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And Asensio is such a good player. I wanted la liga too hot with all hands on deck but Asensio is out. So I won't see the Benzema, Hazard, Asensio, Bale and Isco combo?

I use being broke to mean no cash with you and in your bank account to meet your basic needs sufficiently and no cash source to salvage your situation anytime soon.

6) YOUR RELIGION ISN'T NEEDED TO MAKE YOU MORAL AND HOLY BOOKS ARE NOT GREAT SOURCE OF MORALITY : people in opposition to atheism usually ask "how can people be moral without god and religion?" and to this I reply "how come many atheists are moral without god and many believers are immoral with god?" You can be morally upright without your god and holy book. Human morality and decency precedes religion and religion has no right to monopolise morality. Can you name one act of kindness that you cannot achieve if you don't believe in your god? Your morality is inborn and you need no holy book or god to tell you right from wrong.

In fact, chances are that you are better, much better, than many of your fellow believers. The most hardened crooks, thieves, condescending, hypocritical, petty, mean, heartless, greedy, proud and cruel individuals are religious folks. Many claim they are religious and serve god faithfully yet they don't treat their fellow human beings right, especially those they consider beneath them. They treat those they consider inferior like trash. They are even snobbish. Don't forget the homophobia that has riddled most part of the religious community. There are people who are atheist and don't behave like that, how do they do it? You can treat others right and know right from wrong without the help of a god or holy book. Even the moral compass of the abrahamic holy books are faulty and you can do better on your own. So why bother?

Even the religious cannot keep their own laws. They harbor hatred, jealousy and wicked intentions, they fornicate, get drunk, watch porn, commit adultery, don't help the needy — they very things which their religion, which they claim to follow, commands them not to do. So why bother when you can do better on your own and be free?

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7) RELIGION IS FOR THE POOR AND GULLIBLE BUT NOT FOR THE RICH : the poor and gullible burden themselves with religion and vigorously embrace it. They also have it seriously and heavily implemented on them by their clergies. Now, if a rich muslim billionaire wants to wed his muslim daughter to a christian guy, he will be given a free pass and even receive the blessings of the imam but had it being a poor muslim who want to wed his broke daughter to a broke christian guy, all hell would be let loose at how the sacred precepts of the quran are being violated.

A famous and rich homosexual can be accepted by top churches as a member but in poorer and local churches it cannot happen. It's even worse if the homosexual is unknown and broke for they may lynch and disgrace him or her publicly. Most rich religious people and their children don't even take these religious stuff seriously. The politicians among them use it as useful tool. Clergies enable these people and twist the rules for them. Even your clergy whom you think is fire brand and faithful will compromise when the rich move their "paper weights" around. It is only the poor and gullible that take religion too seriously and become useful idiots for the clergies and elites at the top.

What applies to the rich doesn’t apply to the poor. To show that religion is just a tool in the hands of the clergy and elites, why is it that a corrupt, looting, womanising and wicked politician will come to church when election is around the corner, and the top GO will lay his hands on him in front of his massive congregation? The politician is simply looking for votes and has teamed up with daddy GO. If he can't appeal to the congregation directly, he will indirectly do so through the GO because people trust, believe and rever their GO and would vote for the politicians endorsed by him. If the GO says "this politician has been chosen by god to lead the nation..." majority would vote because they god has pointed out the right and best candidate through daddy GO.

It should be noted that I am not trying to generalise, but I am referring to majority of cases. I am not against rich people, neither do I regard with condescension poor and uneducated people. The abrahamic religions may condemn homosexuality but top religious institutions will twist their scriptures and condone and conduct gay marriages. I am not against gay marriage but people should know where they stand and stop fostering homophobic doctrines and religious beliefs that a lot of people take seriously even though these top religious institutions and elites don't take them seriously.

Why bother?

Physical assault is unacceptable.

I like his song "Dangote".

funmisticqueen:
You aren't a rape apologist. i also take a neutral stance. i watched the interview and tried reading busola's body language and did not see anything pointing out an outright lie. i believe something may have happened between busóla and the pastor, but she has chosen to block out some memories or doesn't recall the full details. She may also be lying and believes that her lie is the truth. The mind is a funny thing

The mind is indeed funny. The only sad thing was that Busola didn't speak up on time. If Fatoyinbo really raped her, it would be hard to convict him because there won't be any evidence. If Fatoyinbo is found guilty, he should be punished but if Busola is found to have lied, she should be punished. I krest my case.

Oluwasaeon:
Why e pain you

Her conscience is rumbling.

4) NO SIGN OF DIVINE OR SUPERNATURAL INTERVENTION, AND NATURE ALWAYS TAKES IT'S CAUSE : now, do yourself the honour of HONESTLY AND SINCERELY observing human life closely and you will discover that there are no tangible and irrefutable signs of the supernatural and it's influence. There are no signs of divine or supernatural intervention. Mankind is on it's own and left to fend for itself. There is no help from anywhere.

Also observe that despite the some much noise about the existence of your god and the greatness of his power, nature and events(regardless of your religious stance and amount of prayer) always proceed naturally as you would expect if there were no god and the physical world and human efforts were all we had. Nature and events would always take their natural course as you expect if there were no god(s) and atheism was the accurate position all along. There is no suspension of the natural laws by your god or any god to help you or your brethren. If a christian or muslim has stomach cancer, nature would take it's course and the believer would end up dead shortly no matter the prayer rendered to god. The same applies to the irreligious.

Cancer remission happens to both the religious and irreligious. Great statistical improbability for the remission of most cancers, are not impossibilities. If having a remission of your cancer that had a very rare chance of remission is a miracle, then winning a mega lottery is a miracle as well.

For the miracles you've heard and seen, how do you know these miracles are legitimate? Are there really no chances that they were made up and exaggerated? Think deeply about it. Why is it that the so called miracles that happen, for which christians give testimonies, are either natural things that could have happened anyway(eg. giving birth after many years of marriage, gaining admission into the university, securing a job, etc.) or things that can be faked. It's easy to fake the healing of cancers, multiple sclerosis, inability to walk, blindness, ALS etc. but you can't fake the healing and restoration of an amputated leg or decapitated head. Any surprises why we don't see amputees being restored? Start asking the right questions.

The things you see as miracles or have considered miracles, are they really divine doings or just natural happenings? Think!

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5) NO TANGIBLE DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THE RELIGIOUS AND IRRELIGIOUS : untimely death, cancers and other health challenges, poverty, sudden financial crisis, academic failure, mental illnesses, marital failure, injustice, bereavement, accidents, kidnap, rape etc. happen to both the religious and irreligious, and these mishaps happen to both sides at almost the same frequency regardless of race, age, moral uprightness and background. Try thinking about this.

If indeed your god were benevolent, all powerful and really loves his people, why doesn't he make a difference in their lives? Why doesn't he ensure that his followers stand out in life? What exactly are the impacts of your god in people's lives? People praise god, give their hard earned money as tithes and provisions to move the church forward yet what tangible impact does god have in the lives of his children? Why do the things I listed keep happening to both sides in the manner I described?

Why really bother? Think.

I would continue later.

I know this will never make front page because Seun and his gang, for business reasons, limit the reach of certain ideas on nairaland — some ideas are more worthy of being noticed than others.

If I ask adherents of the three main abrahamic religions(Christianity, Islam and Judaism) why they keep to their faith and why they think their beliefs are valid, all sorts of reasons, however unreasonable, would surface. For the true believers, who in all sincerity, embraced and labour for their belief, I would like to ask, why bother? Would you not consider leaving the shackles of your faith? Have you really questioned your beliefs? Here are the reasons why you should consider leaving :

1) YOUR GOD'S EXISTENCE ACTUALLY HAS NO BASIS IN REALITY : This is the plain truth. If you think otherwise, why don't you refute my claim with sound evidence for your god's existence? Nothing in this universe be it the sun, moon, life forms, plants, landscapes etc. indicates, in any way, that your god exists. There is no way you can infer, by any means, from the physical world that your god exists. There is simply no sound logical pathway that leads from the observation of our physical world to the conclusion that your god exists. The same applies to the claims of a spiritual world and spiritual entities. Heaven, hell, angels, demons, spirits, purgatory, paradise etc. have no basis in reality. What evidence do you have to assert that these things are real? Why fight for a heaven or paradise you haven't seen and can't prove exists? How about angels and jinns? Have you seen these for yourself to believe that they exist, or do you believe because someone told you they existed?

Do you believe in god because you have sound evidence for yourself, or because someone else told you god exists? Do you have evidence that god exists? Take your time and ask yourself these questions and please, try to answer them. How about you sit down and think about the bases and evidences for your god? If possible get a pen or pencil and write down why you believe in your god and the evidences you have for his existence. Found out for yourself and don't depend on "trusted sources" eg. Your pastor, parents, trusted fellowship leaders etc. Search for yourself.

I challenge you to promise yourself the following while doing your research, "I will be honest with myself and be neutral. My belief in my god must be based on a reasonable basis. If there are evidences for my god's existence then I shall accept them. If my god really wants me to believe his existence then he will show himself to me, for asking for evidence is not a sin and it's not so much to ask from an omnipotent god who wants your soul to be saved. If there are no evidences, I shall remain inconclusive and if I notice logical flaws, contradictions and falsehood, I will have the humility and honesty to point it out.

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2) YOUR GOD IS THE STUFF OF SCAM :
*) Imagine if I wanted to invent an almighty god and convince people of his existence. Unavoidably and naturally, my god would have many characteristics of your god. Naturally, if I told people about my all powerful god they would ask for proof and demonstration of his power. What better to avoid this than "thou shall not test the Lord thy God"?

*) Since I have no evidence for my god and other related claims, how else can people accept such god's existence and attributes if not by faith? How else can I make it more binding to them if I don't promote faith as a virtue? Faith is believing without evidence, and those who believe without evidence are not virtuous but stupid. If faith is a good basis to assert a claim, then I can assert that unicorns exist somewhere on Neptune by faith? Anything that can be asserted by faith, even the existence of werewolves and comic superheroes. Anything that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

*) Also notice that in order for my god not to be seen as someone who is unreliable and a failure in the time of need and keeping his promises, it is natural that I make him unaccountable. If your prayer gets "answered", he should be given all the credit. If your prayers go unanswered, then either it is not his will or your are at fault for doubting. Think about this carefully. Also since he cannot do anything, given his non-existence, I would elevate greatly every natural marvel such as child birth, a good economy, employment, success in life and academics, surviving an accident etc. as my god's achievement even though they are things that are natural and could and do happen without.

Think about how you foolishly give credit to god despite working hard to pass an exam. Don't atheist read and pass too? Who are they to thank? How to realise prayer doesn't work is to pray for something out of the ordinary and observe that it can never happen? All notice that prayer without work always fail, work without prayer works and work with prayer works. So what's the use of prayer?

*) Given that I purport my god to be all knowing, curious minds would want god to reveal mysteries of the universe for our betterment and understanding. Mysteries such as the natural cure for HIV, scientific mysteries, etc. what better way to avoid this test than to say it "it is the glory of my god to conceal a matter and it is the glory of kings(or men) to search it out" ?

*) Given that my god can't be reasonably reconciled with reality, it would be natural, and in my best interest, to insist that his plans and ways are just even though humans can't comprehend it, and his ways are mysterious. Isn't unnecessary mystery the bed rock of bull crap? Wouldn't it also be in my best interest to insinuate that logical thinking and human reasoning(the most effective tools against my bullcrap) are canal and enmity towards my god and my god cannot and shouldn't be questioned?

*) To further promote my bullshit, I would insist that "... without faith, it is impossible to please god AND THOSE THAT COME TO HIM MUST BELIEVE THAT HE IS... How about "happy are those who haven't seen but yet believe"? Be sincere with yourself, does that make sense? Is it wise to believe without seeing? Why would that be a virtue if not to bind you, without your resistance, to my bullcrap? Can you practice this in real life when doing business? Can you pay for a car you haven't seen?

Please tell me, if you don't reason, ask questions and seek evidence, how would you know the truth? How can you be sure that something such as god's plan/will, though unreasonable, makes sense in a way that you can not realise? What if I told you that the ways and looting of our Nigerian politicians are just and for the best in a way you cannot understand, would you agree?

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3) ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS ARE BASED ON FAITH : Christianity, Islam and Judaism are based on faith not reasoning, logic or evidence. Why then are you giving your all for things that have no evidence? There are two problems with faith:
1) Having faith in something doesn't make it true (or mean that it will come to pass).
2) A person could have faith in almost anything however unreasonable and ludicrous.

funmisticqueen:
do you believe fatoyinbo raped busola?

Actually, I don't know? Evidence must surface before I make a conclusion. Busola could lie lying or telling the truth and Fatoyinbo could be lying or telling the truth. I remain neutral and I champion due process. Fatoyinbo shall be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

The only suspicion that I have is the fact, point out by Kemi Olunloyo, that the supposed car brand in Busola's story and the child Busola claimed to babysit were nonexistent until few years later. Though I did not watch the full interview but what says you?

funmisticqueen:
Hell no. But all my posts in this thread are dedicated to the male rape apologistss

I am not a rape apologist so your post doesn't relate to me.

funmisticqueen:
were you molested too? maybe you still think it's your fault it happened? you may be partly correct because the guilt has robbed you of your sense of sarcasm

I wasn't. What about you? I any man krest his manhood in your fortress?

delishpot:
Yapy, yapri, yap. Saying snowflakes upandan as if he just learnt the word.

Inferiority complex — the weakness of many blacks. The word "snowflake" is a term that's widely used by blacks, whites and other races. Why should it come as a surprise that I am using the word? What makes you think I just learnt the word? Wait, you think Africans are too uneducated and unexposed to know such words and use them? You think Africans are too uneducated or backward that they glory in showing off the usage of a simple English word they've learnt? Or wait, your don't expect foreign slangs, exposure and a good diction for an African? Lol. Upgrade yourself.

You are a such big f00l.

Why then you claiming black face is not a big deal in the abroad? You thought no one would know you were lying?

Did I ever claim it wasn't a big deal? I simply stated that I am very much aware of what the black face and its various uses both in the past and present. Learn to reason and stop thinking like a sheep. You desperately want it to be that Ebiye was wrong and racist and you are willing to strawman me and misrepresent my point to fit your narrative. Continue, I am not stopping you.

Telling me that saying a black woman is too dark is not same thing as saying she is too black?
If that is the lie you tell yourself in order to sleep well at night then knock yourself off

"Too dark in complexion" and "too black" are not necessarily the same thing except the user intends them to mean the same thing. You are the one making the connection, where I never did, to fit your narrative that Ebiye is a racist. Kole werk. Saying or insinuating someone is too dark in complexion is not an offence. Intentions and context are all that matters.

I have had enough of your foolishness. I won't reply you or give you any attention from henceforth. Good day and have a wonderful life seeing racism where it doesn't exist. Grown up like yourself, you are not ashamed.


Yen yen yen yen yen yen yen.... skin colour.
Yen yen yen yen yen yen yen yen.... racism.
Yen yen yen yen yen yen yen yen yen.... I am offended.

Duggedised12:
Black money are just words too .You see why i said you dont have sense? A black person feels its OK to call a fellow black person nigga, but it is racist when a white person calls him nigga. If by now you still dont know when to draw the line between freedom of speech and expression from mockery and ridicule ,you are a big fool. Same way there is thin line between freedom of speech and hate speech. Go figure.

Before we digress and start discussing about human rights, let it be known that Ebiye was not mocking Lupita and he has the right to do what he did. As I have said if you insist on being offended, no one is stopping and that's your business. I don't know how many times I must repeat it before your dull brain can understand I have no issues with skin colour instead intentions and context are all that matters. How many times must I repeat the same thing? Only f00ls and id1ots would persist in their ignorance and misrepresentation despite repeated clarification.

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Only f00ls speak with certainty about things they don't understand. You clearly do not know jackshit about the human right of freedom of speech and expression. Though I do not condone racism but it is a fact that mockery, insult and ridicule are part of freedom of speech and expression. If you doubt me, go meet a lawyer for explanation. Under freedom of speech and expression, no one owes it to you to please you and you do not have the right to not be offended. The fact that I have to explain this basic right to you shows your education isn't complete.
However, it should be noted that Ebiye did not mock or degrade Lupita neither was he being a racist. Ebiye was simply catching some fun with a harmless joke.

Even a toddler has more sense than your adulterated adult brain ,lol

It would be appropriate if, every morning, you look into mirror and repeat this line to the image you see in front of you. I am done with you on this issue. I won't mention you or give you any attention any more. Have a wonderful life of being offended at inoffensive things.

The act of proposing in public is unnecessary. Just ask her in private, either she is in or out. Guys, please and please, when you are fvcking and rolling with a lady, let it be stated clearly by the lady if she considers you her boyfriend and wants to marry you or if you people are just fvck buddies. Not when she leads you on, you follow like a mumu and she then tells you that you are just a friend. Ask her if she is serious and wants marriage at the end or she just want to fvck and go.

Lastly, stop spending money on her. You are not her ATM and she is not entitled to your cash. She has her own father and can go and hustle. If she doesn't want, let her get the fvck out of your life. It doesn't matter how beautiful she is(her beauty can go fvck itself), the same rules apply.

Duggedised12:
The bolded says it all. Lol you dont have sense bye

Lol. Is that not the truth? Go and ask any lawyer and let him/her explain the basics of fundamental human rights to you. No wonder you've obtuse so far — you don't understand the fundamental human right of freedom of speech and expression!

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO NOT BE OFFENDED BY ANYONE. Toughen and grow up or remain a toddler.

bolayei:
Your comprehension is good but your exposure is not. Any sort of discrimination, jokes based on someone's skin colour is racism. Stop coming across as a typical uneducated literate person and shut your gob

Any sort of discrimination based on skin colour is racism.

Any joke based on skin colour is not necessarily racism.

Intentions and context are the sole determinants of what's racism or not. Educate yourself.

Duggedised12:
people have been killed for their skin color and you keep saying "snowflakes". Lol, seems you just heard the word somewhere and decided to run with it.

Those who kill others for their skin colour are the real racists you are supposed to be fighting not Ebiye. Did Ebiye kill Lupita? Simple joke, you guys are losing it. Gosh, the way people reason ehn, so disappointing. All you have here is emotional woowoorism and irrational arguments.

Yeah, racist people catch fun too. But just because its coming from a black man ,its now harmless.Go and check what black face means and stop being ignorant.

You keep making the very same mistake over and over again. Is anything wrong with you? Did I ever mention that Ebiye's skin colour is important here? Didn't I say repeatedly "it doesn't matter the skin colour... intention and context are all that matters" ? What the hell is wrong with you?

Wait you still insist his intention was not to ridicule? You know what ? You are obviously those type of jerks that go around being assh0les and think everyone should get used to it. I am glad the world is no longer getting used to clowns who are oblivious of other people and are so self absorbed and expect the world to accept their foolery.

Lol. If you and other snowflakes insist on being offended at everything, that's you guys' business. One thing I won't stand is spineless toddlers with adult bodies trying to limit other people's freedom of expression because of what they find offensive. Ebiye and I are not assh0les and we owe it to no one to please them. No one has the right to not be offended.

Duggedised12:
you have said it all , cc Martinez39 this is the point everyone has been trying to pass. Let's respect ourselves if we want other races to respect us.

There is no disrespect in Ebiye's joke except you insist on being offended. People should toughen and grow up instead of having everyone stooping so low and limiting themselves to what every Tom, Dick and Harry deems offensive and sensitive. A lot of muslim men find mini skirts and criticism of Islam offensive, should we ban women from wearing mini skirts and people from criticising Islam?

If you say that this analogy is inappropriate because people have the right to wear whatever they want, I would ask if Ebiye doesn't have the right to make such jokes?

Duggedised12:
obviously you lack common sense for replying me with such lengthy rubbish. You are used to clowning around ,that you feel it is normal. But let me tell you, being stupid is not normal and i am glad people dont find it funny.

It's not lengthy rubbish, just say you can't reason properly and I would understand. The fact that a lot of individuals are snowflakes and too sensitive like you doesn't mean you are right. Number is not validity. Truth is not by democracy.

Now the context and intention is mockery and ridicule stop feigning ignorance. This comedian is not a five year old but a full grown foolish adult who knows exactly what he is doing.

Whether he is a five year old or a ninety five year old, the same still stands. Intention and context are all that matters. As long as he doesn't mean any harm or degradation, he should never be considered a racist.

If you have experienced racism before,this will hit different when its a black man bringing the foolery to you. Go on other forums and see what people with even Beyonce's type of skin are experiencing when it comes to racism,so where does that leave lupita,if a black man is the one to give her to the wolves just for jokes. If a white man is to follow suite and do same to her, it will racism, but you think its OK to mock her because its coming from a black man?

Everything is not racism. The fact that you have suffered racism should not make you lose your senses and brand as racism what is not racism. Whether it's a white man or a black man, intention and context are all that matters. No one was mocking anyone, Ebiye was simply catching some harmless fun.

I say again,you don't have sense if you still don't see the point everyone has been trying to make.

Majority is not validity. Truth is not a democracy. Grow up and toughen up jare. Good day, if you insist in being offended then there is nothing I can do.

delishpot:
I like how ignorant folks just quote shit to support their baseless theory. In that America, black face is seen as pure racist joke and nobody gives 2fucks about the intention of the black face wearer.

Nobody gives a fvck about intention and a lot of people see "black face" as offensive, how is that my business? Are they the one to set the standards? In labeling people as racist, intention and context are what matters. Imagine if a 5 year old caucasian were friends with a 5 year old black and the caucasian smeared his entire face with black paint because, according to the caucasian, "he admires his friend's skin colour and wishes to be like him", would you call the caucasian kid a racist? If people insist that intention doesn't matter and they insist on being offended, that's their business.

Secondly, What right have you got to decide who is "too" black? Are you God's assistant to tell us who good accidentally added too much paint on their skin? Blacks are more racist and evil towards blacks yet we shed crocodile tears when people of other races talk shit about us. Everythibg is a joke to the typical black buffoon

No one assumed the right to determine who is too black. Lupita and Beyonce are black women but Lupita is too dark in complexion. The meaning of that should be clear to anyone with an average IQ. If you insist on picking offence, that's your business. Everything is offensive and sensitive to the deplorable snowflake.

funmisticqueen:
what were you doing in auntie's house that she molested you. i am sure you seduced her, wearing boxers round the house.

I am sure Busola Dakolo seduced Pastor Fatoyinbo(God bless him) with her underwear, skimpy clothes and lovely breasts. What was she doing with an anointed man of god? I krest my case.

PropaMan:
burna boy is a superstar now, no jokes, sometimes when you think about this you'll undertsand that God can bless you irrespective of your character or past, some people will say, if you're smoking or drinking you are a sinner and will not make heaven, but how come God blesses you, if he does'nt want you to make heaven.

nobody holy pass o, las las all this church things and plenty advice na scam

God didn't bless him. In fact, god is nonexistent. Burna Boy is successful because of talent and hardwork.

Heavance:
He was never dead.....
A lot of people just prefer to listen to noise or pretend to be deaf, this guy has always been up.

Well, I don't follow music but it seemed to me that, for a short while, Burna Boy was away and he resurfaced bigger and better.

Wow!!! This hits straight home. The media over romanticised marriage/love; created a lot of misconceptions about marriage/love; created a lot misleading and unrealistic fantasies about marriage/love; and grossly overrated marriage/love. Another fact that is worth pointing out is that MARRIAGE IS NOT FOR EVERYONE AND SOME ARE BETTER OFF STAYING SINGLE.

NIGERIAN BLOGGERS' LOGIC 101 : A girl is beautiful if she has big boobs and a huge big butt.