hasn’t been one lynching or police involved shooting since and a wave of unity has swept the black community and we’re seeing the judicial system trying to prosecute the cases.”
While the NFAC is only for blacks, he does encourage other races to support their cause.
Malcolm X said it best, you can help us, but you can’t join us.
“Unless we are by ourselves and until we learn to love ourselves, we can’t love another people. When a people are denied knowledge of their culture and history of self, they have nothing to be proud of.
“Did you see how proud they felt when they saw the movie ‘Black Panther’ which is make believe? Black people are yearning to belong to something, we have got to give them something to belong to. I would rather give my life for something noble like the liberation of my people, rather than to waste it staying alive being a weakling.”
“And what you’ll find is, I’m not alone.” https://www.rt.com/usa/495109-nfac-black-militia-blm/amp/
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Politics › Re: Oduduwa Republic Map & Currencies At A Glance by llakes4real: 4:08am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Resemblance246: No body is begging you to join Oduduwa republic sometimes I got angry seeing Edo in the map I swear. This is a better map
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Politics › Re: Afenifere: ‘Blame Tinubu, Akande, Fayemi If South West Loses 2023 Presidency’ by llakes4real: 12:00am On Jul 14, 2020 |
smallsmall: Very true! A major problem is FAYEMI, he is getting over ambitious and is ready to collude with the enemies, to achieve his Vice Presidential Ambitions, but he will fail like 202 JAMB. Fayemi is very untrustworthy and Yorubas should be wary of him, he is an enemy within
The problem of Tinubu is GREED and he is willing to sell the Yoruba nation, for hi sown personal aggrandisement, knowing he can NEVER be put on the Presidential ballot (such ticket will be Dead On Arrival) but he wants to stoke the fire hot enough to give himself prime position to aks for payback in terms of contracts and concessions. It was Tinubu that is undermining every other "shinning star" from Yoruba land, in Abuja Politics. From Fashola, to V.P Osinbajo, once Tinubu sees that the profile of that SW Politician is rising in a way that makes them feasible for a Presidential ticket, he begins to undermine them. He wants everyone in the SW to be under his control, that will not happen. 
Baba Akande is not much of a problem, he is just concerned about growing his own influence within the APC and the South West but not in the agressive manner of Tinubu and Fayemi, the two crooks of the South West.
BTW, Afeni- Febi is just the Yoruba Branch of the PDP, they dont speak for the whole South West and they are a bunch of Cash-and-Carry Politicians, Anywhere-Belle-Face people.  in summary, everyone is a crook! |
Politics › Re: Yorùbá Nation: What Do We Want? by llakes4real: 2:48pm On Jul 12, 2020 |
7lives: E ye tan ara yin, Tinubu's only crime is refusing to go into oblivion with AD. Tinubu sees into the future but they don't, we are all going to be in this country to ba da Jo won l'owo tan. They joined outsiders to frustrate Awolowo, they later went to cry and beg for forgiveness at his grave. I seriously hope they won't end up going to cry and beg for forgiveness at Tinubu's grave as well. What less crabs. We all need outsiders! Same way Tinubu is also in cohort with outsiders. But the outsiders Tinubu is romancing can't be trusted -- their past and present proves this. Anyway, let's wait and see! |
Politics › Re: Yorùbá Nation: What Do We Want? by llakes4real: 11:25am On Jul 12, 2020 |
FrLukas: I know all these.
Trust me there are people who have the brainpower to facilitate a clean, hassle-free break away of the Yorubas only if the elders would ask.
After all, ọmọdé gbọ́n, àgbà gbọ́n la fi dá ilẹ̀ Ifè.
Consultations should go on underground.
Let the country continue to wallow in decadence while we plan our exit.
Whoever is benefiting from this unholy union should prepare to commit suicide when we finally leave.  |
Politics › Re: Yorùbá Nation: What Do We Want? by llakes4real: 10:45am On Jul 12, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Yorùbá Nation: What Do We Want? by llakes4real: 10:42am On Jul 12, 2020 |
[quote author=FrLukas post=91629905][/quote]What do expect those who depend (are parasitic) on you to do when you are exiting Nigeria? It would become a matter of life and death to them. What of the Yoruba leaders and other ethnic leaders who are profiting from the rot in Nigeria? Not forgetting the Godfather (Britain), they engineered this country and the present whooped system we have been practicing. Breaking out of Nigeria is complex, and care should be taken. |
Politics › Re: Yorùbá Nation: What Do We Want? by llakes4real: 10:28am On Jul 12, 2020 |
helinues: 2023 will determine precisely what we want.. A restructured Nigeria would benefit us more than the presidency. We should move to correct the mistake of the first republic. Could you imagine the what the autonomy would bring to us all? Everyone should manage what they make from themselves. These unnecessary romance with those whose way of life, evidently is different from ours, would stop. Everyone would be more concerned about development and not the next election. Cc richie240 |
Politics › Re: Yorùbá Nation: What Do We Want? by llakes4real: 9:48am On Jul 12, 2020 |
richie240: Intact u took d words out of my mouth! The likes of d author of d article fails to realise that yorubaland is not 'homogeneous' so to speak. There are enemies within who live amongst d Yorubas but seek her downfall.
Whilst d author raised salient issues esp as it concerns BAT, extreme care must be taken not to throw d baby away with d bath water, hence playing into d hands of (d enemies within) who hate him out of envy for his political dexterity and not that politicians in their own enclaves are any holier than him.
The author shd realise dt politics of today has outgrown what it used to be. If he, in d guise of being puritanical, brings down BAT or any shining light of d yoruba nation, d hawks amongst us will be too glad to supply him with wood and petrol to finish the job.
What yoruba leaders need to do is to close ranks and forge a better path for a greater Yoruba nation. You are right, but BAT also contributed to the division. He can't been isolated from the whole issue facing us as a people. That is history, though, BAT is in the position now to mend fences with his people and stop acting like an orphan. Whatever his agenda is, he needs most Yoruba leaders beside/behind him. "One man mopol" takes no one anywhere -- he can't do it himself! |
Politics › Re: Yorùbá Nation: What Do We Want? by llakes4real: 2:14am On Jul 12, 2020*. Modified: 9:41am On Jul 12, 2020 |
Politicians are all like that -- they are only thinking about the next election. Regardless of what goes wrong around them, they are only focused about winning the next election.
I wish the Yoruba nation the best, anyway, because this country is just too complex for any ethnic group to try to force things. There are those who live amongst us, but despise us. There are those we call cousins, but jealous and envy us. And there are those who love their religion more than being Yoruba. Also, people who has always been enemies from time immemorial! Patience should be our watchword, so these people don't all deal with us collectively. |
Politics › Re: If Only Igbo And Yorubas Could Unite, If Only by llakes4real: 10:50pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
APCdestroyer: Delta cannot ever be subservient to Edo
An Edo boy hating Yoruba, Can u imagine. He relies on Igbo and delta as allies of which they're not. Yoruba has been their best allies right from the time of immemorial but these indomie generation Edo can be funny He might be an Igboid minority in Edo state. I am pretty sure he doesn't represent majority of the people in Edo state. But, we have to attempt to bring them all closer, anyway. I think, some of their bashing here, could be their way of showing us some awkward love. |
Politics › Re: If Only Igbo And Yorubas Could Unite, If Only by llakes4real: 6:28pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
edoboy74: With the way nigeria is going, if we are to be truthful to ourselves even our children will witness the same tribal war and under development we are facing today  we can try to make things better for them whether in Nigeria or outside it -- we can only try! |
Politics › Re: If Only Igbo And Yorubas Could Unite, If Only by llakes4real: 3:30pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: If Only Igbo And Yorubas Could Unite, If Only by llakes4real: 2:05pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
edoboy74: If you don’t then go back to the pit of hell where you belong... your mission was to steal, kill and destroy which is what you are doing presently so please get behind Satan  I just hope you are joking! Anyway, don't make it personal. Imagine a people of a great kingdom have been reduced to a simp! |
Politics › Re: If Only Igbo And Yorubas Could Unite, If Only by llakes4real: 1:32pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
edoboy74: The man said I’m socked in the past. I believe you are either a Muslim or a Christian, do me a Favor to justify your claim by doing away with your holy book and never abide or return to it teachings.
The link you provided was a biased one you should educate yourself with the link I sent you sir.
And as for every other thing you said I didn’t draw any argument to your claim so don’t bring one, Delta state has already been ahead of Edo state in terms of development, we are one and you can’t create a war with your new argument you are imposing on me between both states, we are more united and share similar culture and tradition than you can imagine I don't hold on to any so called "holy book", so I do away with useless history! Don't worry, when the time comes, the Ijaw and other tribes in Delta would humble you lot. Continue masturbating about some past you can't prove! Rubbish! |
Politics › Re: If Only Igbo And Yorubas Could Unite, If Only by llakes4real: 1:11pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
edoboy74: It’s now you know it’s a free world yeah? I thought you where ranting with your baseless link, you no fit talk now, abeg shift.
Abeg we don’t have anything in common with the Yorubas, you guys are find of stealing our culture that is why you see things like that. Just because Delta have a lot of Igbo immigrants via nearness of states and boundaries they are already claiming Delta to be Igbo and we have delta Igbo meanwhile, Edo state and Delta where one until modern day civilisation until it was formally referred to as BEN-DEL and now Benin and Delta, how come the entire bini and delta are not Yorubas? Bros go and sleep you need it
Please tell your Yoruba kings, clans and people to stay clear away from Edo & benin stop the controversies and you guys should go make credible research about your history. The link was to educate you about the relationship. Obviously, you have a problem with comprehension or you are just being mischievous! See my message to you below. Please read it carefully! I was telling you about a connection, and not some unless superiority contest. Which of those kings have the power they had then? So why the useless comparison? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sunnewsonline.com/significance-of-oba-ewuares-visit-to-arole-oduduwa/amp/?espv=1
You stand to gain nothing hating Yoruba people at large, if you have a problem with someone, face him or her. Unnecessary hate would take you nowhere. So calm down!
If any Yoruba person make you insecure, please do you own back to the person!
And Yoruba are not interested in Edo being part of Oduduwa Republic! Yoruba and Bini people, not Edo are cousins, so there is nothing your hate can do about that! So you think Delta people would still want to be subservient to you? You are too soaked in the past and clearly you are ignorant of the present day realities! Bini people and other minorities in Edo state would need Delta people and not the other way around! They are far bigger than you now, so quoting some unless history would not change anything. |
Politics › Re: Biafra Won’t Have A Navy Armed Forces by llakes4real: 12:50pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Iceberg3: Austria Switzerland Luxembourg is a very small country without access to sea but it's far richer and better than the world zzu capital  And are Biafrans half as smart as those people? |