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SIRTee15:
So when did they stop inventing Christian leaders.

Who told you they have stopped?

SIRTee15:
Then Wikipedia and artificial intelligence were wrong, isnt it?
Denying evidence as usual.

You don’t understand what you reading.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodians


Look up Wikipedia of yahweh and let’s see who is denying evidence.

SIRTee15:
Herod the great grew up as a Jew and his family followed the Jewish religion.

You can’t grow up as a “jew”, you are born into it.

And there’s nothing like “jewish religion”, learn illiterate.

SIRTee15:
It's like u confused again. Even your post showed the family were followers of Jewish religion.
Your post proved his father believed in Judaism.
So what exactly is your point.

Illiterate there is nothing like”jewish religion”.
Which post proved which father was a judaist?
Did you see any “judaism” reference in your New Testament? Or Old Testament .

SIRTee15:
What about irenaeus and Tertullian. Were they invented too.

What century were they?

Let’s talk on the Clemens, so you can see the chrestians i have been talking about.

About a hundred years later (c. 200) a mithraeum , a sanctuary of the cult of Mithras , was built in the courtyard of the insula. The main cult room (the speleum, "cave", [4] which is about 9.6m long and 6m wide, was discovered in 1867 but could not be investigated until 1914 due to lack of drainage. [5] & The exedra, the shallow apse at the far end of the low vaulted space, was trimmed with pumice to render it more cave-like.
Central to the main room of the sanctuary was found an altar, in the shape of a sarcophagus, and with the main cult relief of the tauroctony [ (the image of Mithras slaying a bull) on its front face.[6] ¿ The torchbearers Cautes and Cautopates [ appear on respectively the left and right faces of the same monument. A dedicatory inscription identifies the donor as one nator Pnaanic Arrine Claudian.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Clemente_al_Laterano

MaxInDHouse:
Upon all the books you've read why is it this difficult for you to know that people killing people are not followers of Christ?

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:43-48

When someone claims he's an atheist comes out saying things that contradicts the ideologies of atheism you will quote what atheism means from books but when someone does what totally contradicts Jesus' ideology as written in the Bible you can't figure out that such ones aren't Christians.

Na wah for you o!

Illiterate, there is no religion that killed more people than Christianity.
And the mattew book you are quoting was written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

Shame on you and your isrealite deities.

An ogun worshipper is a theist like a yahweh worshipper, you both are following same ideologies written in una “theism book” abi

All borrowed from alkhemy.

No religion has killed more people than Christianity, in their doctrine, death is the wages of sin.

The masses needs to be kept poor so they can “help” them.

Aliens don’t exist, and it’s a propaganda pushed by the government.
Everything we know about aliens, to even the name “alien”, their shape, their gray color etc is all orchestrated.

Now we have UFO religions .

Church LITERALLY means Circus what do you expect?For futher references

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiJGPRHkjgI

Doomsayers.
https://www.nairaland.com/7778074/doomsayers

Lol

SIRTee15:
Go and read about Herod family in Wikipedia. I'm not bringing anything here.

Who was talking to paul. Herod agrippa or Herod the great?

Herod Agrippa I, the king of Judea, was a supporter and follower of the Pharisees, one of the different sects of “judaism”.

SIRTee15:
So if the word was coined in 2nd century BC, why would u say there was nothing like Judaism during the period of Herod in 1st century AD.
U this otondo.

Judah is an hebrew word, i said there was no religion called “judaism” .
You this dullard.

SIRTee15:
That's not what I'm asking. U wrote this....

Stop lying about herod, there was nothing like “judaism” then, we had different sect like essence, sicarii you are empty!

So I'm asking was there a word called Judaism during the time of Herod agrrippa. .

Judaism is from Judah.

“I hope u know the Herod family were partly Jews who converted to Judaism.”

Show me where you got this

SIRTee15:
don't worry event the apostolic fathers were fake.
Even irenaeus, Tertullian and Eusebius were all fake.

I am not worrying before, i am not a yahweh worshipper.

SIRTee15:
When was the word judaism coined.

Hope you know judaism is from judah?
One of the tribes in Israel.

SIRTee15:
Denial as usual. U will be fine.

You will be fine.

The books are forgery and the authors were assigned by early church fathers, so which apostles were the “apostolic father” seeing
Think na. Everything is fraud!

SIRTee15:
So Jews had no religion during the time of Herod?

There was nothing like “religion” then, they worshipped gods.

SIRTee15:
I'm not talking about the gospel, I'm talking about apostolic fathers.

I am saying the gospel were written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS, so which apostle did the “apostolic father” see?

SIRTee15:
So Paul mentioned Torah, he spoke about Elohim and used the word masshiak. But Herod thought Paul was talking about some sun god.
I hope u know the Herod family were partly Jews who converted to Judaism. So Paul wasnt speaking unknown language to him.

Why was paul summoned?

Stop lying about herod, there was nothing like “judaism” then, we had different sect like essence, sicarii you are empty!

SIRTee15:
But they wrote about Jesus of Nazareth in the first century.

Why will they write about him?

All the gospels were written by unknown authors.

SIRTee15:
In his defence in front of festus and Herod. Stop pretending u have a brain block.
Answer the question and chop another embarrassment.

Which character did Herod think Paul was preaching about when he said ' You almost persuade me to be a Christian'

If you are not dumb, how is he then preaching?
Dullard!

Paul Tells of His Conversion Back to To'rah and away from Persecuting To'rah keepers:

Act 26:12 Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests,
Act 26:13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from shamayim above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.
Act 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue (not Greek), Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the goads.
Act 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Master? And he said, I am Yah'ushua whom thou persecutest.
Act 26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
Act 26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
Act 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto Elohim, that they may receive forgiveness of transgression of To'rah, and inheritance among them which are purified by emunah / moral conviction ( pw faith) that is in me.
Act 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the vision of shamayim (pw heaven):
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to Elohim, and do works meet for repentance.
Act 26:21 For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
Act 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of Elohim, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
Act 26:23 That Mashiak should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Act 26:24 And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.
Act 26:25 But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness.
Act 26:26 For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner.
Act 26:27 King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest.

We note the mention of the sun by Shaul during his vision of jesus and one would immediately perhaps see why Agrippa may think of Chrestos Helios / or Christ the true Sun, a very similar pagan image promoted later by Constantine with his supposed vision of a pagan cross in the sun. Yet if one were not listening correctly one would miss the revelation of Shaul's words

v13 "a light ABOVE the brightness of the sun"

Aemmyjah:
Why do you stop quoting wiki?
Jesus that you guys say is a Roman mythology is the same one you're dropping as to whether he was regarded as chrestus or Christos
Keep reading lies and looking for grapes

I know my Jesus as Christ and Messiah
And nothing you can quote can make you change it
Is Jesus tormenting you?
Why not educate us by telling us that Muhammed that lived after or Confucius that lived before Jesus was also some Asain or Arabic myth?

Deep jealousy and hate to find fabricated evidence that someone never existed
You should share this to your blind atheists and not me
Goodnight

Worthless yahweh slave and a dog to his elders in watchtower.

Goodnight Fallen Watcher.

SIRTee15:
Obviously u lifted this from somewhere without acknowledging the source and making it look like it was your idea.
because u had no clue who was Ignatius of Antioch. U became confused when I referred u back to this post.

Who is ignatius of Antioch, tell us how he met the apostles.

SIRTee15:
🥱🥱🥱

But all through the 1st century people were writing about him.
Not 2nd century but 1st century.

No one wrote about Iesus chrestus.

SIRTee15:
So Paul was preaching Jesus of Nazareth.
Ok which one did Herod think Paul was preaching?

Where was paul preaching?
In a church?

Aemmyjah:
He was quoting from Wikipedia all these while
Now, he went to find source from something else
I have all my facts on Wikipedia about the Christos
Liar, you think I'm a fool like you
Why did you not quote or caption from Wikipedia about Christos na?
Abi Christos no de Wiki?

Negative brained atheist
Peopl without meaning in life
And you've never given anyone on this forum any meaning about the life of an atheist than trash talking other religion
And you say you're intelligent
Sun god of Rome kor
Moon lord of Benin nii

You know what, I want to study as I'm in a project
Just keep mentioning me and posting until daybreak
Anyone who shows interest will read ok?
Why not share to LordReed and Jaephoenix?

Doomed yahweh worshipper

SIRTee15:
It doesn't really matter. It's a useless argument. That why most Christians on this forum ignores u when u bring up this argument.

Jesus didn't form a religion. He only told us to follow him and become like him.
Whatever name u want to call yourself is fine. It doesn't really matter.
U do t want to bear Christian but called Nazarene, all well and good.
Just follow Christ, that's the Koko.

Jesus never existed beyond the books of New Testament.

SIRTee15:
So which one was Paul talking to Herod about.
Iesus chrestus, Helios Christos or Jesus of Nazareth.

Which one was Paul preaching and which one was Herod thinking about.

Paul was a nazarene.

Nazarene is a gnostic group.

SIRTee15:
Early Christians called themselves The way
Jews called them Nazarene
They were called Christians by gentile who believed in Jesus Christ.

Jewish christians call themselves the way.
Only people from nazarene were called “nazarene”.

Other Jewish Christian sects include ebionites, zealots, they never called themselves “Christians”.