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Thought provoking question!

Will you like to know the answer?

What will they achieve?
The Author said they will use what is found written in His book to teach themselves and thereafter divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using of weapons, and vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman again! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
Do you think the group that gathered people throughout the world to achieve this goal have the accurate information as inspired by the Author?

emmy512:
By “accurate,” I meant:
Is this still what the original writer meant?
Are we sure the message hasn’t been watered down, misinterpreted, or manipulated?
Are we reading what God intended when he inspired the writings or what generations of human hands and councjls have shaped it into?

Hmmmmmmm this is a wise question.

So to get the answer you and i need to go back to what the Author (God) said about the book.

The Author promised that in the last days which is our time (you can ask for proof to be sure that we are truly living in the last days) people from different geographical locations on this planet will start paying attention to His book {Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1} and they will study it with all seriousness so as to make it their constitution as a global group {Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2} and the result will be that this global group will successfully achieve something strange!

If you are travelling through a strange road with a map in your hand and people around you are complete strangers, what will guarantee your safety and certainty of getting to your preferred destination?

The first thing is self awareness that you are a stranger, second thing is humility to ask for help regarding your journey and willingness to admit that you've made a mistake when someone show you in the map that you've missed the road.

So in Christianity one is SAVED when he is always considering God's word day and night {Psalms 1:1-6} by listening to what others say about pure worship {Proverbs 2:2} and asking thought provoking questions {Matthew 7:7-8 compare to Proverbs 2:3} such a person shouldn't give up in assessing himself {Ephesians 5:17 compare to Proverbs 2:4} to be sure that he is with the right people travelling to the same destination! Matthew 7:13-14

Anyone could say "i'm saved" but it's good to examine oneself to be double sure!

Accurate in what sense?

Christianity has no dress code for those having faith in Christ Jesus what we need to put into consideration is our ministry as preachers and teachers of the Good News of God's Kingdom we are not under any law forbidden us not to express ourselves in dressing but due to the fact that some may be stumbled because of what we do there is need to think of the community in which we live!

Accurate in what sense?

TenQ:
You want me to come and learn bible from Maximus the servant of Allah aka Hubal, the Believing Muslim! !?
You forget that Mohammed himself is an Antichrist!
Your identity is truely revealed clearly!!

Your arrogance keep blurring your senses.
A Bible Study doesn't imply that one of us is teaching the other person rather both of us will look critically at what the Bible says about the GOOD NEWS of GOD'S KINGDOM and focus on it's fruit just as Jesus foretold we will see.
So stop this argumentative spirit and think of what is of utmost importance.

olaolaking:
That's not the point of my questions? I didn't ask if Judas betrayed or not. I just want a clarification about the accuracy of the Bible.

Accuracy of a story can only be assessed by the mouth of many witnesses who are in harmony regarding life of the main character not minor details!

olaolaking:
That's logical. However, isn't this a confirmation that the Bible is not completely accurate?
That Luke relied on eye witnesses account also raise another question - He didn't write what God inspired him but acted as a journalist

Of course he was moved by Holy Spirit to act that's why some events that other writers missed were found in the account of Luke because he acted as a journalist who asked from people like Mary (Jesus' mother, James (Jesus' brother) and other disciples.
So we don't expect his account to say exactly the same thing in some cases.

olaolaking:
The accuracy of the report matters especially as there were contradictions

If you want to investigate a matter is it the minor contradictions in details that you should focus on or the case at hand?
Four different individuals reported a case and each penned down what they are able to gather but they all concluded on the same point which is one prophet in Israel has proved to be the long awaited Messiah (Christ)
So the contradictions you pick on makes no practical sense as that's not what we want to know from the different writers.
Luke gathered what he heard so since he is not one of those who walked with Jesus directly there will surely be some points his record will reveal not exactly as the record of those who were present during the event!

TenQ:
I hail you Maximus the servant of Allah aka Hubal, the Believing Muslim! !
Your identity revealed clearly!!

Guy continue your business on Nairaland jàre if you have any interest in the Good News of God's Kingdom you can approach me for a Bible study but if not then goodbye!

TenQ:
Maximus the servant of Allah aka Hubal, the Believing Muslim!
Sorry!
Sleep well!

Whatever you may like to type my guy WHATEVER makes you sleep well!

TenQ:
Servant of Allah aka Hubal, we know you!

Ọmọ you and i aren't on the same page so go and sleep!

Emusan:
Says the person who lied that Jesus disciples won't die again when Jesus comes and begins to rule.
Yet to him Jesus has come and began to rule since 1914
So why are Jesus disciples still dying?
He can't answer

This answer is here:

Maximus692:
Please when did Michael send Satan and his demons out of heaven, before or after Jesus' ministry?

Answer and solve the puzzle!

Broveens42:
Stop confusing yourself.... Mr dribbler
Sin is destroyed or sin will be destroyed on Christ second coming?
Which is it?

The truth is SIN IS DESTROYED in Christ!

What does that mean?

If anyone is in Christ Jesus such a person has become invincible to sin.
Imperfect humans can't do without sin but a true Christian believes he or she is a sinner who needs help therefore he will always humble himself to make a u-turn (repent) unlike the unbeliever who is not aware of his imperfect state.

So with the knowledge that he is prone to sin and willingness to accept correction sin has been destroyed before a Christian.

That's why God's word says about a true believer:

For the RIGHTEOUS one may fall seven times, and he will get up again, But the wicked will be made to stumble by calamity. Proverbs 24:16

Why did God's word call someone who falls into sin SEVEN TIMES "RIGHTEOUS"?

Well that's because he is always ready to make amendment this is what it means to be a Christian so sin becomes powerless because sin makes it really difficult for the sinner to welcome correction but once the sinner welcomes correction then sin has been destroyed in Christ Jesus! Romans 7:15-25

God bless you and may you have peace!

TenQ:
Be at least a little Humble , it will save you!
Arrogance wouldn't allow him to know that there is a vast difference between Surrender and Submitting.
Submission is Willing Obedience by Choice
Surrender is Unwilling Obedience because you were Conquered or Subjugated
Islam is SURRENDERING to the Will of Allah it is not a SUBMISSION
You wouldn't learn because of the spirit of arrogance in you.

This really is a good comedy show!

Someone said Ṣeun is the son of a pastor surely it's the hypocrisy in the churches of Christendom that will come to his minds whenever he thinks of religion that's why he doesn't feel the same way towards the two religion.

Fela Anikulapo Kuti was also the son of a pastor if you know this man very well he always speaks against the churches!

MightySparrow:

Because I am here to debunk lies and hypocrisy. Check my signature.

Well i'm here to present the one and only true religion lies and hypocrisy abounds right from inception till now so my believe is that after God's only begotten Son has come to establish true religion interested persons needs to identify Jesus' group:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JW are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a Jehovah witness, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Satan has created countless religions all claiming believers in Jesus yet they contradicts themselves leading to divisions, hatred, fighting and killing among those claiming believers in the Prince of Peace.

So henceforth i will ignore any of your posts unless you talk about identifying the true religion practicing what Jesus taught.

Thanks for your time!

MightySparrow:
I have a Father in heaven, my own father who sent His Son, the firstborn from the dead, after whose order I am Gal. 2:20. He has asked me to come boldly to Him, not to an errant organization, for salvation. I am boldly declaring that Jesus is my saviour. Not Jehovah's Witnesses, witnessing against the atonement of Jesus.

So why are you WORRIED about what any other religion has to say about salvation if truthfully you are convinced in your heart that you have all these?

See your type claiming he knows what he is doing but 24/7 my profile name and organization lives rent-free in his head:

https://www.nairaland.com/8413625/maxindhouse-does-not-know-torah

https://www.nairaland.com/8306598/escaping-maxindhouses-organisation

https://www.nairaland.com/8225952/maxindhouse-why-does-oganisation-not

https://www.nairaland.com/8055834/89-year-old-joel-christe-resigns-maxindhouse

https://www.nairaland.com/7903820/maxindhouse-come-see-o-ten

https://www.nairaland.com/7835507/exposition-jesus-ex-member-maxindhouses-orgarnisation

https://www.nairaland.com/7779034/maxindahouse-what-charms-did-see

https://www.nairaland.com/7696735/maxindhouse-organisations-community-vs-jewish

https://www.nairaland.com/7696756/maxindhouse-org-call-home-call

https://www.nairaland.com/7423956/maxindhouse-why-did-jesus-allow

https://www.nairaland.com/7075625/maxindhouse-come-defend-watchtower-bible

DeepSight:
Either magnificent lies or magnificent ignorance. But certainly magnificent disingenuity. Suit yourself.

When you meet someone who genuinely stick to what he believes and speaks without wavering you don't like it so face the type you prefer as in people who are unstable with their beliefs!

sonmvayina:
Lol...ok.

Alright!

johnw47:
nairaland forums owner and moderators

for days or weeks now, someone has been playing games,
deleting many of my posts which as God Almighty knows have been the truth

in these end times someone among you is following satan the devil and loving to do so
i have taken this matter to God the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, and am content that whoever is responsible will be dealt with

Mat 13:49  So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous 
Mat 13:50  and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

Everyone believes he or she has the truth so try to be liberal and reason with people not calling them names claiming you have the truth!

sonmvayina:
Why would you go from door to door to tell them how to live their lives?
Makes no sense.
It's only a cult group that goes around looking for who to initiate.
God is within every one of us.

So let the one within me speak to me nah!

johnw74:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost false jw mad max
like i said: "you can always challenge me on that", which you haven't
cannot ever stop lying like the devil, quote where i lied about you
and i will show you yet once again to be a liar. false jw, you will ignore me because you know i will once again expose your never ending lies:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

If you're ready for mature discussion.

1. Which church do you attend?

2. Do your church agrees with all other churches in your street?

3. If they do why the segregation?

4. Everyone knows that all the churches differ in their teachings and doctrines does that makes all of them liars?

5. If not which one is teaching the truth?

My own answers

1. Jehovah's Witnesses
2. No!
3. We don't because we have a different God.
4. NO there is a church that teaches the truth.
5 . Jehovah's Witnesses.

Now answer the questions so we can discuss!

Aatami:
If you think deeply you will understand my point, someone living in abject poverty, hardly feed, suffering, praying for long life, What is essence of life of suffering,.?

The Bible answered your question!

God didn't create us to live for some time and die rather we were made to last forever that's why nobody wants to die:

He has made everything beautiful in its time. He (God) has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish. Ecclesiastes 3:11


Point of emphasis: God created us with eternity in our minds!

johnw47:
you can always challenge me on that

Challenge or argue with you?

Ọmọ when you are ready for mature talks we will reason together using God's word but for now it's obvious you are just obsessed with my posts you even lied outrightly about me after editing my posts.

So i'm ignoring you until you are ready to reason maturely from the scriptures!

nans24:
To who was the book of reveletion written to?

A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John, who bore witness to the word God gave and to the witness Jesus Christ gave, yes, to all the things he saw. Revelations 1:1-2

I'm sure your next question will be:

Who are the slaves of Christ?

That i will leave you to figure out yourself provided you are not of the opinion that all the countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming Christians are working for Jesus!

Antichristian2:
From the verses you quoted, Judas already went to hang himself before the chief priests went to buy the field!

Something is still not adding up!

You claimed as written in Matthew that the chief priests bought the field with the money Judas threw on the ground!

In Acts of Luke which I quoted the field was bought by Judas himself not by proxy and he died therein.

(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Acts 1:18

Matthew was one of the twelve following Jesus up and down but Luke gathered his informations from other believers:

I resolved also, because I have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them to you in logical order, most excellent The·ophʹi·lus. Luke 1:3

The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach. Act 1:1

So Luke's account was a third party account unlike Matthew, Mark and John who lived and worked together with Jesus in the ministry that's why his own records differ from that of Matthew!

If you know you know!
Only JWs are true followers of Christ that is what i'm saying and will continue to say for anyone who is willing to reason.

Jesus said:

“Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.  Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you" Matthew 5:11-12

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35


“These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. Keep in mind the word I said to you: A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours" John 15:17-20

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

If you want to verify what i'm saying just fix Jehovah's Witnesses in any of Jesus' comments above i'm sure sincerely you will thank me later:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

jmichael259:
This is sounding like zealotry or radicalism. Learn to reprove with kindness not putting one another down.

I don't even care whatever he thinks even after seeing the fine fruit of my posts on Nairaland he still wants to claim he's right with what he is saying!

Will all those people commending my post listen when next a JW knock on their door or send them away?

Most of his kind will easily live the group by the time the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses change what they've held onto dogmatically for years and start speaking against the organization.

Just of recent the Governing Body said it's no crime for men to wear beards and for ladies to put on slacks i am telling you that it took me hours to convince a co elder in the organization not to leave the group for this sudden change.

Why because he held onto most things dogmatically instead of acting wisely. Act 17:11