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Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 9:00am On Jan 28
SIRTeee15:


In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. 2 (This was the first census that took place while[a] Quirinius was governor of Syria.) 3 And everyone went to their own town to register.


Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the great who died 4BC. Quirinus became governor of Syria covering Judea in 6CE after the removal of one of Herod's son archeulas- this must have been 10 yrs after Jesus was born.

When Quirinus became governor, he conducted a census for taxation purpose in Judea region in 6CE. This census was well known in history because it elicited a Jewish revolt led by Judas of Galilee.

Now Luke wanted his readers to understand that the census he was referring to wasnt the popular one conducted in 6CE but an earlier one which was done few years prior.

It's been said Quirinus held administrative power in the Syria region prior to becoming governor as part of a dual governorship with Gaius Sentius Saturninus, the former holding military and the latter political power.

Luke 2.2 in greek koine could also mean ‘this was the registration before Quirinius was governor of Syria.’

This would mean that before the ‘famous’ AD 6 census of Quirinius, another one was carried out.

Qurinius wouldn't carry out anymore census after the disastrous one of 6CE. 'this the first census' mentioned in Luke 2.2 could only mean prior to 6CE which was during the reign of Herod the great.

Where is the evidence for this first census?
Religion / Re: This Atheist Says He Died And Returned - Now, He Believes In God by LordReed2nd(m): 8:40am On Jan 25
LordReed:


Dude, Kenneth Hagin, really? LoLz.
Religion / Re: This Atheist Says He Died And Returned - Now, He Believes In God by LordReed2nd(m): 8:31am On Jan 25
FRANCISTOWN:

Well, I agree with you that there are some atheists who believe supernatural phenomenon. To me, that feels very funny.
I mean someone doesn't believe God because there is no proof of it, but he believes the supernatural (of which there is no proof of it as well)
To me and to many others what will agree. Those ones are not atheists.
I don't know if you're feeling me?

I feel you on the no proof for supernatural beings part but I still class them as atheist, their failure to maintain critical evaluation standards notwithstanding.

All these stories and beliefs about supernatural beings remind me of when I was a kid watching G-Force and Voltron, wishing with every Fibre of my being that I was one those exciting heros leaping, fighting and piloting awesome machines. When you grow up you know these were fantasies and you cherish them for what they are, instead of maintaining them as some kind of proof of another world or realm. It is so freaking childish to me right now.
Religion / Re: This Atheist Says He Died And Returned - Now, He Believes In God by LordReed2nd(m): 5:39am On Jan 25
FRANCISTOWN:

Well, in the grand scheme of things. I'd just stick to Wiktionary.

Deity:
1.Synonym of divinity: the state, position, or fact of being a god.
2.A supernatural divine being; a god or goddess.

Atheist:
A person who believes that no deities(supernatural divine being)exist.
Antonym: Theist

Supernatural divine beings are not the same as supernatural beings.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 5:37am On Jan 25
Aemmyjah:


They are not product of evolution accident shey?

Define accident.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 9:01pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:


Ok
My bad
I accept that
And it adds to my collection and I say thank you cos of my limited understanding of the word chemicals

Now,
Looking at how the DNA is formed
The nucleotides, Pentose and all that
Are they just from the random mix of just any chemicals or elements... Remember they have their own sub-units and structure...

Did they just happen by chance?

Now that you accept that they are chemicals the next step is to understand that chemicals have set way of behaving thus they always in the same proportions react the same way. Which means every time you bring together 2 molecules of hydrogen and 1 molecule of oxygen you will get 1 molecule of H2O aka water. Protein formation is way more complex but follows the same principles, when nitrogen, carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and others are mixed in the right conditions they will produce amino acids which in turn produce proteins. THIS IS NOT RANDOM CHANCE, their formation is inevitable where ever the conditions for chemical reactions are met just like the formation of water.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 8:46pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:


Nucleotides are not chemicals sir. I hope you studied DNA well
You can't teach me something that yu don't even understand 1%

Have you even considered how their makeup to happen just by Chance? It's more than impossible

Wrong! They are organic compounds and an organic compound is in fact a chemical!

You keep alluding to something I never said. Point to where I said DNA came by chance.

Religion / Re: This Atheist Says He Died And Returned - Now, He Believes In God by LordReed2nd(m): 8:36pm On Jan 24
FRANCISTOWN:

Anyone who believes in any form of supernatural being is a theist.

Not quite. Not all supernatural beings are gods and it is people who believe in supernatural beings described as gods who are theists. You can lack belief in gods and yet believe supernatural beings exist.

See here: https://thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/47929

Or just look up Raelism, the wiki link is wonky.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 8:33pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:


What is DNA made of? DNA is made of chemical building blocks called nucleotides. These building blocks are made of three parts: a phosphate group, a sugar group and one of four types of nitrogen bases...

You're just throwing fire to distract an argument on scientific fact. I said DNA has codes, you say something else. De olay6

Lemme ask you a yes or no question: are the nucleotides chemicals, yes or no.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 8:27pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:


😂 🤣 😂
You be clown walahi
Anti-science agent

And you are an asswipe. LoLz.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 8:25pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:



In that case, you know absolutely nothing about genetics and DNA cos the answers to those two questions are yes and they are scientific facts that you can examine for yourself in the lab. Ignoramus

LMAO! Look at this dumbfucktard who thinks abbreviating proteins to the first letters of their names means they are a code. You are too stupid to learn and until you admit that to yourself you'll be stuck in this loop of stupidity.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 8:19pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:



U are very ignorant
It's a shame how atheism has locked your brain to reality
Science says that earth has a perfect tilt and orbit and that was so as to sustain life
Is that a result of blind chance?

And you are so very dumb that you can't understand simple English.

Science never said such a thing you dum dumb.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 8:17pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:



Does DNA has codes? Yes or No?
DNA undergoes translation (as geneticists term it) Yes or No?

Lemme bring your understanding down to primary Yes or No questions

Big fat NO!!! I dunno how many times you will be told that.
Religion / Re: The war between the forces of good and the forces of evil. by LordReed2nd(m): 6:59pm On Jan 24
elated177:



What gave you such impression?

Your words I quoted. It is very easy to deduce that you are struggling with same sex attraction and you feel that speaking out against it is what will give you power over it. Plus your other characterizations of yourself, for instance you are not married and you isolate yourself a lot.

Dude you are struggling with it, no need to lie to yourself. This is not a condemnation, everyone has things they struggle against. But condemning others about the same thing you are struggling with will only increase your guilt and make it harder for yourself.
Family / Re: If Your Grandma Slaps Your Mum In Your Presence What Will You Do? by LordReed2nd(m): 6:49pm On Jan 24
omoakinsola:
Yes! What will you do if your grandma slaps your mum in your presence.

Tell her that she is setting a bad example of how to be an adult.

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Religion / Re: Are There Atheist Who Want To Repent And Get Back With Jesus? by LordReed2nd(m): 6:48pm On Jan 24
Jackanda1:
Why not site an example? What vision did you have?

Did I say I had a vision?
Religion / Re: This Atheist Says He Died And Returned - Now, He Believes In God by LordReed2nd(m): 6:46pm On Jan 24
jesusjnr2020:
Thanks for proving me right that you will still hold fast to your hypocrisy, despite the Op proving your assertion on my thread wrong, hence it would have been a waste of time mentioning you.

The bolded below was the basis you provided for calling it a fake story:



This bolded below was what the atheist himself claimed he said at the critical moment when he was dying of lack of breath:

If he didn't make it alive, and I added his last words to the list, you will still call it a fake story, abi?

Or you will still ask me for evidence since I wasn't there myself?

Try and calm down a bit and observe carefully how the former atheist proved your words @ bolded above to be ignorant, but i wouldn't be surprised if you even doubt his story and call it fake too, despite the fact he narrated it himself, not me. Anything that seems to go against your anti-religious sentiments must be fake.

Damn sure you wouldn't have come after me calling my story fake, if It said instead their last words were "atheism til death".

Bwahahahahaha! Pot calling kettle black. After I proved that your story was fake you refused to respond to my last post below. Keep lying for Jesus nah, that's what you are good at. LoLz!

Religion / Re: Are There Atheist Who Want To Repent And Get Back With Jesus? by LordReed2nd(m): 6:34pm On Jan 24
Jackanda1:
I'm seeing this for the first time. Did you really speak in tongues and see in the spirit?

Can you throw more light please?

Sometimes it is funny seeing people's reactions to former Christians. You act as if we don't know what we are talking about, as if all the things you think are divine are not things we experienced. Speaking in tongues, visions, revelations, prophecy, dreams, name it, you'd find an atheist who has experienced 1 or more. To be clear, there is nothing divine in any of these things, till today I still experience some of them.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 5:58pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:



The earth is rotating is a fact or probability?
Dis guy just de jonze

You don't even know what you are objecting to. It was both. When the earth was forming there was a chance that it would emerge tidally locked and not rotate.

I urge you to go back to school, at least primary school since it looks like you can still wear uniform and sit on their seats. Kindergarten teachers will reject you as too big but that's where you really belong.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 5:52pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:


So they are just A C G T right?
DNA has codes
Have you studied genetics before?
Codes are evidence of intelligence because you have to translate from one language to another.
Will you tell us there is no translation in DNA?
Can translation of a language happen by accident?
You're suffering from ignorance and arrogance but you say I have poor education cool

Bwahahahahaha! I am sure you think when they express DNA strings as arrangements of A C G T is what you are calling code.

LoLz! Do you even know what translation is with regards to DNA? I bet you think it means to translate it into English. Bwahahahahaha! OMFD! LMFAO!
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 5:47pm On Jan 24
Aemmyjah:


A man and a woman meeting together is probable or an event. It may happen and it may not happen. One may remain a Eunuch
The earth has always been rotating, it has not stopped for a second, so hiw does it compare to two people meeting? Which school did you say you go to again?

The earth's formation was also a probable event, one that also could have or could not have happened. It's rotating on its own axis was another probable event, one that also could have or could not have happened.

Go back to kindergarten and learn English so they can teach you what comparison means
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 5:42pm On Jan 24
SIRTeee15:


Watch 1.5 hrs of Bart Erhman doing shalaye when he himself admitted his gist of a book didn't nullify the core Christian belief.

U watch and tell me if he actually denied ever saying the quote I brought up here.
That's all I care about.

Dude I bookmarked the exact spot for you. Lemme post the transcript so you can verify it yourself.

Religion / Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by LordReed2nd(m): 5:30pm On Jan 24
TheAdvocate:


Still fine with it bro. Whosoever is President, Jesus is Lord. 🔥💪

Just tell Jesus to build more roads and while he's at it a few more power generating stations too.
Religion / Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by LordReed2nd(m): 3:01pm On Jan 23
OLAADEGBU:


Quit splitting hairs. Try harder. cheesy

No you keep trying, may be you'll gain sense.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 3:00pm On Jan 23
Aemmyjah:


What do you even know about the DNA? It's far more complex that the most complex computer language but you can believe a computer language has no programmer if that is logical to you

Bwahahahahaha! You who is confusing the abbreviation of the proteins A C G T and the various combinations of these proteins with a computer code. No matter how complex chemicals get they still follow the principles that govern chemical reactions. DNA is still a chemical and still follows the principles that guided its formation. You inability to understand that simple fact shows just how poor your education really is.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 2:51pm On Jan 23
Aemmyjah:



Stupid comparison
Are atheists all dumb in thinking?
How does rotation of the Earth compare with a man meeting a woman?
Your folly can make you a billionaire if you sell it walahi

Just say you don't know the meaning of "just as definitive". That means the Earth rotating on its axis happening was just as sure as your dad meeting your mum.

You keep revealing that you are very lacking in education the more you respond.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 2:47pm On Jan 23
SIRTeee15:


How do U know it's not Bart Erhman. Have u read his book misquoting Jesus.
U people seem to hold this guy in some god-like infallible esteem.

Read page 252 of misquoting Jesus Q&A edition, the statement is there.

https://isjesusalive.com/are-the-doctrines-of-christianity-effected-by-textual-variants-even-bart-ehrman-says-no/

Rather you are one making Bart Ehrman the authority since it was you who brought him up so why don't you listen to his actual words from his actual mouth instead of relying on editorialised versions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfheSAcCsrE?t=3874

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Religion / Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by LordReed2nd(m): 9:39am On Jan 23
OLAADEGBU:


The fact that you Dems voted to kill a bill that required ICE to be notified when illegals purchases a gun says all I need to know about your hypocrisy about gun control. cheesy

LoLz. You don't even know what you are talking about. It was an amendment to a gun control bill, the bill passed btw. Quit while you are ahead or you'll just be exposing your no sense even more.
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 9:36am On Jan 23
Aemmyjah:



Kindly mention any source or reference today that says Abiogenesis is a fact
LordReed - 'Snowflakes is a wonder of mindless chance' 😆

There we go no conversation without you lying. Quote where I said this if you aren't lying once again.
Religion / Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by LordReed2nd(m): 9:23am On Jan 23
OLAADEGBU:


You can do better than that. Try harder. grin

LMAO! You bring a tired old canard and I am the one who needs to do better. Bwahahahahaha!
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 9:20am On Jan 23
Aemmyjah:



The end result result is new offsprings
What is the chance that offsprings could emerge without 2 humans meeting... Your illustration of chemicals is very poor as regards to life and complexity

The chance is zero same way the if chemicals don't come into contact the won't react. DNA didn't form from thin air so I don't know what you mean by "very poor as regards to life and complexity".
Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed2nd(m): 9:17am On Jan 23
Aemmyjah:


My dad definitely will meet my mum and offsprings will be produced right? So something was already involved and in place.

Is it by accident that the earth is rotating on its axis?

The earth rotating its axis was just as definitive as you dad meeting your mum.

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