₦airaland Forum

igwebuike01:
but you forget that animona remains the highest achievers in Delta, who oil epp, abeg shift

Yyeske:
Urhobos kwa when far more important ethnic groups like Bini, Efik, Igala, Ijaw have not been noticed. Swerve biko

steppins:
I don't need to remind them. You were never a part of Biafra.
Your people added themselves there. NA una go still remove am cos you're weren't invited.

steppins:
Then stop crying. No one said Urhobo is part of Biafra.
Stop forming importance.

Yyeske:
You and your people are not up to the Aniomas, simple. Most Igbos prfefer an all Igbo nation instead of the present Nigerian arrangement of quota system and crap.
Ndigbo DO NOT need Urhobos.
We'll rather have Idomas, Igala, Efik, Ibibio as allies than you guys. Una too small sef. Go deal with the Ijaws, Itshekiri, Bini before you open your mouth when the great Igbo nation is speaking.

steppins:
We've never ever included Urhobo in our quest for Biafra. Your people assumed and figured to use it to claim importance.
The deltans who were included know themselves and they're mostly Igboid.
What the fûck are we gonna do with haters?

IgboSubmarine:
The Musiwa of Urhobo land

Fighting for True Federalism is more profitable than fighting against Biafra

steppins:
If we're dragging other tribes to our struggle, urhobos, itsekiris and Edos are the last people we want in Biafra.
Biafra is a home to hardworking and smart people, not lazy assholes. Our inclusion of Delta doesn't mean you're part of it.
Urhobos are Igbo haters, so haters are not allowed.

Yyeske:
Why are you crying upandan this thread about nothing. Urhoboland's wealth and population isn't up to that of Anioma in same Delta state, how much the whole Igbo nation.
Stop crying nobody is coming for you and your militancy wahala.

igwebuike01:
as long as you smaller tribes desist from using "we south south" and stop dragging igboland to come and upgrade you, we are cool. since you restrict your fight for your urhobo tribe, we hve no problem, You can see that PH is on lockdown due to heavy presence of Igboid groups over there. If you say Biafra is for Igbos only then dont drag other igbos in your "we niger delta" just remove your tribe only and we all cool

Fulmigati:
Looked at the pained Nigerian souls. They know that such display of unity and nationalism by Nigerians is a pipe dream. There are over 200 ethnic groups in Nigeria with more differences than similarities.

Yyeske:
No, only the Igbo regions in the SS, others should please keep off. Akwa-Cross could be considered if they agree but others MUST be kept out.

Jflex07:
Guy what's your problem with biafra and urhobo. Who cares about your minority. You keep saying urhobo this and that as if they have anything tangible to offer to igbos. The igbos don't need you guys to scale through,never and ever.. so stop spewing trash

3mmanhu3l:
I'm not in any way concerned.... They can rape your females dead or alive for all I care..... I'm just telling you to listen to how stupid what you wrote sounds

3mmanhu3l:
say this thing out loud and listen to how stupid you sound

DocHMD:
Are they no longer 'jobless yoots'? Keep your praises, IPOB certainly doesn't need your validation to achieve their aims which is to share a different passport from lovers of injustice and slaves of the caliphate.

DocHMD:
I thought there are no Igboids in SS? IPOB will keep slamming sense into anti-Biafra 'we Ss' and ewedu muslim skulls.

Nwakaumu:
You dey mind that clown.we finished him in the other thread he opened,and he ran away only to resurface here to disgrace himself.but I ve realised he has ego issue by always trying,albeit abysmally,to prsent himself as an Urohbo spokesman and a pseudo- intellectual;feeling that he is the only person that has an opinion(narcissism),in fact he is a psycho.As you mentioned,in Nairaland, as in other media outlets in Nigeria now, Biafra is trending;if you want to generate traffic, just attach Biafra, Nnamdi kanu or Igbo,you are good to go.This clown is just using Biafra's thread to shine light on himself and Urhobo, which is at tiny minority in a swampy region of delta.as a fool he thinks himself a smart guy with his self-opinionated stance by arrogating himself the spokesperson of the entire Urohobo without realizing that my urhobo girlfriend from ovuorie is worth as much as his, and can cancel out his vote and the ranting that comes with it if there is referendum.

vayne:
you and upu have just two votes,you can't force your opinion on a who tribe,this democracy.

vayne:
no be you insult me for civil discussion?why you come dey cry?are you emotionally unstable?

Ekinematics:
Lecture the fool I beg.

Mrbigman1:
Dis bloggers can kill me with nonsense.

Just carry all SE state put. Cos he dey hear say.
Wia is osun state? Ogun, Oyo? Dey re all save heavens.

Wia re all northern states dat generate 1million naiara as monthly income.

Depreacherman:
Things like this shouldn't make front page because the OP stated it clearly as his PERSONAL OPINION. @OP if you are summoned in the law court, you can't even defend any of these trash.

AreaFada2:
Because it is not an oil producing state. The coded aim of this thread is to say that FG should be the one squandering oil money and not the people that produce it.

Oil is the only thing keeping Nigeria together. Nigeria is a bitterly divided country otherwise. Nothing else. So they are after oil.

They just insert one or two non-oil producing states there to deceive people. And we know which parts of Nigeria most of the come from.

One quoting his wife from Delta is also deception mode. That is why some religion does not allow their women to marry men of other religion. The woman comes under the man's control.

laudate:
Bros, why are you putting sand-sand into their matter again? Don't take us back to what started the fight on this thread, o! You will just end up resurrecting Mathy001, the ND defender of Urhobo extraction! That guy takes no prisoners, at all. We have begged him to sheathe his sword and he has done so. Abeg, don't wake him up again, o!

ndoeyopbennet:
I hate that stream of thought where anyone who questions the veracity of Biafra is deemed to be from Oduduwa or Arewa. It is one of the issues I raised.

Ojukwu left power for Effiong because of necessity not because it was planned so that analogy fails to hold waters with me. So far, Ndiigbo has not really done much to show their hand of friendship to other neighbouring ethnic groups. Far from it, its youths have been making enemies where there were none. A case in point is the enmity between Bini and Urohobo people with Igbos due to some of the careless statements Ipob youths make online.

Let us learn to build bridges and makes others see the beauty in our cause and fights rather than make enemies because we feel we don't need others to actualise our dreams.

ndoeyopbennet:
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I've written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igboid groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I've been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I've also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.

When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I'm not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.

I won't waste time so I'll just proceed to list the issues I want to raise as well as state my arguments. Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed. Please let's set a good precedence from hereon.

1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other's excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?

2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won't be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don't expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won't go.

3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
[img]http://4.bp..com/-REk3IMlg9oQ/VlQcxNkh6II/AAAAAAAAMfQ/e0gelrqN7vU/s1600/biafra.jpg[/img]

If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I've seen comments such as "if you don't like it, go and stay in Sokoto", "all land in the South is Biafraland", etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?

4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn't Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won't get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can't deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.

5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.

6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.

7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the "heroes" of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.

8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his "oil" to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.

9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.

10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people's thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?


Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won't pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals. I hold no grudge towards anyone or any group.




- Inibehe Bennet (Akwa Ibom State Indigene).

discusant:
Please spare me of your insensitivity. It's not out of bound to mention the name Urhobo.
Methinks in 1967, Urhobo and Itshekiri and whatever in today's Delta state outside the Igbos of old Midwestern region were never included in Biafra.

The guy who brought this thread didn't include Urhobo and Itshekiri as part of new Biafra. So you are dissipating energy for nothing.

bigfrancis21:
Well, her full name is Sandra Ngozi Okoro. That should tell you where she is from.

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pazienza: