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am not trying to ague either , i just want to kwn from which year those laws was made.afar as i kwn,the german laws as for 2011 states that you are not allowed to be deported if you have have a child in german.with or with out resident permit.(ofcause on of the perent must have permit or eu citzen.)


[quote author=dotcom_na_me_na_me]You're not just the type i'll should ague with, cos am done with KNOW NOTHING like you and your twin brother iluminati on this page https://www.nairaland.com/676173/german-embassy-visa/31 are expert in aguement.. So, i'm not afraid.

Secondly, did ''Surecan'' tell you that his wife is a GERMAN? Some people are just funny, they will just begin dey jump into conclusion like kangaroo when dem no even confirm what they're about to conclude on.. Mtchewwwwwwwwwww

If you don't know anything about German CITIZENSHIP LAW, better you ask those who knows more than you rather than ague what you don't have a clue about ! You know i sabi talk wella...

Now listen!

German citizenship is based primarily on the principle of jus sanguinis. In other words one usually acquires German citizenship if a parent is a German citizen, irrespective of place of birth

A significant reform to the nationality law was passed by the Bundestag (the German parliament) in 1999, and came into force on 1 January 2000. The new law makes it somewhat easier for foreigners resident in Germany on a long-term basis, and especially their German-born children, to acquire German citizenship

Birth in Germany

Children born on or after 1 January 2000 to non-German parents acquire German citizenship at birth if at least one parent:
has a permanent residence permit; and
has been residing in Germany for at least eight years.

Such children will be required to apply successfully to retain German citizenship by the age of 23. Assuming the laws (very unlikely[citation needed]) are not changed prior to 2023, they will normally be required to prove they do not hold any other foreign citizenship. The only exceptions are EU citizens and citizens of countries where it is impossible to lose your citizenship, like Morocco or Iran, for example.
Parents who are citizens of European Economic Area states or Switzerland are eligible to receive permanent resident permits after five years.

Naturalisation by entitlement

An individual who fulfils all of the following criteria has an entitlement to naturalise as a German citizen:
he/she has been ordinarily resident in Germany for at least 8 years (this period can be reduced - see below)
he/she has legal capacity or a legal representative
confirms his/her present and past commitment to the free democratic constitutional system enshrined in the German Basic Law (or that he is presently committed to such principles and has departed from former support of ideas contrary to such principles)
he/she is a European Union or Swiss citizen in possession of the appropriate residence permit which permits the free movement of persons, or he/she is a non-EU/Swiss citizen who has been granted a permanent right of residence
he/she is able to support himself/herself without recourse to benefits
he/she has not been sentenced for an unlawful act and is not subject to any court order imposing a measure of reform and prevention
he/she possesses an adequate knowledge of German
possesses knowledge of the legal system, the society and living conditions in the Federal Republic of Germany
An individual who does not have legal capacity is entitled to naturalise as a German citizen merely through ordinary residence in Germany for at least 8 years - he/she does not have to fulfil the other criteria (e.g. adequate command of the German language and ability to be self-supporting without recourse to benefits).
Applicants for naturalisation are normally expected to prove they have renounced their existing nationality, or will lose this automatically upon naturalisation. An exception applies to those unable to give up their nationality easily (such as refugees). A further exception applies to citizens of Switzerland and the European Union member states.
An individual who is entitled to naturalise as a German citizen can also apply for his/her spouse and minor children to be naturalised at the same time (his/her spouse and minor children need not have ordinarily resided in Germany for at least 8 years).
Exceptions to the normal residence requirements include:
persons who have completed an integration course may have the residence requirement reduced to 7 years
If a person shows that he/she is especially well integrated and has a higher level of command of the German language than the basic requirement for the German citizenship may have the residence requirement reduced to 6 years
The spouse of a German citizen may be naturalised after 3 years of continual residency in Germany. The marriage must have persisted for at least 2 years.
refugees and stateless persons may be able to apply after 6 years of continual residency
former German citizens


The spouse of a German citizen may be naturalised after 3 years of continual residency in Germany. The marriage must have persisted for at least 2 years.
refugees and stateless persons may be able to apply after 6 years of continual residency
former German citizens

Did ''Surecan'' stated his wife is a German?
Does he stated all about Student couple to have baby born there and the child's right to German citizenship? olodo
U think you know how to talk abi?

Residence Act
Chapter 2 - Entry and residence in Germany (§ § 3 - 42 )
Section 6 - family reasons (§ § 27 - 36 )
§ 28
family reunification with Germans

(1) The residence is the foreign

First Spouse of a German,
Second minor unmarried child of a German,
Third Parent of a minor, unmarried Germans to exercise the child's care
be given if the German has his habitual residence in the federal territory. It is different from § 5 para 1 No. 1 issue in the cases of sentence 1, No. 2 and 3. You should usually deviating from § 5 para 1, No. 1 in the cases of sentence 1 No. 1 issued. You can, notwithstanding § 5 para 1 No. 1 of the non-person custodial parent a minor, unmarried Germans will be granted if the family community is lived in Germany. § 30 Abs 1 sentence 1 no 1 and 2, Clause 3 and Section 2 Sentence 1 in the cases of sentence 1 No. 1 apply accordingly.

(2) the alien is to be issued is usually a settlement permit if his three years in possession of a residence permit, continues the family unity with the Germans in Germany, no grounds for expulsion and he can interact in a simple way in German. Moreover, the residence permit will be extended as long as the family unity persists.

(3) § § 31 and 35 are subject to the proviso that in the place of the residence permit of the foreigner, the habitual residence of the German in Germany occurs.

(4) For other family members, § 36 shall apply.

(5) The residence permit for employment purposes.

You know nada my man !

I no get your time again... get other stuffs to deal with ...[/quote]

it depend the kind of permit you have, have you consider checking this(§28 ABS.! satz 1nr.3 aufenthg)if your permit inccude with the § why will you have to stay 8 years.





it depend the kind of permit you have, have you consider checking this(§28 ABS.! satz 1nr.3 aufenthg)if your permit inccude with the § why will you have to stay 8 years to naturalization. you said German citizenship law says: A person is eligible for naturalization once they have lived legally in Germany for eight years and have permanent residence status. can you pls write down the § qoute, i want to see from wich year your are talking about,




[quote author=dotcom_na_me_na_me]Children born in Germany to non-German parents automatically acquire German citizenship at birth, as long as one of the parents has lived in Germany for at least 8 years and has the right of permanent residence
So, even though if both you and your baby mother are in Germany as a student, you’re entitled to NOTHING.
At least, one of you must have residency status and must have lived in Germany for 8 years
RESIDENCY is different from STUDENT VISA. As a student , you are only in Germany to study and they expect you to leave Germany with you baby and the baby mother.
You are only entitled to your baby’s German Birth certificate. That’s all..
German citizenship law says: A person is eligible for naturalization once they have lived legally in Germany for eight years and have permanent residence status.

i dont really have time to reply u question...what do u kwn abaout german law?who is deciving who?
you said germany is not a good place for a first timer without a student visa or residency from Nigeria you are wrong
.with or with without permit you are almost as a german citizen,as far as you are not aways in a wrong places....i lived in many countries and i come to understand that germany is the best place for first timer.since am liveing in germany i nerva come accross police control for onces,if u are in austria as a black person,u will understand what i mean about police stupid control.if you are in germany go to used car spear parts market,ask any nigerian u see there if he even have ADRO paper talk more of permit,german adro might be bad but if u cound survive for one year with out
deportation,u are title to work in germany(check there new law as for 2011),





[quote author=dotcom_na_me_na_me]So, is that a life? having babies for people u don't love all in the name of PAPER.

Secondly, stop misleading people here..

Germany is not the place for first timer without a student visa or residency from Nigeria.
IF you go to Germany with a visit visa and end up as illegal, you're already in the next available flight to the burnt MMIA that burnt this morning in Lagos Nigeria.

And who told you that paper is very easy in Germany? Germany is very tough in terms of having papers and the only solution is either you have baby for a German u don't love or for a real relationship, and or any EU woman, and or you're granted Refugee Status as an Asylum seeker.
So, if you and your woman are visit visa holder and have baby in Germany, you will be deported sure banka, because you're not entitled to any residency unless one of you is an EU citizen or residency holder, and before you become a German citizen u have to use your residency for 8 years.

Germany is not easy to get paper! Let them know the truth before your information begin sending people to Germany and become illegal there.

Everybody staying in Germany for more than 3 months must obtain a residence permit, excluding EU citizens that are only required to register with their local Einwohnermeldeamt. And to get a German paper, Registering with the police is one of the first things you have to do following your arrival in Germany, except you're applying for Asylum which i don't think you will stand 5% as a Nigerian, except a miracle from baba God.

Getting a 'polizeiliche Anmeldebestätigung' requires a visit to the local registration office ('Einwohnermeldeamt/Meldestelle'), which is normally part of the local police station or town hall, and u must do this within seven days of arrival in Germany, or at least once you have accommodation.

And you will certainly need a Valid Nigerian passport to do all these, so tell me, will you tender your expired visa? Thats the door to Nigeria
The rules for what you need to get a residence permit may vary somewhat from place to place and according to your status. You'll certainly need a valid passport, a couple of “biometric” photos, proof that you have a place to live, proof of health insurance and proof that you can support yourself. Other things you may need include proof that you have a critical skill, proof that you are married, proof that you have independent means or a pension, a health certificate and a certificate of good conduct.

Registering is a simple matter of going there and filling out a form, but they must see your passport and they must not see your expired visa, except if you're an asylum visa. And the only solution is to get married while your Asylum application is on processing, but if your Asylum case finish unsucesssful before you get married, then you're smelling Nigeria. These are what you should let people know about how hard Germany is for illegal people O!

The truth is: the only way you can enjoy Germany is only when you get their RESIDENCY or their PASSPORT, even student you're still in ''ko easy'' lol
The two types of residence permits are limited (Aufenthaltserlaubnis) and unlimited (Niederlassungserlaubnis). The Niederlassungserlaubnis can normally only be applied for after several years of continuous residence or if certain special requirements are met, Oh boy, GERMANy no easy O![/quote]

[b][/b] parents in the house what is the right age to leave childeren in the house alone without them seting the house on fire or destroying valuable things or worst killing there selfs.

I was watching news yesterday,there said a man left his child at home to watch germany vs denmark match with friends.when he came back...his house was full with police and fire service...

I woundnt want to take that kind of risk...now that am a father...

I will like to kwn what age is ok to leave child\childeren alone in the house without baby sitter?

claremont: Guy how far?! Longest time!

I suppose enter your side spend my next holiday sometime in September/October, try send me your current phone number through my Facebook account. Work never let me see road since, hope your madam and baby dey fine sha.

last time you are in germany i gave you my phone number...abi you lost am
well i will forward my house phone number to your mail just incase,i dont really facebook this days
i will send you mail thou...

3sky: thaanks for your respond

i am referring to the kind of tipper truck that carries sand and stones
for building houses. i think they call it 911. please i want to know the amount
it will likely cost in Germany.

http://www.mobile.de/

chip german used cars for sale,check your 911

dani1luv: [size=13pt]You Know how we do it nah??
I swear

If I was Naija's President, I would change the name from "Carrot Jeans" to "Potatoe jeans"

If I was Naija's President, I would not only change the name to MAULAG, but I'ld also relocate its main campus to Ibadan

If I was Naija's President, I would ask terry G to re-write the National Anthem

If I was Naija's President, I'd make all Prisons in 9ja very comfortable cuz anything fit happen after my tenure.."

If I was Naija's President, wearing bra and pant to class would be legalised

If I was Naija's President, I'ld introduce "WORLD F. . . .,,UCK DAY"

If I was Naija's President, All PU. ,ss"y would have security code, only your husband's & bf(s) would have access to it

Oya letz go there


you can follow me on twitter @fRee_MadNezz[/size]

Lol

unipol: okay, i am still in munich and i use lyca mobile. here is my number but i will soon remove it. 015210306910

does germany have lyca? i used lyca when i was living in spain
nice and cheap to call africa....where do you buy yours?i need one.
can you send me one by post??pls..

ludab: @Markenny, why all these, your lawyer will try to aviod too much interview...he will make many excuse to aviod ther stress
for long time,like maybe he get you place in therapy section..or medical condiction. that will
take there intresse away from your case.

2:you have to pay a private lawyer for that,about 500 euro upward....
but u are not paying cash...maybe 10 or 20 euro every month.

Why this processes is going, will they give me temporarily stay permit. I am coming with a visiting visa, how can i cope without any problem.

@davedavy, What's your advice, I am coming with a visiting visa with condition that if i failed to come back, i will have problem with my future application and i wish to seek asylum.

@all your responses is needed.

no one will give you permit,you have just asylum ID card.
with your visiting visa make sure that you travel around europ
before you chose a place your going to seek asylum,because asylum is kinda permanent.
for exp.....seek asylum in germany ...you cant seek asylum in any other country
if you do it a crime and u will face illagel and deportation.once your thumb print is register in
in europ asylum machine there is no deleting...even if you remove your finger print it will still
grow back...go to clubs even your life,because it might be your last in europ.

make friends...find a away to send your passport back home...or secure your passport very well
make sure you dont have your passport with you when u are seeking asylum..(dispose your returning tickect and hotel reservation.) and again dont have more than 1000 euro in your pockect while seeking asylum....there will search you front and back,if there see the money.. you will pay for all the injection there will give you,plus you have to feed your self and you are not geting monthly asylum money...till the money finsh. good luck.

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All softdrinks are called Mineral.

India beat nigeria 99-1 because the ball was turned into lion.

If your wealth starts reducing,its your village people that are doing you.

Rice and stew.....every sunday afternoon.

Every commodity outside Africa is original.

While every commodity made in nigeria are fake.

Anyone with HIV\AIDS got it through Sex.

She is a calabar girl.....chai she go sabi do.

Every seasonin cube is Maggi

You must finish the rice before you touch the meat.

Every toothpaste na Maclean.

Every inscticide na Fleet.

Every detergent na OMO.

Any rich Hausa ia an Alhaji....while the poor ones are called Aboki.

Smoke,you be Armed robber!

If you find money on the floor,pee on it before pickin it up,else you turn to yam!!!

Only science students are smart.

once you travel overseas you must be very rich(as if dem dey share money on the plane)

Drogba use juju tie Torres for leg...

Every girl that plays and jokes with a boy,has slept with him,

You must buy bread when traveling.

When you lose a tooth,throw it on the roof of the house and run round 7 times

Every noodle is called indomie.

If any girl too fine ...na ogbanje(mummy water)and all the worwor people na witch.

Anything wey bite you for night na mosquito..

na wa for us ooo ooooooo!!!!!!!

rafcrown: @Markenny
THanks a lot.You are greatly helpful.See U in Ulm very soon.

okay.....

fili24: @ Markenny
Shipping a car from Hamburg to 9ja cost 515 eur, while a bus cost 675 eur

are you telling me or are asking me?

ludab: @markenny, I appreciate your responses but don't understand atleast that will get you 3 to 4 years...
However, will soon come over and please how can i go about seeking advice from a private lawyer before seeking asylum...

your lawyer will try to aviod too much interview...he will make many excuse to aviod ther stress
for long time,like maybe he get you place in therapy section..or medical condiction. that will
take there intresse away from your case.

2:you have to pay a private lawyer for that,about 500 euro upward....
but u are not paying cash...maybe 10 or 20 euro every month.

no1madman: @Markenny- - -It's called "Einbürgerungstest"not orienterungtest. . .
2-Aduro dey get about 150-200euros per month. .. . . . . . .
3-who go employ u w/o workin permit. . Germany na very organised and disciplined country. .ordnungsamt(municipal police)
fit control u at any fuckin time. . .

Einbürgerungstest is test you take if you what to apply for german passport.
if you dont take orienterung kurse in school you can not pass Einbürgerungstest.
2: aduro dey work in germany.once you stay more than 1 year in germany gov...will give
you working permit.

3: if you stay away from crime area in germany you will not even get control
at all.

babafish: u can contact me

dude check the year and date...expire topic.
you can creat a new one if you need contacts.

r231: Account info sent

Thanks




No we don't but we have paypal doh

Okay ...I have paypal too..send datails

r231: please email niralandcharity@gmail.com




please what is moneybooker

www.moneybooker.com ....moneybooker is easy way to tranfer money through mail address...if your mail address is register with moneybooker I can tranfer fund to your email adress,you can withdraw money from moneybooker account from all over the world..if you have moneybooker credit card.if not you have to tranfer first to your bank account befor withdrawing..

Just like paypal mail address without credit card.

@poster do you accpt moneybooker..

If yes details to my mail..

ludab: @Markenny, please tell me about the asylum seekers, what are their live there is like and how did the survive. Can oneself get temporary stay easily thru asylum seeker without been deported. Please enlighten me more. Thanks

germany if u make it up to one year withour deportation u get a workin permit (new german law)
once u start workin nobody will even care about ur asylum status again.
if u get pikin u get paper (vaterschaftsanerkennung)
asylum will give u house,food and 40 euro every month,til u up to one year and start work then u have to feed urself
and pay ur house rent.in germany there are no much control like other countries for black people.blacks in germany always feel at home.blacks are more racist than white people in germany (if u tell police man is it cuz im black thats why u control me?..he will say:ok.control normal but bye bye )..that is black racist..tellin a white person they are racist why they are not.

ludab: @Markenny, please tell me about the asylum seekers, what are their live there is like and how did the survive. Can oneself get temporary stay easily thru asylum seeker without been deported. Please enlighten me more. Thanks

Seek advice from lawyer befor seeking asylum...
Atleast that will get you 3 to 4 years...

Papa die and mama die..they want to kill me and I run
It don't matter any more.my papa bring me here and say make I no talk till he is back will get you deport sofort.I brake egg and see myself in europ will get you into truble.flying horse bring me here will get you into jail.I no be nigerian will get you into deportation camp for longer time(2years).
Don't trust nigerians ...use private lawyer for first rejection..don't use social lawyer..



read more here https://www.nairaland.com/950830/before-leaving-nigeria-things-must/2

rafcrown: @Markenny,I believe as a British passport holder one can work full time in Germany.The major issue is learning the language.
If one can get ssomething to do and learn the language evening time.
You mentioned in one of your posts long time ago that some people work loading containers that's why I mentioned container loading.I am interested in Germany just to ship goods home but not immediately.
Really appreciate your readiness to advice people and express your candid views Why can't other people emulate this.

You don't need working permit to work here in germany.

You can do something and learn german atthesame time..you can work night in a warehouse or do micky(mac-donald)....payment from 850 to 1000 euro including tax....factory work require german integration kurse(school) certifcates....1300..to 1600 after tax.....so the question which city do you wanna stay??what is your aim? Factory goods or car spare parts...

The city am stayin is ulm...one of the most city that have the most factory and industrial in germany..vry small but might state..if you are going for car spare parts...I don't think ulm have it..I think essen or hamburg..for the loading and parking goods for traders ...that is adro ppl job...well the asylum seekers do that to survive.is not job that will require you every day... u kwn germany pay by time spent...not monthly


But you are planin for long time to leave uk right?so you already have in mind which city you want to go right?
Which city was on your mind and do you already have a place to stay

I sent you my mail

Inemobot: Oh! God why?

That is sad...take heart brom..

rafcrown: @Markenny
I tried to contact you before.I really need your guidance mostly on getting a job and a small room.
You once mentioned loading containers which is ok with me as a new comer.rafcrownus@yahoo.com is my email.Pls let's chat on getting a job way forward.

it depend what kind of job you are looking for,it easy to get a full time job,if you have a working permit.
first you must go to german school for atleast 6months ( kurse A1 and B1).(new german law)
and orientierung kurse(in case of apply for german passport, but u can also do a black work without german school. as for house ...hmm
that will really be a problem for blackperson here in germany unless u have a german girlfriennd or wife.
maybe i will look around to see if there is any black that want to share room then i will let you kwn.

as for the containers...yes i oder some goods...but no bus yet (laptops and handy,).i need some one who will like to
share the chipping cost with.maybe the person buy the bus.

when the goods is in nigeria you take your bus i take my goods.easy


so mail me from narialand profile...

fineheart: Still waiting for your kind contributions & advice

from frankfurt to ulm is about 1hour or so...
what you didnt mention is where u are visting from.
you can oder cheap stuff from alibaba.com german gold suplier.if you wanna hang out...when you come hala me.
send me mail via nairaland profile.

wahrheiten: l urgently need any car exporting agent in Stuttgart,Ehingen or its environs.Please if you know any one,kindly drop me a message.l urgently want to ship a car from there to Lagos.Thanks!

have you ship car befor? or are u lookin for agent?