₦airaland Forum

nairalanda1:
Yeah, yeah, OBi na prudent man, gej wore no shoes, obasanjo fought for democracy, tinubu built Lagos, Buhari will fight corruptiuon, etc...no be the same format we dey hear before. Even Atiku is coming with 'I have experience'

Even if Obi is prudent, 90% of the people voting for him, from all tribes in this country, are voting for their pocket, not for development. Likewise most of the people surrounding him same thing. That is why he will be unable to take sane decisions needed for this country.

(Tinubu is like most nigerians, so yeah, after all he campaigned on emilokan. Hearing that ..you know that there would be no change).

Above is why most African countries are underdeveloped. Most of you want free money, and things to be made cheap, you don't want acutal industrialization, actual fighting of corruption, because it would hurt a lot of people, and actual serious fiscal controls. Na cheap food, cheap house etc. And it is this desire for cheap things that is weakening our economy, and ironically making things harder.

Bro, when you discuss with an average Nigerian like this you'll see that redemption is still far from the country because they're yet to even get past the first stage of repentance (acknowledging and accepting one's faults/shortcomings) talk more of advancing to the next stage......when they're finally ready to accept that the very leaders they have in this country are a reflection of the larger population then they could begin their journey of redemption..... anything is going round the same circle/doing the same thing and expecting different results.

It's not a coincidence that law enforcement agencies,the spiritual leaders,the manufacturers,the food vendors etc are mostly crooks and they're always looking for a way to cut corners.....the system is driven by this mindset and one man alone (the president) can't bring about the much needed change but yeah they can keep on blaming everyone but themselves.

Tenses:
I am a hardworking Nigerian. I have no affiliate with PO. I have never see the man physically before in my life.

"PO no dey give shishi" no be guy name, nah fact.

We need a prudent man to steer the affair of this country and that man is PO.

So my man support your tinubu with your chest. No dey come corner corner.

You don't want this country to be good so that you would stay relevant to those gullible enough to listen to your nonsense.

He is right to some extent and maybe you lack critical thinking ability that's why you can't see it......Nigeria as a society is built to even fight/refuse/resist good.....of course Obi could be the right leader but the right leader leading the wrong people or being surrounded by the wrong people will only bring little or no difference that's why the Nigeria of your dreams is still far away..... difference will be felt when Obi gets there but it could not be as much as you're seeing it in your imaginations.

Have you tried not being corrupt in your work place or try to being upright in the midst of average Nigerians, the very same people attacking the leaders will frustrate your life and fight against you.....for Nigeria to be as great as you want it to you have to realize that the change must start and be well felt and deep rooted in the grassroots....while the leaders are in a position to make more impactful and significant change the people must be willing.... you can force a horse to the river but you can't force it to drink the water.

fxexperts:
ogbeni keep deceiving yourself. you will cry blood last last.

The bl**d you're already crying or which one?. .

HeatSeeker:
I would have taken her seriously if she did this with the Qur'an. You already know Christians will not visit you with violence if you engage in profanities with sacred objects. Try this with the Muslims... Let's see if you will walk on the streets freely.

So what you're talking about is something to be proud of eh?. .

frankson1:
You're happy that a buffalo 🐃, an animal was given the full name of the most powerful president. This is sickening man

Don't animals bear human names?.....okay maybe I should be crying instead.....waaaahhh waaahhh wwaaahh...happy now?.

brain54:
The bull wasn't spared because it was named Donald Trump...


It was spared because it is a rare albino species.

It's now also at the national zoo. Not anywhere receiving presidential treatment or as a source of wealth to it's owner. It's now owned by the government.

It's your topic you created bro. Did you read it?

Would it have gone viral and gotten such attention if it weren't name after Trump?.....and yes it is receiving presidential treatment after going viral after all it was destined to be food and sacrifice by now....and also, you think the government would just take it away from the owner without any form of decent compensation eh?. .

Mariangeles:
Yes.
Didn't your mother protect you with her life?

Didn't his father also protect him with his life?. .

harryboyng:
..so..e mean say Las Las...dem no go chop am?...

Yes....him own don beta....you no see how them day even pamper am join....he has made it. .

TenQ:
If you think that is, good for you. But I have never defended America, NATO, EU or otherwise cheating a weaker nation.

Unfortunately, you cannot claim otherwise as you vehimently justify the reasons why it is proper and right for Russia to invade a smaller neighbour !

On this, I rest my case.
As far as you are concerned, Putin your idol is correct and should take what belongs to another sovereign independent country.

It is called by no other name than ARMED ROBBERY!
Thank God for the Comedian and Clown who stopped them.
Five years counting and the Russian Bear is dazed!

Keep explaining....the receipts of all your hypocrisy is here for all to see. .

Things that being connected to greatness can get you.....from being marked for sacrifice to becoming popular because you're named after one of the most powerful man in the world.....he's now getting Presidential treatment as well as being a source of wealth and tourism to the owner and maybe the owner named him after Trump as a form of mockery (who knows). .

“Donald Trump” the buffalo was hours away from being sacrificed for Eid al-Adha… until the Bangladeshi government stepped in.

The rare albino buffalo, named for its blond tuft of hair, had already been sold for ritual slaughter when viral videos turned it into a national attraction.

Crowds started flooding the farm to see the nearly 1,500-pound animal in person, forcing officials to intervene due to security concerns.

Now the buffalo is headed to the national zoo in Dhaka instead.

https://www.facebook.com/100059396147148/posts/1415524147104110/?app=fbl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYTWNkuGwgo

donleo92:
USA know say Iran na just mouth them get

Iran dey feel say na by been ally to china

USA don go China to tell those ones make them stay clear from the whole issue oh

Also they're refusing to accept that US has the upper hand from almost every angle you chose to look at it from.

TenQ:
I don't defend bullying from any nation or coalition including USA, NATO, EU etc. I call a spade a spade unlike you.

It is you who brainlessly defend Russia because you hate USA, NATO, EU and Western Countries you perceived are led by America.

Russia did wrong to Ukraine: it is you who justify it not me

Lol....keep explaining....just take a scroll backwards in our discussion and find that long series of points you made justify US actions in Cuba. .

TenQ:
All these because Ukraine wouldn't surrender to a Bully Nation.

All these to justify why it is okay for Russia to invade another sovereign Nation.

All these because perceived Comedian and Clown had the Balls to stand to the face of the short war veteran: and FIVE years after, the Clown is still STANDING.


Never in the Life of Putin and Russia will they EVER attempt to Invade Ukraine again

All this to defend America attacking a sovereign nation.

All this because comedian has failed.

Never in the life of comedian will he attempt joining NATO. .

TenQ:
If that's what you've understood me to mean: its your cup of tea

Lol.....they've lost 90% of their military while that of Ukraine are invincible,no navy, only weapons left are shovels,they're weak and vulnerable..... isn't that what you want to believe....good do it so you'll be able to sleep better at night. Ur likes aren't new to me at all. .

TenQ:
I am not supporting USA nor NATO nor EU nor the West.

I support Ukraine with respect to Russian bullying

Yet your spent valuable time to write series of points justifying why America had to attack Cuba. .

TenQ:
I flipped your own test on you and you failed. This is hypocrisy!

Which test...lol.

Oh....more self delusion... anything to make you sleep better at night okay. .

TenQ:
This wasn't my question

I said:
Using this your argument
What then in your opinion gives Russia the right then to attack Ukraine?


I am waiting!

Same reason US you defended attacked Cuba..... nuff said.

TenQ:
So, you admit the failed in this quest to install a regime change in another sovereign nation.

Lets assume that Russia succeeded in instituting a regime change in Ukraine. Would the new leadership be servant to the Ukrainian people or to Putin/Russia?


Is this correct by you that any big country can invade Nigeria to effect a regime change?

I wasn't arguing this at all.... hypocrisy and self delusion is something I don't have in me.

TenQ:
1. Correct: it is actually impossible for Putin
2. It is actually Russia that is being Demilitarised now. Where is the Russian Navy? Hiw many armoured tanks does Russia still have now? Has Russia restored the third of their destroyed strategic air frames?
3. Neutrality had been statuesque. NATO had not invited Ukraine meaning that Russia was fighting a war of assumption.
4. Five years on Donbas!? More than 90% of Donbas was already captured by Russia in the first year of the war. Now, Russia is crawling like a snail loosing General and privates alike.
5. Denazification!? Even Russians are confused by what they mean by the word.
5. Recognition of independence of separatist regions: The Russian horde are angry that Zelensky not surrender!
LOL!


Perhaps, Putin should send an emisry to Kiev to beg that Zelensky surrender?
SMH!!

Okay Russia have lost everything and they're fighting with shovels.....happy now?. .

TenQ:
Almost five years the gallant soldiers of Ukraine stood against the onslaught of the Russian horde and they have NOT even been able to occupy their desired four Oblasts.

It seems you forgot that Russia was stopped at Kiev in the first 14 days of the war.

Tell me, what was the Russian Army doing in Kiev when all they wanted is the four oblasts?

Cremia!?
It seems you do not know that Ukraine had been relentlessly bombing Russian military assets in Cremia and in all the occupied oblasts.

Sorry!

Putin cannot be wrong!
Russia is perfect!

Only brainwashed people think like this

Stop asking dumb questions....they were in Kyiv to instill regime change.....they never had any intention to annex entire Ukraine.

TenQ:
Using this your argument
What then in your opinion gives Russia the right then to attack Ukraine?

I am waiting!
This goal shifting Hypocrite!

Same reason US attacked Cuba.....I brought up the example for a reason.....and now that you've been defending them....why are you against Russia?. .

TenQ:
Lets look at the demands of Putin at the beginning this senseless war

1. Regime change in Kyiv
2. Demilitarization of Ukraine
3. Denazification
4. Neutrality/Non-alignment
5. Recognition of independence of separatist regions

Which has been achieved?

1) very difficult at this point in time
2) 60%+ achieved but can hardly reach 90% talk more of 100%
3) Neutrality has been 99.9% achieved as no chance of joining NATO.
4) Liberation of donbas has also being achieved regardless of Ukraine acceptance or not..... that's the reality that Mr comedian is grappling with till date failing to realize that he can't do anything about it.

TenQ:
All you needed to do was to ask yourself
Who organised and conducted the referendum?

Was it UN or Ukraine or Russia?

All I needed to ask myself was why Ukraine as a whole wasn't taken if it was just a matter of Russia showing it strength......since Crimea was taken till today I've never heard of a disdain instead like I stated earlier and you ignored..... wasn't it the same Ukraine that attacked Crimea during this present conflict?.....if they view them as forcefully departed brothers then why are they attacking them?....I guess logic isn't ur thing though....just swallow some lumps of propaganda and all is good. .

TenQ:
Is compression your problem

Who was building the nuclear missile base in Cuba: was it Cuba or the Soviet Union?

So if Nigeria is building something in Cameroon with the government of Cameroon approval, Egypt can attack Cameroon right?.....thanks for establishing your hypocrisy. .

TenQ:
But I see Zelensky as a Hero who wouldn't allow
1. Ukraine to be permanently crippled under Russia militarily, economically and politically.
2. Who had been a pillar in the strength of Ukraine able to stand against Russia a country that is btw 8-12 bigger in all ramifications
3. Who has turned Ukraine into a military powerhouse in Europe
4. Who has earned the respect of even Russia. Never in their lives will Russia attempt to invade Ukraine again. They gave Russia a bloody nose. Its not a small fit to cause Russia more than a million war casualties and virtually wiped out Russian Armoured tanks and Navy

The Russian speakers that dominate the donbas also see Putin as a hero for liberating them....Also...
1)You mean the so called crippling they couldn't do long ago?.....or were they lacking the capacity to do that years ago?. .

2)All his pillarship will end at nothing if he still couldn't join NATO and lose the donbas which holds significant amount of his country's rare earth minerals.

3) Ukraine has always been a military power house in Europe which is part of the reason why Russia forbids they fall into enemies hands.

4)More propaganda and sooth saying.... .....let them achieve peace and dare to enter NATO again let's see if Russia will invade or not....and about your imaginary million casualties,wiped out armoured tanks and navy.....why not just add the popular propaganda of Russia fighting with shovels as well and spice it with it's the ghosts of Kyiv that still keeping the donbas under Russian country since almost all have been lost for them huh?. .


Because strength has helped someone achieve so much in life doesn't mean he should rely on it at all times......all the comedian could've done was go to the table guarantee the safety of the Russian speakers in donbas,declare not to join NATO and maintain a neutral stand between the west and Russia but he feels he has millions of life to play with to fill his ego and now those who pushed him are broke and have abandoned him.

TenQ:
You mean at gun point?

Because, the referendum took place AFTER Russia annexed Cremia.
Did you forget this?


We have United Nations for such a purpose like self determination.

Will it be legal for USA to Invade Nigeria, carve out the Niger Delta area amd claim they voted to be an independent country?

Except you dont know your history. Cuba had never in history being a little brother to USA. Cuba had NEVER being under US protected unlike Ukraine.

Still hypothetical!
Ukraine wanted to join bith EU and NATO.
They were given a greenlight for EU membership but never NATO membership.

I dont care about any other country other than Ukraine here.

Present evidence regarding this(Crimea voting at gun point)because I won't take information from your source that claimed Russia has 1M casualties in this present conflicts. .


It won't be legal and that's same thing those supporting Ukraine have been doing as well.....I thought they were all saints....About the UN.... they're another political tool....there are many countries that need separating for peace to reign but they've done nothing about them.

That was never my point..... everyone should have the freedom to chose who to align with....if Cuba feels they'll be safer with Russia....why should that be anyone's problem?.

I repeat again that's because of the Russian concern or don't you understand English?.

You mean you don't care about same US you've been defending here about Cuba?.

TenQ:
You asked a question and I answered you from the point of view of Ukraine that its not a similar case

To your questions:
Is it Cuba that was building a Nuclear base in Cuba (a domestic affair) or the Soviet Union building a Nuclear base in Cuba (a foreign affair)

In this case, it was the Soviet Union building her Nuclear weapon base in Cuba.

And when you talk, always retrospect
Did Russia install their Nuclear Missile facility in Belarus. For your information Belarus is a neighbour to EU.

Still beating about the bush......so Cuba is no longer a sovereign country?.

TenQ:
1. Why did Russia annex Cremia?
Because it has nothing to do with Ukraine wanting to join NATO!

Is it possible that Russia did it to take the strategically important warm sea port that belonged to Ukraine?

2. What did Russia achieve strategically by annexing Cremia?
Did Ukraine suddenly began to love Russian's and see them as protectors a d big brother?


3. After the annexation of Cremia, is it LOGICAL that Ukraine looked for another protector other than Russia?

4. 2008, 2014 and 2018 Ukraine took steps to join NATO. Is it true that Ukraine was never formally promised NATO membership nor Were they formally invited into NATO?



Just concede that Russia is terrible at their foreign policies. You want Ukraine to be an Ally but your strategy is to clip its wings.



It seems you did not know the reason Ukrainians opposed Viktor Yanukovych
What Ukrainian decision did he reverse that cost him his presidency?

1) Crimea wanted to be part of Russia....there was a referendum and they voted to be with Russia....your Ukraine so loved Crimea that they attacked them severally during this present confrontation. .

2) They achieved giving humans want they want which is what democracy and justice is all about.

3)But it wasn't logical for Cuba to look for another protector right.....you'll expose yourself with your sentiments sooner than later. .

4) Ukraine were preparing to join NATO and NATO would've accepted them if Russia kept mum......and just like Cuba this is a preemptive attack and you defended one above because it's from the side you like.

Just concede that the people supporting Ukraine are terrible at their foreign policies. They want other countries eg Cuba, Venezuela, Afghanistan etc to be an Ally but their strategy is to clip their wings brutally by war if necessary.

TenQ:
I am definitely pro-Ukraine.

Unfortunately, you think erroneously that anyone that is pro-Ukraine must also be pro-NATO and pro-West and pro-EU and pro-America. SMH!

This was the error in your so-called Cuba question

Your question about Cuba is irrelevant to me as I do not wrt Ukraine defend USA.

Not withstanding, its completely different scenarios
1. The Soviet Union had secretly begun deploying nuclear missiles in Cuba to protect Fidel Castro's regime and counter U.S. missiles in Turkey
Note:
It wasn't a suspicion or insinuation by the US. Unlike Russia who assumed Ukraine was being actively brought into NATO

2. U.S. U-2 spy plane photographed the nuclear missile sites actively under construction in Cuba by Russia
Note:
This wasn't an assumption but an active construction.

3. President Kennedy discussed with his cabinet options of bombing the sites, invasion or blockade of Cuba.
The US president addressed the nation on TV, revealing the missiles and announcing a naval "quarantine" (blockade) of Cuba to prevent more Soviet weapons from arriving

4. Soviet ships approach the blockade line but were stopped and turned back, avoiding direct confrontation.


5. In October , a U.S. U-2 plane is shot down over Cuba, killing the pilot. Military advisors urge invasion, but Kennedy chooses diplomacy

6. On October 28, 1962, Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev announced he would dismantle and remove the missiles from Cuba

7. Crises was resolved!

Note that there were DIRECT and "PROVABLE" involvement of the Soviet Union in this matter.

There was high level stake negotiations between the USA and the Soviet Union.







Knowing this (I am not defending USA in any way as they are not my concern)

1. Why did Russia annex Cremia?
Because it has nothing to do with Ukraine wanting to join NATO!

Is it possible that Russia did it to take the strategically important warm sea port that belonged to Ukraine?

2. What did Russia achieve strategically by annexing Cremia?
Did Ukraine suddenly began to love Russian's and see them as protectors a d big brother?


3. After the annexation of Cremia, is it LOGICAL that Ukraine looked for another protector other than Russia?

4. 2008, 2014 and 2018 Ukraine took steps to join NATO. Is it true that Ukraine was never formally promised NATO membership nor Were they formally invited into NATO?



Just concede that Russia is terrible at their foreign policies. You want Ukraine to be an Ally but your strategy is to clip its wings.



It seems you did not know the reason Ukrainians opposed Viktor Yanukovych
What Ukrainian decision did he reverse that cost him his presidency?

I've told you earlier that hypocrisy isn't good.....just come out and be plain.... simple.

You claimed you're not defending the US in that scenario but went ahead to do so with different points....... should any country determine how another do their thing when they didn't attack them directly?..... wasn't Cuba a sovereign nation and don't they have the right to align with whomever they want to?.....Did they attack America to trigger a response?......or you think justice is sentimental?.

TenQ:
You forget that you are the confirmed Russian Apologist.
I dare you to show me anywhere I have defended NATO or America in this chat.

Do you agree that Russia is the coward for attacking Ukraine when in actual fact, NATO is their enemy?

You need no defend them to show your ur fangs......your avoiding my question regarding Cuba was enough indication.....so go ahead and answer them then you'll get your own reply to this question. .