“ My uncle attended only secondary school so whenever he gets the sense of something that's difficult to grasp he will say "I see" Of course he isn't seeing anything that could be pointed to but it simply means he has grasped what others may fail to grasp.”
triplechoice: A theist is someone who believes in a what he calls God. An atheist has taken the opposite position to that of a theist, he doesn't believe in that same God the theist believes in .
That’s why i said most agnostics are uneducated about “god”.
Theists refers to those that worship greek gods. Atheists those that don’t worship greek gods. Look up the origin of the word, THEOS
triplechoice: A theist is someone who believes in a what he calls God. An atheist has taken the opposite position to that of a theist, he doesn't believe in that same God.
Jargons, a yahweh worshipper is a theist and he believes in his own God, an allah worshipper is a theist and he also believes in his own God but they don’t believe in the same “God”. God is a title not a person, the Christian god is yahweh and muslim god is allah(hubal)
triplechoice: Agnostics only mentioned God hypothetically because they have not being able to confirm anything yet on the matter but relying on you and the theist for explanation. They simply have no clue or not sure what a God refers to .
What is the definition of this “god” that you are purposely writing the “g” in capital letter? Don’t you need to know what “god” means to know whether it’s a matter you can “confirm”?
Most agnostics are uneducated, they don’t even know what theists or atheists mean.
What does “theos” mean?
How can you be neutral to jargons if not that you have sympathy for it.
triplechoice: He's looking up to you and the theist to explain it for him since both if you are the ones claiming knowledge on the matter of gods or creators
shouldn’t the agnostic asked what “god” means before jumping to the conclusion that he doesn’t know if a god exist or not?
He is neutral on the matter he has zero knowledge on?
Atheist means “without gods”. Atheists are like people that don’t believe in santa, you call them “Asanta”. Religions are Ideologies that’s why they are called Doctrines, you need to BELIEVE IT.
but agnostics are saying they don’t know if “god” exist or not What does “god” mean then we know if it has ability to exist or not?
Theos means gods in Greek and was popularized by the ancient Greek poet, Hesiod. He is considered a major source on Greek mythology due to his epic, Theogony, which describes the origins and genealogies of the Greek gods.
Greek gods are collectively called theos, and the term is a Title, not a Personal name. Each theos had a person name i.e Zeus, Hera, Demeter, Hades, etc.
The transformation of theos into "god" which gave rise to English words like “theism” and “a-theism” can be traced back to the Christian New Testament, which was written in Greek, Theos was used for Yahweh in the book. Also, The capitalization of "god" to "God" is the work of English orthography, which was dominated by early English-speaking Christians to refer to the God of the Israelites, Yahweh. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_(word)#:~:text=The%20English%20word%20god%20comes,got%20(Old%20High%20German).
During ancient Greece, Theism served as the foundational belief system that upheld the legitimacy of the state. It was imperative to worship the gods, particularly those recognized by the state religion.
According to Greek beliefs, gods held dominion over all aspects of human life, encompassing health and disease. Any individual who refused to believe in state-sanctioned deities was charged with a-theism, considered a capital offense, and subsequently faced execution due to their rejection of these gods.
A-theist means "without gods," where the "a" in atheist is "without" and "theist" refers to gods (theos). Thus, an atheist is someone without Theos (Greek gods).
Although, The concept of theos in Greek mythology can be found in other cultures, but like Zeus and other greek theos they are still myths.
Scientists don't attempt to prove or disprove the feats of Zeus in a book called Theogony, so why do some people called “agnostics” wants scientists to prove or disprove the feats of yahweh in a book called Tanakh?
Agnostics are Theist sympathizers, Mostly Monotheist Sympathizers. If you understand what “god/theos” means then you will know it doesn’t have the ABILITY to exist beyond the pages of the book they were written on.
triplechoice: The agnostic position when summarised is simply this;
I'm not going to take a definite position on the matter until I have all the facts concerning it .
Theism and Atheism are greek words and it refers to “theos”, look up what “theos” are and ask yourself if they have the ability to exist or not. An agnostic does not have knowledge of what he is, he is sympathetic to the monotheist god.
triplechoice: While an agnostic is someone who wants to be sure of what it really is before concluding, the theist and atheist, are opposed to each other from a position of false certainty caused by limited knowledge.
Does the agnostic also want to be sure that “jeieu” exist? Why is the agnostic so concerned about the word “god”?
triplechoice: Those who accuse agnostics of being sympathetic to theist don't know the difference between deism and agnosticism, and have also spoken from a position of bias .
Let the agnostic define what is “god”? What makes a thing to be a “god”? Some people god is a stone, a stone does exist.
And when you say this god created the universe, define universe? Universe means existence So Do you mean this “god” created existence?
BetterChurch: God's love flows equally to all people. One sure way of experiencing God's love is to sing a sacred name of God as often as we can. HU is the most sacred name for God
A god that created everything should not have a name or a sacred HU.
HU/AUM/AMEN mean same thing, YES, gobbling up sanskirt.
Queenttoast01: Philemon chapter 1 King James Version
1Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer, 2And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house: 3Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 4I thank my God, making mention of thee always in my prayers, 5Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all saints; 6That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus. 7For we have great joy and consolation in thy love, because the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother. 8Wherefore, though I might be much bold in Christ to enjoin thee that which is convenient, 9Yet for love's sake I rather beseech thee, being such an one as Paul the aged, and now also a prisoner of Jesus Christ. 10I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds: 11Which in time past was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me: 12Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels: 13Whom I would have retained with me, that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel: 14But without thy mind would I do nothing; that thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity, but willingly. 15For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever; 16Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh, and in the Lord? 17If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself. 18If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account; 19I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides. 20Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord. 21Having confidence in thy obedience I wrote unto thee, knowing that thou wilt also do more than I say. 22But withal prepare me also a lodging: for I trust that through your prayers I shall be given unto you. 23There salute thee Epaphras, my fellowprisoner in Christ Jesus; 24Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers. 25The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.
Queenttoast01: Philemon chapter 1 King James Version
1Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer, 2And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house: 3Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 4I thank my God, making mention of thee always in my prayers, 5Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all saints; 6That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus. 7For we have great joy and consolation in thy love, because the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother. 8Wherefore, though I might be much bold in Christ to enjoin thee that which is convenient, 9Yet for love's sake I rather beseech thee, being such an one as Paul the aged, and now also a prisoner of Jesus Christ. 10I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds: 11Which in time past was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me: 12Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels: 13Whom I would have retained with me, that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel: 14But without thy mind would I do nothing; that thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity, but willingly. 15For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever; 16Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh, and in the Lord? 17If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself. 18If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account; 19I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides. 20Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord. 21Having confidence in thy obedience I wrote unto thee, knowing that thou wilt also do more than I say. 22But withal prepare me also a lodging: for I trust that through your prayers I shall be given unto you. 23There salute thee Epaphras, my fellowprisoner in Christ Jesus; 24Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers. 25The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.