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Aemmyjah:
Only makes sense to your level of IQ

And a Virgin giving birth makes sense to yours.

TenQ:
The numbers of perpetual virgins vary o depending on the hadith you read and whether you are a a matyr or not.

The number varies from
2 Houris and several inmates of hell

70 Houri plus inmates of hell

72 Houri plus inmates of hell

Unlimited number of Houri plus inmates of hell

These doesn't exclude Muslim women and your wives here on earth.


Modern Muslims with lies : once you read their Tafsir you know that these are no fruit BUT the promise of Allah of perpetual big breasted, transparent, voluptuous, young perpetual virgins

Look up helios christos, christian.

SIRTee15:
Have checked Tertullian and his own web of lies. He did more work on early church writings than irenaeus.
Maybe that will help u feel better.

Tertulian also formed up the word “trinity”, a constantine concept.

Look up helios christos, you are worshipping a Roman Parody!

SIRTee15:
Have checked Tertullian and his own web of lies. He did more work on early church writings than irenaeus.
Maybe that will help u feel better.

Tertulian is a Montanist.

Of the many gospels written in antiquity, exactly four gospels came to be accepted as part of the New Testament, or canonical. An insistence upon a canonical four, and no others, was a central theme of Irenaeus of Lyon.

He claimed only four in number; according to Romer, "like the four zones of the world, the four winds, the four divisions of man’s estate, and the four forms of the first living creatures – the lion of Mark, the calf of Luke, the man of Matthew, the eagle of John."

The names of the authors of the gospels were assigned to the works by the early church fathers in the 2nd century AD; none of the writers signed their work as they remained unknown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVSMMThcPgs

Wilgrea7:
I'll leave it at that for now on this subject.

PLEASE NOTE: I am not saying a god does not or cannot exist. As an agnostic, I'm more than open to the idea in the presence of sufficient proof.

However, the arguments often put forward, like the ones stated above, do nothing to support the existence of a god, as they could be used to justify other things in place of this "god"

I hope theists who use these sort of arguments can learn from them. I'll also be making reference to this thread whenever arguments like these are used in the future.

MaxInDHouse, Aemmyjah, TenQ, and other people I've forgotten to mention, please take note of these. Criticisms and opinions are of course always welcome.

Define “Universe”, are you saying this creator created existence?
That means this creator cannot be a supreme “being”, maybe a supreme “non-being” though.

SIRTee15:
Good, we done here. What u doing now is denying evidence.

This is the evidence for your savior
https://timsteppingout./2015/10/01/early-christianity-irenaeus-and-his-web-of-lies/

SIRTee15:
Good, we done here. What u doing now is denying evidence.
I leave u to your folly or fantasy.

A book written by an unknown person is the evidence?
Polycarp never meant any john.
Iraeneus is a liar.


You must be a dullard like yahweh not to see this glaring.

SIRTee15:
Irenaeus couldn't have met any of the 12 disciples because they were all dead by the time he was born.
That's what I meant, thus cannot be qualified to be called an apostolic father.

Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp who died 155 AD.

Iranaeus couldn’t have said Polycarp was a student of john.
Even in the purported book written by polycarp, he never mentioned meeting john.
I asked you, who made this people “apostolic fathers”?

And the gospel of john was written by an unknown person, there is no JOHN.

There was no apostles to meet!

[quote author=SIRTee15 post=124839441][/quote]Dubious sources.

Polycarp never meat john.

John didn’t write any gospel, all the gospel are written by UNKNOWN!!!

SIRTee15:
Irenaeus didn't meet any of the 12 apostles, that's what I meant.
Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp. He would know if Polycarp met John the apostle.

Which john did he meet?

vdestro:
The Lord Who owns the house already owns it and if it is not another lord's own, then that one has his own house.

At least now the world knows that you are a devil.

Circe

SIRTee15:
Do u understand what's called chian of narration.
Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp.
Polycarp in his letter mentioned Ignatius.
Tertullian was another Christian writer who mentioned apostolic fathers.

Thought you said “ he couldn't have met any of them”
Now he is a student, well Irenaeus is a Liar, polycarp never met john.

Which fraudulent letter?

What century was Tertulian?
Hope you know Tertulian was a MONTANIST.

vdestro:
According to the book of devils.

Google already shows
Origin
Old English cir(i)ce, cyr(i)ce, ‘Lord's (house)’,

Which lord house?
https://www.nairaland.com/7765723/before-go-circus

SIRTee15:
Now answer my question, was polycarp, Clement and Ignatius Christian leaders in the 1st century. Yes or No.

NO, they were not, bring out your sources.

SIRTee15:
Apostolic fathers were early church leaders who personally met and knew the 12 apostles of Jesus.
Irenaeus was born in 130AD, he couldn't have met any of them.

All what you just said comes from iraneus, if he was born in 130AD, how did he know?
Surely he must have read it somewhere?
Post another evidence apart from iraneus that was not born then.

SIRTee15:
If u understand why they are called apostolic fathers, u won't mention Iraenius.

Why are they called the “apostolic fathers” by who?
Mention them, we can start with Linus and let’s see if they are truly that

SIRTee15:
Iraenius isn't one of the 5 apostolic fathers, Olodo.
If u understand why they are called apostolic fathers, u won't mention Iraenius.
Read u won't do, study u refuse. Instead u will be filling your head with rubbish conspiracy theories making claims u can't defend.

I will continue to knack your head with sense on nairaland until u repent.

You are the illiterate, i never said “5 apostolic father”, i said apostolic father.
And who made this people “5 apostolic fathers”?
I just showed you none of these met the apostles with the dates mentioned.

Who made this people “apostolic”?

SIRTee15:
Majority of what we know about Polycarp is from Iraenius, his student.

Also the gospel were written by UKNOWN AUTHORS!!

SIRTee15:
Majority of what we know about Polycarp is from Iraenius, his student.

Apart from him who again?
And was this not 100 years AFTER?
Is Iraenius also not an apostolic?
Who gave him the title?
A fraud using a forgery to ascertain himself.

Of the many gospels written in antiquity, exactly four gospels came to be accepted as part of the New Testament, or canonical. An insistence upon a canonical four, and no others, was a central theme of Irenaeus of Lyon.

He claimed only four in number; according to Romer, "like the four zones of the world, the four winds, the four divisions of man’s estate, and the four forms of the first living creatures – the lion of Mark, the calf of Luke, the man of Matthew, the eagle of John."

SIRTee15:
There's no vacuum in our church history to insert a bogus fantasy Roman story.

Illiterate, i am saying Iesus chrestus is a roman parody!

SIRTee15:
He's relevant because he was amongst the 1st century Christians leader who transitioned into 2nd century.
His life and death are well documented. He died a martyr.
His letter to Philippians is one of the preserved early church writings

All your nonsense talk about Christianity designed or invented by Romans in the 1st or 2nd century or whatever lacks credibility.

There's no vacuum in our church history to insert a bogus fantasy Roman story.

Everything you are saying comes from a book written by an UNKNOWN PERSON.

SIRTee15:
Did I ever mention Polycarp relationship with John. Did I?
What's wrong with u bringing up things never raised.

My question is simple.
Was polycarp a Christian in the first century? Yes or No.

How do you know polycarp then?
Why is he relevant?

Didn’t i ask you, who made this people “apostolic fathers”?
Are they from Rome?

All your sources are dubious.

SIRTee15:
Father isn't the same thing as pope. U ignoramus.

Ok I will remove the father title if that's what confusing u.
Now who are Ignatius, Clement and Polycarp if there was no Christians in the 1st century.

Last chance to answer the question. Either answer or I end the conversation.
I don't have time for your whataboutism.

Dummy; I didn’t say father means pope, these letters were said to be written by POPES, another lie by the early church fathers.
Everything you know about this people are from there lying counterparts.

SIRTee15:
Read about Polycarp here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarp.

Now answer my question. Was he a Christian in the 1st century?

Everything you know about polycarp is from ……

Which john the apostle were they disciples of?

SIRTee15:
I didn't mention any bishop title in my posts. Stop debating what no one asked u.

Were there Christians in the 1st century? If your answer is no, then who are father Clement, father Ignatius and Polycarp.
Were they also invented by whatever as alluded by your confused colleague hackermind9009.

Why are you calling them fathers if they are not pope?
How do you know they are fathers?

There was no “Christianity” in first century.
The New Testament was written in greek, and it is written as CHRESTIANS!

You are the confused one, how many times was “Christians” used in the New Testament?

SIRTee15:
104 AD. 4 yrs after 1st century. Virtually every member of the church in Philip were born in the 1st century!!!

When did paul the apostle die?

Who is this polycarp??

Blood sucking yahweh has a thing for virgins too

All these abrahamaic gods sha 😂

SIRTee15:
Scholars in theology accept it was written by father Clement.
This conclusion came from the content and structure of the letter itself.
Your opinion doesn't count. Especially since u just knew about the letter today.

Which scholars?
Post them na.

It is Interesting that Ignatius of Antioch, writing c. 107A.D. made no mention of any bishop in Rome despite his emphases on obedience to the head elder in every other letter.

SIRTee15:
I thought u said there was no Christianity in the 1st century.
So u now believe father polycarp wrote to Philippians Christians in Greek language.

There was no “Christianity” in 1st century.


What century was the polycarp letter written)

SIRTee15:
So do u now believe father Clement wrote a letter to Christians in the 1st century.

I wanted to show your folly, when was the second one written?
By who?

It’s a Pseudepigrapha!!!

SIRTee15:
Hahahaha.
Someone mentioned Christ in his letter, u looking for the suffix ian.
Which is more important Christ or Christian?

See u clutching at straws, did he speak English. No he actually spoke Zimbabwe.

I wil bury u in 1st century Christian history. All the nonsense junks u ve been feeding yourself
would clear from your eyes.

He spoke greek, what’s christ in greek?

Even in your New Testament,it was written as CHREST!