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lawani:
A ki gbon bi eni ti nsoni. You can never be wiser than someone who has you on surveillance.

The person on surveillance should try to attack and see if he is wise.
Stop lying.

Lawag3:
When I say God is limited from knowing your free will. Guy you now lie 😂 bring proof

Yes that what I have been saying he knows all things without any limitation what so ever.

What is the essence of this argument then?
If he knows your “freewill” before you were born, is it then “freewill”, or you just re-saying it.

Lawag3:
All.
God is called an all knowing God. No limitations what so ever.

Exactly, he knows all things, before you were born in 80/90s he knows your exact choices since the beginning of time.

He knows EVERYTHING.

Do you understand dummy!

Lawag3:
My God 🤯you're not this dumb na

God doesn't have any limitation what so ever.

My guy end this discussion you're unreasonable.

You are the dumb one that said your god is limited from knowing your “freewill”.
Have you now seen now?
Your god knows all things WITHOUT “any limitations what so ever”.

Illiterate!

Image123:
Shalaye means explanation right? i have hardly made explanations, lol. Jesus strictly warned me against that in Matthew 7v6. i have everything my dear, no need roaming around google and wikipedia for validation. As cool as cucumber.

What explanation can a son of a slave make? 😂
Iesus chrestus didn’t write any book, it is the unknown author that wrote it that is warning you, his slave.
You don’t have everything my dear, you only have 66 books Canonized by the Catholic. You need to think beyond those books. You are docile like a sheep.

Shout halle…… yah

See the father of your slave master.

Lawag3:
Knowing All things fully

Maybe you don't understand the word fully.

What does fully mean?
And what does All mean?

lawani:
Irete Ofun is talking about the grace or benevolence to bring your will into reality but of course it can be interpreted in a million ways

Petty liar.
Where are you copying your jargons from, no digraph mark on the letters.

Why are you trying so hard?

Lawag3:
ChatGPT
If a God knows the future, past, and present without knowing possibilities, it would still be considered omniscient in the sense that it possesses complete knowledge of everything that actually exists or has existed. However, this concept of omniscience is somewhat limited because it does not encompass knowledge of all potential possibilities or alternate outcomes.

Classically, the idea of omniscience often includes knowledge of all possibilities, potential outcomes, and all that could be, not just what actually is. This type of omniscience would entail knowing not only what has happened, is happening, and will happen but also what could have happened, might be happening in alternate realities, or may happen in the future based on different choices and actions.

So, the extent of omniscience depends on whether it includes knowledge of possibilities. Some theological perspectives consider omniscience to include knowledge of all possibilities, while others may define it more narrowly as knowledge of all actualities. Either way, the concept of omniscience is a complex and philosophical one, and different religious and philosophical traditions may have varying interpretations.

Can’t you read?

However, this concept of omniscience is somewhat limited because it does not encompass knowledge of all potential possibilities or alternate outcomes.

Read na

Classically, the idea of omniscience often includes knowledge of all possibilities, potential outcomes, and all that could be, not just what actually is. This type of omniscience would entail knowing not only what has happened, is happening, and will happen but also what could have happened, might be happening in alternate realities, or may happen in the future based on different choices and actions.

Lawag3:
You can ask the question I ask you have access to chatgpt ask and post the reply 😊

Chatgpt is agreeing with my point.
Just copy the part that agreed with you 😂😂

Lawag3:
You are the one in denial you are limiting My God. This is what your chatgpt has to say.

Omniscience without Possibilities

User
If a God knows future past and present without knowing possibilities is he still omniscient

ChatGPT
If a God knows the future, past, and present without knowing possibilities, it would still be considered omniscient in the sense that it possesses complete knowledge of everything that actually exists or has existed. However, this concept of omniscience is somewhat limited because it does not encompass knowledge of all potential possibilities or alternate outcomes.

Classically, the idea of omniscience often includes knowledge of all possibilities, potential outcomes, and all that could be, not just what actually is. This type of omniscience would entail knowing not only what has happened, is happening, and will happen but also what could have happened, might be happening in alternate realities, or may happen in the future based on different choices and actions.

So, the extent of omniscience depends on whether it includes knowledge of possibilities. Some theological perspectives consider omniscience to include knowledge of all possibilities, while others may define it more narrowly as knowledge of all actualities. Either way, the concept of omniscience is a complex and philosophical one, and different religious and philosophical traditions may have varying interpretations.

Stop this na you are becoming annoying.

Can you copy out the point that agreed with you 😂

Image123:
i'm free from looking for bullshit dear, i have everything i need.

Why you dey shalaye dear?

You are trying too hard, christians like anyone die and suffer the same rate.


Shout hallelu…..yah

lawani:
Irete Ofun

Atefuntefun
A difa fun okanlenirinwo irunmale
Won lo sode Apeere
Tefun tefun ehin ooni
Awo ori
Lo difa fun ori
Won ni ki won rubo
Ori nikan ni mbe lehin ti nsebo
Ebo ori WA da ladaju
Ori nikan lo ko won de apeere
Ah! Ori ma gbona ju orisa o
Ori gbona ju orisa
Ko si orisa to to ni gbe lehin ori Eni
Ori gbona ju orisa
Ela boru Ela boye Ela bo sise

Your head is your creator. It is your leader. It is your forger. Akunlegba, Akunleyan personal interests etc make up your ayanmo and your ayanmo can never be altered. It is set in stone. It is what you are.

You are just regurgitating.

How can I create myself?
Who is the creator?
Who is the creation?
If i was already created why do i need to create myself again?


Send me a link to where you copied this, or the book you copied this from.
Stop lying, na you dey form your own panegyric 😂

Image123:
Hallelujah.

Say it again

The jewish bondage is deep.
The criminals that were killed along your fellow savior in the NT, do you think it is random, better look up the zealots or better still the sicarii.

Lawag3:
Oga why now it's like you are blind you excluded as well having knowledge of every fact knowledge details and possibility and you are telling me to read it again 🤯 bro you are drowning in denial 😂

You are slaving in ignorance and illiteracy, this is not even denial.

They say all knowing, he knows it all.

lawani:
YOU CREATED YOURSELF

How can I create myself?
Who is the creator?
Who is the creation?
If i was already created why do i need to create myself again?

Lawag3:
Oga why now it's like you are blind you excluded as well having knowledge of every fact knowledge details and possibility and you are telling me to read it again 🤯 bro you are drowning in denial 😂

Are you blind?
Every fact, details and Every possibility before you were born.
What does past, present and future mean?
😂😂

lawani:
Your choice can never surprise someone who knows your character but your character was chosen by you and not by God. Your definition of omniscience is right and God is omniscient.

You didn’t create yourself, your characters were created with you.
Also, knowing someone character doesn’t make one omniscience 😂
It’s not my definition, it’s the definition of “omniscience”.
According to you your god doesn’t know somethings especially your freewill and he is not Omniscience, you are right.

lawani:
he may not know. He is also omnipotent

He is not omniscience then, he is nigh omniscience.
And since he does not know everything, he can’t be the most powerful unless you mean by sheer strength.

An omniscience god knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.

lawani:
Let me use an analogy. Behavior analysts are omniscient so far what you will do next is concerned. They are amoranbinioyo. What you will do next is determined by your character which can NEVER change and that character was chosen by you. Your ayanmo can not be altered. The CIA are behavior analysts which makes them omniscient so far what who is under their surveillance will do next is concerned. Therefore God is omniscient like the CIA and it does not affect freewill at all. That is the issue

Behavior analyst are not Omniscience, they don’t know what billions of people are doing PRESENTLY.

You are lost!

Having knowledge in a field doesn’t make you ALL knowing.

Lawag3:
I Know your problem you can't come to the reality that an omniscient being can grant free will and still be omniscient you also forget this God is all powerful. I asked chatgpt that question hear is it's answer.

Did you read the chatgpt you sent?
“ Omniscience means having complete and perfect knowledge of all things, including past, present, and future.If God is omniscient, it would mean that God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.”

Lawag3:
he knows what will happen if you take a certain path today he knows what will happen if you don't take it.

But he does not know exactly the path i will take, right?
How then does he know the end?
According to you, He only knows possible circumstances that will happen in the end, but he doesn’t know what the end will be.

That’s not Omniscience and there is nothing wrong in that, you can be omnipotent and not be omniscience.

Your chatgpt did you read it before posting?😂😂

Image123:
Come back to reality friend, stop living in this pathetic bubble.

Says a jewish slave that “believes” a snake can talk and a virgin can give birth, my dear, is that the reality your father taught you?

You have been condemned because of actions of adam and eve that you read in a jewish book, and you need a jewish man to come save you, is that the reality you want for your children too?

I’m sure the yahweh worshipper doesn’t even know the “original sin” is a concept of someone, even the jews reject it!

Lawag3:
And he knows this person can escape hell if he lives right no I'm not limiting God.

An omniscience god doesn’t work with “if”, it’s planned already to the end before you were born. Look up the definition of “omniscience”.
Keep living in denial.

Image123:
It's serious dear, send mummy's number.

Your father mental illness is not “serious” to you, or is it a norm in your generation dear?

Image123:
Send me mummy's nuber, it's urgent.

After you take your father to the psychiatric, you should also get tested too.

Son of a Slave.

Image123:
Okay, next?

Shut up, A slave has no right!

Image123:
Spare the world this boring rhetorics of slavery.

There’s nothing wrong in been a slave, your fellow abrahamaic gods worshipper are proud of it.

You and your parents have been enslaved by Yahweh, the israelite god.

Brownshoe:
this is not for people like you, find somewhere to react your intoxication.

I can comment anywhere on Nairaland.

Image123:
Your imaginations are running wild, read carefully. Or go for a 30mins walk. You must be made well.

Your indoctrinated brain can’t handle it. You have been made a docile sheep fed with “beliefs”.

Slave of Yahweh waiting for a jewish savior that was born in 1AD to a Virgin Mary. 😂😂😂
Think na jewish slave, it’s not illegal yet.

Image123:
i am a child of God, say it 70 X 7 times and ye may be well at last.

You are a slave of yahweh. say it 70 X 7 times and ye may be well at last.
What do you think “servant” means in greek?

When the muslims call themselves, “slaves of allah” they know what they are saying, dumb yahweh worshipper.

You think i am calling you jewish slave as an insult?
That’s what you are

Image123:
i'm not a murderer, i'm a pikin of God.

You need to see a psychologist, religion has made you sick.
You no dey read the genocide for your bible?
YHWH Saboat— lord of hosts, entering into battle

And the funny thing is elohim is same as allah, you are abusing allah for killing people in the quran, but you are defending Elohim killings in the Bible, they come from the same source DUMMY!!!

Image123:
You make me feel wicked, awwwn. i must inform you, i'm dead. Don't increase that blood pressure over a dead man.

😂😂
See this worthless thing.
You no sabi banter atall.
Son of a Slave.