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Workch:
If you claim that your God can heal people.
I will provide 1000 amputees, if you cannot heal one then its a lie.

LordReed:
Do they say things are unknowable or just not known at this time?

SIRTee15:
I'm not debating Christianity with u or what the early followers of Jesus was called.

My question is simple.
Who were the apostolic fathers?

triplechoice:
It has nothing do with me . keep that for those who practice that .

Don't try to force something in me because you want to win an argument.

triplechoice:
You're right it's contradictory just like agnostic atheist.

But I'm not an agnostic theist

triplechoice:
Know the difference and stop the blind arguments. A strong agnostic is not the same as agnostic theist. The former neither believes or disbelieves in a god while the latter believes in a god which he claims cannot be known.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

triplechoice:
Know the difference and stop the blind arguments. A strong agnostic is not the same as agnostic theist. The former neither believes or disbelieves in a god while the latter believes in a god which he claims cannot be known.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

triplechoice:
You're laughing at your own ignorance

triplechoice:
You failed once again.

What you brought is on agnostic theist just like we have agnostic atheist.

Agnostic theist are weak agnostics.

triplechoice:
Agnostics have not afiirm an unknowable 'something'.

You are confusing deism for agnosticism. You dont know the difference

triplechoice:
Focus on the present moment. You mind is stuck in the past

What is god?

Tell ne. I don't know

triplechoice:
It's not about god, but what is agnosticism.
You don't know that

triplechoice:
The problem is you dont yet understand it.

How can one be agnostic about agnosticism?

Very funny question

LordReed:
Oh ok. In that case I am not sure that it would be a thing since the principles themselves are already steeped in skepticism already. What would be the point of being skeptical about skepticism?

triplechoice:
It's difficult for the theist and atheist to understand right off the bat the agnostic neutral stand .

Both struggle to reconcile agnosticism with the extreme position they have both taken on the matter.

And what is the issue under contention?
It's simply this ;

What is responsible for the world we currently live in, or how did it come about?

Creation by a God,gods, chance or what else we cannot even imagine?

Some theists are certain a God or gods are responsible .

Atheists ,who on the other hand, are opposed this, have not come up with any definite answer to this question , but only relying on the arguments put forward by theist to arrive at their own conclusion.

In the midst of this uncertainty and lack of accurate knowledge to answer the question correctly, the agnostic has decided to remain neutral and not say anything until there's enough evidence to be sure .That's it.

And who can tell ? It's possible the world was "created" by "something" we cannot even fathom at this point in time ,and if that's the case , then theists who are insisting on God or gods may be closer to the truth than the rest of us think.

If it's not ,then they are completely wrong.

But how can we know the truth and end all arguments?

It's only when we can begin to investigate it scientifically, but at the moment we are very far from doing so . No enough data to work with or current methods in the sciences may not be suited for such a task.

We are yet to understand much about the world we collectively share ,not to talk of "something" that may be beyond it .

EnvyandHate:
Yes it's Hermetic law of opposites. White and Black are absences of color and are extremes of one another with every other color in between.

EnvyandHate:
Reality is made up of light.

Workch:
If it happened, we will see the evidence that it did via fossil records showing mass extinction and geological eroisons to prove it but the evidence says that a global flood did not occur 4000 years ago. Even if it did, it still doesn't prove that 8 people ran a zoo containing millions of animals for a year.

Workch:
River bank Zoo, in Columbia SC is home to 3000 different animals and 249 employees.
Noah's ark housed, 2.2million insects, 22,000 birds, 22,000 reptiles and 12,000 mammals for 1 year. 8 People took care of all these animals for 1 year.

Have you ever tried to run a poultry that has 1000 birds?
Don't you have a working brain to think?

Queenttoast01:
Hebrews chapter 2
King James Version

1Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. 2For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; 3How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
5For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. 6But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? 7Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: 8Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. 9But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee. 13And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

preciousee17:
You can inherit your father's wealth, you can inherit your father's debts.

LordReed:
Good so a person being agnostic about their agnosticism would be declaring that they don't know thier own state of mind.

mbaise1000:
If you say God regrets anything, it means that disagree when He also said that

LordReed:
Agnosticism is describing a state of mind is it not?

Workch:
So because I'm not certain, I should make something up to fill the gap of knowledge?
Is that not what theists and atheists do?

LordReed:
Hmmm, that sounds to me like a path to a solipsistic blackhole.

Sand2022:
If you have a work license and uses your office for something illegal, will you be punished?

SIRTee15:
Go and read about apostolic fathers if u want to engage me

SIRTee15:
You this ignorant wannabe atheist.
Go and read about apostolic fathers if u want to engage me