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I love the role Atiku is playing in the Nigerian Politics. He will never be president, yet he'll never let it be an easy walk of fame for some who wish it would

I hope my fears will be wrong.
This guy is sounding more like a politician than an intellectual.

LordIsaac:
President Asiwaju has maintained a very calm personality in the face of daily insults…and God has been uplifting him irrespective. I have a lot to learn from him regarding managing dissent!

God & Tinubu cannot be in the same sentence.

Hemeshemeheru:
I had a dream yesterday. I saw one of my tooth fell off.

Can any mature or experience folk help with the real meaning to this dream.

Small famine is underway! Prepare and save for it.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong! God loved man first.

Then man akways does something which greatly annoys Him and makes Him withdraw His love from him even unto turning His love to hate, as shown by the same snake story.

But this does not in anyway negate the fact that God Loved and He took the first steps of Love before man messed it up.

Apt!

Dtruthspeaker:
John 3:16 already shows you a lying demon

Clearly a lying spirit.

Believers on this platform need to be careful on consuming information from their kinds.

Kobojunkie:
Was it not your claim as well that you pray to God for good partners? Well, God does not answer the prayers of those who are unholy AND God made clear that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God.

Notice how you continually subscribe to ideas that are antichrist in orientation.

Lol
Which is Antichrist? Praying to God for a partner or that the idea of marriage is not supported by God?

Kobojunkie:
Another thing, which God do you claim to pray to there cause you definitely cannot be praying to the God of Israel whose Son is Jesus Christ given what He revealed thousands of years ago regarding the how of His relationship to mankind particularly in the area of prayer.

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You see, Scripture states that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas and requests and every petition, praise, offering, work, plea, sacrifice, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by their sins(disobedience/unholiness) and are hence an abomination to God. So, what is definite is that even your many pleas for the forgiveness of sins are not answered by God given that God made no special exemptions for that kind of plea. No amount of praying can cause God to change His mind regarding that which concerns the unrighteous by the way. So if you are thinking of prescribing more prayers that only means you don't understand or know God at all.

God, however, openly bragged about how He only answers the prayers of the righteous; He delights in granting them the desires of their heart meaning that they are those who he loves. For this very reason, Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God and God's Righteousness so that all things— the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(holiness), answers to prayers included—shall be added on to them. As Jesus Christ explained in His Gospel, the only way to become Holy, and then also Righteous, is by way of continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, god's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of god - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23. Jesus Christ is the only way. Obedience to the Truth of God is the only path to God and His righteousness. No amount of praying and other religious rituals can accomplish that.

Now, God deals indirectly with the unrighteous, the same way He deals with the unbelievers including the wicked and the ungrateful and that is by pouring out His mercy and kindness on them daily. So every time as an unrighteous you feel that God has answered your prayer know that at that same moment, or moments before that, God also provided the same mercy or similar to someone else across the world — or maybe just across from you— who does not even believe in God, nor asked God for anything.

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OP, you have continually disregarded God's truth to assert yours in its place several times on this thread alone. So, ask yourself, how can you be of the same God whose rulings you violate? Is God just a mumu to you?

You have gone ahead to talk plenty stories that I did not send or ask you.

The discussion is on marriage. Is God looking forward to perfecting a bride for His Son Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
God does not originate relationships. There are no relationships that are of the Will of God. We know because God's Will — His Law and Covenant— states that your marriages are of this earth and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

2. Take a walk around to see the many faces of suffering right there in your churches. You will find there couples who claimed to have been of God's will and even pretended to have heard from God, yet suffering. (Some of them were groomed and joined by your pastors and mogs.) Why because they chose a lie over commonsense. Look at the records of the many children who have died over the many years you have been in those churches. Compare to see that there is no difference between that which happens in your churches and that which takes place in the world outside of it. Ignorance is not bliss!

Pray to have a good wife man! If not body go tell you. You guys just choose what to see in the bible and force it to answer your narrative.
Read Luke 20 again.

You have a choice to allow God reveal a path of success for you.
You have a choice to allow God lead you into a career
You have a choice to allow God lead you into a marriage.

I'll say it again!

To the saints of God, truly genuine in their pursuit of pleasing the Lord Jesus!

Did God originate your relationship? Are you sure you acted on the will of the Lord, your God?

If yes...

Confirm that God is with you again and again, strengthen your resolve and walk with him, He'll show up to prove his word alive. Look out for the signs of His unfailing promise, He does not speak a thing and subject it to impossibilities!

No biological or medical circumstance can stand as a limitation to the word of God!



@ Mvnster
@ Jaephoenix

Mvnster:
I completely agree with you, but why dont you take this your mountain of faith to a sickle cell clinic and heal some surfering children?
You want to hide behind the name of God to carry on with willful ingorance and bring more children into this world to suffer? What exactly are you??

Oh dear, I can tell you of the goodness of God, with proofs. You really need to know this Jesus we are talking about.

Kobojunkie:
Of course you do! By asserting that it is one of your many fruitless prayers that will magically bring about my salvation, you mark/steal for yourself glory from God. That's exactly one of the many things the Pharisees used to do..

Not just mine prayer, but that of your family, perhaps your parents, or maybe your siblings or maybe some friend somewhere who is now in the Faith, they might all have prayed for you... and Jesus will be glorified, even in your life.

MaxInDHouse:
All His promises are to be fully enjoyed when His Kingdom comes until then we just have to manage whatever situation we find ourselves as believers!

Does the highlighted above mean I can partly enjoy some before the Kingdom comes?

GreatAchiever1:
There are no Prophets or Apostles of our times today.

God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
— Hebrews 1:1-2

We have the counsel of God to direct our lives through His words in the Holy Scriptures.

Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.
— 2 Peter 1:2-3

You lost me right there.

GreatAchiever1:
He who finds a wife finds a good thing
And obtains favor from the Lord.
— Proverbs 18:22

Again, God cannot pick a spouse for you, it's your choice to pick a spouse for youself as long as she's a believer in Christ, there are verses in the bible that one can use to find a virtuous and prudent wife in his search.
And if one freely choose to marry a prostitute, no problem with that as long as she's repentant of that lifestyle and comes to faith in Christ.

Hos.1.2 - When the LORD began to speak by Hosea, the LORD said to Hosea: "Go, take yourself a wife of harlotry And children of harlotry, For the land has committed great harlotry By departing from the LORD." -- null

jmoore:
You just dey quote verse without full knowledge of the story.
There was a specific instruction from Abraham to his servant not to take any canaanite woman as a wife for Isaac. God granted the prayers of the servant based on the choices and requirements they want.

Sir, did God orchestrate the selection or not?

GreatAchiever1:
No He cannot, how would God ask two AS people to marry? How is both the Man and the Woman being AS be the will of God when they both know the Medical implications.
If you are in this condition, my brother, no put God's will in that angle to justify this thing.

One more question sir. Can God ask you to marry a prostitute?

jmoore:
Numbers 36:7. The daughters of Zelophohad didn't want their property to be inherited by other tribe. God then told them to marry anyone they like within their own tribe. God didn't pick any specific husband for them. God no dey choose wife or husband.

Genesis 24:14

14 May it be that when I say to a young woman, ‘Please let down your jar that I may have a drink,’ and she says, ‘Drink, and I’ll water your camels too’—let her be the one you have chosen for your servant Isaac. By this I will know that you have shown kindness to my master.”

Kobojunkie:
You mean one of your countless fruitless prayers is somehow going to grant me this to your glory? You people are so full of yourselves in your ignorance of God as you beat your chests like the pharisees before you.

I do not seek mine Glory, rather that your salvation will be to the Glory of the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

GreatAchiever1:
Before marriage, the couples know that they are both AS, and they are aware of the consequences of what will happen in that union and you're putting God to the test to perform a miracle for you when it happens when that a child is SS.

Do you think God is a genie from Aladdin that will grant any of your wish to become a reality. Bro this is a wrong view of God.

And No, God no longer appears to anyone physically to tell you things, wr have the bible for that, don't be deceived.

Did you read the part where I said, so long as the relationship began by the will of God and God is the author and originator of it?

Does that statement appear like speculation to you?
Or do you want to imply that God cannot ask two AS persons to marry?

TenQ:
You are misunderstanding me.
I accept the will and command of God 100%. If God directly told me to jump down from a 100 storey building, I will do it.

However, has God Commanded me so?
No!

You Matinox can do what you have asked because you are convinced it is God's will and you have the necessary faith to pull it through.

However, you cannot make such rules for others because they are not you.

As believers, we hear God differently!
As believers, we have different levels of faith!
As believers, we hear God differently!

Are we all 100% sure of God's voice when He speaks to us?
If the person you ask to exercise faith is not 100% sure the voice is hearing is that of God: have you not set him up for regret?

Let everyone relate to God at the level of their Faith.
Rom 12:6:
"Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;"


Thou shalt not tempt the Lord your God.

Beautiful! This more like it!

However kindly note that if you read my texts again, you will realize I did not with the slightest intent, create a rule for all believers to proceed with marrying whoever they want, despising biological and medical precautions.

What I addressed is that the noise around this genotype thing will make even Genuine believers who really heard God, doubt the God they heard, and most times make a ship wreck of their faith, so those were my way of saying, Brethren, once you are sure you have Jesus in your relationship boat, stay trusting and believing. If your faith cannot proceed, seek His Will and call it off if He lets you, but never place any medical or biological circumstance above the word of God! It's the way of our fathers and the patriarchs, eve old testament saints.

Blessings & Peace.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, I am not moved by meaningless religious bullsheet so don't bother spewing that trash my way.

Again, by using Jesus Christ's mention to encourage foolishness and ultimately wickedness in others, is it really your intention that we believe you know Jesus Christ?

I can clearly see that you are moved bro. It is my prayer that you will one day meet the Lord and enjoy his salvation!

MaxInDHouse:
First of all we need to know what God's said about we humans in general:

All (mankind) have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 2:23

This means we aren't fit to fulfil what God said in the beginning in a perfect sense when God said:

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

After Adam sinned the highlighted in blue has been removed henceforth we have to be extra careful when doing certain things.
You can't just choose someone and marry him or her simply because both of you are good friends otherwise you have to sacrifice other things you may like due to the love you have for such a person.

Genotype shouldn't have been a problem at all if mankind is not under the curse of Adamic sin {Romans 5:12} we could have walked up to anyone we choose and start a happy family.


As regards what God can do He never promise mankind a solution to our problems now so all our problems will be solved when His kingdom come {Matthew 6:9-10} what we need now is try to cope with whatever situation we find ourselves the assurance is there that Christ Jesus has paid for our sin so when the richly blessing is here we will have all our heart desires! John 16:33

Does this mean that I cannot enjoy the promises of God in scripture when I become a new creature? And have to wait till His Kingdom comes?

Kobojunkie:
And you believe you do even as you use Jesus Christ as reason to encourage foolishness and ultimately wickedness in others?

It is foolishness if Jesus was not in the beginning of the relationship. But if Jesus was with you both from the beginning, then it is foolishness and death to people like you, but Glory and Faith to those who believe their God and knows that he makes all things beautiful in it's time!

jmoore:
You dey talk babablu. Obeying speculations is not obeying God's words.

I dey talk marriage, you dey talk salvation. It is obvious you are still a baby in christ cos you don't even stay in one topic.

Finally, anyone that knows he is AS and the partner is AS too and they agree to get married despite the obvious danger. If any of the kid becomes SS, then the parents are more wicked than the devil.

There's no speculation in what I said, Everything I said centred on God's word for the couple who are both AS, but you who is an adult in the faith, is still insisting that even if God appears to you physically and say marry the girl, you will still say NO because AS and AS marrying cannot be God.

Abi is that not your stand?

jmoore:
God gave me a brain. Speculation is not confirmation.

God gave you brain, not for independence, but for choice, so that you can clearly see that you have an option, to choose to know him, and walk with him and serve him or not.

Hope you know that with the brain you have, you've not been able to figure out why death is still inevitable, many researches have been carried out, no profitable results. The only way to life & life eternal, and power over death, is by believing in Jesus and obeying him and serving him as Lord.

jmoore:
If God doesn't change your genotype before marriage, break the relationship and find another partner.

Then you have to question the genuineness of your walk with God, and how much you know Him, because if you heard God with confirmations following, even from your brethren, what you said is not the way to go!

It's either you heard God or you did not! Let's not exalt any biological circumstance above the Word of God!

Abuse of the rule of law is imminent in Nigeria.
This government in the long run will be forced to eat its own vomit, they'll harvest the seeds they sowed in bogus baskets of regrets.

I see Nigeria becoming to slimy for Tinubu to handle, he planted the seeds of disorder by himself.

jmoore:
If you are absolutely sure, let the miracle happen for you before marriage. Stop shifting the miracle to unborn kids. What if after marriage, and you give birth to kids with SS? Even the bible said 'my people perish for lack of knowledge'.
It is simply SELFISHNESS to embark on such.

You did not answer the question brother.
You said Let the miracle happen, but I asked What if God decides not to change it before marriage?

Mvnster:
It's sickening to read through and realize that believers also share the same medical sentiments



What exactly does this rubbish you put out there mean? Because one is a believer he should put aside whatever medical advice there is and hold on to faith right? Ive given you my own advice too, when you are ill or you get hit by a car do not go to a hospital, sit at home and pray in faith.

If these conclusions are what you understand by all I said, then I'm afraid you are as unintelligible as your replies are.

jmoore:
Any Christian with sense that is AS and the partner is AS should focus on the prayers on themselves and not the unborn kids. Let the miracle change your AS to AA before you decide to marry.

So what if God decides not to change it before marriage, and you and your partner are absolutely sure with multiple confirmations that God will have you marry?