sonmvayina:


Lucifer is a title and it means " light bearer"

Exoterically it means "mother of the light"..

And the Christian Bible makes us to understand that Jesus is the light..so putting 2 and 2 together....

Lucifer is the so called queen of heaven, that elevated her self to the pantheon. She is inanna, the daughter of Nanna who is the moon god (ie the devil). Her grandfather is Enlil the god of the wind..Inanna stole the Mes from Enki and took them to her city Uruk. She was then elevated to the pantheon and Ninmah was withdrawn..She was never path of the Elohim,(which is a group of seven senior gods)
She is the morning star(Venus)

The truth hidden in plain sight..

It is quite interesting.... Babylonian/sumerian myths...

I don’t think Lucifer is Inana. You’re talking about Lilith. She is not Lucifer. Lucifer is the morning star, light bringer. I agree with you the truth is hidden

sonmvayina:
Lucifer is the Orisha of love, war, death and destruction...
She is the goddess of love...

She is Mary the mother of jesus....

Exmilitant:
Nah, don't generalize.

there is not specific being called lucifer.

Lucifer means light bringer. I’m going with what the Bible and preachers are saying. Now the question is who is Lucifer?

I have my own view and what Lucifer means and some roles he played in the life of humans

Exmilitant:
Like the Indians whose religion predates the Bible abi?

There are so many religions that predates the Bible and some of them are more detailed

Dtruthspeaker:


So you are back to the Bible which clearly shows us how every tribe and language came to be plus the fact that they moved to others parts of the world. Thus the origins of all people still comes and lands on the Bible.

I’m not saying Bible don’t have its history or is different from other tribe but am trying to say Bible wasn’t the whole story and we were told every powerful one was God which is not

Dtruthspeaker:


Because since death was already there unactivated, Life too must be there, unactivated too.



Stop talking rubbish. The word "Emmanuel", Genesis 2:7, Genesis 6:3, John 1:4, Ezekiel 37:14

"And i shall put my Spirit in you and ye shall live".

So you see, you are full of shit and madness.

Who is the creator of the universe and the creator of Adam? If death wasn’t activated and also life, are you trying to tell me that it was already planned that man will definitely eat the fruit then a decision of either activating the fruit of life back to man or to leave it the way it is death? Why was it the fruit at the garden at the first place?

Dtruthspeaker:


Whatever people or tribe you focus on, all starts with them moving from somewhere else to settle down in the place they settled. So in the end you still land on the Bible.

Why was Adam? What purpose?

Dtruthspeaker:


Whatever people or tribe you focus on, all starts with them moving from somewhere else to settle down in the place they settled. So in the end you still land on the Bible.

Yes because there was a creation of man and as human multiply they are to settle down in places which is in every tribe and also in the Bible.

Exmilitant:
Are you generalizing?

Yes I am and I also want to know your own view

Dtruthspeaker:


You are talking rubbish for you do not appreciate that we die because God takes His Life from us, which He did not plan to do before the eating of the fruit.

Therefore, Adam was eternal because God was dwelling with them.

If Adam was eternal why was the fruit of life of eternity at the garden? Was it for the animals? Was Adam and his wife going to be the only humans on the garden of Eden and the rest of the world or was there supposed to be other humans outside the Eden and won’t have eternal life because they were not in the Eden. Adam wasn’t dwelling with God the creator of the universe but with yahweh. Jesus who died in the Bible was one of the powerful ones born in the likeness of man

Exmilitant:
Our gods are way more powerful than lucifer.

Who is your God? I know Lucifer, yahweh, Elohim etc are the powerful ones and God is more powerful and creator of the universe because the powerful ones like Lucifer and yahweh are created by God

Exmilitant:
How do i explain to you all that the story about the garden of Eden and Adam and Eve and Lucifer and Yahwhe and Satan are mere stories of some people's origin?

How do i explain to you that lucifer was hoisted on us by the Jews and early christians and that every tribes and nations of the world has their own version of their origin, their own concept of God and spirituality in general?

Lucifer might be good to his/her devotees, Amadioha might also be good to his/her devotees.

Lucifer was hoisted to us as evil by the early Christians to set rules so they can govern the nations or it can also be because some words were mistranslated

orisa37:
THE SOURCE OF MY BEING HUMAN. THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION.

Do you know who exactly created the humans?

Dtruthspeaker:


Now you are lying for everyman has evil thoughts and you mixing the fact that maybe you did not carry out the evil thought you had in mind for absence of evil thoughts.

Every man has evil thoughts.



He pushed Eve to become mortal where she was eternal. He caused her to greatly suffer and to even be lesser than her mate.
He caused all this even before she gave birth to children to who would have been eternal but now the whole world and the billions that have been born, past, present, future, in this world die because of Satan successfully got Eve to die before she even gave birth.

So, there is no one to match his murdering record.

Human were not eternal because the fruit of eternity and the knowledge of good and evil was still at the garden of Eden, so man was meant to die. You need to read other books and get more details about the creation of man. Lucifer is one of the powerful ones same with yahweh. God is the founder and creator not the powerful ones. He created the powerful ones, and they all report to him. I’m not talking about God. Who is God to you?

Carcholce:
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People mistake God as the powerful ones. The guys here think Yahweh or el elyon is the creator

Who is your God?

Yahweh
Jehovah
Elohim
El shaddai
Adonai etc?

Carcholce:


You don’t know what thermodynamics is?

Please come and answer let’s find out if I am really mad or Na you nor know book. You guys on this section thinks everyone is delusional if they not directly talking about God or talking against God.

I agree with you on that. The guys on this section don’t think outside the box, they don’t read and want to learn

Dtruthspeaker:


And you wonder why you have evil thoughts that put you in trouble.

2) Zombies and robots do not give names to things neither do they say "hey babe" when they see woman.

I don’t have evil thoughts and I try to make sure I don’t hurt anyone.
That was just an example of how we would be living. If Lucifer is evil as you said please can you list the evil deeds in the Bible and also that of yahway

yrhuhfy113:


Does vomit erupt out of you?

my dear go and sit somewhere and study your bible and ancient texts properly.

DID CREATION OCCUR ONCE?

Who has the record of angels creation.... and who has the road map of the places lucifer went to without God's permission.....

don't angry me

There was no record of angels creation. If you read other ancient texts about the Gilgamesh and the annunaki you will get to know more about the creation of man and how enki who we call Lucifer helped in the creation of man and also assisting helping Noah with the ark. God created the knowledge of good and evil and that’s what makes life balance because the powerful ones have the knowledge of good and evil so it’s already in existence but yahway don’t want man to be equal or be like them the powerful ones so we will work endlessly as slaves and don’t come together as one to find our own independent, which Lucifer refused with the council and told Eve to eat the fruit that’s it’s not going to kill man rather make man be like the powerful ones then Lucifer have been a condemned. Lucifer went to the heavens with other angels and yahway asked him questions.
My question is why did he go to the heavens without other angels of yahway knowing?
Why did yahway ask him to go tempt job

yrhuhfy113:


LUCIFER is truly NOT bad. We never said he was a bad guy.

What the bible explains is that He started out GOOD but became The Evil (D-evil).... because SIN was found in him.

He is not bad but EVIL .

Thanks for the correction. Did evil erupt out of Lucifer or was it created also wit during the creation and Lucifer was the first to become evil? (Lucifer is not evil)

Note: God is the creator of the whole universe and yahway and Lucifer are the powerful ones. Please take note. I’m not comparing them with God, am talking about Lucifer and yahwah who are mentioned in the Old Testament. Not every powerful ones in the Bible is God. Elohim, El shaddie, etc are not always referring to God the creator

How is Lucifer evil. Is that because he made mankind eat the fruit of knowledge of Good and evil. Why is yahwah keeping the fruit away f rom humans and why was adam told he will die when he eats the fruit because Yahway do want us to be like them. Imagine you without knowing good and evil, we would be like a robot or zombies. Lucifer is only trying to make human free, with our own consciousness and free will

Lucifer is not who we think he is. We need to read the Bible carefully, forget the way church preaches. Yahweh and Lucifer. Enlil and Enki