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Kimbeast:
Bring out one evidence that your fairytale daddy exists.

God deliberately hid Himself bkos Men rejected God,,so he decided to hide himself till man learns from his wrong and repent wholeheartedly before God will reveal Himself as God...from Adam hiding in d garden to d children of Israel preferring only Moses to speak with God,,to d Israelites asking God to give dem a king instead of allowing God to guide dem directly....this is why God is no longer in d scene,,so people like u now concluded he doesn't exist l...it's not Ur fault,,d early men drove Him out of d scene

A001:
Lols. Humans are limited, including your god.

Being an atheist doesn't make a person all-knowing.

My God is not limited bkos he doesn't exist in time like we humans are...Infact DS tin called time has really dealt a huge blow to man it has hindered
us from knowing many tinz....My God is d Landlord of the multiverse...he can't be limited

Kimbeast:
The only “evidence” for a God are dusty scrolls written by goat herders in the Bronze Age.

Wat are d evidences for big bang theory and evolution?

A001:
It's not a belief. It's a position or a possibility (put mildly).

Human beings have suffered sha,,we are so limited and confused...Even among u atheists,,u guys are divided....Is our God not wonderful?

A001:
There are various pieces of evidence in support of the Big Bang Theory, and it's the best theory that we have today explaining the origin of the Universe.

This piece explains the theory:

What is the Big Bang Theory? https://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html

In the coming years, scientists will make a lot of progress on that theory because of the successful design and deployment of the most powerful telescope in the world and in history, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST).

The JWST is parked in Lagrangian points in space and will peer back into our distant past to gather data about the the origin of the Universe.

(Lagrangian points are areas in the Earth orbit with weak gravitational force reducing the fuel needed to maintain a satellite, telescope, and similar equipment.)

In the coming years, the device will send its data back to the Earth for scientists to check and analyze.

When it comes to the question of the origin of the Universe, scientists give us the best answers, which are refined and improved on daily with more and more discoveries.

But the religious texts only give answers that look vague like childish tales, invoking one god or the other to account for the origin of the universe.

The scientific method is better than the religious (divine) method because the former is open to questioning and skepticism, isn't based on dogmas, allows for objectivity, and is revised from time to time.

The fact that what we know as humans pales in comparison with what we don't know doesn't necessitate the existence of a supernatural entity called God.

Evolution is a well established phenomenon in science, and Neo-Darwinism is one of the most solid theories in science.

Everything changes (evolves) over time, but evolution doesn't accurately account for the origin of life on Earth.

My own position based on my research on the subject is that the following theories all account for the origin of life on this planet:
1. The Big Bang
2. Evolution
3. Intelligent Design
4. Panspermia (which states life began elsewhere in the Universe and was distributed by space dust, meteoroids, asteroids, comets, planetoids, and spacecraft)

In the coming years, more advances will be made in these areas.

By the time one delves deeper into how life began on Earth, one will realize that given the highly complex nature of life on this planet, there has to be an intelligent, self-conscious, and self-learning Mind (not a god or God) behind the scene.

Even taking a mere look at the DNA, the genetic building block (code) of life, it's only natural to think there's an intelligent Mind responsible for the design of the code in the DNA.

The level of complexity of the DNA, consciousness, brain, human body, planets, etc. is too high and the fine-tuning of certain aspects of nature (or constants of nature) too carefully done to say all this just occurred by chance.

Still, that doesn't mean God exists or has to exist.

Personally, I regard Existence as a self-conscious, intelligent, and self-learning system which humans, animals, planets, and other things in the Universe are all part of.

In other words, humans, animals, planets, etc. each form a subset (a group, field, or ring with infinite elements) of an infinite, self-conscious, self-learning, and intelligent system or set called Existence.

Then, I don't see the physical reality (world) as the only reality or realm in existence. Those of us that have had near-death experience, lucid dreams, out-of-body experience (OOBE) would have seen other realms of existence, worlds governed by laws of nature different from the physical world.

(I recall when I'd an out-of-body experience for the first time in 2005, where I saw myself floating over my body, looking at myself lying on the bed; then, as a religious person, I thought death had come, and because I was scared, my consciousness quickly drifted back into my body, and I woke up in fright, praying fervently never to be in such a state.

But now I know better that ours is just one of the many realms of existence, having had OOBE many times over the past decade. OOBE is like lucid dreaming and when one dies, it looks like OOBE at first.

The only difference is that in death, one transitions permanently into another world or realm, not temporarily like in OOBEs.

That's why our wise forefathers in Yoruba say ìkú dabi aajo aremabọ, meaning death is like a journey with no return. Having that experience (OOBE) is like going on a journey into space.

OOBEs, like lucid dreaming, are a journey into oneself, the deepest corners of one's brain, which is one's inner world.)

But these are personal experiences which can be subjective. Still, these phenomena suggest the existence of the multiverse.

It's scientifically possible that ours is just one of the many (maybe infinite) universes in existence, and like theoretical physicists such as nobel laureate Roger Penrose posit, other universe(s) exists
But that's not an established fact in science yet.

So u believe in d existence of a Multiverse ,, Havertz10 come and see Ur colleague

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Havertz10:
it’s called a theory because it’s not proven, James Webb telescope will give us a few answers soon, but unlike you, I don’t resign to the believe that some insecure maniac with self esteem issues created the universe

Arguments in support of the notion that god exist are stupid and flawed, you aren’t the first set of people that have been misled into believing trash, una plenty, this foolishness has been reintroducing itself by various means for centuries, printing press and the bullshit of heaven gave you guys your current madness

Until u can tell me who or what d first ape to d 5th generation mated with to get to homo sapiens sapiens,,Ur ideology remains flawed....that's d mistake u must correct....I rest my case for now

Havertz10:
who created the Bible? Cause you are acting like if it’s a perfect book

By create I mean compile and edited

D Holyspirit inspired Prophets to write d Bible... Pastors and teachers are not supposed to interpret d Bible,,bkos they do so in error

Havertz10:
they mated themselves, and certain features naturally occurred that were desirable, those features were prioritized during courtship till we arrived at present day human, i’m simplifying it for you


You are asking me to think? How was Elijah able to breath in the vacuum of space on his way to heaven? Did his chariot of fire also contain a spacesuit or magic occurred and god created a bubble with adequate pressure and oxygen to sustain him on his journey to heaven that is obviously nowhere close, given that we have looked at distant galaxies and still can’t find heaven, guessing he either flew for a while or he disappeared into heaven, or maybe a portal opened, if that was the case, what was the whole point of the chariot of fire? And ascension, that bullshit was so rad that conman Jesus plagiarized it

Think

Let's stick to d discussion,, like I've already said,, the Bible was written by Prophets,,only a true prophet can decode some events we can't understand in d Bible,,not u and I...

So tell me something,,were d apes asexual in nature,, how were they reproducing till they produced man and suddenly stopped at man...Y have they not preceded further after so many centuries?

Havertz10:
well bb didn’t tell the sun to stand still for an insignificant battle

Given that it’s the earth that orbits the sun, it means that for that Bible verse to be valid, then it’s the earth that stopped spinning, should we do the maths on what will happen, if that occurs

How about languages being birthed at the Tower of Babel, just thinking about religion annoys me, the amount of stupidity behind its lore is baffling and the fact that you guys accept those trash as truths is why the world is the way it is

The answer is simple....d Bible was written by Prophets,,it will take only a Prophet who God has given spiritual foresight to decode certain tinz dat happened beyond physical eyes ... unfortunately the Bible is being preached to us by pastors and teachers who are limited bkos they lack spiritual capacity to see.... blind people can't lead blind people Daz Y there's chaos today about religion

Segedinho:
Only if u know how dumb your claims are...

You will probably neefld to breathe and carefully understand what you are typing b4 you engage...


You claim present day human exists as a result of unplanned breeding wch according to yoiu is synonymous to evolution..


You claim human will have to undergo selective breeding in other to get the next phase.


Did the ape-like men under-went the selective breeding to get the to human phase... What did they mate with?

Cos human to human will give human irrespective of the height and coloration

And your emphasy on evolving is just height and coloration wch is definite not evolution

D guy has suddenly gone numb

Havertz10:
and a university gave you certificate, later people will say that I should focus on Nigeria and leave geopolitics, with people like you existing as aggregate majority, there is no hope for anybody to accomplish anything locally

But d guy ask a very sane question... wat were apes mating with b4 they produced humans....is evolution not crazy to u...bkos I don't understand how apes mated with apes and just progressed to become humans... something is wrong here... think

Havertz10:
well bb didn’t tell the sun to stand still for an insignificant battle

Given that it’s the earth that orbits the sun, it means that for that Bible verse to be valid, then it’s the earth that stopped spinning, should we do the maths on what will happen, if that occurs

How about languages being birthed at the Tower of Babel, just thinking about religion annoys me, the amount of stupidity behind its lore is baffling and the fact that you guys accept those trash as truths is why the world is the way it is

D BB will never be proved,, just forget it... but as for evolution,, there are some aspects where it may be useful,,we live in a multiverse and not just a universe as we were made to believe,,there are many unknowns to be discovered...there are many strange creatures we don't know...dat is wat makes God d creator

Capaldi:
The big bang is a theory meaning more research is still being carried out and it's not a definite explanation. It's better than believing in a fairytale.

How many years will it take dem to get a QED on dat research... every oda theory has been proved,, only big bang still on research...hmmmm let's put it DS way,,since d beginning of God can't be proved,,d BB too will have no proof QED

Havertz10:
my reply is simple, if we factor empirical evidence, it’s only a fool that will believe that there is a god

And abeg spare me that bullshit, so a story book said that anybody that doubts it’s bullshit is a fool, automatically means what? Those guys that drafted that trash aren’t clever at all

D same evidence dat was created by d "big bang" theory,,since Daz wat u believe...they told u d big bang is real and u believed it....ever since den every bang leads to destruction,,we have never seen another creative bang since d "first" one happen...keep deceiving ursef

Trevor012:
What made your club trophyless this season after spending 100million on Lukaku

Super cup and club world cup are spoons to u abi

donstan18:
You’ll 100% doubt that religious version of Chinua Achebe’s craft if you read it very well with an open mind.

Read it. Don’t read it with foolishness, but with common sense. You’ll thank me later.

Who's Chinua Achebe for crying out Loud...is he a prophet or a pastor,,I don't understand

Trevor012:
Before I forget

U are happy for headers dat still made u trophy less DS season

donstan18:
Oga read your Bible.

I've read d Bible and didn't find it,,,u bring it out since u saw it

Havertz10:
old testament is irrelevant remember, let’s take the latest update from the New Testament

There are 2 tinz here....First,,,A fool says "there is no God"... meaning dat u make ursef a fool by ursef d minute u say there is no God,,, nobody has to call u dat..

Second if a man call his brother a fool,,he's in danger of hell....these are clearly not d same tin

Later u will call ursef woke,, simple English u can't understand

Kimbeast:
From Genocide to Rape, Slavery, Pedophilia, Child marriage, Sexism, Slavery, Child pregnancy, infanticide etc Your God condoned them all. Your God is fucking Evil and barbaric. Only an insane piece of worthless Sh.it will worship such a God.

Where was rape,,pedophilla,,child marriage,,sexism,,child pregnancy,, infanticide and all d oda nonsense u wrote found in d Bible....that should be in d Quran,,not Bible,,bring out Ur support verses

Kimbeast:
What sort of gibberish are these.

U started d gibberish

Kimbeast:
Only an insane person would read and then support the bible. The amount of barbaric and evil things your God condoned and participated in was scary. From Genocide to Rape, Slavery, Pedophilia, Child marriage, Sexism, Slavery, Child pregnancy, infanticide etc . The list is endless.

very funny but true talk,,,only insane people can believe in d Bible...only insane people break records and do wonders in ds world....u have to be insane to get d best out of DS world...it's not a normal world.. normal people get destroyed...see someone's status below...Na sane people dem massacre for Lekki toolgate,,whereas some insane abokis dey destroy lives and properties round d country and government can't do dem nothing..keep being sane and normal,,u go dey well Las las

Kimbeast:
Psalm 137:9 — “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.”


Isaiah 13:9:

“Now, the day of the LORD is coming — cruel, and full of wrath and fierce anger… (16) Their little ones will be dashed to pieces before their eyes. Their houses will be looted, and their wives will be raped.”

Wetin DS quote mean now....are u in support of d Bible or against?

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Guardiola will be so sad Chelsea were not able to remove Madrid
I love football whenever Guardiola loses

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Isoright


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Do u know how to validate Nin with d app?

Chijeep:
K

I want to buy d stabilizer

Praktikals:
Amaechi is not contesting. Give us starboy.
Igbos cannot be trusted.

D Hausas and Yorubas u have trusted all dz years,,wat have they achieved?? Suffa no dey Taya una

donjazet:
I'm having bad vibes about this match. These players better perform.

Hope you are having good vibes now?

Exonerate1:
We spent 100million on a striker for cup games.

How many very important games does Grealish play for City...We all know Lukaku was a mistake,, without Lukaku we won d UCL,, d manager is still trying to bring best out of d squad.. priority is to win games and trophies

sonofElElyon:
You say so because this one is small. By the time a massive meteor hits the earth you'll know that its a serious matter.. the bible (book of revelation) says a very big one is coming..

Are u a Gospel pillar?