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HarlequinLekex:
Yes samething

babajero:
I read it, the Christians don't and can't go to war just for the fun of it. Just like Islam is doing right from its inception till date.

I will still ask you again, when and where have you heard Christians were killing or maiming people because they didn't join Christianity or believe in Jesus Christ?

HarlequinLekex:
Pray to God for help

Chijeep:
Do you read your Bible at all?
I used SINNER just to explain better what I mean.
Seems you're a kid

Chijeep:
Can you tell me that "a boy was killed by cutlass Ada?
Do you have to code switch just to oppose others?
So I should just type in English and change the word Hell

Chijeep:
Samaritans are termed unbelievers by the jews and which mean sinners. That's not what the post is all about

guobe:
Everyone that is able to sleep and wake up properly should thank God. It is a gift we should cherish .Alot of people can't sleep.You see grown up men and women crying that they can't sleep.we should thank God for this gift.Thank you Jesus.

Chijeep:
Most People especially Africans have fallen short of these.
People often live a life of "I can't put mouth in what doesn't concern me"
And these act have sent many to their early grave as most people battles with depression and hunger while rich people around them fail to help.

I WISH TO KNOW IF IT'S LIKELY FOR THOSE WHO'RE FOND OF THIS ACT MAKE HEAVEN EVEN IF THEY PERFORM ALL OTHER OBLIGATIONS PERFECTLY.

THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS

babajero:
Crusades, military expeditions, beginning in the late 11th century, that were organized by western European Christians in response to centuries of Muslim wars of expansion. Their objectives were to check the spread of Islam, to retake control of the Holy Land in the eastern Mediterranean, to conquer pagan areas, and to recapture formerly Christian territories; they were seen by many of their participants as a means of redemption and expiation for sins. Between 1095, when the First Crusade was launched, and 1291, when the Latin Christians were finally expelled from their kingdom in Syria, there were numerous expeditions to the Holy Land, to Spain, and even to the Baltic; the Crusades continued for several centuries after 1291. Crusading declined rapidly during the 16th century with the advent of the Protestant Reformation and the decline of papal authority.

Approximately two-thirds of the ancient Christian world had been conquered by Muslims by the end of the 11th century, including the important regions of Palestine, Syria, Egypt, and Anatolia. The Crusades, attempting to check this advance, initially enjoyed success, founding a Christian state in Palestine and Syria, but the continued growth of Islamic states ultimately reversed those gains. By the 14th century the Ottoman Turks had established themselves in the Balkans and would penetrate deeper into Europe despite repeated efforts to repulse them.

babajero:
That is why Christianity is unique, it made everything easy and plain, and that is why Christians don't kill or coarse anyone to become a Christian, and didn't placed no consequences if you said you don't want to be a Christian anymore, because the words of Christ is Love and forgiveness and you can't convince a man who owns and read the Bible otherwise.

Please go and read what the crusaders stood for and what brought about them, stop swallowing everything your Imam told you, still go out there and study because you are not a zombie.
And the Crusaders didn't kill half of what Muslims and Islam killed before they were formed to defend and fight back.

babajero:
You, are your parents English, why are you asking and responding in English, why not ask and respond to me in your native language, or did your parents originate from England?.

Just the same way The Holy Bible was interpreted in different languages including English, to make it easy to understand and communicate. That is why you hardly here any violence associated to Christianity because it is easy to read and understand the words of Christ.

Shalom..

PastorAIO:
President of where?

PastorAIO:
The previous president was Goodluck Jonathan. The current one is Buhari.

The question was for those that claim olorun is only a title. who was the previous holder of the title?

PastorAIO:
If these titles do not refer to specific beings but to a title then many beings can succeed each other to the title. My question is, Who was the previous Olorun before the current Olorun? How long does the tenure as Olorun hold for?

MaxInDHouse:
NO! Note that through divination those worshiping these demons have told you where they came from:

"Látìkọ̀lé Ọ̀run wá síkọ̀lé ayé"

Just as the Bible says:

Now when men started to grow in number on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose. Genesis 6:1-2

If you don't read this book you can never know what exactly these gods are doing on earth yet people WORSHIP them as in make sacrifices to them. Please tell me for what purpose?

MaxInDHouse:
That's how demons deceive their worshipers!

Each takes over a territory station there and start demanding worship from the inhabitants in his domain. The truth is that all of them were former dwellers in heaven (Ọlọ́run) who has no business with the inhabitants of the earth apart from the Grand Creator who has the right to set standards for mankind.

Olú-Ọ̀run simply means the one having authority in heaven and we know that Alayé means one has authority on earth, of course Alayé are countless even though they know their ranking! Mark 1:24

babajero:
This your question has been answered long before now in Joshua 24: 14-15

Joshua 24:14‭-‬15 KJV
14. Now therefore fear the LORD , and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD .
15. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD , choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD .


Shalom and Blessed Sunday to you.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọlọ́run (someone having authority in heaven)

Olókun (Olú-Òkun) King of Ocean, Ọlọ́sà (Olú-Ọ̀sà) King of sea are fixed names for those two demons attacking people either in the Ocean or sea.

MaxInDHouse:
They're all powerful spirit beings in heaven before they left for the earth to have sexual relations with female humans {Genesis 6:1-5} so they're all ọlọ́runs (those having authority in heaven) it's the territories they later occupy that determines what name they're called by their worshipers. But in reality they were all formerly powerful spirit beings having authority in heaven (Ọlọ́runs)

MaxInDHouse:
Olókun or Ọlọ́sà are demonic spirits as in fallen angels, they're part of the angels that God disallowed to mix with His loyal spirit sons so they returned to the earth and became gods in different places, some in trees, some in rocks and others in rivers. These demons attack people later demands for settlement which results in worship, they're not the true God!

MaxInDHouse:
They were named by their ignorant worshipers but in reality Ọlọ́run is a title not a name!

As for the God of Abraham we need to examine the traits of Èṣù and compare to the God of Abraham before we can be sure if Èṣù is the God Abraham worshiped or not!

MaxInDHouse:
All other deities whatever name are Ọlọ́runs there's the Almighty who is over all of them! Psalms 82:1
Olúwa means Owner.
Èṣù is not a title but name of a god and Àjàyí Crowder appropriately used this name for the spirit who turns out to be Satan the devil!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọlọ́run and Olúwa both are titles not personal names of deities!
Ọlọ́run means someone who has authority in heaven just as Alayé means someone who has authority on earth. We all know that Alayé has grades. For instance i live in Lagos and in each town there are these people known as Alayé (traditional rulers) but if Sanwoolu is coming the authority given to these traditional rulers will subside until he leaves, when Buhari is coming Sanwoolu's authority will subside and when Joe Biden is coming Buhari's authority will subside, why because Alayé pass Alayé.
The same applies to Ọlọ́run! 1Corinthians 8:5-6

When people die the Bible said they've become useless {Ecclesiastes 9:4-6} but the Almighty God has the power to bring bak His own friends {Job 14:13-15} Gehenna is the condition of those whose are not in the list of those to be remembered by the Almighty! Revelations 20:15
So while Sheoul/Hades/Hell simply means the general condition of all dead people Gehenna means a condition of no return. That's why Àjàyí Crowder used Ọ̀run Àpáàdì to describe it.
Ọ̀run means where the dead goes while Àpáàdì is the clay pot that's broken.
Why did Àjàyí Crowder used this description?
Clay is used in making vessels and after the maker has gotten the preferred shape he will heat it with fire which makes it stronger but once this vessel breaks it can't be melted again for any other use. So Àjàyí Crowder used this fitting description to translate Gehenna!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọlọ́run and Olúwa both are titles not personal names of deities!
Ọlọ́run means someone who has authority in heaven just as Alayé means someone who has authority on earth. We all know that Alayé has grades. For instance i live in Lagos and in each town there are these people known as Alayé (traditional rulers) but if Sanwoolu is coming the authority given to these traditional rulers will subside until he leaves, when Buhari is coming Sanwoolu's authority will subside and when Joe Biden is coming Buhari's authority will subside, why because Alayé pass Alayé.
The same applies to Ọlọ́run! 1Corinthians 8:5-6

MaxInDHouse:
You're scared of open-minded discussion with me shey?
I have told you the first time you approached me "we are the most intelligent students on this planet so there's no school of thought that can stand against us" Isaiah 54:17

Meanwhile Àjàyí Crowder got it right, Èṣù is Satan and his rendering of Gehenna as Ọ̀run Àpáàdì is the best, if you're ready for a open-minded discussion on those topics i'm always available here.
Cheers!

MaxInDHouse:
First of all i want you to know that from the standpoint of atheists you and i are theists, secondly we need to pick a topic of discussion whether Èṣù (Satan) or Paradise depending on which interests you mostly.


Whatever anyone believes as long as you and i have not come to an agreement remains what you or i think we know until we come to an agreement based on conviction.
Everything you've typed up there never occur to you naturally rather you were taught by some older persons (probably baldheaded older men) and certainly that's exactly what you will inculcate in the minds of your children. So both of us are the same in anyway you try to twist it that's why we need to calmly address each topic like intellectuals and stop mocking each other because on this you're not different from me!

MaxInDHouse:
Congratulations!
Now you're making sense by PREACHING what you think you know!
So are you open to reasoning or you're just in for the cartoons as usual?
Because your Ọlọ́run should be able to answer certain questions in other for you to convince others that it's worth considering!

MaxInDHouse:
What evidence do you have to back up this assertion or you just feel since that's what the worshipers of your Ọlọ́run believes so it's authentic and indisputable?