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@Pazienza: Call the full Nri kindreds here today because I ready for una. Nor be only Igbo people sabi yab and derail threads.

Urhobos are natural word-lords. I stand gidigba today.

Nothing de happen. I go treat una matter like ebola. When I finish, una go avoid Warri anytime una hear the name.


Kenoma!

pazienza:
Your women are naturally very ugly.
Every one knows this. Ain't nobody watching an ugly Urhobo girl masturbate with cucumber. You have to be beautiful, sex appealing to get the entire nation dying to watch your nude sex video. Ugly Urhobo girls simply don't have it.

It's nobodies fault. It's the fault of ugly Urhobo men that keep padding their ugly X chromosomes to ugly Urhobo women to create ugly Urhobo girls.

Ndo.

Have you even seen pictures of Igbo women before that started using hydrogen peroxide to bleach their skins and sleep with white men to give birth to semi-yellow starch colored children? Let me help you with their pictures


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Source: https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=ancient+igbo+women+picture&tbm=isch&imgil=pCnivJ2jqWFzVM%253A%253BV-DcqOTd94iZHM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fukpuru.tumblr.com%25252Fpost%25252F69368617487%25252Fengaged-northern-igbo-women-in-gala-dress&source=iu&pf=m&fir=pCnivJ2jqWFzVM%253A%252CV-DcqOTd94iZHM%252C_&usg=___6PeMJiROLTtPJXpOqBDizMRPBk%3D&biw=1366&bih=662&ved=0ahUKEwi0q9O4ubrQAhUHCcAKHawYDNsQyjcINg&ei=6DgzWLSXC4eSgAassbDYDQ#imgrc=FfCvHIA10uXpPM%3A

Go and see more wooglish women

Urhobo women black, I agree. They are not FAKE and donot use bleaching creams or cucumber!

pazienza:
Lol! Who cares!

You are simply inconsequential. Cry me a river.

I'm only here to expose your innate Igbophobia and sensitize naive Igbos to that effect.
Scram.
The ones grabbing your lands already have their oil drilling machine sunk down there and enjoying the loot while you bark out of squalor.
You are barking at the wrong tree.

We love those other ones because they've not FORCED us into anything and while things may not be perfect, they have treated us more like brothers than our so-called neighbours.

The Igbophobia continues and I am a champion for it. Infact, I will personally spread the ideology to my people in OUR LANGUAGE if needs be.

pazienza:
I beg to differ.
I think it's the other way round. Ndiigbo had always been extending the olive branch to these hateful groups, but there is no appeasing a hateful person, especially when the things they hate about Ndiigbo are the very things that make us Igbos. Our desire to be better than we are, our ambitious nature, and our pride in our achievements. They just can't stand it, and we can't stop being that way, it's an impasse.

Ultimately the most potent reply to hateful people, especially those who hate your very existence is to multiply their hatred a million times and throw back to them. Nothing emphasizes this point more than the way Israel treat the hateful Arab nations surrounding them. It's a very effective method that have been shown to work wonders.

Igbos created no enemies, those people constituted themselves enemies of Ndiigbo for no just reason. Ndiigbo never annexed their lands, or resources, Obj gave part of Delta oil to Ondo, we never took the right of ownership of their lands from them, as it was again Obj a Yoruba man that made the land use decree that took away the control of their lands and resources from them, we never killed their heroes, Abacha killed Saro Wiwa, Nigerian Army killed Boro, we never bombed their lands, Obj, a Yoruba man did when he killed them Mama and dem papa in Bayelsa.
The proceeds from their crude oil wasn't siphoned to build up Igboland, rather Awo and Gowon used them to build up Lagos and Abuja.

Yet these people don't show one hundredth of the raw hate they show towards Ndiigbo to Yorubas or North.

Some of these people took our hard earned property in PH, and are scared that we will exact some retribution on them in Biafra should they join us, some of them were partakers in the massacre of our people in 1967-70.

We have every reason to hate these people, they betrayed us when we needed them most, yet when one of them GEJ came running to us in 2011, and the North was dangling VP slot before us, we chose to shelve our own ambitions to support their son, cos we believed in Justice and equity. You would think that these people will by now have repented of their Igbophobia, but no, it only multiplied more.
Why? Because the best cure to hate is administration of hate 1 Million Times more concentrated on the aggressor and not love. You don't show love to demons or witches that are only out for the destruction Of the core things that make you, you. It never worked that way.


Again, I don't know why you are bent on dragging alien people( Urhobo, Ijaws, Itsekiri and Isoko) into our Biafran discussion by fire and by force, ogini di? I no do nah by force? I had told you that those aliens don't fit into healthy biafran agenda. The hate emanating from those quarters is just to toxic and will choke our young nation before she even stands a chance of growing,

When did Ndiigbo drag those bitter people into Biafra, let me guess? The circulated maps? They are many Biafrans maps out there, they are merely proposals and in no way insinuate forcing people into Biafra.
If the jellyfishes from those hateful groups are interpreting those maps as forcing them into Biafra, then they are even more pathetic than I envisaged.

Speaking as if you are not happy and masturbating about that map because it shows a bigger region for your people.

The day I see that map or any like it anywhere in person, na tolopia go end am. If you want to know what tolopia means, go and check our history.

TheSonOfMark:
Predictable hogwash.

His assertions and summations mirror those of majority of folks from the Akwa-Cross region. While we fully support the right to secession by peaceful means, we reject attempts to be hoodwinked into being lumped together only to be exploited further. WE AREN'T BIAFRANS.

Now try terming me a Yoruba or Hausa bigot and watch as I place a gazzillion curses on you in my native Ibibio Language.

Help me tell them o.

See Pazienza or whatever the bigot calls himself saying they want AkwaCross in Biafra as if they follow them sign agreement. Yeye people. All these because of OIL and SEAPORT.

pazienza:
Our border will be more porous with Igbophobic elements walking within our gates as fellow citizens.

Hostile neighbors? Yes. But we will prevail against any act of provocations from them , if we go about it the right way. We have lots of advantage over them. And I sincerely don't see them provoking us.

We will be extremely hostile to you guys. Yeye landgrabbers and greedy lots.


The Igbophobia is real here and trust me, when we go tolopia for una matter, una go tire. No Igbo man, dead or alive, can withstand the combined force of Urhobo-Isoko-Itsekiri-Ijaw.

Dem never born am.

This one nor be to make mouth. There is a reason why FG shakes when we bark.

pazienza:
Lol! Who would spend precious MB to watch ugly Urhobo girl masturbate with cucumber?

Ever wondered why they use models to act porn most times?

Our men are STRONG. IGBO men are nothing but chest-beaters and i-pod mouth makers. All the lesbians in Nigeria are Igbo women....Gee, I wonder why!

ndoeyopbennet:
I maintain my grounds that Biafra will succeed only when Igbos stop bringing in other unrelated tribes. The Urhobo-Isoko, Edos, Itsekiri, and even Ijaw, have nothing in common with Igbo, unlike Ibibio that shares some cultural affinity. Many Igbos, in trying to make the territory larger, forcefully added people who are uninterested, based on their popular opinions, in the map of the proposed Biafra.

Again, Igbos have been creating more enemies instead of making more friends. We need to build bridges as a people, not destroy them. Just because we don't need people to create a country doesn't mean we dont need good neighbours and allies. Igbos, especially the e-Ipodians, have managed to burn bridges with other groups, including Ibibio, based on what most of them say online.

It will be very ironic if a group demanding freedom from a contraption end up forcing people into another. Biafra will certainly be another Nigeria if its ethnic groups/minorities are too many.


All-in-all, we should advocate for self rule based on ethnic borders. Igbos should fight for igbo autonomy and not that of any other group. Such things breed resentment.

All this one u are saying is for yourself o.

Igbos can carry Ibibio if they want. My own is simple. They should remove Urhobo and anything related to Urhoboland from their nonsense.


They shouldn't even MENTION URHOBO in anything Biafra related or else, we'll keep fighting them. If they want hostilities to stop, they should mend walls and use diplomacy, not forcing people into their maps.

pazienza:
You are nothing but inconsequential minorities.

You were never needed and are still not needed.
Better save that poison, cos you will need to use them on your fellow hateful beings in Ijaw and Itsekiri, when you lots resume you usual hostilities,at a time Ndiigbo had since left to form one helluva of a progressive nation Africa can for once be proud of.
We refuse to partake in any madhouse arrangements again, after we escape from this current one.

Who cares about your ugly looking Urhobo women
Biko zuzupuo kam neegharia anya

Ndi nwuru awu na aga ije.

Atleast Urhobo women don't go about using cucumbers because the men, like you, are IMPOTENT!

hushuptimus:
Pardon my ignorance
I don't know of the political importance but I think military(strategic advantage) it will be a plus for Biafra if that place is not hostile towards us.
1. That place(warri mostimportantly and the outlying towns) is a ground of contention.
2. It can easily be made well trafficked (by adversaries) on land and water.
3. Our border concentration ( Reece) and garrison on land should be to the north and to the east(Cameron) that way enemies won't outflank us.

Help me tell them ooo. Making enemies where there is none.


One thing they don't understand is that Biafra can never win a war with Nigeria or even become a meaningful nation as long as they remain hostile to their neighbours who have access to seaports.

Noneroone:
stop replying him. the attention seeker mathy001 is the same person as jasysandra and frathermathy, the urhobo loser that was complaining about the demise of their language in one thread.

@pazienza

"Urhobo loser"

See these yeye greedy people calling others losers. Instead of you to focus on your landlocked sterile region, you want to drag Urhoboland into your suicide mission.

That was how one Ipod zombie online was busy spreading rubbish that Urhobos migrated from Igboland and are therefore Igbos. Make una con try say that rubbish for here first. We go first burn Igbo quarters for Warri to start with.


Enemies of progress. Instead of addressing issues, you insult people and ethnicities. Na una way. E go over una wen the war start.

I know I will personally join the army and kill any Idiotic Biafran I see ON SIGHT!




Secondly, Jasysandra is a GIRL and an Igbo one at that. I am not Igbo. Go figure.

Whynotthetruth:
I don't do hearsay bro...when we get to that bridge Stop plucking data from air, it doesn't work that way... thanks

e go ova una when the bridge set na. We de watch. See them. U think say Urhobo man go follow una? I pray o.

Ngozi123:
They must be using the old map. There's so many different maps of Biafra that it's difficult to determine the legitimacy of any of them. There are many Igbos like me who believe that we should have an Igbo-only country, without any minorities. I would even say that their number is greater than those who would have the Urhobos/Isokos in their newly formed country.

I even agree with you. Ethnicity is our problem in Nigeria. It is better if Igbos rule themselves, Urhobo rule themselves, Efiks rule themselves, etc. It is really better for everyone like that. However, Igboid groups should be given the opportunity to join Biafra.

Allsouls:
If Niger delta won't be part of Biafra no problem, as far as they understand that Hausa fulani or Yoruba's don't like them but only after their oil.
But I hope op has not forgotten that Igbo's are part of nigerdelter.
Nigerdeltas of ijaw and co are more Biafra than Igbo's but if our brothers don't want to be with us no problem, all our prays will be for them to progress as Igbo's pray for their loved ones whom the settled from apprentice to become a real man.
But some tribes in Nigeria don't want to be real man they still want to be hiding under some body or group of people instead of taken their responsibility as a man.
We the easterner are ready for Biafra, if our brothers say they don't want we will happily & wish them well in their new nation but not to allow them to be killed by the jihadist and blood sucking demons in the name of Nigeria.
Nigeria has expired and lugard experiment has failed.
On Biafra we stand no going back.
If buhari and co don't like it he should go and hug 330 kva live line.
#All hail Biafra.

Yes yes yawwwww! I like your writeup.

Whynotthetruth:
I wonder how you got this statistics...Anyway, take time to read the Biafra charter, and their other documents...Most if not all of your fears above have already been addressed...so why go over if again here? pick the document it is on Google...

The statistics is true. I dont know about Delta Igbos and Ijaws but Itsekiris and Urhobo-Isokos do not subscribe to Biafra and may never do.

ceaz4r:
OP, You have raised valid areas of concern about the Biafra as it bothers you. Now, I'm going to attempt to answer your questions.

Concern1: Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another... Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised.

Answer: Ndigbo is not interested in dominating anyone or group. We have this ideology of "Live and let Live". So, major ethnic or not, we will be more concerned in developing ourselves than politics. Have you wondered why we Igbo are poor players of politics in the Nigerian context. Ndigbo view politics from the fairness angle while others see politics as a game of compromise even if it means back stabbing.

Concern 2: Where will the capital be located?

Answer: Choosing the capital of Biafra should not be a big deal. A more central state can be adopted to be the Capital. Again, heads of provinces/states can vote on a round table where the Capital should be located.

Concern 3: The issue of annexation comes to play.

Answer: You posted a map in your article. One thing I want you to note is that some of these maps being circulated may not be the official map being worked with.
Asaba, Ugheli, Agbor, etc were in the old Mid-western state and as such were not part of Biafra which comprised mainly the Old Eastern Region. Anybody can post anything on the media, but if its not from or sanctioned by the Pro-Igbo office, like IPOB, MASSOB, etc, you may jettison it.

Concern 4: What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation?

Answer: Should this be a problem? In a multi lingual state, official language becomes English.

Concern 5: What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust?

Answer: Honestly if by now you still don't believe you can trust Ndigbo to do as they say/promise; if you still don't believe Igbos are trust worthy people, then you can't be convinced to trust them.

Concern 6: Who will lead the new nation?
7: Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu?

Answer: when people ask this question I laugh at their ignorance. Do you mean a fair and credible election can not be conducted by adults? Electoral systems that are anti rigging like 'queuing behind your candidate's representative' and be counted will be adopted. Or are you trying to say that apart from these crop of criminals in government we have today, there are no credible people left in your community that can hold elective or appointive positions?


In the proposed Biafra, every province or state or whatever you call it will be responsible for his speed and level of development. It will be a federating nation with a weak center.

I don't have to answer all your raised concerns. I believe with what I have said so far, you already have idea the direction Biafra is taking.


Cheers!!

Very sensible guy here. I like people that say things as they are.

Whynotthetruth:
Good...I already addressed your question...or is their any other one?

Why are your brothers adding Urhobo-Isokoland in Biafran map?

Technocracy:
I dont join issues with ill concieved postulations filled with naivity and total ignorance even barcanista is speaking for ijaws smh igbos did not create biafra but biafra existed even before the creation of Nigeria

See this one. God created Biafra abi na? Mtchewwwwwwww!


You guys can add and divide the whole region. Just leave Urhobo-Isoko outta it.

BADNEAT:
have you lived in the east before ??..you raised no issues ...do yourself a favour get a ledger , go to the markets in rivers ,delta ,akwa Ibom ,bayelsa and cross river and conduct a survey personally ...

NOBODY in Urhoboland wants Biafra, for your information.

pazienza:
Let me book this space, just incase.

1. Biafra proposes a form of government where each province Will have total control of her resources and only contribute to the centre.
In Biafra, smaller groups like Oron, Eket, Andoni can unite and have their own province with full resource control and pay tax to the central government.
There won't be any land use decree.
IPOB had stressed on this times without number. Even Ojukwu Biafra was divided into provinces,with non Igbo speaking tribes having their own distinct provinces with indigenous administrators.
You need nobody to checkmate Igbos under such arrangement.
And moreover, naturally, Igbos exist in clans that do checkmated each other, ther have never in history being a period when Igbo groups United to conquer a non Igbo speaking people.

2. Why should where the capital location be an issue since it's not going to be a case where people were milked dry so that FG and go build up Lagos and Abuja?
It will be all province for themselves.
We can apply the three capital system of RSA. The legislative in one Province, the judiciary will be hosted by another province and the Executive by another, all these can be negotiated.

3. This is totally irrelevant. Truth remains that Ndiigbo had never annexed non Igbo lands in the past. Arochukwu was only one that was annexed, but when you factor in the fact that Arochukwu was won by a union of Aro, Ibibio and Akpa( Ekoid) people, then it could hardly be termed annexation.
Ndiigbo are not empire builders. Annexation and expansionism is not our trait. We are republicans by nature.
No Nigerian state government was ever going to approve being part of Biafra, even. Enugu state government denied Biafra. So citing Delta state government response is quite irrelevant to the issue of Biafra. Nobody expected any different response. But IPOB and their Biafran ideology is well received by the commoners in Enu ani, which is why Asaba is an IPOB stronghold.

4. This again is a trivial matter. Each province will have their own language and English as their official language.
English will remain the lingua franca.
But this is quite funny. You are scared of an Igbo national language, but comfortable with an English non African lingual franca.

The scenario you painted Of someone being denied position because of ethnicity will not happen with the structure Biafra intends to run on. The provinces will be stronger and more lucrative than the centre. It won't be the case of Nigeria.
Moreover, I personally don't subscribe to a Biafra with Ijaw, Edo and Edoids( Urhobo, Itsekiri, Isoko), when I think of Biafra, I think of Igbo, Igboids and AkwaCross, cos these are people we share similar ideologies with.

Infact, I'm only replying you because you stated that you are from AkwaCross area .
So my use of Biafra during the course of my reply represents strictly Igbo, Igboid and AkwaCross and maybe Ogoni.

5. Igbos are often the subject of caustic attack by those groups you mentioned, which I personally don't consider part of Biafra.
Go to Ijaw facebook pages, Radio Niger Delta, and even here in NL and see the amount of hatred towards Ndiigbo emanating from those quarters.
How many times have you seen Igbos hurl insults at AkwaCross people? Rarely. Why? Because you hardly get Igbophobia in AkwaCross area. AkwaCross people are all over Aba, they understand the Igboman and the Igbo man understand them, they don't show us hate, and in return we don't show them hate.

This generation Of Ndiigbo know better. We will not allow Igbophobic elements whether from
Ijaw, Edo, Edoids or Yoruba go unpunished. We will reply them with so much hate that even lucifer will marvel. Actions must be met with reactions.
So, if you think we are hurling insults on those children of hate, then you are John snow, cos what you are seeing is only just the beginning.
Peeps must be forced to learn that Igbophobia will not be tolerated by Ndiigbo, simple.
I have no intent of sharing Biafra with those people, it's only natural that they stick to their Arewa masters, you know what they say of birds of same feather.

6. Again Nnamdi had made it clear he has no political ambitions in Biafra. Even if he does, the kind of structure Biafra intends to run on will make the centre only ceremonial, it won't be same all powerful Nigerian president.
Ndiigbo had no problem with Obong of Calabar rulling the Eastern region house of Chiefs ahead of Eze Nri , Ex aro, Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, etc. We had no problem with Eyo ita ruling the Eastern region , Adaka was voted by Ndiigbo in UNN as the SUG president, we voted a Fulani as the first Mayor of Enugu, we all voted an Ogbia man, GEJ and stood by him when all abandoned him even Ijaw men like Clark abandoned him since.

We are more than capable of voting non Igbos.
By the way, remove Urhobo here, I don't consider them part of Biafra.

7. How exactly are Igbo leaders the most corrupt in the country? What did you smoke?

Are thieves like Ibori, Amaechi, Silva, Is Abacha, Obj, IBB Igbos? Please don't provoke me with this Igbophobic statement, cause you won't like the outcome.

Biafran will be structured in such a way that government will be too close to the people. No more Abuja jamboree, that alone will curb the excesses of the politicians. They will be under closer scrutiny by their people,and since each province is going to be ran by what they produce, it will force leaders to think outside the box.
The abrogation of the dubious Obj created land use decree will hand the lands back to the natives and the government must serve the owners of the land and not the other way round. All these will change the political orientation and task leaders to be more productive and transparent to earn the people support.

8. Again stop dragging Edoids and Ijaws into this. You gave the impression that you are from AkwaCross area, but so far, you keep raising issues about the Edoids.
Not once have you made mention of the Oron struggle for independence , Obolo and Ibeno struggle for total control of Akwa Ibom coastline wealth, the Ekoid land disputes with Ikwo and Ezza clans of Igbo, the land disputes between Ndokis and Ibibios, these are real issues surrounding the AkwaCross Igbo relationship, instead you are focused in issues occurring in distant non related lands.
Don't give me the impression that you are an impostor claiming AkwaCross.

As for your question on utopia. Biafran will have the richest of human resources in Africa, it will have access to enormous natural gas deposits in Imo and Anambra, Coal in Enugu, crude oil reserves in Imo, Anambra, Ndoki, Etche, Asa. As well as those in AkwaCross area if you guys decide to join the party.
It will also have an enormous patriotic diaspora population spread all over the world ready to come and invest home as well as attract foreign investors, as the Biafran government will create the enabling environment for business to thrive.
The possibilities are endless.
Keeping the country peaceful is equally part of why I don't fancy having the Edoids and Ijaws in the Biafra, that will unbalance things and create chaos.

9. That is just a proposal. I don't consider Itsekiri and Urhobo parts of Biafra, any body that put then on the Biafran map is merely fishing for their reactions.

We don't share same life ideology with those people. I see no basis for unity with them. We can't be running away from a mad house( Nigeria), only to end up creating another mad house in Biafran by inviting bitter people with whom we share little with to share a nation.

When you know you are going to be running your province with whatever you produce, and that there won't be monthly allocation coming from Abuja, you wouldn't be bothered about those creating 1 million provinces for themselves, since they would have to run them with their own resources and not yours.

That's the great thing about the Biafran proposed structure. It eliminates the things that turned Nigeria into a failure.

I'm happy you removed Urhobo people from this madness. Tell your brothers to maintain that stand.